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New WM7 Gaming Concept

I was wondering if the technology is available to connect an xbox controller to a WM7 phone. If this could be accomplished, Microsoft wouldn't have to stick to the terrible arcade game intergration, but could expand it to include Actual Xbox 360 games, downloaded as application games for retail prices (or less), or the games might be transferrable from your xbox (with the disk in it) to your phone as a one time download. This would truly make the WM7 phone the ultimate entertainment device, and it would distinguish it from any other phone company out there.
Any thoughts on how to make this happen, or if it's even possible?

In theory it's possible but you'd have to have a computer hooked up to the controller running a web service that the game communicates with. It would be much too slow to be useable.

So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?

blaiz123 said:
So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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no. Too much lag. Even on WiFi it would be too laggy for most games.
If Microsoft did a massive change in their policies or somehow sanctioned this, you would have to have some sort of hardware dongle connected to the phone that would allow the phone to communicate to the controller. Then you wouldn't have the lag. But that's not gonna happen.

Yea, the tech is there, but is it worth it? The addition steps and input latency would just ruin it. A Much easier concept would be using the wii mote or PS3 controller since they both have Bluetooth connectivity. There have already been hacks with android, winmo 6.5, and the Iphone where people have used the Wiimote/PS3 controller for gaming. I see no reason for it unless your running a console emulator.

... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7

Iridox said:
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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Still have the ol host-peripheral problem. Both devices are expecting to be a peripheral. The Xbox controller also expects to get power from the host. Possible? Most likely (depends on the hardware in the phone). Practical? Absolutely not.

As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.

IM0001 said:
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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good news is the games are all written in XNA so a port would be simple, its just up to the developers to do it & figure out touch controls

I can just imagine, the emulator ports you smart guys at xda will be able to come up with. I will have a mobile beast in my hands.

Have you guys searched Youtube for some of the awesome games already in production for WP7? Their are a lot of new guys making simple XNA games that look promising then their are games like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7UHk1k4xY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLp6kLe1IA&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksEnvA_hQA&feature=fvwas well as Apps like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkWbUxFqNk&feature=related coming out. Seriously sweet stuff.

no link to Harvest?
Fixed for readability.
PaperBall
Next War
Twin Blade
Grand Piano

Harvest looks alright but the rest looks like crap...

A Fundamental Reason to choose Android 3.0 over WP7

I actually kind of agree with the two posters, it really is an unrealistic idea, but it will eventually come true... I guess it's a bit early to speculate with only one vague article but a whole army of critics

XNA is good for MUCH more than "crappy Xbox live demos". XNA is used for lots of games on the XBL Arcade already. What makes you think that Sony is going to be able to do better on Android than Microsoft is on WP7? Xbox has easily the best dev tools around and that is brought over onto WP7. The only chance that Android's game dev capabilities could even come close to WP7 is if Sony creates a set of libraries, standards, and dev tools specifically for games. I highly doubt that will happen. Also, will Google even let them? It's been said that Google will be tightening the specs for Android 3 so it remains to be seen just how much. Every game will work on every WP7 phone. That will be a large base of potential customers. Any PSP-phone game would only work with that single device. Why would developers spend time and money targeting such a limited install base? Sony would be just another OEM for Android whereas Microsoft runs the show with WP7. And finally, there's been no announcements or even real leaks about a PSP phone. Who knows if it will ever happen? Also, this would be a reason to choose a PSP phone over WP7 phone but wouldn't apply to the rest of Android.

blaiz123 said:
while the guy next to you is playing Modern Warfare 2 on his SE Playstation phone in full 1080P HD and a true 3D experience[/url]
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Its very sad if you think that will happen, a phone cant handle that most ps3 & 360 games dont even run in 1080p natively & if a phone could the batter would last like 45 min & your phone would be very very hot not to mention the phone would need a super chip to be able to do that & that would raise the cost of the phone up greatly...anyway dont know why you bring up silverlight, all the major 3D & graphically intense games will be written in xna
not sure why i even responded to this, but good luck with your PlayStation phone that you think will have better graphics or games then a psp

Psp is a playstation portable, exactly. There is a playstation emulator for Android already out. So they will have the exact same games.
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vetvito said:
Psp is a playstation portable, exactly. There is a playstation emulator for Android already out. So they will have the exact same games.
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Emulation is generally more buggy than games coded for that platform.
Sony is going to make the same mistake here that they did on the console market. A big factor of why 360 pulled ahead of PS3 was that it was easier for developers to code for the xbox360 than it was to code for the PS3. Also developers could make a game in XNA and quickly port it to windows.
Making a game for wp7 now allows you to port that to 360 and PC quite easily. What does making a game for Android & iphone get you? It just gets you on one platform really. This is something Sony can't do and why wp7 really is a true gaming platform. While android and the iphone are very capable of running games they just don't have the tools that MS does.
As long as wp7 sells decently, I can't see bigger studios not getting behind wp7 in a big way. They should be able to crank out quality games wayyyy faster than the competition, since there are tons of professional game developers very accustomed to XNA.

First off 360 pulled ahead because of the gaming titles, i.e. Halo and the network xbox live.
Second, who on earth wants to play the same game on three different platforms? There is no market for this. Fun and exciting on a phone won't yield the same results on a PC or gaming system.
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blaiz123 said:
I actually kind of agree with the two posters, it really is an unrealistic idea, but it will eventually come true... I guess it's a bit early to speculate with only one vague article but a whole army of critics
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No Biggie....there are plenty of reasons to pick android over wp7, but i dont think gaming will ever be 1 of those reasons

No Biggie....there are plenty of reasons to pick android over wp7, but i dont think gaming will ever be 1 of those reasons
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That's true.

vetvito said:
First off 360 pulled ahead because of the gaming titles, i.e. Halo and the network xbox live.
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Xbox live and Halo 1&2 were both on the regular xbox. However, it didn't really phase ps2 though, not to mention that PS had many exclusive titles as well. So what changed that the ps3, the industry leader, faulted to the upstart? The ease of development was in MS's corner. Cell architecture took a bigger learning curve. XNA was easy, and allowed for quick cross platform implementation.
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Second, who on earth wants to play the same game on three different platforms? There is no market for this. Fun and exciting on a phone won't yield the same results on a PC or gaming system.
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Plants vs. Zombies (Casual Gaming in General), Adventure games like Monkey Island, Lots of current games on Xbox live arcade would suit touch experiences just fine. RPGs like Harvest, Carmack is porting a touch version of Rage to the iPhone, that's a multiplatform game. I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Live sucked on the first xbox. Games did too. Although Halo did do well. PS2 dominated.
PS3 hurt itself price wise, it was just too expensive, but it stayed sold out. Sony couldn't keep up with the demand.
360 had a better price. Although MS lost money with each system sold.
Wii kicked both of their asses though!
Also I have never heard of any of those games, none.
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vetvito said:
Although MS lost money with each system sold.
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And so did Sony.
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Wii kicked both of their asses though!
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Because it's a more casual thing than PS3 and XBox. It also is a fine second console. Few people would have both PS3 and XBox (some do), but Wii as a complement to a hardcore console is just fine.
Back to the PSP phone, I am skeptical about its future. It's done by Sony Ericsson who will want to have it as a differentiator against other Android phones just as against other OSes. They want to build it with specific hardware buttons, and the games developed for it will most probably not be as much fun or won't work at all on other phones. Even if they are developed with other phones in mind, it's not at all necessary that other phones will have similar quality hardware/high performance drivers to benefit from these games. And finally, Sony will most probably want to set a high price point for these games as they won't want to cannibalize their own product (even if such a decision would benefit them overall).

I can agree with your whole comment.
Especially the differentiate part.
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I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.

lordcanti86 said:
I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.
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That's what I'm hoping. The idea of an Android handset that runs "PSP" games really doesn't appeal to me. On the other hand, when the PSP Go came out I thought to myself "this would be a great device if it had a touch screen, a decent browser and maybe some apps". If Sony release a new PSP that runs Android with an XMB skin it'd be pretty awesome!

lordcanti86 said:
I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.
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It will be PSP Phone on Android.

vetvito said:
Live sucked on the first xbox. Games did too. Although Halo did do well. PS2 dominated.
PS3 hurt itself price wise, it was just too expensive, but it stayed sold out. Sony couldn't keep up with the demand.
360 had a better price. Although MS lost money with each system sold.
Wii kicked both of their asses though!
Also I have never heard of any of those games, none.
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You sir must have been living under a rock in the gaming world right now. At least on the PC side of things.
I do agree with him that their are many games that would be awesome to have multi platform capabilities. Plants Vs Zombies is my current crack and love playing it on my PC and Netbook as well as a 2G iPhone my buddy let me have since he got a 4. (no I do not use the iPhone for anything asside from PvZ actually lol). Monkey Island was a classic adventure game that is actually really good on WM6.5 with Scum emulator, and other Xbox Arcade titles like the little known "Greed Corp" would be epic on the phone since it is 3d, simple, quick (games last 15minutes MAX) and turn based so multiplayer would work.

Tegra 3-based gaming console running Android

Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!

Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:

Oh man!
That thing is gonna be awesome!!
maybe one should throw 225$ at them!

Ouya gaming console raises $2 million on Kickstarter, doesn't know what to do with it
When we first detailed the Ouya $99 Android-based game console yesterday, we had a feeling it would become a hot property over at Kickstarter. But still, there's no way we anticipated this: the project has just raised $2 million in its first day, having sped past its initial $950,000 goal within a record-breaking 12 hours. Now, in an email to backers, the project has asked for feedback on its "stretch goals" -- in other words, what it should do if it makes even more cash and is able to set its sights on loftier ambitions. If you're a backer then check your email, if you're a potential backer then check the source link, and if you're a traditional VC then weep.
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just watched the video
very impressive effort
so now we have Nvidia's THD initiative, Nexus 7, PS Mobile and Ouya
who needs overclocked Mali
consider this, how many devices will be based on mali? vs how many containing T3? you do the math
If you ask me Nvidia low cost to the masses tegra policy seems to be working like magic
It reminds me of this article Tegra 3's Graphics: Untapped Potential?

Saw this yesterday from a gaming site, it looks impressive. Might pick one up just for an emulator fact.
If I'm correct they said this device came easy to root and install anything you wanted. I'm excited to see this run.
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Raider0001 said:
Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:
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Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.

I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.

Rekoil said:
Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.
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considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there

death__machine said:
I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.
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there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launches, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outdated platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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they linked to this video from their spec list
i imagine Gameloft is starting to panick after all the hate they collected in Tegra3 owners

thunder07 said:
considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there
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Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
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there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launchs, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outed platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
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Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!
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Ninja Core xD

death__machine said:
Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
Ninja Core xD
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the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno

I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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colemanuk said:
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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yea my thoughts exactly
by the way the N7 doesnt have MHL support if i am correct?

This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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hamdir said:
the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno
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I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
colemanuk said:
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.

colemanuk said:
This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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so far im puzzled as their attitude toward the T3
if you look at the A7 config files, its detecting the game as "medium_android" with almost everything off, not a single reference to tegra
its as if it doesn't exists

Rekoil said:
I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.
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Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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colemanuk said:
Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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i would take the N7 instead with a blind eye but google shot it in the legs by removing MHL support

its just hit me! this thing will fly!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!

hamdir said:
its just hit me! this thing will fly! - ENGAGE BRAIN LESS BULL**** MODE SON!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port - YEA BUT ON LIVE IS **** I BETA TESTED IT
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient - MY GTX570 is more efficient!!!
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities - MY PC CAN PLAY ANYTHING
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes - I DONT NEED AND SKD TO DEVELOP FOR PC!
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported - ITS NOT USE YOUR BRAIN
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round - THEY DONT NEED TO
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!
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Dont be fukin stupid. Why would anyone buy a device which can do less than my PC, and less than my phone....

Advanced Gaming on The M9

So with the raw power that the M9 has, would it be possible to play console games on it or even PC games? Im talking like dying light, FC4, BF4, etc. maybe through an emulator or something? I would love to play my PC games on my phone

i tried god of war the psp game using psp emulator
its run like 8-10 FPS without any enhancement

aos10 said:
i tried god of war the psp game using psp emulator
its run like 8-10 FPS without any enhancement
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And thats PSP? huh...
So i guess bf4, if it were possible, would get terrible frame rates. bummer.

Quadrider10 said:
And thats PSP? huh...
So i guess bf4, if it were possible, would get terrible frame rates. bummer.
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Quadrider10 said:
So with the raw power that the M9 has, would it be possible to play console games on it or even PC games? Im talking like dying light, FC4, BF4, etc. maybe through an emulator or something? I would love to play my PC games on my phone
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All due respect mate, if you're talking about emulation, even the ps2 is problematic and that's on a high end gaming rig, the problem is the complex processing it uses whilst not the most powerful processor in the world it is difficult to emulate, as for anything like the the ps3 or ps4, I'm afraid at the moment its not possible and if it were it would be utterly awful and that is on a high end gaming rig.
On a phone it really is impossible, high end games like battlefield 4 would have to be created with arm architecture in mind, and even if they did decide to do that, the phone would die quickly and the game would run like a dying dog.
Sorry mate, for now and the foreseeable future the best you can expect is psx, PSP, n64 and maybe ( and this is a big maybe) emulation for the GameCube and Wii, which has been done to a degree but again, runs like a dog.
The only games which are console like which you may be able to get to run are the ones which have been created for the nvidia shield, like portal and half life 2, hardly mind blowing graphics but a really big deal for mobile gaming, I'm not too sure on the nvidia shields processor or GPU but I do know its superior to the adreno in our m9's with that in mind, even if it is possible to get it to run, you have to expect issues.
The only option you have to play games on your phone is to grab a decent pad like the Moga pro and splash top to stream the game to your device. An nvidia graphics card for your pc is preferable for this and a rock solid internet connection for your phone, even then you should expect a fair bit of input lag on those games, this technique has been around for a few years now.
Sorry its not better news mate I'd love to play black ops 2 or even cod 2 on my phone, LAN parties in work when its quiet would be epic.. I think with games like call of duty 2 its quite possible as the hardware in our phones could probably handle most of the graphics but again it'd have to be created instead of ported.
Apparently doom 3 has been ported, that's quite cool.

Zelda: The Windwaker, Dolphin (Gamecube and Wii) emulator for the Oneplus 5

Hello all,
Have been trying to get this emulator working for some time now with limited to half decent success through the likes of overclocking and reduced thermal throttling, but the experience has never been what I would call satisfactory, which is horrible because the emulator works on the shield and PC...
That being said enter the Oneplus 5
Installed the emulator from here https://dolphin-emu.org/download/?ref=btn (development versions)
Already have the game so i'm legally entitled to the ROM *NOTE* Please do not ask me to list locations where you can obtain the ROM, you should own the original before obtaining a copy
Changed the settings within the emulator and fired up the Windwaker, waited until a part of the game where it would normally lag or at the very least drop some frames and ........... perfection I've been able to play the game up until Dragon Roost Island without a single drop in performance, the HTC failed on the second island (Can't remember it's name but it's in the video) The onplus 5 has some serious power over other devices and this is testament to exactly that, a few more iterations from Qualcomm and i'm confident we'd have the grunt to be able to power some serious PC games, hell that old question of "Can it run Crysis" may be being asked soon Good times.
Anyway.
Below are instructions on how to play this game on your phone, I'm personally using a Moga controller as the experience is just waay better with a pad.
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The Emulator
Download the Emulator from here https://dolphin-emu.org/download/?ref=btn (development versions)
Obtain the ROM (Again I can't provide this)
Copy the ROM in Zip format to your SD card
Fire up the Emulator and then compare your settings to the ones found in the video
Moga
If you are going to use a Moga controller you will need to set this up so it is using HID Bluetooth, for this you would choose B not A
Open Bluetooth and add the controller that is found, should be called Moga Pro if you have a pro, or the other names respectively if you have other variants
*NOTE* the original moga pocket does not seem to want to work on the Oneplus 5, this worked on my HTC 10 but actually kills BT on the oneplus? Weird
Next download the Moga Universal Driver app which can be found from here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.obsidianx.android.mogaime
*NOTE* for some reason i couldn't find it on my play store so use the above link? Again, weird!
Click Manage controllers and you should see your previously added controller, click this and then enable the driver
Click Enable Driver
Click Current mode and select Gamepad, no virtual keyboard
You should now be able to control the cursor on screen
Lastly
For in game settings, please refer to the video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhgNxuu_YlM&t=8s
Apologies in advance, the HTC RE i used for the video does not focus well on screens? (what do you want for £40 ) and my mogas right stick is a bit icky so it doesn't always input up and down, using the Windwaker will be horrible for me i can tell
Anyway, enjoy and feel free to ask questions should you get stuck and I'll help out where I can.

I'm getting my op5 before the month ends and I'm eager to try this out.

ddaharu said:
I'm getting my op5 before the month ends and I'm eager to try this out.
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It's superb mate, first phone for it to work perfectly on.
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dladz said:
It's superb mate, first phone for it to work perfectly on.
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Checkout youtube for Tech utopia and mi6 gameplays for dolphin and ppsspp.....the phone exceptionally does well when it comes to emulators

DevilRockr said:
Checkout youtube for Tech utopia and mi6 gameplays for dolphin and ppsspp.....the phone exceptionally does well when it comes to emulators
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Yea I've tried quite a few, even metal gear works well from the psp, a solid 20fps which is basically the same as the psp was. Not many other games which will stress it as much as that does.
Funny thing is the phone doesn't even get warm.. bravo Qualcomm.
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Yea I've tried quite a few, even metal gear works well from the psp, a solid 20fps which is basically the same as the psp was. Not many other games which will stress it as much as that does.
Funny thing is the phone doesn't even get warm.. bravo Qualcomm.
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Yes i have both mi6 and op5....these both are great phones and blazingly fast i am playing nds, dreamcast, ps1, gc, wii, snes, gba, megadrive, saturn all using emulators and this phone i am in love with i am just hoping to play ps2 games with this..

DevilRockr said:
Yes i have both mi6 and op5....these both are great phones and blazingly fast i am playing nds, dreamcast, ps1, gc, wii, snes, gba, megadrive, saturn all using emulators and this phone i am in love with i am just hoping to play ps2 games with this..
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Wii games working?? That's impressive If so.
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DevilRockr said:
Yes i have both mi6 and op5....these both are great phones and blazingly fast i am playing nds, dreamcast, ps1, gc, wii, snes, gba, megadrive, saturn all using emulators and this phone i am in love with i am just hoping to play ps2 games with this..
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PS2 isnt' quite there mate, it's laggy and thats down to the architecture of the PS2 and emulating it is a massive ballache, similarly the PS3 even on a monster PC has a hard time being emulated.
It'll be done over time with optimizations but i fear that our trusty Oneplus devices may never have that ability.
But to be fair, the fact that it can run the windwaker is testament to how rapid this device actually is, PSP too, not as well optimized but it's running perfectly well.

dladz said:
PS2 isnt' quite there mate, it's laggy and thats down to the architecture of the PS2 and emulating it is a massive ballache, similarly the PS3 even on a monster PC has a hard time being emulated.
It'll be done over time with optimizations but i fear that our trusty Oneplus devices may never have that ability.
But to be fair, the fact that it can run the windwaker is testament to how rapid this device actually is, PSP too, not as well optimized but it's running perfectly well.
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It plays wii gamecube and ps2 emulator runs with 20fps, i know u cant play with but with upcoming Snapdragons i am sure that we would be playing god of war 1/2 on our beloved phones:laugh:

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It plays wii gamecube and ps2 emulator runs with 20fps, i know u cant play with but with upcoming Snapdragons i am sure that we would be playing god of war 1/2 on our beloved phones:laugh:
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Lol that's insane really isn't it, how far these beasts have come in 10 years. It's amazing. It's like they had the tech all along and they're just drip feeding us it
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dladz said:
Lol that's insane really isn't it, how far these beasts have come in 10 years. It's amazing. It's like they had the tech all along and they're just drip feeding us it
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This is the one if the reasons I love android and google

Hello, by chance someone has the settings to go well resident evil 4 ??? With the latest versions I am not able to remove a white fog that prevents me from playing

Technically this is still warez. Nintendo explicitly states on their website the falsehood of owning a physical game entitles you to have a rom. They said this is still illegal to own a rom and use it im an emulator.
Dont mean to ruin a good time on here but you can get in trouble. Heres a link since i know it will be asked for https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp

OcazPrime said:
Technically this is still warez. Nintendo explicitly states on their website the falsehood of owning a physical game entitles you to have a rom. They said this is still illegal to own a rom and use it im an emulator.
Dont mean to ruin a good time on here but you can get in trouble. Heres a link since i know it will be asked for https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp
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If i bought the game, i have the right to use it. Using it on my Wii, on my PC, or on my OP5 is the same IMO.

OcazPrime said:
Technically this is still warez. Nintendo explicitly states on their website the falsehood of owning a physical game entitles you to have a rom. They said this is still illegal to own a rom and use it im an emulator.
Dont mean to ruin a good time on here but you can get in trouble. Heres a link since i know it will be asked for https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp
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I haven't stated where to get ROMs from, plus you could dump the ROM yourself, I'm pretty certain you are legally entitled to a copy of a game you already own, I'm also certain you can download a ROM for evaluation purposes, 24 hours is the allowed time.
Obviously people don't listen to this but I have read this many times over the last decade, so unless something has changed I will always stick to what I've learned.
Not completely sure Nintendo can ask that of people? But again not sure.
PS: also as you already own the game there is no harm in obtaining a copy, they have already been paid and you the user haven't gained anything more than what you initially paid for, there is an argument for this so I'd say it's an on the fence rule.
Either way, this thread is a how to and not a break the law thread, I don't supply the locations of ROMs and I don't make anyone download anything illegal, this is simply information.