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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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I somewhat am afraid of this also. I don't mind that LG is making this panel but I do mind if it looks like this.
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It will definitely be tested ASAP. If the panels reveal the same issues, we will know about it with the quickness.
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It's going to have the same issues because it's the same screen. Don't expect otherwise.
I wonder if it's the same screen. The V30 display is HDR, 109% DCI-P3, 148% sRGB. The Pixel 2 XL has no mention of HDR and 100% DCI-P3.
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I wonder if it's the same screen. The V30 display is HDR, 109% DCI-P3, 148% sRGB. The Pixel 2 XL has no mention of HDR and 100% DCI-P3.
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It's gonna be the same. They aren't manufacturing different panels for the v30 and xl2.
Just in case, what is the out of the box test procedure to fully inspect screen for quality or defects?
How many complaints have there been? I've only seen the screenshot posted in the OP, which was posted by ARS technica if I'm not mistaken. I also remember David over at Androidpolice mentioning it when the brightness is set to minimum on one Pixel 2 XL unit. Unless we start getting reviews this isn't a widespread issue. Only two units have been confirmed so far, so no need to worry.
Not to mention, LG isn't the only one that has this issue, some s7 and s8 phones have this issue too:
http://i.imgur.com/XmS7SVh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fusYikY.jpg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3678570&d=1457658022
Does anyone k ow how bright the screen is supposed to be in nitts?
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Does anyone k ow how bright the screen is supposed to be in nitts?
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Not known yet, have to wait for the reviews. V30 reviews might eventually shed light on this if they are released before any Pixel 2 XL reviews.
The screen is 100% DPI-P3. It says it on their website.
Anyone go to Verizon store to check the phone out?
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I wonder this myself. I guess I can stop by Verizon after work tomorrow and have a look. It's hard to see uniformity problems in the brightly-lit store environment though, these sorts of issues are best seen in darkness or a dimly lit room.
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Anyone go to Verizon store to check the phone out?
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I went out to the Verizon store today and was profoundly underwhelmed by the XL 2 display.
First, it had a huge black band in the middle. Apparently it's not the only unit with this problem, someone on reddit posted the same issue I saw on my demo unit (https://imgur.com/a/CbfIH)
Second, colors were very dull and the whole screen had a hideous blue tint. I was instantly turned off by it. I've seen many many many displays through the years. Many phones have just fine displays, other's great (og Pixel XL, Galaxy S8...), but this Pixel XL 2 I saw was simply bad. Real bad for a $800+ device. I'm sort of hoping it was just this unit, but I've seen many reports already in reddit that are complaining about the same thing.
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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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I'm pretty sure LG isn't reserving the "good" panels for the Pixel 2/XL. They are both getting the same screen. POLED screens from earlier LG phones have had the same issues. If it's something you obsess over, you will see it. If you don't go hunting for it, you won't.
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I'm pretty sure LG isn't reserving the "good" panels for the Pixel 2/XL. They are both getting the same screen. POLED screens from earlier LG phones have had the same issues. If it's something you obsess over, you will see it. If you don't go hunting for it, you won't.
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But to have this issue on a 1k$ phone... Unacceptable
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Questionable screen is a show stopper for me. The xl screen is great. Thought I had a dead spot but reboot fixed. I liked 6p screen size. While a big phone much easier for old eyes. Thought $410 trade was good reason to switch to 2 xl same size as 6p but having second thoughts now.
Would like to hear more about the plastic oled tech. Anyone have link to a good lg thread on the screen?
Just checked xl2 out at verizon. My impression is that it feels good in hand. Buttons tactile dont like volume buttons are one unit tho. I like the texure of the body. Screen looks fine but the color seems too much black. Too much black in all color. I still see this oled color shifting in some viewing angle. Stereo speakers seems not that loud not much bass either.
Oh the vibration feels good like samsung kinda.
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But to have this issue on a 1k$ phone... Unacceptable
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I don't disagree. So is having 4GB of RAM on a 1k phone. It's the technology they chose to have the squeeze gimmick. It's not like LG is reserving the good POLED screens for the Pixel 2 was my main point. It's also really hard to notice unless the screen is dimmed in my experience. Not making excuses, though.
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The possible screen "issue" is when the phone brightness is turned all the way down correct? If so...non issue for me. I can probably count the length of the minutes on one hand of the time I've had the brightness turned all the way down the past few years.
I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !
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I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !
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This is what i'm thinking of doing too. Might be worth buying one to test for yourself and send it back if you don't like the 5T? It'll be interesting to read others users thoughts on this.
Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Hey I love the 5T...the Pixel XL is junk, well, at least the screen is. It has issues no doubt. 5T screen is better IMO. Camera, obviously not as good. Neither has an external SD Card?!?!?! Why!!!!!
Anyway, for the money, 5T is hard to beat honestly. Dev support is descent, but not like HTC or Pixel/Google phones.
I had an S8+ for 1 day. Of course, since you can't root without breaking everything like Android pay and Safety Net...no thanks. The S8+ is a near perfect phone, but their abillity to allow you to unlock the bootloader and customize...is nonexistent. Got rid of it. I'm in the US, so the exynos won't work in this country which does allow bootloader unlocking...ridiculous.
I've been an HTC fan for 8yrs now. Just sold my HTC 10. The camera on this OnePlus 5 is better than anything HTC has produced ever. The camera isn't that bad. The OnePlus takes photos as good as my daughter's iPhone 7 Plus. And that camera is no slouch. In fact, head to head, my photos are often better with the 5T.
Anyway...I can imagine the 6 and 6T are going to be a pretty nice. Snapdragon 845 already confirmed for the 6 in a few months they claim it will be released.
Otherwise, I'm not personally dropping $800+ on a new phone no matter who makes it. Which rules Pixel, Huawei, Samsung whatever, and Def iPhone garbage out of the picture. I never spent more than $500-600 on any phone the last 8yrs. HTC resell is pretty good, plus I would wait about 4-6 months after their premier release version to buy it and it is discounted.
Also, my HTC 10 charge port started smelling like burning plaster and wouldn't charge. I had to send it back, and it could take 4 months for them to "evaluate" the burning in Taiwan, then send it back to Seattle, where they say they might not even replace it. They just want to examine it. It is under their uh-oh warranty...so don't know WTF they even care what has happened to it, they will give almost anybody a replacement phone.
Oh well...saw further below that you got the 5T and are keeping it. Version 6 will be out by end of March...so, take it from there. So far, really like the OnePlus...just wish it had a slightly better camera and an SDCard slot.
I was using a Pixel XL for a year and pre-ordered the Pixel 2 XL on launch day.
I got my Pixel 2 XL on October 18th and used it for 2 weeks and there were a lot of good things about it that I liked. It only had a few issues that I could not overlook:
The screen was of poor quality. I'm not talking about unsaturated looking, either. It had harsh blue shift that was impossible not to see in normal day-to-day usage. It also had very poor picture quality when used in a dark room at low brightness. Like everything was too dark yet bright parts of pictures were very bright. Like the contrast of the screen was junk. This was also apparent when viewing pictures at full brightness, but only if I held up my Pixel XL next to it and compared the two. Again, very apparent at low brightness, not as much at normal brightness. Since I like to use my phone at night in the dark, this was a huge pain point. I had no burn-in or noticeable grain in the screen. I was worried moving from a Pixel XL with a quality Samsung panel to a Pixel 2 XL with a questionable LG panel would be a problem, and I was 100% correct.
The battery charging speed. This was something that the Pixel XL wasn't very good at, and I couldn't even get 1% per minute. The Pixel 2 XL was in the same boat, slow charging. Even slower than my old S7 Edge with a larger battery!
These two things were just too much to accept with a $950 device. I returned it to Google for a full refund. Bought the 5T 128GB model on launch day and received it on Black Friday. The 5T has a good screen (like the Pixel XL) and the fastest possible charging option. I also saved like $400 buying the 5T so I got a PS 4 Pro with the extra cash. It's been the best decision I've made since buying the original Pixel XL which was a great phone.
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Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Do you have some camera samples from your S8+ that you could replicate with the 5T and share them with us ?
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Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Same here !
At first I got OnePlus 5T.. in this phone everything was great, except for camera. Camera is a complete disaster - I do not know how people can be taking decent pictures without optical image stabilization. In my case when you look carefully at edges - there was a blur. Tried many camera softwares - the phone simply can't take good pics without OIS. Based on rumors, OnePlus 6 doesn't intend to include OIS in the camera either. Which is sad, as camera modules are about $15 a piece.. likely OIS would be a few dollars more. So, in summary:
OnePlus 5T:
Pros:
- Everything about the phone, screen, performance, development community
Annoyances (not a deal breaker)
- Separate switch on the side of Do not Disturb, Silent, Loud mode. Why on earth this can't be done via volume keys (Mute -> Vibrate -> Loud) and perhaps few other modes?
- Fingerprint reader., especially in the middle of the screen. Mobile device makers are attempting to convince us that bio-metrics are safe, while even US government wasn't able to prevent breach of biometric data of its own employees..
- Mobile camera in the corner, not in the middle of the back panel - in place of a fingerprint. Sometimes camera is obstructed by fingers, perhaps it is just a matter of habit.
Deal breaker:
- Crappy camera with lack of optical image stabilization. No matter what software does via EIS - it is not the same
Outcome: OnePlus 5T returned.
Then - decided to get Pixel 2 XL, hoping that it would get better shots. What a disaster of a phone it is.. around 1,100 Canadian - that is on sale.
Pros:
- Perhaps camera, but in two days took some photos, they didn't look nice either
Deal breaker/disasters:
- Screen - non bright, cheap looking
- I also didn't like the curvy screen. No benefits, as the image is displayed on front of the screen, not on the curves. Only adds to ridiculous and unnecessary cost of the device.
- Screen edges - round. Maybe this is Google's "Style", but falls into a complete disaster category in my book. Even worse - initial version of the software had these roundish corners on top, and at the bottom had three white software keys on black background. Of course when the menu was on, lower corners were squared. When you look at combination of round above, and squared below - you feel like you are not seeing right, and time to visit a nuthouse.
- Even better - with the update to fix burn in issue - menu became lighter / grey color, with transparency - with white buttons. When you are hitting the soft buttons - your mind registers as if you are hitting background.
- Support.. Google won't admit that they include screen burn in issue as part of their warranty. But they do - it took > 10 minutes in chat with Google Support to squeeze out of them the simple confirmation that burn in is covered by the 2 year warranty. So if you are unfortunate to end up with Pixel XL 2 and can't squeeze the confirmation from Google - IM me, and I will gladly share the conversation transcript
- Even better.. when you tap on the phone while it is off (and on too) - it is making hollow sound in the middle, hollow surface is approximately 2./3 of the width of the phone (in the middle) and 3/4 of the phone vertically (in the middle). This gives a feeling of a very cheap and uneven device which doesn't feel solid.
Outcome: Pixel 2 XL returned..
But the phone is still needed.. I looked on Ebay - there are many brand new Nexus 5 and 5X for couple of hundred bucks.. Also, yesterdays hardware is dirt cheap brand new. E.g. Lg G4 is $120. Yes, G4s randomly die, not all of them can be rooted, but still.
Nexues run Camera NX.. Also, just realized, that before Pixels, Google used to publish their camera software without limitations to their own hardware. APK sites should have old versions of the software. When you are looking for older hardware, remember that Camera NX needs 64 bit CPU.
If you are still on the fence, good luck with the choice! And remember that if you do not need latest and greatest - you can get solid performers (models from a year or few ago) for 1/5th of their initial price.
You may consider the camera.
Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits
martinez5241 said:
Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits
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Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?
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Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?
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In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.
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In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.
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Great, and regarding the screen quality / colors / contrast & black crush ?
I went from 5T to first gen. Pixel XL. Simply put, 5T camera is crap. I got a feeling that the problems with the camera wont never be fixed properly. If good quality photos are needed, I cant recommend the 5T.
Otherwise 5T is a great device and I liked it.
I'm switching from the 5T to a Pixel 2 XL (ordered with a good deal) just for the pure Android/fast updates and better camera. 5T is an awesome device specially for money.
5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.
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Also came from the 2 XL and I'm not one to try every flagship on the market before deciding which one to keep.
I had exchanged the 2 XL for defects twice. From touchscreen issues to dead pixel clusters. I eventually decided the display wasn't worth the price of the phone.
The blue shift is way over blown. Two of the devices I received had it and one didn't. It's not something that bugged me or noticed in daily use.
What did bug me was horrible brightness uniformity and graininess. And between receiving 3 different devices there were massive variations in display quality (color temperature, graininess, digitizer response). So it seems like buying one is like playing the lotto.
I miss the camera and the front facing speakers (no where near HTC m7,m8, m9 quality but better than the 5t).
It's a nice phone but it's not worth $1k.
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5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.
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I came from an original pixel to the 5T, yes the pixel camera was better but imo some pictures look more natural looking with the 5T camera. I guess it's down to personal taste. Low light photos the 5T isn't as great as the pixel but it's still a good camera on the 5T.
I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.
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I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.
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That's an awesome shot indeed, and a lovely looking dog
I think I've got a pretty rough idea of what I want in a phone, and sadly as of now, there is no such thing.
I'll probably be taking a 5T and see how I like it. I know the camera isn't gonna to be as good, but I've seen like every YouTube videos that exists on the subject in the past few days and I think the only way I can decide is to try by myself.
I will keep this thread updated when I'll be receiving mine if I indeed do take one, so that the people that are in such situation, having a supposed superb flagship and that are disappointed can find a bit of information switching to a supposed "worse" phone.
I posted this in the xl2 forum but wondered what kind of response I would get here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Due to my situation over the past few years I've been using the Samsung Galaxy Active line, S7 active now actually. So that really put a damper on my rooting and rom flashing which I had been a big part of since the original Samsung Galaxy S, Captivate on AT&T. Anyway I'm in a position to be be able to switch to a Pixel in a month or so but I don't know if I should go for the 3xl or save some money and get the 2xl, which seems like it's still quite a solid device. My most important concern is still having plenty of development for the xl2 after the 3 has been out for a while. I'd like wireless charging but not a deal breaker and since I think the camera on my S7 active is adequate I'm sure the camera upgrade between the 2xl and 3xl wouldn't be huge to me. I would greatly appreciate any opinions.
Thanks
I have both phones and I've compared them both side by side. The screen is better on the 3 and it's noticable. Even with the notch there's more content shown on screen. The speakers are also punchier and have a rumble to them. The 3 is more fluid but not that noticable. The camera is the same. If you go with the 2, you won't be disappointed, it's still a great phone.
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I have both phones and I've compared them both side by side. The screen is better on the 3 and it's noticable. Even with the notch there's more content shown on screen. The speakers are also punchier and have a rumble to them. The 3 is more fluid but not that noticable. The camera is the same. If you go with the 2, you won't be disappointed, it's still a great phone.
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What malek said. I would like to reiterate the screen improvement from the 2xl to the 3xl though. The 2xl screen was just plain awful. Worst phone screen I can remember. It's the only phone I've ever owned that turned everything blue (and people you take photos of all look sick thanks to the washed out colors and added blue tint) if you didn't look at it in just the right angle. The screen upgrade alone makes the 3xl the easy choice to me.
Gonna purchase a used phone soon. Which one do ya think?? Pixel 2 xl or OP5t??
I had both phones.
In my opinion both are great phones with great performance. I had the 8/128 version on OP5T and it was blazing fast. But the camera was the thing i switched to Pïxel 2 XL.
Now i love it and to be honest i dont see much difference in performace. But i use it mostly for browsing, youtube and whastapp. And debugging my apps so i dont give it a hard time also.
If you have specific questions please let me know.
The camera of 1+5t is disappointed compere the pixel.
Beside that is a good phone.
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2xl if you want stay on stock rom and 5t if you want a custom rom...
Pixel is better anyday. You will get two more major updates. That should say it all
2XL hands down. Had a OP5, camera was garbage and gcam ports have a million problems on OP5/T. Front facing speakers, 1440p screen, ip67, better vibration motor (very important to me), more premium design, killer camera.
I had the OP 5T and it was rock solid. Very good batterylife for me, blazing fast and OP gives you Major updates and small updates regulary. Now i own a Pixel 2XL and so far its very nice and i Like it a Lot.
Pro's for the OP 5T:
Batterylife
Performance (2GB of more RAM are noticable imo)
Faster FP unlock + stunning fast Face Unlock
Pro's for the Pixel 2XL:
Much better camera
More premium feel (tho the OP 5T feels nice too)
Pixel Features (free Photos Upload etc.)
Always Up to Date Android (with still one more big Update to come at a Minimum and more then 1.5 years of Security Updates)
So all in all i think if i had to buy a new phone and they would have the same price i think i would go for the Pixel 2 XL again. If i could get the OP 6 or 6T for the price i think i would go with Them, because I really Like more batterylife and with gcam port you can get good Photos Out of their camera too and Performance is better
Hope i didn't forget anything.
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Pixel is better anyday. You will get two more major updates. That should say it all
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1+5t has a better screen, faster phone, major updates, headphone jack.
OP if you're considering a OnePlus phone I would go with the 1+6. I have that and a Pixel 2 XL. I'm always torn on what phone I want to use what day lol.
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1+5t has a better screen, faster phone, major updates, headphone jack.
OP if you're considering a OnePlus phone I would go with the 1+6. I have that and a Pixel 2 XL. I'm always torn on what phone I want to use what day lol.
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I don't think so it has a better screen. Faster phone? By how many seconds? Does headphone jack even matters now??
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I don't think so it has a better screen. Faster phone? By how many seconds? Does headphone jack even matters now??
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Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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Heck right now I've come back to the Pixel XL 2 from the OnePlus 6T. I added oneplus gestures so I could at least have that feature that I liked so much on the Pixel. It's been updated and works a lot better than before.
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Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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I'm not sure about 5t screen but yeah 6 might be better. The blue tint doesn't bother me or the black smearing as such. The grain is irritating though. My pixel never slowed down like yours though. Ah well it's debatable when it comes to 3.5mm jack. One plus will also move towards excluding it eventually, you still get an adapter? I've attached mine to my earphones if i ever need them. I use wireless almost all the time though.
I don't know there is something about pixel which no manufacturer can make you feel. The camera obviously is the best in the world. I think you will get more updates with 2xl than with one plus. Also Google will optimise it for pixel more for obvious reasons
I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
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I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
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Oh come on now you are just exaggerating ... Battery life is better in pixel 2xl , but that depends on your usage as well. I don't see any stutters in my pixel 2xl so I've no complaints regarding performance either. Ram is a hardware and can't be changed, that's our conscious decision.
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Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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Regarding the headphone jack, you are right: People who use it extensively probably won't touch a Pixel 2 XL. I personally have never ever used the jack on any phone I had, so it's a non-issue.
The screen on the Pixel 2 XL is a matter of luck: My phone is one of the first ones manufactured (in October 2017), and its screen was OK. I got a replacement screen after dropping my phone, and this one is much better. Hardly any blue shift and better colors (I was really surprised after the replacement!).
I have no problems with app updates, everything works fine. But I rarely game, so YMMV depending on your usage.
But the Pixel 2 XL has the best software I have ever seen on any phone, this is my first phone where I use the stock ROM as-is ( but with Magisk, TWRP and Substratum). It is rock solid, has a very good battery runtime and is super smooth. So I will stick to Pixels for the time being - this also is the first phone where I don't see a need for replacing it after 1 1/2 years.
If the Pixel 4 doesn't have some earth-shattering improvements, I'll stick with my 2 XL as long as it lasts...
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Oh come on now you are just exaggerating ... Battery life is better in pixel 2xl , but that depends on your usage as well. I don't see any stutters in my pixel 2xl so I've no complaints regarding performance either. Ram is a hardware and can't be changed, that's our conscious decision.
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It's a usage based comparison, not an isolated opinion. Besides, I didn't say Pixel 2 XL fluidity is "bad" I said OnePlus 5T is better and it definitely is.
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I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
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It's a usage based comparison, not an isolated opinion. Besides, I didn't say Pixel 2 XL fluidity is "bad" I said OnePlus 5T is better and it definitely is.
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That's what i said as well it's usage based but as a general comparison on gsm arena.. 2xl scores over 5t.
I never said that either but 2xl is at a point where you don't really care about the fluidity much because it's already very smooth. The animations may make it look a bit slow but if you disable them you've an equal experience. Who cares about something less than a second. Only the 3.5mm jack is an advantage
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Regarding the headphone jack, you are right: People who use it extensively probably won't touch a Pixel 2 XL. I personally have never ever used the jack on any phone I had, so it's a non-issue.
The screen on the Pixel 2 XL is a matter of luck: My phone is one of the first ones manufactured (in October 2017), and its screen was OK. I got a replacement screen after dropping my phone, and this one is much better. Hardly any blue shift and better colors (I was really surprised after the replacement!).
I have no problems with app updates, everything works fine. But I rarely game, so YMMV depending on your usage.
But the Pixel 2 XL has the best software I have ever seen on any phone, this is my first phone where I use the stock ROM as-is ( but with Magisk, TWRP and Substratum). It is rock solid, has a very good battery runtime and is super smooth. So I will stick to Pixels for the time being - this also is the first phone where I don't see a need for replacing it after 1 1/2 years.
If the Pixel 4 doesn't have some earth-shattering improvements, I'll stick with my 2 XL as long as it lasts...
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I've had 4 Pixel 2 XLs from September to December builds. The December ones are definitely better but still suffer from blotching at low brightness in dark rooms and have the grainy/dusty screens that I described earlier. I agree that the pixel has some of the best software since it's pure, but I still believe OnePlus had done a better job at software than Google from 1+6 onward. This is definitely not the 1st phone I've kept stock. You should give OneUI on a Note 9 a shot. It's unbelievably smooth as butter and the functionality of it is amazing.
At the end, to each their own. And it's true what you said that your milage and experience will vary. The one true reason I come back to the pixels is strictly the camera which is amazing. I will try to find a good offer on a Pixel 3 XL to see how much the pixel has improved with the SD 845
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A key concern should be software updates ..5t can't compete..OnePlus and all other non-pixels are in the milking mode,milk a new release to the max, when sales get slow release a new phone and forget about the older ones
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Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room.
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I agree. On my panda 2xl, which i got a month ago, the black crush and ghosting with low screen brightness is quite bad. At least disabling adaptive brightness "solves" the issue. Blue shift is minimal though.
With low brightness, even my old Galaxy S6 behaves much better than the pixel 2 xl. The op6 also uses a Samsung oled panel.
Hello guys... We are going forward to pixel 4, after all of this years i want to ask what would be better to buy...
A brand new pixel 2xl 128gb? or a pixel 3a xl
Do they have same camera and quality?
Does pixel 2 work perfectly after the burn in problem on screen?
Let me know your opinion!!
Thank you all..
If I were in your shoes, I'd get the Pixel 3a XL simply because it performs similarly to the 2 XL in day to day use, has a headphone jack, and it's a tad newerr so there's always the off chance it might receive updates for longer
I steered my roommate to the 3aXL for an upgrade, since she doesn't need the flagship-level processor. In fact, the processor is the biggest difference between the two, as the 3aXL uses a mid-range processor rather than a SD835 or later. That said, the 3aXL, even with Verizon crapware on it (yeah she went with Verizon as she doesn't need root) it's snappy. In fact, I couldn't detect any lag when comparing it to my P2XL, despite the different processors.
The 3aXL only comes with 64GB of storage, which is starting to run a bit small.
The camera hardware is identical in both, but the 3aXL lacks the Pixel Visual Core chip found in the 2XL. This means some operations with the camera will be slower than with the 2XL as the 3aXL has to steal CPU cycles to process pictures.
The 2XL didn't have a burn-in issue from what I recall. Some units had a noticeable blue shift when holding the device at an angle, though the concerns related to it were largely overblown. That said, do keep in mind the following about OLED screens.
1. ALL OLED screens will have some degree of blue shift when held at an angle. This is normal for this technology.
2. ALL OLED screens can suffer from screen burn in if static elements are displayed for a long time. For example, my roommate used my Nexus 6 prior to the 3aXL and left the navigation bar up all the time instead of hiding it as I do. There is now burn-in where the bar is located, though I did manage to reduce the amount of burn-in with an AMOLED screen fix utility.
Opinion: Go with the P2XL. Like the 3aXL it will see Android Q and (possibly) R, has twice the storage, the Pixel Visual Core, water resistance the 3aXL lacks, and an aluminum body instead of plastic. Just be sure that the one you purchase is not a Verizon device, or else you most likely will never have root due to a locked bootloader.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I steered my roommate to the 3aXL for an upgrade, since she doesn't need the flagship-level processor. In fact, the processor is the biggest difference between the two, as the 3aXL uses a mid-range processor rather than a SD835 or later. That said, the 3aXL, even with Verizon crapware on it (yeah she went with Verizon as she doesn't need root) it's snappy. In fact, I couldn't detect any lag when comparing it to my P2XL, despite the different processors.
The 3aXL only comes with 64GB of storage, which is starting to run a bit small.
The camera hardware is identical in both, but the 3aXL lacks the Pixel Visual Core chip found in the 2XL. This means some operations with the camera will be slower than with the 2XL as the 3aXL has to steal CPU cycles to process pictures.
The 2XL didn't have a burn-in issue from what I recall. Some units had a noticeable blue shift when holding the device at an angle, though the concerns related to it were largely overblown. That said, do keep in mind the following about OLED screens.
1. ALL OLED screens will have some degree of blue shift when held at an angle. This is normal for this technology.
2. ALL OLED screens can suffer from screen burn in if static elements are displayed for a long time. For example, my roommate used my Nexus 6 prior to the 3aXL and left the navigation bar up all the time instead of hiding it as I do. There is now burn-in where the bar is located, though I did manage to reduce the amount of burn-in with an AMOLED screen fix utility.
Opinion: Go with the P2XL. Like the 3aXL it will see Android Q and (possibly) R, has twice the storage, the Pixel Visual Core, water resistance the 3aXL lacks, and an aluminum body instead of plastic. Just be sure that the one you purchase is not a Verizon device, or else you most likely will never have root due to a locked bootloader.
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I thought that blue shift was at the beginning devices and now should be fine, but maybe im wrong.
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I thought that blue shift was at the beginning devices and now should be fine, but maybe im wrong.
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The complaints were because the blue shift was more noticeable. All OLED displays, regardless of manufacturer, have some degree of blue shift.
Blue shift. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Three devices, made in different years, all with the same issue. None are defective, and the complaints about it with this device are overblown.
i got pixel 2 xl , thnk you so much all! should i update to Q or pie? what do you advιsing me?
Update to Android 9, then Q when it's released.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Update to Android 9, then Q when it's released.
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okey thnks! Camera works fine on 9?
Noexcusses said:
okey thnks! Camera works fine on 9?
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Yes, and gets better with every shot you take. The Pixel Visual Core AI analyzes past results - the pictures you have taken - to improve the shots you will take in the future.
Thanks
Good decision to go for pixel 2xl. I think it's better than 3axl. It has better processor, visual core chip and still two major upgrades remaining.
And we have sultan for p2xl.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The complaints were because the blue shift was more noticeable. All OLED displays, regardless of manufacturer, have some degree of blue shift.
Blue shift. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Three devices, made in different years, all with the same issue. None are defective, and the complaints about it with this device are overblown.
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Older OLED screens, like the ones you mentioned, for sure had blue shift as bad as the Pixel 2 XL. But when you compared other $850+ phones with OLED screens from the the year before and same year as the Pixel 2 XL, the shift was definitely not as bad on those. It's actually kind of sad that a phone in 2017 still had the same bad blue shift as phones from 2013 and 2014.
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Older OLED screens, like the ones you mentioned, for sure had blue shift as bad as the Pixel 2 XL. But when you compared other $850+ phones with OLED screens from the the year before and same year as the Pixel 2 XL, the shift was definitely not as bad on those. It's actually kind of sad that a phone in 2017 still had the same bad blue shift as phones from 2013 and 2014.
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The point is that all OLED screens have it, regardless of vintage. It's a consequence of the screen manufacturers trying to cut their expenses by having displays share blue subpixels between adjacent pixels. Expecting there to be little to no blue shift on an OLED screen is like tilting at a windmill. Thus, the complaints are totally overblown.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The point is that all OLED screens have it, regardless of vintage. It's a consequence of the screen manufacturers trying to cut their expenses by having displays share blue subpixels between adjacent pixels. Expecting there to be little to no blue shift on an OLED screen is like tilting at a windmill. Thus, the complaints are totally overblown.
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I'm not saying there's no shift in any other OLED screens. It was just still way more noticeable on the Pixel than any other OLED at the time. Hence, why it was such a big downside in the reviews. I'm looking at an S9+ and there's a red shift but it's a lot less than the blue shift in my Pixel 2 XL.[emoji2371]
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In case you haven't decided yet, I was also contemplating between these two phones (among others) and decided on the Pixel 2 XL recently. It ended up being better in regards to price, speed, number of supported bands, waterproofing, etc.
Regarding the discussion about the blue, go check eBay and you will definitely notice that some of the phones have it glaringly bad compared to others. Yes OLED has it, but my first one had it really bad. My latest has a very light version of it so I am happy.