K.I.S.S. Root and debloat vs PackageDisabler Pro (Nougat) - Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Questions & Answers

Ok the title says it best.
I would like some opinions about which route you took and why.
I personally have rooted and then noticed lag every time.
After debloating it got a little better and almost near stock speed.
Following debloat I started having issues with ghost apps and apps really disappearing and not working.
I've also tried rooting, debloat, and then unrooting.
results were not much better.
Finally I'm going to try just debloating with package disabler pro and Beast mode (disabling animations etc) - No ROOT
I'll post my results but let me add I've never used a device that was not rooted so this is a nerve racking decision.

Not much activity going on with this model. Wish I would have bought something more popular. Lol.

Active magisk? + Bootloader
jjta said:
Ok the title says it best.
I would like some opinions about which route you took and why.
I personally have rooted and then noticed lag every time.
After debloating it got a little better and almost near stock speed.
Following debloat I started having issues with ghost apps and apps really disappearing and not working.
I've also tried rooting, debloat, and then unrooting.
results were not much better.
Finally I'm going to try just debloating with package disabler pro and Beast mode (disabling animations etc) - No ROOT
I'll post my results but let me add I've never used a device that was not rooted so this is a nerve racking decision.
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Hi, im new to the forum, have an s7 active but i cant seem to unlock the bootloader, or find a way to install magisk mgr so i can hide my root and still play pokemon go ... please help

king2289 said:
Hi, im new to the forum, have an s7 active but i cant seem to unlock the bootloader, or find a way to install magisk mgr so i can hide my root and still play pokemon go ... please help
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Sad to say it one of those AT&T things where they lock them and its almost impossible to unlock. Don't think its been done for this phone yet! Try to see if theirs a way to install magisk mgr using flashfire otherwise no root or no pokemon!

thanks
jjta said:
Sad to say it one of those AT&T things where they lock them and its almost impossible to unlock. Don't think its been done for this phone yet! Try to see if theirs a way to install magisk mgr using flashfire otherwise no root or no pokemon!
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thank you

jjta said:
Sad to say it one of those AT&T things where they lock them and its almost impossible to unlock. Don't think its been done for this phone yet! Try to see if theirs a way to install magisk mgr using flashfire otherwise no root or no pokemon!
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I cant install flashfire lol im not rooted (cries)

jjta said:
Ok the title says it best.
I would like some opinions about which route you took and why.
I personally have rooted and then noticed lag every time.
After debloating it got a little better and almost near stock speed.
Following debloat I started having issues with ghost apps and apps really disappearing and not working.
I've also tried rooting, debloat, and then unrooting.
results were not much better.
Finally I'm going to try just debloating with package disabler pro and Beast mode (disabling animations etc) - No ROOT
I'll post my results but let me add I've never used a device that was not rooted so this is a nerve racking decision.
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See this old post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74551312&postcount=815

I'm wondering if its the newest update thats causing the battery to act like trash...

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Auroraplay v1.1.0

Hi,
Since i can't post in the thread, so I just highlight in here.
I've been using this rom for about a month. This rom is really nice but since the new update, it gets even better. Only one small thing, the LED flashlight widget in the quickpanel didn't show up although you have tick it in the settings.
That's all. I hope someone could tell this to Spizzy01 so that he can fix this.
Thanks...
matfai said:
Hi,
Since i can't post in the thread, so I just highlight in here.
I've been using this rom for about a month. This rom is really nice but since the new update, it gets even better. Only one small thing, the LED flashlight widget in the quickpanel didn't show up although you have tick it in the settings.
That's all. I hope someone could tell this to Spizzy01 so that he can fix this.
Thanks...
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Most probably Spizzy01 has removed the flashlight because there is a bug with camera !!
Really?? Well, I didn't know that....
Thanks for a fast reply...
Swipe to move switch icons? No, havent listened...
Aurora Play Problems
Hello,
I just installed Aurora Play 1.1.0 and I am having problems which I think might be related to superuser.
The Rom works fine, but anything that requires root access gets frozen in place. My phone is rooted, I am pretty sure of it - not only the bootloader is unlocked but also, I did manage to initially change the clock speed to 1.4 ghz, and that change has remained so far.
However, if, for example, I try enabling root access on the ES File Explorer, it simply freezes the app (sort of like it is waiting for the confirmation from Superuser, but it never comes). I only ever saw the superuser authorization screen once when I changed the clock at first.
I am pretty sure the OC is not the problem, since I reinstalled the rom and did no OC on the 1st time at all, but the same problem persisted.
I would try uninstalling SU and installing that other superuser app on the market to see if that would solve the problem, but I couldn't manage to uninstall it.
Any thoughts on this? I would love to solve this problem since this room is outstanding on all other accounts.
PS.: I followed all instructions to the letter, and like I said I tried reinstalling the rom already. I am using Lupus v10 (tried Lupus v11 before on the 1st installation).
Fenrir007 said:
Hello,
I just installed Aurora Play 1.1.0 and I am having problems which I think might be related to superuser.
The Rom works fine, but anything that requires root access gets frozen in place. My phone is rooted, I am pretty sure of it - not only the bootloader is unlocked but also, I did manage to initially change the clock speed to 1.4 ghz, and that change has remained so far.
However, if, for example, I try enabling root access on the ES File Explorer, it simply freezes the app (sort of like it is waiting for the confirmation from Superuser, but it never comes). I only ever saw the superuser authorization screen once when I changed the clock at first.
I am pretty sure the OC is not the problem, since I reinstalled the rom and did no OC on the 1st time at all, but the same problem persisted.
I would try uninstalling SU and installing that other superuser app on the market to see if that would solve the problem, but I couldn't manage to uninstall it.
Any thoughts on this? I would love to solve this problem since this room is outstanding on all other accounts.
PS.: I followed all instructions to the letter, and like I said I tried reinstalling the rom already. I am using Lupus v10 (tried Lupus v11 before on the 1st installation).
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Please try downloading the following ZIP and flashing it VIA clockwork mod.
Let me know the results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1890140&d=1366191665
Spizzy01 said:
Please try downloading the following ZIP and flashing it VIA clockwork mod.
Let me know the results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1890140&d=1366191665
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Can CWM coexist with TWRP? I think I only have TWRP installed. Or can I just use TWRP instead?
missing pixels in landscape app drawer
Spizzy, first and foremost congratulations on this great rom, it is fantastic! The only gripe I'm having is that when the app drawer is in Landscape mode it is cutting some pixels on the bottom (can't see the lower end of the blue highlight when using the ps controls). Other than that, all is perfect so far.
It worked!
Thanks a lot, Spizzy! Whatever that package was, it worked great and now superuser is not giving me any headaches anymore. Everything works great and the rom is blazing fast!
Just one thing - when I checked the info that comes up on the pachage before installing it, it said it was for locked bootloaders, but I assume that was a typo (since the zip file is for unlocked, and mine is unlocked as well). Just mentioning since it could maybe cause a little confusion on people downloading it in the future.
Oh and I did use TWRP in the end - I guess it's the same thing.

[Q] Sprint Note 2 rootted stock now an update nag

Device Info: Sprint Galaxy Note 2 Running rooted stock Android 4.4.2. (chainfire auto root using odin)
Wifi only unit. I have no sprint contract purchased it used (I'm new to customizing android- I have flashed an old palm pda, but only via guidance)
Situation: Rooted the unit and have customized it as mine
1. No custom backup and would like to do that
2. Do not like all the bloatware apps
3. Now a system update has been downloaded asking to install (I've not okayed it)
So please help me with each of these
1. Please point me in the direction of best way to take a backup of existing rom ( I do have philz downloaded, but I'm not sure about how to ?
2. Would that deal with the persistent update request? Would it be good to update?
3. and then the bloatware removal, should I use an app that removes system apps? ( I have titanium, but I'm not good at knowing which apps to touch and not to touch) Thanks in advance and no I'm not in a hurry as yet.
Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section so the experts who own your device can help you.
Good luck!
Point to links please
If someone doesn't want to tackle this whole question I'd just appreciate links on how to step by step. I'd appreciate any help at all, I'm just a bit fearful of bricking the device, but if the instructions are clear I can definitely do this.
The first is issue is backup that is my priority at the moment. The second is whether to install the update or not and how to get rid of the nag. thanks
Not sure about backing up the ROM itself... but what I do is just back up the apps with Titanium and then re-load the apps (or just data) when I have to re-install my ROM like I did a couple of weeks ago. Prior to the Note II, I had an HTC Hero (stop laughing) and would do nandroids for that device. Don't know that you need that for Samsung devices, but somebody may be better to explain than I am.
ETA: here's an article on creating a nandroid, FWIW
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/
If you are rooted, I don't know that the persistent update will actually apply/install. I'm on Classic Stock 4.4.2 and I also had the same nag. Here's a link on how to disable the update nag. This is what I did, as my phone would not apply the update so I just disabled the persistent reminder using the steps below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442207
With respect to removing system apps, not sure I can offer much direction other than to suggest removing obvious apps (maybe like the Sprint Zone app) and then just doing a search on each app that looks like you can/want to delete or uninstall. Probably a bit time consuming, however, I am not aware of a "bloatware list" or anything which outlines safe-to-remove apps.
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
lost in cyberspace said:
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
lennykravitz2004 said:
You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
lost in cyberspace said:
Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Don't know if adb adblock is better - I've never used it. Didn't see you mention a couple of these things when you said you were "all set for awhile", so I was just trying to offer a few other things to consider and look into. Sounds like you're already on the ball though!
Personally, I'm happy with stock. Big reason for me to root was getting rid of ads. I've tried some of the other ROMs but I've always come back to the stock look and feel. I've had the device since about 1 week after it came out in Fall 2012. Of course, I am also on my third one since I totaled two other ones. I absolutely love it, and am in no hurry to upgrade (if possible). Hope you enjoy it as I have... lots of good stuff from devs here!

Stock Lollipoop rooted with SuperSU - but it keeps resetting everything I do

see #5 for problem
Hi guys,
so after quite some time with custom Roms I decided to go stock again as somehow I don't need root at all. Well, that's not true. I miss AdAway.
As there is no possibility to root the stock rom, is there ANY AdBlocker that works on Lollipop? AdBlock Plus doesn't (yet).
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
ckpv5 said:
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
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How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
fBx said:
How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
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Flash twrp recovery and root through the recovery. It'll ask you when you reboot the system if you want to root it
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Huh. Didn't know it was THAT straightforward and I've been flashing my phones for years.
Well. I flashed TWRP and SuperSU 2.46, succeeded. But Adaway and Adfree don't work correctly. They block the ads but only until you reboot, then it's reverted, kinda like with a tethered jailbreak on iPhones.
What am I doing wrong here? Also the block is not like on KitKat - there it was really blocked, really removed, here only the images of the ads are removed but you still see the space they were supposed to be.
I also used a system app removal tool that also didn't work although it shows success. It just removes the installed data like updates.
When I delete apps manually via ES Explorer, they just reappear at the next reboot.
Root Checker says root is fine but it isn't supposed to behave like that and undo my changes.
What's wrong? Do I need another kernel maybe? As I said I went back to stock completely and updatet through to L.
I believe I got whats causing the issue.
After deleting a system app and rebooting, I got a message saying that the phone was restored from an "unnormal behaviour". Does Lollipop bring some kind of system restore point that just automatically restores itself when "weird" things like host file alteration happens? If yes, how do I get rid of that?
This phone has always had system files protected since KitKat. You need a kernel mod to delete system apps.
Don't know why the ad blockers aren't working. Adaway is working fine for me on stock US Dev Edition rooted. You said you are using Adaway and AdFree? Are you actually using both at the same time? maybe they are interfering with each other?
No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
Maybe I should try installing xposed and see if it's gone after a reboot.
fBx said:
Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
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The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But unfortunately, flar2 hasn't had the time to update for LP. A user posted the kernel module in Post #210, but a subsequent user said it doesn't work. Custom ROMs have write protection disabled, as does Dev Edition stock ROM.
fBx said:
No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
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Odd, as mentioned, I've used AdAway for quite some time now, and don't have these issues.
Yes, very odd indeed. Well, if I don't get it sorted out somehow I might as well switch to Viper or some other close to stock custom Rom again, or make it Dev like you.
Things are getting worse, in 1 of 2 cases AdAway spits an error at me when trying to apply the fixes and the phone just reboots and undos everything. It's like some protection from rooting or changing anything although I am rooted. I don't understand it. I can't possibly be the only one having problems with root on Stock Lollipop
This is really annoying me. I think I'm better of just installing a custom rom and setting the phone up again, will cost me an hour but at least I'm done with the bugs.
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
fBx said:
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
redpoint73 said:
Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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I also assume that's the reason. I've never been on a stock rom since I don't know when, but figured that actually I only wanted AdAway which would normally not require a custom rom per se... but as it didn't really work in the end (and also other root-requiring stuff), I went back to custom again. Well, it's not that it's that difficult to wipe the phone occasionally and set up a clean custom rom to get it back to perfect performance. Gonna go with it.

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WOW, Nice!!! Is the process repeatable for other Devices? Also I notice that the ROM is version DOI2, it is compatible with more recent version like DOI6? Looking forward to more details.
I do hope this is true..any details as to how you've done this?
I saw titanium backup *fail* gaining root access twice, did *not* see busy box get root, there was a lot of shaking, I'm not sure what I saw, if anything..... you can install all those apps and not get root.
As far as I'm concerned, move along, nothing to see here. Until something more definitive is shown.
Shanghai.Knight said:
I saw titanium backup *fail* gaining root access twice, did *not* see busy box get root, there was a lot of shaking, I'm not sure what I saw, if anything..... you can install all those apps and not get root.
As far as I'm concerned, move along, nothing to see here. Until something more definitive is shown.
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Are you happy with MM beta ? . What's difference if compare with 5.1.1 ?
quanqngbk said:
Are you happy with MM beta ? . What's difference if compare with 5.1.1 ?
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Very happy with the mm beta. Phone is much faster. There are nice improvements in pen and other things. I like approving or blocking app access to contacts and other information. That's my biggest plus . Battery seems about the same, but sleep battery usage is much better. People will like the update.
I'm also running "good lock" which provides Samsung touch wiz improvements. Highly recommended
Shanghai.Knight said:
Very happy with the mm beta. Phone is much faster. There are nice improvements in pen and other things. I like approving or blocking app access to contacts and other information. That's my biggest plus . Battery seems about the same, but sleep battery usage is much better. People will like the update.
I'm also running "good lock" which provides Samsung touch wiz improvements. Highly recommended
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does it must require external sd card for upgrading? Can not use internal storage ? Tksss
quanqngbk said:
does it must require external sd card for upgrading? Can not use internal storage ? Tksss
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External card is not necessary, but makes life so much easier than installing something on your computer and using a command line interface to force the update. Directions for both are mentioned in the thread. If I've helped remember to hit thanks.
Shanghai.Knight said:
External card is not necessary, but makes life so much easier than installing something on your computer and using a command line interface to force the update. Directions for both are mentioned in the thread. If I've helped remember to hit thanks.
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Tks,i will try to upgrade without external sd card
Shanghai.Knight said:
I saw titanium backup *fail* gaining root access twice, did *not* see busy box get root, there was a lot of shaking, I'm not sure what I saw, if anything..... you can install all those apps and not get root.
As far as I'm concerned, move along, nothing to see here. Until something more definitive is shown.
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I seen this post than I laughed and watch the video, but you are right they are trying to get credit when all they did was use kingroot and Super SU-Me. Which is why titanium backup failed.
Tho if you really think about it the only reason why you have Super SU-Me app is to remove kingroot to install Super SU. That is how you know this is fake.
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This root may temporary,it' has gone after reset
Shanghai.Knight said:
I saw titanium backup *fail* gaining root access twice, did *not* see busy box get root, there was a lot of shaking, I'm not sure what I saw, if anything..... you can install all those apps and not get root.
As far as I'm concerned, move along, nothing to see here. Until something more definitive is shown.
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This. Also, I can do a "rooted" video, too with temp root. Reboot and show me something then I'll be interested.
EkriirkE said:
This. Also, I can do a "rooted" video, too with temp root. Reboot and show me something then I'll be interested.
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Does the temp root even work anymore? Last I heard an update a few months ago made Kingroot stop working. Also Kingroot seems to have gotten harder to remove.
Removed link and closing thread. Move along please.

Worth Rooting?

Hi all,
Joining Team Pixel tomorrow after my debacle with the Huawei Mate 20 Pro and the green screen fiasco.
Just wondering if its still worth rooting the Pixel? If i do it i wanna do it straight away to save wiping my data again when unlocking the BL. My main reasons would be for Adaway, Removing the Nav Bar, Swift theme installer and Viper.
Most of these can be done via ADB now so is it still worth rooting?
Rooting this phone is pretty easy and it doesn't impact the updating process much if you know what you're doing, so I vote that it is definitely worth rooting.
I don't use a lot of root apps, but the two main ones are worth it to me. I use AdAway for ads (VPN ad blockers are slower and have several cons) and an app called Sa2ration to compensate for the screen's weak color.
I have everything working the way I want without any compromises. Very happy with my setup.
It's soooo easy to root, I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't. My main reason is viper 4 android, but adaway, pixel launcher mods (changes icons and has a system UI tuner), and sd maid pro having deeper access for cleanup as well.
I've always had an Android phone that has been able to be rooted. Adaway, V4A, Substratum, Sa2ration, Titanium Backup and removing the stock navigation buttons are the biggest things for me currently with the Pixel 3 XL.
I always recommend unlocking the bootloader right out of the box, even if you never plan to root. The sole reason for this is if at any point something goes awry and you end up in a bootloop or somehow end up soft bricked, with an unlocked bootloader you can be back up and running like new with a very quick flash-all script from the latest factory image on Google's support site. However, with a locked bootloader, if you find yourself in one of those bad situations, you're at the mercy of Google support to either get you a new device or go days without a phone while they try and fix it.
So, in my opinion, unlocking the bootloader is a no brainer on these phones, right from the get-go.
With that said, rooting is much more user preference. I found no reason to root my OnePlus 6. However, with the 3 XL my sole reason for rooting is to edit the build.prop to properly hide the nav bar at the system level, allowing me to use gesture controls without issue. You can use ADB commands to achieve this as well. But my experience in trying to hide the nav bar with ADB commands on this phone has caused some wonky things to happen, such as status bar notifications not going away and volume controls getting cut off when watching something in landscape mode. Rooting the phone and editing the build.prop was the only solution that worked for me to hide the nav bar without running into unforeseen issues.
If you are one to do other things like use Magisk modules and such, then rooting will be a no brainer for you. Also, as someone else mentioned, rooting this phone is the most straight forward/simple experience I've had rooting a phone in years.
Thanks guys thats it decided then. Is it best to OTA to november then root via twrp after ul bootloader.
Yeah nav bar is a pet hate of mine, I used to love LMT launcher, might try the OP gestures though on this one
Guitarfreak26 said:
Thanks guys thats it decided then. Is it best to OTA to november then root via twrp after ul bootloader.
Yeah nav bar is a pet hate of mine, I used to love LMT launcher, might try the OP gestures though on this one
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Try this: [Guide] Pixel 3 XL Android 9.0 (Pie) Unlock/Root/Install Images/Kernels/Recovery + by Homeboy76 do #4 then #8 if you want root. Also, Prerequisites has a link to download SDK Platform tools r28.0.1, if it needs updating.
gettinwicked said:
It's soooo easy to root, I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't. My main reason is viper 4 android, but adaway, pixel launcher mods (changes icons and has a system UI tuner), and sd maid pro having deeper access for cleanup as well.
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I'm perfectly happy with the stock experience on this phone. I have no need for anything that requires root. I've rooted a lot of phones in the past, but there's something about this one that I just feel no need to do so. To me that says a lot for how far Google has come.
I'm getting my pixel 3 xl in a few hours today and I've been up all night watching pixel 3 xl videos. I was just about to post a question like this, but thanks to you I don't have to! The wonders of searching.
Anyways, I agree for adway and maybe even mods.
What bothers me is if I decide to use Google pay, Pokemon go or using my bank app, because I was told rooting can stop them from allowing me to use them.
I also want to do it out the box.
Also don't know about the new gesture stuff, so if I don't like it, I'd probably want to mod it.
Guitarfreak26 said:
Thanks guys thats it decided then. Is it best to OTA to november then root via twrp after ul bootloader.
Yeah nav bar is a pet hate of mine, I used to love LMT launcher, might try the OP gestures though on this one
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That is exactly what I did with both a Pixel 3 and a Pixel 3 XL. Just don't do a permanent install of TWRP on the XL unless you want to lose your touch screen in TWRP with no way out of TWRP when it boots back in there. I ended up having to hold the power button down until I forced the device off. Booted back into bootloader and ran the temp TWRP (which strangely works fine for touch) and then ran Magisk again to get back to the OS. Strange, the regukar Pixel 3 took permanent TWRP after Magisk, rebooted to TWRP was still able to use touch commands and ran Magisk again to get back to the proper boot image. I can even go to TWRP normally, and touch is functioning normally. I'll have to write the stock boot image when I get home today so I can get back to stock recovery until TWRP for XL is fixed.
GunToYoMouth123 said:
What bothers me is if I decide to use Google pay, Pokemon go or using my bank app, because I was told rooting can stop them from allowing me to use them.
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Magisk has a hide feature built-in that has been working for me. I have several apps that normally detect root and Magisk blocks their detection 100%. My banking app works (normally detects root) and Google Pay is working just fine with Magisk hide.
I've been learning to live with stock ROMS, BUT, I still need my root. Adaway, TiBu, Substratum, LMT Launcher. I can't give 'em up.
Sevael said:
Magisk has a hide feature built-in that has been working for me. I have several apps that normally detect root and Magisk blocks their detection 100%. My banking app works (normally detects root) and Google Pay is working just fine with Magisk hide.
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Ohh okay, thanks for that input !
My pixel 3 XL just got here !
Going to see what's up !
Sevael said:
Magisk has a hide feature built-in that has been working for me. I have several apps that normally detect root and Magisk blocks their detection 100%. My banking app works (normally detects root) and Google Pay is working just fine with Magisk hide.
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My banking apps work fine but i can't get google pay to work. Even with magisk hide still not work. "This account already exists on your device" wheni try to sign in
J32A said:
My banking apps work fine but i can't get google pay to work. Even with magisk hide still not work. "This account already exists on your device" wheni try to sign in
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Not sure, I haven't encountered this.
I find that when an app has detected root, sometimes they retain this information even through reboots. In those situations, clearing all data from the app often fixes it.
Something else to be aware of is that if you have a widget for an app that detects root, it's not uncommon for the widget to load before Magisk finishes loading and hiding after a reboot. On my Pixel 2 I had one app where after each reboot it would load first (due to a widget being present) and would detect root and block itself. I had to remove the widget and just just use a normal shortcut to the app instead, as I would never manually open it before Magisk finished loading up fully.
I just got pixel 2 xl this thing is a beast came with 5g and unlimted data when I got tablets for kids literally no download it's all instant. every phone I have had b4 is rooted most still work. My question will I improve anything by rooting with this speed? I don't think a VPN blckr would slow it down. How hard is it to reverse root if I need warranty? Is this speed the 5g or just Google built a great product?
sn0warmy said:
I always recommend unlocking the bootloader right out of the box, even if you never plan to root. The sole reason for this is if at any point something goes awry and you end up in a bootloop or somehow end up soft bricked, with an unlocked bootloader you can be back up and running like new with a very quick flash-all script from the latest factory image on Google's support site. However, with a locked bootloader, if you find yourself in one of those bad situations, you're at the mercy of Google support to either get you a new device or go days without a phone while they try and fix it.
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Unlocking the bl is problematic in some instances. Detection for apps and things like that. Why would you just not check off the "allow the bootloader to be unlocked" option in OEM unlocking? Then you get to fastboot and can unlock if needed without actually being unlocked and compromised.
bobby janow said:
Unlocking the bl is problematic in some instances. Detection for apps and things like that. Why would you just not check off the "allow the bootloader to be unlocked" option in OEM unlocking? Then you get to fastboot and can unlock if needed without actually being unlocked and compromised.
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It is my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that apps recognize root but not bootloader locked status. As long as you don't root, you should be fine with all apps.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
Eudeferrer said:
It is my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that apps recognize root but not bootloader locked status. As long as you don't root, you should be fine with all apps.
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No I don't think so. If you bl unlock it will be detected. There are kernels that will fix that but stock unlocked is a trigger.
Eudeferrer said:
It is my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that apps recognize root but not bootloader locked status. As long as you don't root, you should be fine with all apps.
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Yes. As @bobby janow said, some apps treat bootloader unlock as having root. DirecTV Now is a prime example. Also, Netflix won't even appear in the app store and would have to be sideloaded. Although, all of those can be worked around it is sometimes a pain.

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