weird issue with texting apps - OnePlus 5T Questions & Answers

Okay, so it's been awhile since I had a new android phone but...I seem to have a weird problem with texting.
I've imported the contact list into the phone; whenever I text someone, their name shows up correctly. However, when they reply, it creates another thread from the same user. The same applies to group chats as well. I've attached a screenshot for clarity.
For example, if I text John Doe, it will create a thread for John Doe. If he replies, it will create another thread from John Doe. So my messaging app will show:
John Doe
John Doe
And if I create a group message, each time someone replies it will create a different thread. So it will look like:
Group Message
Group Message
Group Message
Group Message
John Doe
John Doe
I've tried a few different messaging apps (stock messaging app, QKSMS, silence), all the same thing. I'm running Hydrogen OS for now; not sure if it's a ROM issue or an app issue. It's not so bad if I'm just texting one user, because if I respond to their thread I can continue on with the conversation and it won't create a new thread. But group conversations are a pain. Any ideas?

Listerine said:
Okay, so it's been awhile since I had a new android phone but...I seem to have a weird problem with texting.
I've imported the contact list into the phone; whenever I text someone, their name shows up correctly. However, when they reply, it creates another thread from the same user. The same applies to group chats as well. I've attached a screenshot for clarity.
For example, if I text John Doe, it will create a thread for John Doe. If he replies, it will create another thread from John Doe. So my messaging app will show:
John Doe
John Doe
And if I create a group message, each time someone replies it will create a different thread. So it will look like:
Group Message
Group Message
Group Message
Group Message
John Doe
John Doe
I've tried a few different messaging apps (stock messaging app, QKSMS, silence), all the same thing. I'm running Hydrogen OS for now; not sure if it's a ROM issue or an app issue. It's not so bad if I'm just texting one user, because if I respond to their thread I can continue on with the conversation and it won't create a new thread. But group conversations are a pain. Any ideas?
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It might be a problem about country code and your carrier. For international carriers, they might add country codes in front of the messages when you receive them. When you are texting though, country codes might be unnecessary and not added. Thus it will be the same person with two numbers, one with the country code and one without.
Try adding country codes to all your contacts, after that your new texts should be under the same thread. I'm not sure about group chats though, I never used texts for group chats...

PSSF23 said:
It might be a problem about country code and your carrier. For international carriers, they might add country codes in front of the messages when you receive them. When you are texting though, country codes might be unnecessary and not added. Thus it will be the same person with two numbers, one with the country code and one without.
Try adding country codes to all your contacts, after that your new texts should be under the same thread. I'm not sure about group chats though, I never used texts for group chats...
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That's a very good idea, but I had tried that and it didn't work. In fact it made it worse because then the texting app didn't recognize the phone number as a contact anymore.

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Group Text messaging

hello, i often have to taxt 15 people the same message, does anyone know if i can group these together instead of inserting their names in one by one. thanks.
as far as I know, SMS can only be sent to one person at a time (hence Simple Messaging Service). I sell cell phones, and have asked my reps this question in the past; all of them gave me a resounding "no".
Group SMS, I'm sure there is something like that....
interestingfellow said:
as far as I know, SMS can only be sent to one person at a time (hence Simple Messaging Service). I sell cell phones, and have asked my reps this question in the past; all of them gave me a resounding "no".
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I believe what he means is multiple SMS receipents for the same message? There's a lot of mobile phones that can do that now.
If you go pocketgear or handago, i think there's quite a few selection you can choose from.
Regards.
thats what i meant,,, any ideas what the programes are called??. peter
If you just put several numbers, spaced out with ";", does that not work?
Cheers
thanks , yes that works but only for that time, i want to keep that group so every week i can just send to one group .. peter
can't you make a contact with that list as mobile phone number ? Not a nice solution, but it might work.
tried that, doesnt work for some reason , thanks anyway. peter
I tried saving a list as one number as described, even though I use semi-colon as seperator it appears as one long number when calling it from contacts, it does however work that one time when entered manually with seperator.
One way is to use Contacts to create a category for the group of numbers, then add the numbers you want as contacts within that category.
Then select that category in Contacts, select all, tap and hold, then select Send SMS. This puts all the numbers in the 'To:' field separated by ';' I haven't tried actually sending an SMS like this so I don't know if it will work.
If it does, then hopefully it will fill in the numbers from the Contacts category correctly each time.
Has anybody tried this yet?
I have tried, it but even if you insert the ";" and a space when you press send SMS it transfers the number without the ";" and space so its just one long number in my case 15 x 11 = 165 :x
dcs said:
One way is to use Contacts to create a category for the group of numbers, then add the numbers you want as contacts within that category.
Then select that category in Contacts, select all, tap and hold, then select Send SMS. This puts all the numbers in the 'To:' field separated by ';' I haven't tried actually sending an SMS like this so I don't know if it will work.
If it does, then hopefully it will fill in the numbers from the Contacts category correctly each time.
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I use this method often and it works. The only bad thing is that I have to tick every single contact in the category.
no matter what trick to use with Contacts it will be limited to 15 names only ... try search for "sendSMS" free s/w ... it does the job nicely with retrying for failed messages ... it supports also flash SMSs
saving all the numbers in contacts with a ";" and a space did work . i tried it yesterday several times but nothing happened, this morning they all came through :roll: they must have got lost in cyber space somewhere.
thanks for every ones help and sugestions . :lol:

Group Texting

Is this only working when everyone uses Windows Phones?
Tried it today and the conversations weren't threaded at all. It basically put my outgoing in one thread and replies from people all in their own threads. It was impossible to follow the conversation.
Has anyone tried it?
Yes it have it set to use MMS for group texting and all the devices I was texting were Android and iPhone devices.
Edit: and yea, I'm 100% sure it wasn't using different protocols for different people, since they were sitting next to me when I tested it...
Also, replies from others in the group were only coming to me, which made it impossible for anyone else to follow the conversation.
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N8ter said:
Is this only working when everyone uses Windows Phones?
Tried it today and the conversations weren't threaded at all. It basically put my outgoing in one thread and replies from people all in their own threads. It was impossible to follow the conversation.
Has anyone tried it?
Yes it have it set to use MMS for group texting and all the devices I was texting were Android and iPhone devices.
Edit: and yea, I'm 100% sure it wasn't using different protocols for different people, since they were sitting next to me when I tested it...
Also, replies from others in the group were only coming to me, which made it impossible for anyone else to follow the conversation.
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Did any of the iPhones have iMessage enabled? I know it reverts to SMS if the recipient does not support iMessage. I suspect for Group messaging, it will revert to MMS. I am wondering if there may be an issue if some are MMS and others are iMessage.
Also, with iPhone's the numbers of all recipients are visible to all recipients.
http://www.moxiemoshow.com/group-messaging-iphone/
When you sent messages to the group, were all numbers visible to all recipients?
I am wondering if Mango implemented group text messaging in a way that does not expose the numbers of all recipients. If the numbers for all recipients are not visible to all recipients, then Windows Phone 7 and the iPhone don't implement it the same. So, on one of your friends phones, check to see if all numbers are visible for messages you sent. Since their replies only went to you, I suspect they are not receiving the numbers of all recipients.
I don't know how Android implements Group messaging. Since you didn't say any of your friends had issues, I am guessing it is the same way the iPhone does it. This probably means that iMessage isn't a factor.
Unfortunately, I cannot test this because I ported the number for my LG Quantum to Google Voice to use on my iPhone that work pays for. At some point, I will be getting a prepaid SIM to put in my Quantum so that I can test things, but I have not done so yet.
All I could see on the vibrant was that I got a message from myself. Nothing about other numbers. Biggest reason I wanted to do this is so that I can cc myself in every thread I start, giving me the ability to respond transparently from any of my devices.
Was traveling for 12 hours and people got confused when I swapped devices (and.sometimes I plain.just don't feel like switching off what I'm using at that moment). Don't think I message was the issue, since the android phones aren't working either.
I knowbiys sending an mms cause.I can see the empty subject field on all of the devices.
Maybe it only works for instant.messages?
This keyboard has the worse Autocorrect ever.
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There are lots of legitimate shortcomings of this wonderful platform, this is not one of them.
I mass-text enough. And I have never expected their responses to show up in the mass text field. How on earth would that be engineered?
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There are lots of legitimate shortcomings of this wonderful platform, this is not one of them.
I mass-text enough. And I have never expected their responses to show up in the mass text field. How on earth would that be engineered?
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Although i haven't used the group texting, i wouldn't expect it either to do what i think he is thinking it would do.
Windows Phone keeps history on all your contacts and what each contact has said under that contact. It's not a forum with all of your users joining a thread and posting for all to see. It would make sense that the response to your text came from just that person. It's not designed to let everyone see the response, only the response coming from that person to you. If it allowed more than it would be group instant messaging or group chat. That is not what it is.
Also... isn't what you are trying to do, what email is for? would make more sense.
sure haven't said:
There are lots of legitimate shortcomings of this wonderful platform, this is not one of them.
I mass-text enough. And I have never expected their responses to show up in the mass text field. How on earth would that be engineered?
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Funny thing. The OP posted about this in another thread stating that Android doesn't support group messaging. Somehow it became a Windows Phone 7 issue.
In any case the mods removed that post for other reasons and disabled his account. I only saw the post in an email, because I get emails of all posts to the thread he posted in. When I actually went to the thread it was all cleaned up. Since this is the 2nd disabling in a short period of time, it may be permanent.
iPhone does implent group sms so that when iPhone users text each other using group SMS, it effectivey is like a chat room. Responses go to all recipients. All recipients receive the phone numbers of all recipients which allows reply to send responses to all recipients.
I am not sure if Windows Phone 7 group SMS does something similar to this when all phones are Windows Phone 7. To me this feature is primarly useful for event organizers, such as the captain of my softball team that sends things out to all of us, such as weather updates or asking if we know of anyone that can sub. Not as much for a big chat.
I don't have an active SIM for my LG Quantum, so I can't test it.
I have always thought of group texting as more of a way to send for example a merry xmas to all your friends (like 80 or so) in one clip. You don't want all your friends getting all 80 responses (that may kill someones text plan if they have limited)
Interesing that the iphone does that. you would think it wouldn't due to the above issue or to use a different transport.
ROCOAFZ said:
I have always thought of group texting as more of a way to send for example a merry xmas to all your friends (like 80 or so) in one clip. You don't want all your friends getting all 80 responses (that may kill someones text plan if they have limited)
Interesing that the iphone does that. you would think it wouldn't due to the above issue or to use a different transport.
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On the iPhone,
It doesn't send 80 messages to each recipient. It just includes all 80 phone numbers with the message.
But, if they reply, it will reply to all 80.
Somehow the replies from iPhones doing this only count as 1 message though.
JVH3 said:
On the iPhone,
It doesn't send 80 messages to each recipient. It just includes all 80 phone numbers with the message.
But, if they reply, it will reply to all 80.
Somehow the replies from iPhones doing this only count as 1 message though.
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yeah i meant on the reply. hmm interesting ... maybe they included it in there plan... actually can you get limited messaging on an iphone plan? Maybe that is why?
ROCOAFZ said:
yeah i meant on the reply. hmm interesting ... maybe they included it in there plan... actually can you get limited messaging on an iphone plan? Maybe that is why?
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I think it is because group messing is actually MMS, not SMS.
This blog explains it well. http://shawnblanc.net/2010/12/iphone-group-messaging/
So, it uploads the message once.
Also, iPhone users have the free benefit of iMessage which gives unlimited messaging regardless of carrier between all iPhone OS 5 users. This also applies to iTouch and iPads.
So, on AT&T with my iPhone, I can message and iPhone on Verizon and Sprint for no charge. And to us it seems no different than SMS, except the background color is blue instead of green.
I turned group text off the minute I found out what it was I have a feeling most people don't know what they are actually doing when they use it. Whenever one goes out, I always end up with a bunch of unnecessary texts from people I don't even know.

Where is group messaging???

This feels like such a noob question but I'm at a loss. I know group messaging has been baked into the latest release but it doesn't seem to be working right.
I have the group messaging option turned on in my settings and I can send a group text just fine. But when I receive a group message it looks like a normal text message. I can't see who the other recipients are and so I can't respond to anyone but the person who sent that text.
I've noticed the same thing on several different S3 phones running 4.3 so I feel like either I am doing something wrong or "group messaging" doesn't work the way I expect it to. Are we only able to send group texts but not receive them? What gives?
Thanks.
Anyone??
uscpsycho said:
Anyone??
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I have the Verizon version of the S3, so I'm not sure if they behave the same. I went into my messing app, hit the menu to get settings and have the option for "Group Conversations" "Send messages as group conversations by default" checked...mine works just fine. When I get a group text, I have an option to switch it from MMS to SMS and have it be an individual text.

Stock text messaging app bug found

For the past week I have had issues trying to send my sister a text message. It has come to my attention that when I sent her a text message it for some reason gets sent to my nephew who participated in a separate text message that consisted of more than one party; In other words a group text message.
I have found LG Mobile on Facebook and informed them of this:
I solved the issue with the text messaging application bug. It is a bug in fact.
When the LG G5 has multiple group text messages with individuals, who you also try to have an individual text message conversation with, the phone will default a newly-created non-group message back to a/or one of the many group text messages that already exists with the person or other persons you're trying or NOT trying to communicate with individually.. I had to delete all group messages with the other party and then the phone stopped sending individual messages to a group message that they previously belonged to. This needs to be reported to your LG or Google development team as soon as possible. I am quite sure other people will have the same issue.
Interesting. I dont send alot of group messages from the G5. I will keep my eye on this.
BTW, while you have them fixing that...tell them to re-add the ability to have individual themes in our stock message app. I like having different backgorunds per contact
Any update on this ?
HAs anyone had the issue where contact names don't show in messaging, only numbers? I've had the phone almost 2 weeks and it's happened several times.
mikeyinid said:
HAs anyone had the issue where contact names don't show in messaging, only numbers? I've had the phone almost 2 weeks and it's happened several times.
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Contacts backed up to Google?
mikeyinid said:
HAs anyone had the issue where contact names don't show in messaging, only numbers? I've had the phone almost 2 weeks and it's happened several times.
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I had this issue and once I opened the contact t from the messaging app they all popped back in. But yes I know exactly what you are saying.
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shaun0207 said:
Any update on this ?
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Nope. Mine still crashes now and then. Especially after using the voice to text feature.
Who knows maybe I have a bad LG keyboard system app. I'm going to root my phone soon and consequently have to reflash an entire rooted ROM so hopefully the new rooted ROM will have a better version will see.
UPDATE
My wife and I both updated our G5s to ROM v10d and so far the keyboard crashing has disappeared.

What text app for group threads

I'm running stock Oreo 8.0.0 on Samsung S9 using the bundled texting app.
When I receive group texts from an iPhone user, I only see myself as a recipient; the other recipients aren't listed.
Also when I reply to what I happen to know is a group text, my reply only goes to the sender rather than to the group members.
Is there a setting I'm missing or do I need to use a different text messaging app?
I use the default messaging app on my stock S9 (VZW) and I don't have this problem. Half my family use Android-based phones and the others use iPhones. Our group conversation work just fine. However, all of the group conversation I am involved in include people already in my contacts. I'm wondering if your missing recipients is related to who is in your contacts?
ScratchyPDX said:
I'm wondering if your missing recipients is related to who is in your contacts?
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Nope, the problem shows up even with those in my contact list.
Maybe I'll try a random texting app and see what happens.
Other apps exhibit the same problem. Anyone have any insight into this problem?

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