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Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
Mi5 has better camera for video (thanks to OIS) than Mi5s, otherwise they are very similar. Mi5 is longer out and thus has more chances for a custom rom. It does look like there will be some CM support (or whatever it is now called) for the Mi5s, there is one build here in the forum.
No idea about the 5s Plus.
Memory management is hard to say, but Android loves to have ram, so in general it's better to have more than less. Then again, this really depends on the ROM too.
domsch1988 said:
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
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If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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nelnel002 said:
If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
I'm with @dabyd64.
Mi5s has better construction than Mi5 (Aluminum vs Ceramic).
Mi5s is a little heavier (around 15g) and around 1mm bigger at 3 axis (difficult to tell a diference side by side).
Mi5s and Google Pixel have the same camera sensor, one of best as today.
Mi5s take better photos and regarding video Mi5s have EIS (at 1080) that is working better than Mi5 with OIS.
It could be better if Xiaomi invest on image processing algoritm like google did on pixel mobile.
Right now, Mi5 has better comunity support because was released first, more users, and kernel sources already released by Xiaomi.
I doubt Mi5s will have better support than Mi5, but i'm pretty sure we get the major roms.
Mi5 has infrared and could work as a remote control, this is the unique feature loss on Mi5s.
For me, Mi5s all the way. I would avoid Mi5s plus, if you really want a proper dual camera implementation -> Huawei P9.
We have to understand that a dual camera solution is all about image processing. For me, Xiaomi implementation was a failure.
If you need 5.5" screen size i would go for oneplus 3t.
Mi Note 2 has an oled 5.7" curved screen with te same 1080 resolution, so lower pixel density.
I really hate curved screens, and it's a pain to protect those devices.
It has a bigger battery, but generally bigger screen more consume, on the other hand oled consume less than lcd, you have to analyse sot.
200€ more relatively to 300€ it's significative, i would say put 200€ aside for a new one later on.
Not OP, but I would like to say thanks to @BPSoft and the other people who answered this question, as I'm in the same boat right now. Want to upgrade from my Mi4, and considering Mi5 and Mi5s. But the price is too close.
Do you think it is worth waiting for Mi5s price to drop a little bit more before buying? I am not very keen on using it with MIUI8 (jury's out for future MIUI 9), so I would be waiting for a custom ROM (CM, AOSP, ...). What do you think?
Custom, somewhat stable, ROM could be a way off for the Mi 5s, as the kernel source hasn't been released yet. At least there is a global rom now for the Mi 5s, but I'm not sure if that can be bought preinstalled. Not a big thing, but maybe waiting one more week (until CES is over) might mean a tiny bit lower prices.
Mi5s is at its lowest price ever, though (about 265€ for me). So many decisions... but I think i'll go for it.
Even if not preinstalled you can always unlock bootloader and install the global ROM, corect?
This is correct. Actually, if you run the official China build, you can simply download the Recovery Rom to the phone, open the Updater app, select the rom and it will flash it. No unlock needed. Works also with some, but not all, "shop roms" (globalized non official builds).
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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Currently the axon 7 is an option too.
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For a 5.5" screen size, i prefer Oneplus 3T, huge support here at XDA, 6GB Ram, SD821 instead of SD820, 64/128GB internal space, but without sd card support.
See here for a comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
Regarding photo quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
As you can see 20Mpx says nothing about picture quality :cyclops:
domsch1988 said:
But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm more optimistic, i expect "Mi6" release at March, like it was with Mi5. SD835 is expected. If i could, i would wait!
dabyd64 said:
Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
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So it depends if you want OIS or faster capture. For my opinion cm development to mi5s Will take some time, soon we will have the mi6, so that's always the same thing , when we have some development there's another upgraded device that came out. We'll stay stock whit MIUI .
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domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I have axon 7 too and it's my daily driver, that's another league. QHD AMOLED,3250mah battery, not stock but almost whit some nice features, stereo speakers whit Dolby Atmos, nice camera I would say a little better than op3. nice materials and naugat to the end of January.
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What I really liked is the screen / size ratio, I think it's one of the 'smaller' phones which still has really good specs, decent screen and of course dual sim.
domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm going to do the exact same, wait for SD835 and if i don't think it's worth it ill buy a cheaper mi5s
I've had the pixel XL since launch and I absolutely love it. On the other hand, I bought my wife an honor 8 and that phone is incredible. Has so many awesome features baked right in to the OS, just as fast(maybe just as fast, haven't tested it extensively) and it's half the cost of the pixel.
I'm torn on whether I should sell my XL and buy the honor 8 and keep about $400 or just stay with the pixel..
Anyone have an honor 8 that can help me out? Is it worth it?
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I've had the pixel XL since launch and I absolutely love it. On the other hand, I bought my wife an honor 8 and that phone is incredible. Has so many awesome features baked right in to the OS, just as fast(maybe just as fast, haven't tested it extensively) and it's half the cost of the pixel.
I'm torn on whether I should sell my XL and buy the honor 8 and keep about $400 or just stay with the pixel..
Anyone have an honor 8 that can help me out? Is it worth it?
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I have both, depends on what's important to you. The software & updates are the big bonus of the Pixel. The camera on the Pixel is a lot better in point and shoot, but the Honor has some great manual option.
If / When we get a working CM/LineAgeOS for the Honor 8 then it's a totally different conversation, but by that time what phones will be on the market? I think if the Pixel had a better design then nobody would be asking this question. The Pixel is a Stealth fighter in a Zeppelin frame!
Hi All!,
I am a current OnePlus 3t user, and it's a great phone. I was looking to get a new phone for 2 main reasons:
The space on the OnePlus I have is limitted to 64 Gb, I am running out.
With the new Snapdragon 835 out, I thought I'd look for a phone with that if I were to upgrade.
So I thought I'd check out the OnePlus 5, however the price of it put me off. Having done some research, I really like the look of the Xiaomi Mi 6. However there are a few things that are still making me reconsider:
The reviews I have seen have commented the software is buggy. It crashes and stops working at times. The software on the OnePlus 3T just works. I've not had any problems. If I get the Mi6, will it be a case of buying a buggy phone?
Also with the software, I've never used MiUi, and personally I like the simplicity and near stock Android on the OnePlus. How big of a change is the MiUi and is it customisable?
Does the Mi6 have the ability to capture RAW images?
Thanks in advance! :good:
I migrated quickly to Xiaomi.EU ROM when I purchased Mi6, although I didn't have any problem with (fake) supplied ROM.
I've used my mom's 3T for quite a bit, and the stock Android feel of OxygenOS and frequent and fast update from OnePlus is the big... plus.
MIUI, on the other hand, has very bad notification handling. It feels like you're using Android 4.2/4.4 something. You can't swipe left/right on the lockscreen notifications to make them go away, nor you can't expand it nicely like in pure android (You can do it on notification shade however, using 2 fingers, but the experience just sucks). I tried floatify to emulate the notification in stock android, but it's not enough.
MIUI for Mi6 hasn't provided RAW capture capability AFAIK.
OnePlus 5 has released their kernel source, so dev can easily start working custom ROM on that. But Xiaomi has been notorious keeping the kernel source for a long time (about 6 months+ on previous flagship), that makes the non-MIUI based ROM harder to develop.
I'm currently trying to get LineageOS installed on my Mi6, I'll post more on that LineageOS thread maybe tomorrow evening or the day after.
There is always some plus and minus. I’ve been using Xiaomi 5 Pro and I’m very happy {:m034:}
I used to have One+1 and One+3. Both were great phones.
With perfect Quality/Price factor. Even with EU prices:-/
Now I had been waiting for One+5 and all-around I’m very disappointed wit it.
Reason?
USB 2, No OIS, Software AND Price for EU!!!
It’s not the Flagship killer anymore, it starts to be exclusive peace of equipment.
My main decision point (quality/price factor) dropped down rapidly.
I really prefer MIUI in comparison to Cyanogen (1+1) or OxygenOS (1+3).
With weekly Globe-Roms upgrade (http://mi-globe.com) I’m really satisfied. Mi 5 works very smooth.
OK., it’s with open boot loader and rooted, but all my phoned have been same way in the past
(and will be in future )
I do not remember what I used in the first case, but in 1+3, I changed it to Resurrection Remix ROM.
I agree that all Oneplus society forum support is great. Same with software developers.
I hope that here in MIUI world it will be the same soon.
Especially that after all comparisons of my own, I decided to order Mi 6, 6/128 one.
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Without any doubt the mi6, and specially if you can buy it at 369USD in some aliexpress offers.
I just Got the Mi 6 pro. Fresh in my hand. It looks great, and feels excellent. It's running very smooth at the moment but hey, is brand new.
I have my 3t on hand.
I think most of the comments are correct. One plus updates quick esp of your on the beta stream, it's smooth and you don't have to deal with MIUI overlay - the OnePlus launcher is excellent.
The Mi 6 is very emotional - what the 3T has and the 5 does not.
Practically, get the 5....you know what to expect. The Mi6 feels great though.....!
I have to edit this: having had the phone for a week - the Mi6 is the smoothest, fastest phone in town right now, period, including the S8 Plus. It's very slick indeed, very, very quick, had an excellent camera and great Sound.
It's very difficult to put the Mi6 down and pick up any of the other phones.
jlmcr87 said:
Without any doubt the mi6, and specially if you can buy it at 369USD in some aliexpress offers.
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Where I can find this offer?
maak22 said:
Where I can find this offer?
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It's gone. That was the 28 June sale on a couple of sellers. I bought mine then, still waiting for it to be posted...
On the same boat. I have been reading about the touchscreen delay problems,bluetooth connectivity and some other bugs and i am hesitant to do the leap of faith on mi6.
One plus 5 on the other hand has such community and gets so many updates that you are sure that software problems will be fixed as soon as possible.
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On the same boat. I have been reading about the touchscreen delay problems,bluetooth connectivity and some other bugs and i am hesitant to do the leap of faith on mi6.
One plus 5 on the other hand has such community and gets so many updates that you are sure that software problems will be fixed as soon as possible.
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If you find bugs on MI 6,you can tell the developers of Xiaomi to fix them.
I got both the op5 and Mi6, the op5 has an real deal-breaker with the "jelly screen" design flaw. As for now there is no fix and oneplus says its "natural". So the Mi6 is an better choice for me.
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If you find bugs on MI 6,you can tell the developers of Xiaomi to fix them.
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i recon that bluetooth bugs have existed with the launch and they are yet to get a 'fix'.
Updates for global seem non existant but on the other hand thats what you get for the mi series. Xiaomi is pretty great for international devices, mainly speaking about the redmi series. Rest seem to be left untouched(Mi mix,note 2, mi5 s etc).
I am gonna hold myself from buying this yet.
Hi
I go next week to China and plan to buy a new smartphone. I'm a big fan of Xiaomi and would love to buy a Mi Mix 2, but I worry about the camera quality. The OnePlus 5T would be the other option. Which phone would you buy if the camera is quite important for you?
Regards
Michael
If camera were important I would buy either a Galaxy S8 or an Iphone 8. Both Mi Mix 2 and Oneplus 5T cameras underperform in low light condition. I prefer the Mix 2 design over Oneplus 5T's one. However, there is more ROM development for the Oneplus 5T.
mate 10 pro is $799 but also free $150 gift card
better camera than oneplus 5t
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I think this is a price thing, if you don't care about the money you can choose the "little" better huawei...
but if you are not keen on amoled screens, I think the mate 10 without pro is the better choice.
Buy the 5T not because someone on XDA in the 5T forum says so but because Huawei is a really crappy company! Huawei already abandoned the Honor 8 that came out last year with great specs, they said in can't handle Oreo which is a blatant lie! They would rather sell you a new phone which I'm sure a lot would rather do but geez have some class!
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Buy the 5T not because someone on XDA in the 5T forum says so but because Huawei is a really crappy company! Huawei already abandoned the Honor 8 that came out last year with great specs, they said in can't handle Oreo which is a blatant lie! They would rather sell you a new phone which I'm sure a lot would rather do but geez have some class!
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While I don't disagree, your reasoning isn't exactly fair. Honor is a budget brand and similarly priced devices released around the same time also do not have Oreo
Not that the Honor 8 didn't get Oreo yet, it's NOT getting it! Huawei said the Honor 8 can't handle Oreo basically which is a lie. The Honor 8 has better specs than several phones running 8.0, and its not a budget handset by any measure.
I was in the same dilemma
the camera I'd say is better on the OnePlus 5t simply because it is smarter what I mean that there isn't auto hdr on the mate yes the hardware is better and more reliable on the mate but I just hate EMIUI
the selfie on the mate is a complete garbage on of the worst the oneplus's selfie is better
the software experience on the oneplus is far better which is the most important thing to me
the EMIUI is like 2 years old with the same crappiness which I can't live with
the htc 10 which was launched in 2016 along with 3/3t and galaxy s7 all are tipped to get oreo update unlike huawei
also the development community in the huawei is very weak so you can't even depend on that after official support ends
camera on the mate 10 isnt great. more oil paintings, bit like the 5T.
battery will be better though, updates about the sames as 5t and if you're in the uk can can get the mate 10 pro from carphone warehouse for £529 at the mo!
I like the specs of Huawei / Honor phones, but hate their EMIUI. Had one phone with it and it was just so horrible ugly and bloated.
Almost pure Android is much better.
Well... If you are willing to pay $800+ I'd suggest you to wait for Samsung S9. Huawei appeared out of nowhere and started selling phones for the high price just because specs are good on a paper. I personally have OnePlus 5T 8gig variant and I am satisfied with what I got for under $600. I can't say if camera is better or worse than Huawei mate 10 Pro but 5T does the job for me and higher mpx dont always mean better camera. Buy 5T and I am sure you wont regret but it is always your personal choice. We can tell you anything here.
pk-air said:
Well... If you are willing to pay $800+ I'd suggest you to wait for Samsung S9. Huawei appeared out of nowhere and started selling phones for the high price just because specs are good on a paper. I personally have OnePlus 5T 8gig variant and I am satisfied with what I got for under $600. I can't say if camera is better or worse than Huawei mate 10 Pro but 5T does the job for me and higher mpx dont always mean better camera. Buy 5T and I am sure you wont regret but it is always your personal choice. We can tell you anything here.
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without $150 gift card I won't think about huawei,btw just order 8gb 5t will get it tomorrow. I had oneplus one for 3 years,love oneplus.[emoji4]
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ive had both
cant go wrong with either both are good
if you are keen on development then get the oneplus 5T as the mate 10 pro is a pain in the royal behind to download and flash things
I've had most Android devices. I go through them like water. The mate 10 pro was great hardware, but software made it unbearable for me. I've been using my red OP 5t for a few weeks now. I really love it especially with the Oreo update and gestures. I'm gonna stick with it as my DD until the S9+
After reading this thread im going to have nightmares about update.apps and software install failed. I will never spend another penny on a Huawei product....most finicky devices known to man.
Oh yea, get the 5T :good: