Anyone noticed an improvement after Feb 5 update? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Hello guys!
As we all know there been a new update for Pixel 2 XL few days ago and I don't know how many people know what's been updated so here is a pic:
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and basically I wanted to ask you guys how has the improvement been for you? Have you noticed any better/worse things?
For me I noticed that Snapchat and Instagram has been taking alot of battery now where I just used 30m of Snapchat taking 17% battery and Instagram 57min taking 11%.
What do you guys think?

Thrillofit said:
Hello guys!
As we all know there been a new update for Pixel 2 XL few days ago and I don't know how many people know what's been updated so here is a pic:
and basically I wanted to ask you guys how has the improvement been for you? Have you noticed any better/worse things?
For me I noticed that Snapchat and Instagram has been taking alot of battery now where I just used 30m of Snapchat taking 17% battery and Instagram 57min taking 11%.
What do you guys think?
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Don't see a difference for me. Camera is slightly better I've noticed. Other than that nothing else.
Question for you is where did you get that chart?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Don't see a difference for me. Camera is slightly better I've noticed. Other than that nothing else.
Question for you is where did you get that chart?
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Basically I checked from Battery usage on the phone.. Settings > Battery

Thrillofit said:
Basically I checked from Battery usage on the phone.. Settings > Battery
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Lol no, I meant the graph you posted with the improvements list.

My battery life degraded like hell
I manually flashed the image but that should not make a difference
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Lol no, I meant the graph you posted with the improvements list.
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https://www.droid-life.com/2018/02/...ecurity-update-goes-live-nexus-pixel-devices/

I also feel like it is draining faster... Also there is some more heat coming to the device? don't have any objective evidence though...

locke94 said:
I also feel like it is draining faster... Also there is some more heat coming to the device? don't have any objective evidence though...
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I can agree with draining but not with the heat honestly. Since I just do social media often.

I have seen a few reports that Android Auto started working for some users with the Feb update.
Can't say that I've noticed poor battery performance, but that's not to say that it isn't legit.
Overall, feels like the same device I had running the January image, nothing says WOW...

Actually for me, the battery has been better.

I think so Battery its better with the update on My pixel..

The biggest thing for me was the bluetooth connection in may car. I have an LG Watch sport connected to my phone all the time. Before the update, it was like the watch didn't want to let go of the phone, and it would not automatically connect to the car when I got in. I would have to go into the phone, and manually select the car to connect. Then I would have to wait a minute or more before I could play music or make a phone call or the car would tell me it was searching for a phone to connect to, even though the BT light was on indicating a device was connected. The first time I got in my car, after flashing the February update, after I started the car, my phone immediately connected to the car, and Android Auto fired up just like it is supposed to. I was able to listen to music, and make phone calls right away. It has happened like that ever since. I'm so very happy that it works like it's supposed to now. As for battery, it's still great. My 2 XL has always had killer battery life. I can go about a day and a half on one charge. A couple weeks ago, I took a Friday off from work, and was busy moving, so I didn't use my phone a whole lot. I took it off the charge on Friday morning about 8:00 am, and I didn't have to charge it until Sunday around lunch time.

Okay, I'll keep watching my battery... Maybe it was a random temporary decline... Your experiences sound good

When I do these updates, I usually clear the cache for Play services and Google services framework. Maybe it's the flashaholic side of me that always wants to clean flash everything...

Hmmm, I will try now from 100-20%~

Have you guys tried recalibrating the battery? Since a lot of these battery issues people complain about are right after updates. Haven't updated to Feb patch yet tho so I can't comment on battery life.

Just tried 100 to 3% and I would say its been better, Usually I barley came up to 6h and now its 6h and 44 min!
Here below is my apps:

I think battery is excellent, if it wasn't for Maps I know I can get more out of it:
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
Lol no, I meant the graph you posted with the improvements list.
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https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2018-02-01

It's the best update to date mate!

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HTC One X - yes or no?

I have a pretty hard decision to make and I would really like to hear your opinion. I have a chance to extend my contract and replace my Galaxy S i9000 with the One X, but I'm not entirely sure if that's a good idea. First I'd like to state that I love the size of both the device and the screen. Now I don't really know how the battery is gonna do for me. I usually listen to music on my earphones for about 2 - 3 hours a day and I don't use any kind of data connection, just Wifi. Do you think it will get me through about 13 hours? Now I've read about the screen flickering issues and that part concerns me a lot. I understand that HTC released some updates. Did those updates completely remove the flickering problem? And I have one more question. How hot does the device get when you push the Tegra 3 to its limits? I would really appreciate any kind of feedback from you, the One X users and please let me know if there are some other problems that I didn't mention (I don't count the rainbow effect as a problem, since I won't be trying to crush my device). Thank you
13 hours sounds like a lot, but turning off wifi when you don't use it and the carrier data connection would save battery. there's only 1 other phone to pick from for Android and it's not out until about June, so if you can't buy at full price and go month to month and you don't want to wait until June - then get this one. there are also a bunch of threads about all of this. i would hate to have to mod this section.
i'm getting mine next week, but i'm paying full price because i'm on contract from the GS II until Oct 2013. after that, i'm switching to Red Pocket or something like that.
I know, I read all about the problems but I would just like some opinions on the worth of the device and how it does on a day to day use. I really don't want to spend so much on a device and then be sorry for that decision for 2 years. I have to have my decision ready by Monday and the opinions from you guys would help me a whole lot. I read literally dozens of reviews but that's just the first look, I need some information about the daily usage.
I reach 13 hours with 2.5hrs screen time on a daily basis
DomCowell said:
I reach 13 hours with 2.5hrs screen time on a daily basis
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Wow that's pretty good. Do you have any build quality or screen flickering issues?
CroatianBoy said:
Wow that's pretty good. Do you have any build quality or screen flickering issues?
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1day and 14hrs with 3hrs screen on time and that is with wifi on all the time...go for the phone mate. or wait till the s3 gets released and then make your decision. both great phones and great in their own rights....build quality of my phone no issues..minor software bugs but waiting for the update to come so it should sort it
So you guys are satisfied with the phone and it's the best phone on the market now, right? I guess I'll buy it on Monday then. Thank you very much for helping me with this decision
Get one infact if u can afford them get 2
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Sorry for coming in late, but I would also highly recommend this phone. Battery has been running now for 1 day and 4 hours without a charge. I haven't used the phone a great deal in the last 28 hours, however WiFi and Bluetooth have been enabled throughout.
Battery showing 60% charge.
It's a great phone!
+1 for the One X. I listen to music from the phone easily 3-4 hours a day, half of which is in the car. I noticed that if I turn the wifi off when I'm out and about, the phone can last a damn long time playing music. I haven't tested exact usage, but from memory, a forty minute drive used about 1% of battery or so.
Also, I have no hardware issues at all. Absolutely perfect phone. Only time when the battery really drops fast is if you are using it heavily with say a game, or internet with brightness set above 65% or so
Thank you guys, you have been really helpful. I just wasn't sure about the overall quality of the device and how bad those "problems" are, but you made it clear that the One X is worth the money
CroatianBoy said:
Wow that's pretty good. Do you have any build quality or screen flickering issues?
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With constant music?
Anyhow, the Tegra 3 is supposed to have the support core which may improve battery life significantly when the screen is off (even if listening to music?)
Maybe I can try some tests!
I only just got mine.
Then there's always SetCPU (and it's profile functionality).
CroatianBoy said:
Thank you guys, you have been really helpful. I just wasn't sure about the overall quality of the device and how bad those "problems" are, but you made it clear that the One X is worth the money
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Here's a screen shot of mine 3G streaming a couple of hours of Rhapsody over BT today with not much display on-time. From my experience, Wi-Fi drains the battery less than 3G. The display is the big battery eater so for music with the display off you should make your 13 hour goal.
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I say yes! go for it!
My batt is now in 51% and has been used for 13 hrs with screen on 1.40hrs
I have no issues with screen or anything else.
Can't complain about battery life but my use has been light so far.
That's why I love the XDA community, it's always ready to help Thank you once again and wish me luck in getting a problem-free One X
Had this phone for a week now and it's a perfect device. No issues at all, build quality is awesome, software could be a bit more tuned and optimized, but really, this is the best smartphone on the market at the moment. I'd give it 9/10. Sretno
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First day with M8, feel battery is draining fast

i feel like my battery is draining fast, i havnt done much today on the phone only a little over an hour of screen on time, and not sure if its normal but was at the movies and my phone was pretty warm in my pocket doing nothing
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First day? You might try a couple of charges before hiding it. It's not terrible. About 4 hours of screen on in 21 hours is not that bad for first charge.
I notice from the screenshot that your 4G reception is pretty poor (only 1 bar). The radio is by far, the biggest drainer of battery life. So that being considered, your battery life isn't bad.
jlevy73 said:
I notice from the screenshot that your 4G reception is pretty poor (only 1 bar). The radio is by far, the biggest drainer of battery life. So that being considered, your battery life isn't bad.
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but should that matter when im on wifi? and my s5 didnt have that problem with pretty much the same reception
iamloco724 said:
but should that matter when im on wifi? and my s5 didnt have that problem with pretty much the same reception
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It's going to be more efficient on Wifi. Low signal won't do much, but when it has to constantly search it drains fast.
Here's mine, had it since April 1st and the battery has been consistent.
Doesn't my held awake time seem high? It's higher then my screen on time all I did on the phone today was text, go on Facebook on and off and browse the Web a bit
iamloco724 said:
i feel like my battery is draining fast, i havnt done much today on the phone only a little over an hour of screen on time, and not sure if its normal but was at the movies and my phone was pretty warm in my pocket doing nothing
I have the same problem with my New M8 which I just bought 2 weeks ago.
My situation is the fully charged battery will drain out 20% of power after 6hours sleep. I am pretty sure I turned off all apps before going to bed.
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[email protected] said:
iamloco724 said:
i feel like my battery is draining fast, i havnt done much today on the phone only a little over an hour of screen on time, and not sure if its normal but was at the movies and my phone was pretty warm in my pocket doing nothing
I have the same problem with my New M8 which I just bought 2 weeks ago.
My situation is the fully charged battery will drain out 20% of power after 6hours sleep. I am pretty sure I turned off all apps before going to bed.
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Battery savings can be had by making sure the display brightness is set to auto. Tbh your battery drain looks normal. There's loads of stuff going on the background when WiFi is on. You can cut some of it down by turning WiFi off when you don't need it and going to your account settings and unchecking some of the sync items you don't need.
I find the battery life suprisingly good considering how long I have the screen on sometimes. I've had full days out of it with constant use . Normal use I'll get 2 days easy.
Also I find this the best battery monitor app. The easy to read timeline graph shows exactly when and where the drain is. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...edium=organic&utm_term=battery+monitor+widget
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ashyx said:
[email protected] said:
Battery savings can be had by making sure the display brightness is set to auto. Tbh your battery drain looks normal. There's loads of stuff going on the background when WiFi is on. You can cut some of it down by turning WiFi off when you don't need it and going to your account settings and unchecking some of the sync items you don't need.
I find the battery life suprisingly good considering how long I have the screen on sometimes. I've had full days out of it with constant use . Normal use I'll get 2 days easy.
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I keep brightness almost all the way down due to sensitive eyes, and I have nothing syncing
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iamloco724 said:
ashyx said:
I keep brightness almost all the way down due to sensitive eyes, and I have nothing syncing
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So you unchecked all the sync options for your Google account?
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ashyx said:
iamloco724 said:
So you unchecked all the sync options for your Google account?
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Yup
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Convert to GPE and install a custom kernel and you will get much better battery.
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I only get 3 hours tops of screen on time. Seems too little, from what I've been reading. I have wifi, mobile data and GPS always on and mostly use 4g since I don't have wifi at work. Is this normal?
Some GSam battery monitor screenshots :
http://forum.xda-developers.co...
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Cheers

Battery drain???

Is there a drain??
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May I ask why you suspect a drain, like how long does it last and also what's wrong with the built-in bat-stat?
My biggest recommendation is to avoid DL'n every single app and keep it to a minimum.
Mine last roughly 2days with a screen time of 3-4h without charging (was away a weekend recently and took my chances and left the charger at home, used the camera alot incl. 4k shooting and alot of music videos playing and made all the way home with 1 percent )
Best phone in terms of battery I've come across yet.
on the stock rom and kernel?
Hello, what's your android version and firmware build number? I would like to use it because i'm on 4.4.4 build 14.4.A.0.108 and I'm experiencing fast battery drain.
[SIC] said:
May I ask why you suspect a drain, like how long does it last and also what's wrong with the built-in bat-stat?
My biggest recommendation is to avoid DL'n every single app and keep it to a minimum.
Mine last roughly 2days with a screen time of 3-4h without charging (was away a weekend recently and took my chances and left the charger at home, used the camera alot incl. 4k shooting and alot of music videos playing and made all the way home with 1 percent )
Best phone in terms of battery I've come across yet.
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jserrano15 said:
I would like to use it because i'm on 4.4.4 build 14.4.A.0.108 and I'm experiencing fast battery drain.
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Changing ROM will not help in most cases if you won't discover what is eating battery.
I am on the same above ROM and kernel and I don't complain.
Term 'fast' is not much precise, either.
BTW:
1.3%/h is pretty reasonable if phone was in use from time to time.
Base rule with BBS is to check batery over night, when it is not used at all.
Under those circumstances you should see 0.1-03%/h and that is completely fine.
F308 said:
Changing ROM will not help in most cases if you won't discover what is eating battery.
I am on the same above ROM and kernel and I don't complain.
Term 'fast' is not much precise, either.
BTW:
1.3%/h is pretty reasonable if phone was in use from time to time.
Base rule with BBS is to check batery over night, when it is not used at all.
Under those circumstances you should see 0.1-03%/h and that is completely fine.
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how about dropping from 60% to 6% fast? that's my battery problem.
eumanoid said:
how about dropping from 60% to 6% fast? that's my battery problem.
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As always - check that all automatic synchronizations are off.
google, pictures, facebook, whatsapp.
Hope you don't use WiFi all the time, nor you scan for available networks.
BetterBatteryStats is really helpful, read corresponging thread.
F308 said:
As always - check that all automatic synchronizations are off.
google, pictures, facebook, whatsapp.
Hope you don't use WiFi all the time, nor you scan for available networks.
BetterBatteryStats is really helpful, read corresponging thread.
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i dont think using wifi and auto sync will drain my battery from 60% to 6% in just a second. Anyway, i ordered a replacement battery from witrigs. Hope this fixes my problem. Ive tried factory resets and repair through pc companion. still no improvement. Turning stamina mode improves my battery. It no longer drops 50% in a second, just 10%. Still way too low compared to my excellent battery life with kitkat. Before lollipop, i charge my phone every 2 days with heavy use. Now, i need to charge it twice a day with moderate use.
eumanoid said:
Still way too low compared to my excellent battery life with kitkat. Before lollipop, i charge my phone every 2 days with heavy use.
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If so - I'd come back to KK before replacing battery, if for no other reason then to prove LP is guilty.
BTW:
Long ago I decided not to upgrade to LP.
Looks like evey step ahead is in real life step back.
Everything is more complicated, wants more maintenance, yet works worse than old simple tools.
jserrano15 said:
Hello, what's your android version and firmware build number? I would like to use it because i'm on 4.4.4 build 14.4.A.0.108 and I'm experiencing fast battery drain.
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This with additional adblocker :angel:
And removed alot of bloatware and sony apps I don't need.

[Q] Software update?

Guys,
I just got the moto 360. The software currently is version: 4.4W.1 and Build: KGW42N.
Is this the latest update? if not, how can I get it the watch has not prompted any update.
Thanks
Currently the update coming is 4.4w2. It should be rolling out now. Just gotta be like us and wait it out lol. Still waiting here for me.
So is this the most recent update with the battery enhancing? Im confused. From the launch I believe there was one update where the battery life improved and now I hear a new one is coming out. Is mine without the first update?
mammothjojo88 said:
Currently the update coming is 4.4w2. It should be rolling out now. Just gotta be like us and wait it out lol. Still waiting here for me.
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taimur49 said:
So is this the most recent update with the battery enhancing? Im confused. From the launch I believe there was one update where the battery life improved and now I hear a new one is coming out. Is mine without the first update?
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You are running the same version as everyone else that has not received the update that is rolling out now
Isn't the build number suppose to end an a R, not an N? I just got the device too. My build number ends in N.
taimur49 said:
Guys,
I just got the moto 360. The software currently is version: 4.4W.1 and Build: KGW42N.
Is this the latest update? if not, how can I get it the watch has not prompted any update.
Thanks
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You should be on KGW42R. Try going to Settings>About>System Updates. You should have 80% or more battery to update.
This is the update rolling out now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56188498&postcount=1
Wiley_11 said:
You should be on KGW42R. Try going to Settings>About>System Updates. You should have 80% or more battery to update.
This is the update rolling out now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56188498&postcount=1
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Exactly.
I charged up to 100%, even tried reseting the watch once. It just says it's up to date. I'll post a pic.
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It is likely related to the new update that is slowly rolling out right now. In a day or two you should be prompted to update.
Steve-x said:
It is likely related to the new update that is slowly rolling out right now. In a day or two you should be prompted to update.
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I image you are right.
I hope so! also are any of you facing a charging issue? mine does not go passed 95% and drops back to 94 or 93%
taimur49 said:
I hope so! also are any of you facing a charging issue? mine does not go passed 95% and drops back to 94 or 93%
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Is the watch hot? I notice that this happens if the watch is a little hot. Just let it cool down and try charging again.
cards when dimmed screen
Does the 4.4w.2 update solve the "Hide cards on dimmed screen" issue on the Moto 360?
Thanks
The latest update has screwed my watch Battery life poor, doing all sorts of funny things with charging....
Just got the software update. I am now on 4.4W.2 (1.0.1.1526154) build number KNX01S. Is this the latest? Can i expect battery life to improve?
gsusx said:
The latest update has screwed my watch Battery life poor, doing all sorts of funny things with charging....
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My battery life improved. went from 13 1/2 hours use at 37% to nearly 18 1/2 hours use ending at 40% (this is without ambient mode on). With ambient mode, I went from about 6 1/5 hours use ending at 50% to nearly 10 hours use ending at 40%. This is all with moderate use (just checking text messages, weather, and looking at the time). No heavy use (games or navigation). Haven't had any charging issues either. An issues I had before but not so much after the update, was the watch randomly putting itself on silent. I would get a text and feel the buzz (I keep my phone on vibrate at work) and then about 2 hours later when I look down at my watch, i'll see that I missed a notification because it turned itself on silent.

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Amazed with the Battery life of Note5.
I did have power saver on for about 2/3 of the day.
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On pace for over 8 hours SOT. This phone is a beast!
I had a much better one two days ago, but I didn't get a screen shot.
I average well over a full work day with more than 7+ hours of SOT.
I don't use a dark theme, but it's not a bright theme either. No power save use ever. I use bluetooth and headphones to listen to music throughout the day. Plenty of web surfing and media related tasks. I don't play games.
I believe I get better battery performance following charging via wireless instead of the Rapid Charger. It's just been my overall experience so far.
here is mine, I wonder if reboots Often help?
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here is mine, I wonder if reboots Often help?
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Not happy with my battery life at all. Even used Package Disabler with little success.
Don't know why it says 6 hours of screen time, I get about 3 1/2 and do intermittent quick charges as it drops into the 60-70% range quick.
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knightblaze said:
Not happy with my battery life at all. Even used Package Disabler with little success.
Don't know why it says 6 hours of screen time, I get about 3 1/2 and do intermittent quick charges as it drops into the 60-70% range quick.
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There is something different or wrong, mines won't drop to 60% tell well the end of the day.
Rebooted after a few changes and waiting to see how it behaves, might need to factory reset. So far not impressed and over my return period (exchange for another note 5)
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Crazy battery life haven't charged yet
Over 2 days lol sot over 3 hours never got this on my previously Note 4 , just imagine if i was a hard user would get sot probably over 6hrs and instead of 2 days , 1 day for having more sot.
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
This version of the Note has me the most disappointed. I got less than 12 hours of use out of the phone, with it in ultra power saving mode for more that 50% of that time, just texting. I had my Note 4 with me as well, using that to listen to music, watch Netflix, and read on the Nook app, with wi-fi turned on but no cellular, bluetooth, or gps turned on, but I had over 50% battery left when the Note 5 died.
Battery life is great on this thing.
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My battery has been good but not great and I think I know why. For some reason my Android System always seems to be whats eating up the most battery so I took a look at the running apps and found the following. Doing a little research before I disable them. The one that stands out to me is the IQ Service Agent.. I hope that's not carrier IQ.. See Screenshot:
GameService
com.sec.android.app.smartClip
Context service
SmartcardService
tuiService
Remote Controls
Passpoint Settings
Device Test
IQ Agent Service
com.sec.phone
XavierD8188 said:
them. The one that stands out to me is the IQ Service Agent.. I hope that's not carrier IQ.. See Screenshot:
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AT&T never actually stopped using Carrier IQ. They were just doing a better job hiding it (or getting the phone manufacturer to bury it so deep that it's nearly impossible to remove.)
FML and I can't root my phone and get rid of it.. IT's causing my Android System to go nuts and always consume the most battery... This is disappointing.
garyd9 said:
AT&T never actually stopped using Carrier IQ. They were just doing a better job hiding it (or getting the phone manufacturer to bury it so deep that it's nearly impossible to remove.)
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Todays battery life awesome ??over a day then i went heavy, sot not bad at all, haven't charged yet.
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
Getting better everyday.
XavierD8188 said:
FML and I can't root my phone and get rid of it.. IT's causing my Android System to go nuts and always consume the most battery... This is disappointing.
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AT&T has a 14 day return policy. If you are still within it, why not return the phone and get something else?
Yeah I'm within the 14 day return policy but nothing on the market is better than the Note 5 in terms of overall package. Guess I'll just ride it out. I like the Note 5 a lot and I guess if I can get a full day of use that's good enough.. Plus Marshmallow should fix a lot of issues that plague Lollipop. Here's to hoping we actually see M before the Note 6 is released..
WizeGuyDezignz said:
AT&T has a 14 day return policy. If you are still within it, why not return the phone and get something else?
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XavierD8188 said:
Here's to hoping we actually see M before the Note 6 is released..
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Samsung isn't terrible when it comes to updating. Especially when you consider the amount of work involved in getting TW ported, and the high number of devices they have.
AT&T, on the other hand, might not accept that update from Samsung until 2017 or later.
I'm very serious when I say that if you keep this phone, accept it how it is today. Assume no bug fixes, no updates and no root. This way, you're prepared for one possible outcome and can only be pleasantly surprised.
(Yes, I'm having to do the same math. You can't imagine how hard it is for me to accept a phone with no root... but it's a good device...)
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