Has anyone else noticed the file size for photos taken on the one x? My Photo's taken at full resolution are only coming in at circa 1.8mb - seems rather small often images at the same resolution we're double the size on my DHD.
I use Camera ZOOM FX, much better app than the stock, it also not as aggressive with compression in post processing.
P.S. Just did a quick test, photo taken in Camera Zoom FX (2.7mb) is twice the size of photo in stock camera app (1.4mb).
Bigmille said:
I use Camera ZOOM FX, much better app than the stock, it also not as aggressive with compression in post processing.
P.S. Just did a quick test, photo taken in Camera Zoom FX (2.7mb) is twice the size of photo in stock camera app (1.4mb).
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I think we lose the cool features of the stock app such as the burst mode and the recording video and taking pictures
You can also have more than one camera app. Stock for burst mode, one for taking lower compression photo and another for social media.
Edit: just tried burst mode in the camera zoom app, and it is faster the stock! You can take up to 32 photos in one burst around 8 sec!
It looks like the app uses video recording for the duration of the burst and process the photos afterword. It is an interesting way of doing burst mode.
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You can also have more than one camera app. Stock for burst mode, one for taking lower compression photo and another for social media.
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Good point Or I can hope the DEVs can fix the high compression rate. Some Useful Data must be getting lost
Hey guys, wich one mode use For taking photos? HDR+ should be better on results, but I dont see any diference with the HDR ON.. The opossite.. The file of HDR+ its like 4MB and on HDR ON like 8MB..and Picture quality the same..
great question.. i use HDR+ enhanced by default
Did you noticed any better diference? Just in dark room i can notice little bit. .
HDR+ enhanced forces the maximum number of exposure samples to be applied to the final composition as regular HDR+ determines on its own how many exposures are needed.
I read somewhere that the maximum number of exposures is 12, which will be forced with "enhanced". With "enhanced" you usually get better results, especially in low light conditions and in general dynamic range and noise reduction, but you loose the Zero Shutter Lag feature since the composition takes a while to compute compared to regular HDR+ where the auto mode starts capturing in the background already before taking the shot.
The file size differs so much since, I believe, more pixel information will be captured with "enhanced", making images captured in this mode more attractive and "compatible" for post processing work.
I usually go for AUTO MODE, but sometimes switch to enhanced to see if the final outcome in a specific scene and moment comes out better on that mode as well.
I do the same like you...on other phones i had, with ported Gcam the HDR+ had Amazing results comparing with the HDR ON.. But on My pixel i dont see that diference exceot the file size and sometimes in some very low Light conditions..
In the latest update sony seemed to add some camera updates besides that audio setting.
(50.1.A.13.83)
It seems there is more color after you take the picture.
Also when HDR is on (manual mode), it seems it only does a hdr photo whenever it's needed, for example when im just taking a photo of an object it takes a single photo and does no hdr but whenever the background is brighter than the foreground it takes 3 photos and then combines them.
Anyone else noticed it?
Yes ! I was about to ask, if it's just me or the camera takes much better low light photos now ?
Before it was just bumping ISO to 12800 in real low light conditions, and the photo quality was like well, 1/ISO
Now not even the used ISO level is lower, or at least not bumped so quickly, but even the Superior Auto mode used for low light produces more detailed photos. And plain "Night mode" photos are really nice now.
Now I really enjoy my Xperia's camera (which I really hated before, tbh...)
Really, really good job, SONY !!
Google Camera (all versions) running Pie OS has been very hit and miss in the focus problem, and therefore until a developer or OTA update can fix this issue, it is not recommended for pictures that matter. It is inconsistent as to when these issues occur. This being the case, if you are plagued with the Pie update, your camera performance results will not always be good.
After extensive testing with many hundreds of comparative photos taken with many camera apps this is the simple final conclusion:
Note that all these (except the stock app) require Camera2 API. Instructions elsewhere on this site.
For outdoor photos in bright light: Winner Stock A2 Lite camera app with the following settings:
Picture Quality:High, Contrast:Low, Saturation:High, Sharpness:High. These settings tend to take faster photos than HDR with similar results.
Note that all the camera apps work about the same in overall picture quality and only minor emphasis on color variations. While the google Cameras had a better saturation and warmer tone, the HDR artifacts in the sky make the photos only usable at lower screen resolutions. That limits your ability to crop or enlarge to bigger sizes. The stock camera did not exhibit these with HDR on.
For Indoor and low light: Winner in every test was the Pixel 2 camera app (GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk) with HDR off or on depending on light levels. It produced sharp photos with surprisingly good clarity. The stock app was normally muddy and gcam 6+ was too grainy. As a bonus, the portrait mode zooms in (like the gcam 6+, which makes people look less distorted) and there is a motion video option (not tested yet) and lens blur that works better than the 2 lens system of the stock app, but the photos become only 5mp. Like the GCam 6+, HDR for solid color areas (like sky) had the same pattern. Haven't played with all the developer settings yet.
For ultra low light: Winner is the Google Camera 6 (MGC_6.1.013_MiMAX2_V1b_A8.1+fix_Hexagon_failed+blFront.apk) using the night sight feature found under More > Night. The idiosyncrasies of spontaneous app closure when a second shot is desired is annoying, however the results from their algorithm of image stacking is very well done. It also works well to create the smooth water motion for water falls and cascades, but only in dim light.
The gcam 5 app (GCamera_Mod_v.5.1.23_R5Plus_fix_crash.apk), that interestingly the pixel 2 app is based on, did not win in any category.
So I now have 3 camera apps to choose from depending on the photo required. Download an icon app to distinguish the 3 easily. I would imagine these results would be similar on other phones as well.
A note on HDR. None of the phone camera apps do HDR the way it is intended. In normal photography, HDR lightens areas in shadows and darkens blown out bright areas for a more usable photo by combining under exposed, properly exposed and overexposed images that are stacked and aligned. In all the camera apps tested, it makes little difference to shadows and even made shadows darker in the gcam HDR modes. What it does when needed is take multiple underexposed images (each at a faster exposure or lower ISO) and combine to increase (not decrease) contrast for a more vivid (but often artificial) contrast look, while better saturating colors and less noise for hand held images in low light. To do a proper HDR, you need to bracket the exposure and combine in photo shop (PS). There are phone apps that allow exposure bracketing and create the HDR in PS if you really want to get that involved. HDR+ only uses HDR when needed and HDR+ Enhanced the HDR is always on. When no HDR icon is visible, HDR is the HDR+ on when needed (auto mode).
I am currently running pie, and random focus issues have been surfacing for all the gcams. I read a comment that may be an issue with pie vs oreo, although not certain. It seems like Android One users are Google Beta testers. Pies battery life is much worse and no way to see what apps are causing the drain. I suspect it will get fixed in an update. Not for this forum though, there are already many out there for this issue. Main camera is set to Nexus 6P and Front camera a Nexus 5. I read elsewhere that this was optimal, but did not test if the others made any difference. The Nexus phones DO NOT use the same camera (sensor & Lens) on either the Front or Back camera so I am uncertain how much difference the setting actually makes. Most of the other settings were left as installed, although I am still testing to see if any improve the quality. Please chime in if you find any improvements and I will test and update this post. There is always room for improvements.
I would really welcome a more stable google camera build without the focus, night sight and HDR pattern issues. If someone has a line to the developer of these modded apps, please let them know.
Hi, thanks for sharing this. Do you have any specific settings for any of these apps? (Besides HDR)
Which gcam do you use for front selfies? On r5plus mod i get dank front selfies in good lighting but struggles so much on low light so much grain, noise and distortion. Or do you have any specific settings? Thanks
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Hi, thanks for sharing this. Do you have any specific settings for any of these apps? (Besides HDR)
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I will do some more experimentation and update the post when I finish. It is very time consuming for the developer settings do not have easy explanations as to what they do.
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Which gcam do you use for front selfies? On r5plus mod i get dank front selfies in good lighting but struggles so much on low light so much grain, noise and distortion. Or do you have any specific settings? Thanks
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Pixel 2 for selfies, but HDR must be off for the photo to record. BTW, the flash works, but not sure it is any better then ambient light. Main issue is the 5mp front camera is a bit outdated. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig.
thanks and keep up the good work!
i think test results need to be explained a bit more detailed. for ex. oreo or pie based? you know, it's reported a lot that pie has gcams' losing focus issues (mostly with flash, blurry photos)
and yes, HDR and saturation (or maybe more) settings sharing would be better...
Hi rob1,
there are 6 GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk in this link https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/.
which apk is that?
N6PbsgfixPortrait-GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
bsgfixPortrait-GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
bsgfix-GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
MI8_V1_N6_GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
OP6_N6_GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
Arnova's v8.2: GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
thanks!
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Hi rob1,
there are 6 GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk in this link https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/.
which apk is that?
N6PbsgfixPortrait-GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
bsgfixPortrait-GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
bsgfix-GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
MI8_V1_N6_GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
OP6_N6_GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
Arnova's v8.2: GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk
thanks!
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Arnova's v8.2: GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.2.apk (Arnova8G2, 2018-08-13, changelog)
Although I am not certain if it is the best. When visiting the rose parade floats, there were random times where focus was an issue. I will experiment further with other versions. Many of the apks that are not compatible will just not start up (black screen or return to home screen). It would be nice to find a more stable version.
I agree except for the stock camera For outdoor photos in bright light... textures are always "muddier" than gcam to me. It can have a more precise light sometimes but it's a price not worth to pay IMO. If someone doesn't want to be bothered I'd suggest to use only the google camera 6 in order to have at hand always the night mode, arnova is generally sharper but you need to fully zoom it to spot the difference... i noticed also that the night mode of camera 6 produces better results than arnova even in mid/low light scenes but not always and not for all the shots... smt i make two shots with arnova and camera 6 night mode and keep the best... pity that camera 6 doesn't allow to be started by double tapping on the power button though.
Are you running Pie or Oreo? Are you having intermittent focus issues with the gcams? Will night sight always allow a second night sight photo without restarting the camera app? Have you looked at a solid blue sky with HDR on any gcam, and is there a pattern there? Thank you.
BTW, all my tests I enlarged the photos to 100% pixel level and more in PS comparing many areas of the photo in unison.
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Are you running Pie or Oreo? Are you having intermittent focus issues with the gcams? Will night sight always allow a second night sight photo without restarting the camera app? Have you looked at a solid blue sky with HDR on any gcam, and is there a pattern there? Thank you.
BTW, all my tests I enlarged the photos to 100% pixel level and more in PS comparing many areas of the photo in unison.
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I'm running Pie, i do have some refocusing (but often it stops) but only in very low light condition. I didn't experience problems on second shots of night mode but smt it quits when i select night mode though. I do remember sometimes to see a pattern but only in night mode and in bright light I think. That was also a reason for not to use always the night mode btw... will do a shot on a deep blu sky when I'll see it but as far as I remember I didn't see this issue with arnova at least
I use one Gcam app called "Gcamera" is only in english and hdr front camera works..but is a older version of gcam and don't have a night mode photo etc, IMHO the best choice is for video on 60fps the xiaomi camera (in Pie update 60fps is enable) , for general video and photo gcam (a lot of optimization and hdr+) , and for selfies gcam with hdr off..waiting for it to work.
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I use one Gcam app called "Gcamera" is only in english and hdr front camera works..but is a older version of gcam and don't have a night mode photo etc, IMHO the best choice is for video on 60fps the xiaomi camera (in Pie update 60fps is enable) , for general video and photo gcam (a lot of optimization and hdr+) , and for selfies gcam with hdr off..waiting for it to work.
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I didn't test it toroughly but I had the impression the video to be more stabilized and better detailed with arnova than the stock one... moreover I can use H265 to encode it...
btw i do have focusing problems with gcam and pie...
At the moment, the only solution for focus Gcam problem, Is change 4:3 to 16:9 and restart the app...
? i'm always in 16:9 but when I switch it doesn't work anyway...
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? i'm always in 16:9 but when I switch it doesn't work anyway...
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Try to force close the app, after changing the size
it's just terrible any news for update gcam app to handle pie?
This developer's works great for me, no crashes on night sight so far and more customisable
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-backrider/
Just don't switch to the front camera and photobooth or you have to force stop the camera to be able to save images
Try the bulkin043 V8Y
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It is optimized for mi a2 but some said everything works except hdr on the front cam
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On ver 5r the development said he has fix the focus too.
Guys, I have a question about the camera of this device. I've always used an iPhone or other Samsung S-line device. When taking pictures of my always-moving daughter, or dog, on the Samsung (S7, S10e) always the hands or feet are blurry (even shooting in the daylight, where the shutter speed is the highest possible) . On the iPhone, I always get photos without this blur. Does anyone have experience in this type of situation with the Pixel?
Yes, if you have HDR+ Enhanced enabled you'll get blurry pictures that's why I use HDR+ and Motion or without any HDR option enabled.
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Yes, if you have HDR+ Enhanced enabled you'll get blurry pictures that's why I use HDR+ and Motion or without any HDR option enabled.
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Without HDR it gets much more static? That's nice. If you could post a sample it you be nice