I have went back and forth with the 3 different resolution settings. If I look hard I can tell a little difference. At HD it is actually a little less sharp then my LG G5. Do we have any idea of the draw backs of the highest resolution? How much less battery life. Does it affect smoothness. I'll try different setting myself but was just wondering if anybody knew already.
I'm in the process of trying out the higher resolution too. I'll report back my real world use findings.
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I haven't measured battery use (and it would be hard to have exactly the same test conditions anyway), but I haven't noticed any real difference between FHD and WQHD in normal use. I also don't see a whole lot of difference in sharpness or image quality, but maybe someone with younger eyes than me will see a difference.
Testing max resolution for a few days now, no major battery life impact so far. No lag either.
I've been happy with the battery on max as well. At the end of the day, with almost 4 hours screen time, my battery was still 40% yesterday. LTE most of the day, some wifi.
The difference between 1480x720 HD+ and 2220x1080 FHD+ is around 20 minutes battery time over the course of the entire day I believe. Then with 2960x1440 WQHD+ you're probably looking at losing 40 minutes of battery throughout the day. And overall, each step up uses more RAM, which is expected.
In terms of a difference, I can't really tell the real difference between 720p and WQHD+ ... I mean, the screen is small already, it's a phone. It isn't like you're stretch the resolution over a Monitor or TV where you can clearly tell the difference.
I believe WQHD+ is just slightly sharper. The big difference is if you were to use a VR Headset since the screen would be very close to your face and magnified.. this is when I would recommend using WQHD+ ... FHD+ 1080p is fine for daily use and I doubt you would be able to have a noticeable battery drain.
It's truely a topic of Battery Life & Lower Temps / vs. / "Visual Fidelity" & Higher Temps. I believe using WQHD+ over the course of a year would have a considerable but not horrible wear on the battery lifespan however, considering hardware isn't impervious to aging.
I've played with both resolutions but haven't noticed a difference neither.
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For those running the phone at automatic brightness, do you still experience the lags / heating issue as those running at 100%? I'v always run my phone at Automatic as 100% always hurt my eyes (I want good eyes when I get older lol).
Do you still enjoy the screen as much, after all that is the selling point for the lg g3...battery life?
mgbotoe said:
For those running the phone at automatic brightness, do you still experience the lags / heating issue as those running at 100%? I'v always run my phone at Automatic as 100% always hurt my eyes (I want good eyes when I get older lol).
Do you still enjoy the screen as much, after all that is the selling point for the lg g3...battery life?
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The phone is bound to be cooler if you use automatic brightness, and when its cooler it means that the thermal throttle on the CPU doesn't kick in so theoretically the lags will not be as bad either.
As for the final point, I was not aware the LG was being marketed as a phone with immense battery life? I would say the camera, thin bezel and 2K screen are the selling points, battery would not even come close to the top.
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The phone is bound to be cooler if you use automatic brightness, and when its cooler it means that the thermal throttle on the CPU doesn't kick in so theoretically the lags will not be as bad either.
As for the final point, I was not aware the LG was being marketed as a phone with immense battery life? I would say the camera, thin bezel and 2K screen are the selling points, battery would not even come close to the top.
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Battery may not be a selling point but will still be nice to know hows the battery with out all that lag / thermal throbbing fighting with the device ^.^ I am fairly satisfy with 4 hour battery life, I am not out to get the 6-7 hour battery life I have been getting on the note 3 3200 battery, so as you can see my standards have dropped.
running Lg g3, got rid of bloat and running cloudy, using trickster on performace (opens apps at full 2.5GHZ) overal with the 4k display im not running laggy atall however the 4k display is not a defining feature nor anything i miss when downscale to 1080p, and want someone to let me know infact if i down scaled to 1080p, will i get better battery life, (could do my own test but would be hard to tell)
Well, even when you change the screen resolution the pixels are still there and need to be lighted so I dont think the impact on the battery life will be big. But that's just an educated guess.
I remember reading a comment in another thread (dunno where) that said changing resolution made no affect on battery drain.
If you'd like to test it yourself, find an intensive graphical benchmark application that you can loop > and time how long it takes to drain 10 percent of battery. Then lower the resolution and time the next 10 percent. Make sure you don't start with a full battery, because from 100 to 99 takes a long time. 99 to 15 seems to take the same time per percentage. 15 to 5 seems to go very quickly, and 5 to 1 takes me a long time.
Especially with root now becoming available, I started giving this more thought:
If someone wanted to do that, would running a lower resolution be an option, to perhaps extend your battery life?
The screen is QHD, 1440x2560. To minimize scaling issues with a fixed-pixel-location screen like an LCD, you could go down to HD, 720x1280. Now the graphics hardware is dealing with 1/4 as many pixels. It won't look as good, granted, but lets say the user accepts that trade-off.
Is this even possible? If so, do you think it could help battery life?
I don't have experience with this on phones. But on a computer, you can certainly lower your display resolution, even if using an LCD. It will look fuzzy at a non-native resolution, but perhaps that's less of an issue here, with the pixels being so small by comparison. And if you were gaming on the PC, lowering the resolution would allow higher framerates, assuming you were limited by your graphics card, not your CPU. I've admittedly never thought about it from a power-use perspective, but it seems reasonable that, if keeping the framerate the same, running a lower resolution would require less power for the PC.
My Galaxy S3 was 720x1280, admittedly on a smaller 4.8" screen, but I thought it looked fine. If using a lower screen resolution could, say, add 20% to my G4's SOT, I would be interested in that.
I believe this is what changing the DPI is for. This can be done via apps, or changing the value in the build.prop I think. Pushing less pixels on to the screen will definitely increase battery life. There's a threshold though, and depending on which G4 variant you have (whether it's branded by a carrier, etc.) you may want to research on what a safe number might be. I think some AT&T G4 user reported bootloops after changing the DPI to <530 or something. It looks like the camera doesn't get affected by the DPI change too, which is a definite good sign.
I'm waiting to see how the battery life holds up right now with root mode now being enabled in Greenify. If I can't squeeze more than 5 hours SoT while at a certain brightness and using BT, I'll consider changing the DPI.
This is not going to improve battery life in the slightest. You might be running a lower resolution but all the pixels are stilled turned on. The lower tax on the GPU is negligible.
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This is not going to improve battery life in the slightest. You might be running a lower resolution but all the pixels are stilled turned on. The lower tax on the GPU is negligible.
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Agreed. This was done on the G3 and batter life was not changed, only game performance improved as you are pushing graphics at 1080p instead of 1440p.
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I believe this is what changing the DPI is for. This can be done via apps, or changing the value in the build.prop I think. Pushing less pixels on to the screen will definitely increase battery life. There's a threshold though, and depending on which G4 variant you have (whether it's branded by a carrier, etc.) you may want to research on what a safe number might be. I think some AT&T G4 user reported bootloops after changing the DPI to <530 or something. It looks like the camera doesn't get affected by the DPI change too, which is a definite good sign.
I'm waiting to see how the battery life holds up right now with root mode now being enabled in Greenify. If I can't squeeze more than 5 hours SoT while at a certain brightness and using BT, I'll consider changing the DPI.
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I believe that that's wrong, specially if you set it to numbers lower than stock.
I found a way to change the resolution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/tool-change-phone-resolution-dpi-root-t3582863
Follow this thread, it's so simple and works perfectly!! on LG G4 818p
The settings allow you to lower the resolution. I lowered the resolution to 2340 x 1080 and I don't really notice anything different.... Would this increase battery life? If so, how much?
It will definitely increase battery life.
How much will it increase depends on your usage and your apps installed. It should at max give you 10% increase.
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Would this increase battery life? If so, how much?
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It is well and widely known that lowering resolution won't give you increased battery life. At all
Ah thanks. I come from an xperia z3 so been using FHD screens only. I was interested in the XZ1 compact back then and one of the key points from reviewers is that the lower screen resolution(720p) saved a lot more battery vs the XZ1 at 1080p.
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Ah thanks. I come from an xperia z3 so been using FHD screens only. I was interested in the XZ1 compact back then and one of the key points from reviewers is that the lower screen resolution(720p) saved a lot more battery vs the XZ1 at 1080p.
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I think the misconception is lowering the screen resolution vs a device that maxes out at a lower resolution. Maybe it makes a difference for OLEDs...but for LCD screens, all if the pixels are still illuminated, so there's not much difference there.
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I think the misconception is lowering the screen resolution vs a device that maxes out at a lower resolution. Maybe it makes a difference for OLEDs...but for LCD screens, all if the pixels are still illuminated, so there's not much difference there.
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Sounds convincing and makes sense. I wonder why they'd allow it on this device though?
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Sounds convincing and makes sense. I wonder why they'd allow it on this device though?
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Because Samsung's can do it.
Nothing but hype for the misinformed and ill-advised.
[Dopey voice]"Bruh...look what my phone can do to save battery life. Can yours?" [/Dopey voice]
Using lower resolutions use less power bc they use less gpu computational power. Youre not saving anything really from the screen itself. Think of it this way does your computer/laptop use more power running resource intensive applications or running idle?
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Ah thanks. I come from an xperia z3 so been using FHD screens only. I was interested in the XZ1 compact back then and one of the key points from reviewers is that the lower screen resolution(720p) saved a lot more battery vs the XZ1 at 1080p.
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As one said here it's from misinformed people.
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XZ1 compact back then and one of the key points from reviewers is that the lower screen resolution(720p) saved.
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Not that the resolution that saved power. If Sony could put their 3840x2160 resolution display into 4.3" size of XZ1 compact it still would run longer on battery than any 6.5" sized phone from similar battery even with 720p display. Because it's sheer size of screen that saves battery, not the resolution. 4.3" vs 6.5" is hefty difference. One needs more light to make 6.5" display emit light than to make 4.3" one hence one need more power.
Think about it this way, if resolution would matter then XZ Premium and XZ2 Premium would drain their batteries in a matter of minutes with 3840x2160 res displays. Right? But they work almost as long as say Galaxy S9 Plus or Note 8.
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Think of it this way does your computer/laptop use more power running resource intensive applications or running idle?
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It not works like that. When your phone renders picture in 720p or 1080p it doesn't do it sitting idle. It still consumes power when rendering picture 60 times a sec. And its GPU still runs at 200MHz, maybe it needs like 230 or 250MHz for rendering picture in 1440p but is 250MHz vs 200 MHz a huge difference? I doubt it
It's not like 1440 picture rendering needs full GPU power but 720p or 1080p can be powered by idle GPU. Never was, never will. Ask devs in http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking if in doubt
In reality ability to pick your resolution for battery life is a gimmick and doesn't really do anything.
There were no proofs that phones live longer from same charge when it's resolution lowered. Maybe it works for constant gaming, like playing games in 720p on a 1440p screen will bump battery life. But in other cases no
Taking only power consumption from the display alone, there is no different between HD, FHQ, QHD. The different is that if a game or any apps(or even system app itselfs) runs at HD, it will need less graphic computational power than running at QHD (once again, its not about the drainage from the display, its from GPU).
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The different is that if a game or any apps(or even system app itselfs) runs at HD, it will need less graphic computational power than running at QHD (once again, its not about the drainage from the display, its from GPU).
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in reality, it's bull****. learn how GPU works. Try to ask Google devs if you don't know. They do habitate here, at XDA
It's not like it renders something and then goes to sleep turning cores off as CPU does. Instead GPU renders frame 60 times a sec and uses 203MHz either your resolution is 720p or 1080p. It can't lower frequency to 100MHz magically because it's not designed that way. So it consumes as much power working at 203MHz either rendering 720p frames or rendering 1080p frames.
Hence no battery economy achieved
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in reality, it's bull****. learn how GPU works. Try to ask Google devs if you don't know. They do habitate here, at XDA
It's not like it renders something and then goes to sleep turning cores off as CPU does. Instead GPU renders frame 60 times a sec and uses 203MHz either your resolution is 720p or 1080p. It can't lower frequency to 100MHz magically because it's not designed that way. So it consumes as much power working at 203MHz either rendering 720p frames or rendering 1080p frames.
Hence no battery economy achieved
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See this:
https://www.google.co.th/url?sa=t&s...FjADegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3qEXVbk4h0XmHcDhhRUR1P
I'm wondering what kinda battery life you get on the zfold3. When I opened youtube with the big screen on my accusatory app says it dr omegle ains 32%/hr does anyone else have any knowledge of if this is normal rate or high? I got it on ebay so I'm trying to make sure that everything is running as expected.
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Also if I open lifeafter and play it while fast charging the back of the phone gets really realty hot! Think it was in the 120-130° range xender and screen goes really dim. Anyone else experience this on any slightly more demanding games?
When I watch videos on YouTube with the Fold open I have the same behavior as you, I reduced this by forcing the refresh to 48hz on the videos. For games I don't know, however it consumes when open.
Use manual brightness control and keep below 50% Display brightness sucks a lot of battery.
Using dark mode and wallpaper helps too.
Black pixels use no power... darker ones use a lot less.
Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Lol, it never worked that I saw. Google global power management and it's tarded buckets will also cause erratic behaviors that can't be resolved unless you turn it off.
Hand optimizing is better, harder to do... but it works.