I got the LG G4 last week and every time I game on the phone, it uses 38% of my battery or so per hour. Is this normal? Nothing else uses much battery, the gaming optimizer is on and I've disabled extra apps I don't need.
I also notice my phone gets too hot to touch sometimes when playing a game.
At this rate I only get a little over 2 hours of use on a fully charged phone, which is crazy.
I have the Tmobile version, if that matters.
Does this happen to anyone else? My Samsung S4 and Xperia Z3 Compact had MUCH better gaming time than my G4. Maybe I have a dud?
Omgiloveshineythings said:
I got the LG G4 last week and every time I game on the phone, it uses 38% of my battery or so per hour. Is this normal? Nothing else uses much battery, the gaming optimizer is on and I've disabled extra apps I don't need.
I also notice my phone gets too hot to touch sometimes when playing a game.
At this rate I only get a little over 2 hours of use on a fully charged phone, which is crazy.
I have the Tmobile version, if that matters.
Does this happen to anyone else? My Samsung S4 and Xperia Z3 Compact had MUCH better gaming time than my G4. Maybe I have a dud?
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Sounds about right if its an intense game. It has to push 2k pixels, where as the s4 and z3 has much fewer. I kept having weird glitches with the game optimizer on playing final fantasy record keeper, so I turned it off and things worked fine. For that game it was probably closer to 30% an hour for me. I also have my brightness 35% or less too. Try turning off the game optimizer and see what happens. What is your brightness?
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Sounds about right if its an intense game. It has to push 2k pixels, where as the s4 and z3 has much fewer. I kept having weird glitches with the game optimizer on playing final fantasy record keeper, so I turned it off and things worked fine. For that game it was probably closer to 30% an hour for me. I also have my brightness 35% or less too. Try turning off the game optimizer and see what happens. What is your brightness?
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Is there any way to lower the pixel density so it doesn't have to push such high quality graphics? Another person said they thought the g4 is a terrible option for gaming because it has a bad GPU and that might be why it gets hot as well. I tend to play games on my phone alot when I'm waiting for something or bored so losing 38% battery an hour makes the phone a terrible fit for me. I have 14 days to return it, so I'm thinking about getting a phone like the s5 or something.
I'll try turning the optimizer off and see if that changes anything. My brightness depends on where I am but at home i keep it at about 30%.
Lower the graphics quality in the game and turn down the brightness, you can't do much more.
And 40% sounds completely reasonable.
This is what I noticed playing Juice Jam. It drains fast with auto brightness (50%). I'll try disabling game optimizer and see if it does anything.
Not much you can do except fiddle with the brightness.
And you're correct with the G4 not being a good gaming device. The GPU isn't exactly the greatest but still formidable. But with that 1440p screen, you can't expect magic. I would only do minor casual gaming on this thing (ie. Checking up on village in COC sort of thing with a few raids), nothing intense. Otherwise you would need a different phone. The Sony Xperia (Z3 I think?) are good for gaming with their insane battery life. S6 would be your next best bet.
Jumped here only to mention the Z3 battery life ... It is worth every penny when it comes to screen on time. By the end of the day it hits 5~6 hours of sot mainly gaming where as the g4 hardly gets 3~4 hours of moderate use.
Currently own both the Z3 and the G4 and both in dual SIM versions too
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Yes, you can lower the pixel density. That will probably cause some UI inconsistencies throughout the phone, but most things should work, but from seeing it on the Note 4, a lot of things won't as well.
I'd say, don't fret. You're getting 2 hours of playing games on your phone... If you picked the G4 for THAT reason, return it. Surely there are better phones, as mentioned, the Z3 has great battery life - probably the best for a phone its size. There's also the OPO and the Zen Mate 7. All have GREAT battery life, but of course, lack in other features.
Would I have preferred a 1080p screen? Yes! Why do I need a higher quality screen in my phone than in my living room? Lol. Is there anything I can do about this now that we already have this 2k screen frenzy? Nope. Even the next Sony device us rumored to jump onto its bandwagon as well...
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Sony Xperia XZ Premium before depleting the battery.
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Got 6hrs @ 50%
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Got 6hrs @ 50%
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that is amazing !!!
how did you reached this time?
please answer these
-screen brightness
-stamina use or not
-airplane mode
-how was your usage ( heavy or medium or ....)
-do you charge your phone with fast charge or not ?
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that is amazing !!!
how did you reached this time?
please answer these
-screen brightness
-stamina use or not
-airplane mode
-how was your usage ( heavy or medium or ....)
-do you charge your phone with fast charge or not ?
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Screen brightness @40%
No stamina
Wifi and mobile data are on
Using heavy some time and medium usage
I used original charger in the box
Rooted with storm fix
karrouma said:
Screen brightness @40%
No stamina
Wifi and mobile data are on
Using heavy some time and medium usage
I used original charger in the box
Rooted with storm fix
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(Rooted with storm fix)
so that is the reason for your high screen time
what is your charger model ? UCH12 ?
if it is uch12 so you are using fast charge
ashkan.t said:
(Rooted with storm fix)
so that is the reason for your high screen time
what is your charger model ? UCH12 ?
if it is uch12 so you are using fast charge
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yep
im getting 8-9 hours with 3-3.5 hours of asphalt 8 gameplay on high graphics, one or two movies on youtube, full low brightness (35% on movies in YT), heavy facebook usage. and a lot of other things like video editing, whats, HG,G+ etc etc.
uninstalled all useless system and user apps. added play services in doze mode. reduced background activity and background data on all user and system apps.
using 1890x3360 resolution (to fix touch issues).
Im on oreo (.51) with storms DRM Fix/kernel, I used serajrs debloat script to get rid of all the useless apps, 8.45 hours with 13% left, this phone is a beast! Mobile data all day, stamina on performance, some YouTube, lots of browsing, telegram msg's, couldnt ask for better.
So are you guys getting these insane screen on times due to root? If so what are you doing to achieve this?
If not rooted what are you doing to get these kind of screen on times
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So are you guys getting these insane screen on times due to root? If so what are you doing to achieve this?
If not rooted what are you doing to get these kind of screen on times
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Hi,
My device isn't rooted and this is what I do to get the most out of the battery...
1. I try to never allow the battery to get hot in order to prolong its excellent performance. If you're charging your phone, don't run heavy draining apps as this will greatly increase the battery's temperature. When charging my phone, I usually set stamina mode to always on and if I'm not expecting important phone calls I sometimes activate airplane mode. If you want to make and receive calls just turn off Bluetooth, wife, data and GPS while the phone is plugged in to keep the battery temperature down.
2. I used to love the Juice Defender app which was able to automatically turn off Wife/Data whenever the screen is off but sadly it hasn't been updated in so many years. Now I just manually turn off WiFi and Data whenever the phone is not in use.
3. If you're watching an offline film or reading a book, turn off your WiFi and Data. Again, if you're not looking to make calls activate Airplane Mode as this tends to lessen the battery drain especially when watching 4k movies.
4. Delete any apps that you don't use. Especially the power hungry apps!
5. I only tend to set brightness to the lowest setting when I'm in a very dark room. There's no point in always having it so low in broad daylight like a disorientated cave-dweller.
6. When you go to bed, activate stamina mode (if you want to save more juice then also activate Airplane Mode) and just make sure that it won't affect your alarm in the morning. ?
That's pretty much it for me I guess. Rooting voids the warranty and that's not something I want to do so I'm happy with my current usage and performance.
Hope this helps!
SNOOPLAYAN said:
Hi,
My device isn't rooted and this is what I do to get the most out of the battery...
1. I try to never allow the battery to get hot in order to prolong its excellent performance. If you're charging your phone, don't run heavy draining apps as this will greatly increase the battery's temperature. When charging my phone, I usually set stamina mode to always on and if I'm not expecting important phone calls I sometimes activate airplane mode. If you want to make and receive calls just turn off Bluetooth, wife, data and GPS while the phone is plugged in to keep the battery temperature down.
2. I used to love the Juice Defender app which was able to automatically turn off Wife/Data whenever the screen is off but sadly it hasn't been updated in so many years. Now I just manually turn off WiFi and Data whenever the phone is not in use.
3. If you're watching an offline film or reading a book, turn off your WiFi and Data. Again, if you're not looking to make calls activate Airplane Mode as this tends to lessen the battery drain especially when watching 4k movies.
4. Delete any apps that you don't use. Especially the power hungry apps!
5. I only tend to set brightness to the lowest setting when I'm in a very dark room. There's no point in always having it so low in broad daylight like a disorientated cave-dweller.
6. When you go to bed, activate stamina mode (if you want to save more juice then also activate Airplane Mode) and just make sure that it won't affect your alarm in the morning.
That's pretty much it for me I guess. Rooting voids the warranty and that's not something I want to do so I'm happy with my current usage and performance.
Hope this helps!
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You can also try to turn off the phone, this will bring excellent battery life :cyclops:
Just kidding :silly:
By the way, root seems to improve a lot the phone, but I have Amazon warranty and would be a shame to lose it for rooting the phone
alexs784 said:
You can also try to turn off the phone, this will bring excellent battery life :cyclops:
Just kidding :silly:
By the way, root seems to improve a lot the phone, but I have Amazon warranty and would be a shame to lose it for rooting the phone
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Hahahahaahahhaha
Yes that's one of the reasons why I'm not too keen on rooting. Rooting the device will also cause some issues that currently have no fix available so I'm good for now.
I can capture excellent stills and beautiful 4k footage. I get around 9-10 hours of screen on time with moderate to heavy use. Everything works as it should so I'm very happy with that.
3.5 hrs loosing 40%
I think for normal daily usage xzp got between 7-8 hrs
The seco d day reached [email protected]% of battery
Well, by my own experience, going out to work at 7:00, getting home at about 18:30 (plus commuting, as I was doing it in the bus too), I was reading an EPUB the whole day (Moon Reader+), black background with white text, the app prevents the screen from turning off, and I hardly had any reason besides lunch break to turn it off, I noticed I had forgotten the cable at the end of lunch break and took out brightness to about 35%, enough to be readable for me, it was on auto until them, no stamina mode either.
I got home with about 40% of battery left. I was quite surprised with my results.
Can get more than 20 hrs of SOT now
Look @The screenshoti taked after long day
5.5 hrs of SOT and 47% battery remaning
I get an average of 6 1/2 hours SOT with heavy gaming and brightness set to around 30%
Otherwise 2-3 days standby with medium to little use. I am impressed.
Ps. When gaming, is the screen running in 1080P or 4k?? How can we tell?
kanej2006 said:
I get an average of 6 1/2 hours SOT with heavy gaming and brightness set to around 30%
Otherwise 2-3 days standby with medium to little use. I am impressed.
Ps. When gaming, is the screen running in 1080P or 4k?? How can we tell?
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It is 1080p
SPeaky said:
It is 1080p
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Thanks for clearing that. This means that we only get 4k when viewing 4k movies? However, by default we are getting 1080p which includes gaming.
It would be nice if we could run games in 4k. Why have a 4k screen which is only running 1080P?
Same as buying a 4k TV/Monitor and gaming at 1080P. :crying:
At least we should have an option to change resolution like a PC when gaming, would make sense.Even gaming at 1440P would look amazing. Some games have visible jagged edges which would be eliminated if running at resolutions higher than 1080P...
kanej2006 said:
Thanks for clearing that. This means that we only get 4k when viewing 4k movies? However, by default we are getting 1080p which includes gaming.
It would be nice if we could run games in 4k. Why have a 4k screen which is only running 1080P?
Same as buying a 4k TV/Monitor and gaming at 1080P. :crying:
At least we should have an option to change resolution like a PC when gaming, would make sense.Even gaming at 1440P would look amazing. Some games have visible jagged edges which would be eliminated if running at resolutions higher than 1080P...
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hey could you please us all how much you paid for the PC that lets enjoy 4k gaming? and how much room it takes.
I'm not trying to underestimate the power of Snapdragon 835, but you surely don't understand that even GTX 1080 doesn't play all the games flawlessly in 4K
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hey could you please us all how much you paid for the PC that lets enjoy 4k gaming? and how much room it takes.
I'm not trying to underestimate the power of Snapdragon 835, but you surely don't understand that even GTX 1080 doesn't play all the games flawlessly in 4K
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Then you must not heard of GTX 1080 TI?? 30% better performance than the standard GTX 1080. I am able to play any game fully maxed, ultra settings at 4k with an average of 80-100 fps thank you very much...
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Here are my screen on time results with 60hz and FHD. Just experimenting with different settings to see the results. Honestly I don't feel battery is bad with auto resolution and QHD either I feel like this phone does very well on battery.
Not as good as the 6t but, it's pretty good.
Looking even more like the 6t screen on times now!
How do you guys set up your devices , so it can last so long?
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How do you guys set up your devices , so it can last so long?
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My last screen shot was wifi, lte, no 5g, fhd, 60hz, printing service off, find my device off and I believe that's it. Honestly I don't see a dramatic difference in screen quality with these setting either. It's noticeable but definitely not THAT noticeable and honestly it's worth it if you need your phone to last for long periods between charges.
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My last screen shot was wifi, lte, no 5g, fhd, 60hz, printing service off, find my device off and I believe that's it. Honestly I don't see a dramatic difference in screen quality with these setting either. It's noticeable but definitely not THAT noticeable and honestly it's worth it if you need your phone to last for long periods between charges.
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I get 5- 6 hours of SOT. 60/ FHD, dark override/ wifi filter/ all apps are optimized, location only while using an app, 5bg is off. WTF else need I do? I can't root it. Thinking about returning it to TMobile cus i heard that 5 g chip is always on eating the battery.
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I get 5- 6 hours of SOT. 60/ FHD, dark override/ wifi filter/ all apps are optimized, location only while using an app, 5bg is off. WTF else need I do? I can't root it. Thinking about returning it to TMobile cus i heard that 5 g chip is always on eating the battery.
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Yes, it does. I m returning mine tomorrow
I was getting quite good battery life on 10.0.19 but battery has taken a pretty good hit since the 10.0.25 update. I may try factory reset to see if that helps.
I'm pretty sure people with bad battery live have 90hz on and 5g on. And so do I, I get about 4-5hrs sot in a whole day of usage, between WiFi and 5g .. light gaming, texting, Instagram, Facebook, messenger and some other apps.
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I'm pretty sure people with bad battery live have 90hz on and 5g on. And so do I, I get about 4-5hrs sot in a whole day of usage, between WiFi and 5g .. light gaming, texting, Instagram, Facebook, messenger and some other apps.
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The problem is the 5G modem is pretty much on all the time. Even if not in use. There isn't really any way to actually turn it off. (Unless you get really creative and make your own firmware...)
pantmunu said:
I'm pretty sure people with bad battery live have 90hz on and 5g on. And so do I, I get about 4-5hrs sot in a whole day of usage, between WiFi and 5g .. light gaming, texting, Instagram, Facebook, messenger and some other apps.
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That is actually not entirely true, I have the European variant of McLaren without 5G modem I this is by far the worst SOT I ever experienced on an OnePlus device. And I have had them since the beginning. I can barely scrape up 4h - 4.5h SOT over an 24-48h time period
on a full charge cycle. Note I'm not even on stock kernel so I would expect SOT be up 8-10h without any bigger problems. What I'm trying to make out if my battery is bad or the complete phone, and if that would come to that I would return it to the seller in flash.
Batt stats and kernel logs show active drain between 8-10% per hour and idle drain to 1.5-2.5% per hour. Numbers don't say much to me however active drain seems very high to me. I know that the display consumes a lot for sure but I'm not really sure if this is too high or not.
I'm on FHD+ resolution but with 90Hz refresh rate and adaptive background light. To summarize it all, I'm hugely disappointed with my device in perspective of battery life. Feel free to drop comments or suggestions on what I can do. Perhaps give some figures on idle and active
drain if you have them.
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That is actually not entirely true, I have the European variant of McLaren without 5G modem I this is by far the worst SOT I ever experienced on an OnePlus device. And I have had them since the beginning. I can barely scrape up 4h - 4.5h SOT over an 24-48h time period
on a full charge cycle. Note I'm not even on stock kernel so I would expect SOT be up 8-10h without any bigger problems. What I'm trying to make out if my battery is bad or the complete phone, and if that would come to that I would return it to the seller in flash.
Batt stats and kernel logs show active drain between 8-10% per hour and idle drain to 1.5-2.5% per hour. Numbers don't say much to me however active drain seems very high to me. I know that the display consumes a lot for sure but I'm not really sure if this is too high or not.
I'm on FHD+ resolution but with 90Hz refresh rate and adaptive background light. To summarize it all, I'm hugely disappointed with my device in perspective of battery life. Feel free to drop comments or suggestions on what I can do. Perhaps give some figures on idle and active
drain if you have them.
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Your battery life is pretty normal. Mine is around 5 to 9 hourss it's not the kernal but the rom and screen that uses up the bsttery
Install doze to lower ur idle time.
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The problem is the 5G modem is pretty much on all the time. Even if not in use. There isn't really any way to actually turn it off. (Unless you get really creative and make your own firmware...)
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Did anyone try to select only 2G/3G/4G in Preferred Network type and then check the battery life/ drain?
I got S22 Snapdragon Variant but the battery still sucks and phone heats up much after I have done the following.
1. Followed [GUIDE] [NO-ROOT] Complete Samsung OneUI Optimization
- Most settings applied
- Phone set up without Smart Switch
- Adaptive Battery disabled
2. Installed [App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
- Adaptive Refresh on Power-Saving mode On
- Adaptive Min 10Hz, and Max 120Hz
- Force Lowest Hz on screen-off (10Hz)
2. Installed ®FDE.AI - Ultimate Android Optimizer
- Power-Saving mode
- Force Doze Mode On
- Sensors Off on screen off
- Analyze Apps on screen off
3. S22 Settings
- Sync disabled
- Always-On Display - Tap to show
- NFC, Location, off when not in use
- Power Saving mode 24/7
I am seriously tempted to get a Pixel 5 instead, which I am willing to sacrifice the performance + 120Hz because I'm just another daily user.
Is there a way to underclock Snapdragon 8 Gen 1?
Let us hear your thoughts too. Thanks.
Which s22 model do you have?
Also I felt like I got more battery drain with adaptive battery off so I kept it on but slept all apps except ones i need notifications for
I have the 901e and updated to the Vietnamese firmware avdf running very similar set up to you getting 7 - 9h sot
Try removing that optimiser and using the doze setting in galaxy max hz
Also 96hz works with power saving on
Get galaxy app booster it's with in good guardians (can just download the apks online if you can't find it in the galaxy store) from what I've read it wipes dalvik cache
I'm on S22 SM-910E/DS.
I see... I'll give it a try on your suggestions!
But do you still face quite abit of heat during screen on and using of phone after the tweaks?
Gymcode said:
I'm on S22 SM-910E/DS.
I see... I'll give it a try on your suggestions!
But do you still face quite abit of heat during screen on and using of phone after the tweaks?
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No heat at all, also in battery powersave settings you can limit the CPU to 70% (in case you didn't know already) from what I can see in adb it's on even when powersaving isnt
Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.
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Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not being silly nor lying, I have absolutely no reason too i have nothing to prove or anyone to impress by talking s***, I'd be here doing the same if my battery was rubbish which it was to start with. I don't get any over heating, phone drains roughly 3% over night and barely get any google services wakelocks so you can believe what you want i really dont care what you think I'll chill here happily with a mint running s22 with plenty of sot
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not being silly nor lying, I have absolutely no reason too i have nothing to prove or anyone to impress by talking s***, I'd be here doing the same if my battery was rubbish which it was to start with. I don't get any over heating, phone drains roughly 3% over night and barely get any google services wakelocks so you can believe what you want i really dont care what you think I'll chill here happily with a mint running s22 with plenty of sot
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It's fine. It's like a described it though. A continuous run of usage with with barely any stops or very short ones, will offer better stats. That's "very light" usage. Anyone complaining about battery life is doing a lot more on their phone just like me, the one who created this thread and the majority of S22 owners, with both variants of the phones.
Sorry if I offended you. You wouldn't be able to get the same SOT with our usage though, not even close, especially of you're 100% on cellular data.
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Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.
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Thank you for this. Probably the most honest review about S22's battery. Like you I tried everything under the sun (except the rooting and underclocking). This phone is just disappointing. I could relate to every single line as I read through your post. Weirdly, I'm just happy to know that Im not the only one feeling this way about this "flagship" device.
I'm coming from a very old OnePlus6 which STILL works perfectly fine on a custom Android with close to 4-5 hours of SOT in a full days usage. I charge it only in the night, sometimes it even makes it through the night..
I thought S22 with a higher battery (and NEW) will at least give 6 hours SOT but man was I wrong!!
So initially I used Smart Switch, and I got a terrible SOT of 1-2.
I did factory reset and manually set up the phone and I got about 3 hours of SOT.
I went through the debloating process and now I'm 3-4 hours of SOT.. Still that is so horrible for a flagship!
Its such a let down honestly! I get a flagship and paid so much money and this is such a huge issue! And I hate the font size on the notifications/panel.. it is just not proportional to the overall system font size! And not to forget, the phones takes about 1-1.5 hours to charge. Such a pain when are used to the OnePlus DashCharge which blazes through. Fast Charge on Samsung is such a shame
S22 is seeming to be a mistake. I'm considering swapping this for a Oneplus 10 Pro OR an iPhone 13! You made a similar switch? Looking for advice on fixing this brick of a phone or recommendation on alternate device.
Maybe custom ROMs or Updates in the future will make S22 better?
Edit: I too have a SM-S9010
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Thank you for this. Probably the most honest review about S22's battery. Like you I tried everything under the sun (except the rooting and underclocking). This phone is just disappointing. I could relate to every single line as I read through your post. Weirdly, I'm just happy to know that Im not the only one feeling this way about this "flagship" device.
I'm coming from a very old OnePlus6 which STILL works perfectly fine on a custom Android with close to 4-5 hours of SOT in a full days usage. I charge it only in the night, sometimes it even makes it through the night..
I thought S22 with a higher battery (and NEW) will at least give 6 hours SOT but man was I wrong!!
So initially I used Smart Switch, and I got a terrible SOT of 1-2.
I did factory reset and manually set up the phone and I got about 3 hours of SOT.
I went through the debloating process and now I'm 3-4 hours of SOT.. Still that is so horrible for a flagship!
Its such a let down honestly! I get a flagship and paid so much money and this is such a huge issue! And I hate the font size on the notifications/panel.. it is just not proportional to the overall system font size! And not to forget, the phones takes about 1-1.5 hours to charge. Such a pain when are used to the OnePlus DashCharge which blazes through. Fast Charge on Samsung is such a shame
S22 is seeming to be a mistake. I'm considering swapping this for a Oneplus 10 Pro OR an iPhone 13! You made a similar switch? Looking for advice on fixing this brick of a phone or recommendation on alternate device.
Maybe custom ROMs or Updates in the future will make S22 better?
Edit: I too have a SM-S9010
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I doubt anything will improve things the way we want. Unless we see a complete revamp of how apps use the CPU, which is a deep optimization process, that should done by Google all the way to a system level, things simply cannot improve in such a drastic way. After doing some math, a 1% idle drain or 15-20% active drain is something relatively decent because it's based on the battery inside the phone. The real capacity of the 3700mAh is actually 3590. So it's even worse than it appears. We've got to accept in the end that Samsung ****ed up this year with the smaller phone, despite the sales numbers.
Anyway, I also had a OP6 which I really liked until the software went completely 180 and disappointed me with that insane redesign which went against everything OP started with.
Anyway, back to the S22. I'm not really bothered by the charging speed. However, considering the terrible battery life, a much quicker charging speed was rudimentary to compensate for the other thing. Samsung doesn't give a **** though. So long as business gets better.
The bottom line is, and I reached to this conclusion the hard way cause I can say that I lost a lot of money in market value in the past 3 years, is that in the Android world, if you want a flagship device with very good battery life, you've got to go big. Otherwise you'll be disappointed. On iOS, you can get that with the smaller phones. Choosing the bigger phone in that situation, will get you the best battery life on the entire phone market. Android needs more mAh to compensate for sudden idle drain, services that have seizures out of the blue and the regular active drain due to poor app optimization. The bigger the battery, the more mAh for those unexpected things to eat and the less you'll have to worry about the battery life, as long as it easily gets you through the day. But if you want to keep using a smaller phone, something that actually fits in your pocket, then I'm afraid only Apple can offer you the best. iOS is in a completely different league in terms of optimization. Not to mention how perfectly smooth everything in every corner is. That is the true definition of buttery smooth no matter the action you do and no matter the app you're using. On Android frame drops/stutters are a regular and no matter the phone I used, they've always been there, despite the claims. I guess I've got more sensitive eyes. Even so, on iOS, those frame drops are so rare, that you really get a truly delightful experience 99% of the times. Not to mention that the 120Hz experience on iOS is actually smoother than the 120Hz on Android, if that makes any sense. All the polish the OS receives is very noticeable on that 120Hz panel. The way the OS works is what you need to get used to, the restrictions and so on. If you can get past that, you're good to go.
So if you want to throw away the S22, thing that I wouldn't blame you for, a 13 Pro is what I'd suggest to you, if you wanna keep using a small phone but if you want the best of the best, go with the Max brick version.
I'm personally waiting for the 14 lineup and I'm most confident I'm gonna get the 14 Pro Max. I want to never worry about battery life. For me it's 2 big compromises I have to accept: iOS and the phone size.
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I doubt anything will improve things the way we want. Unless we see a complete revamp of how apps use the CPU, which is a deep optimization process, that should done by Google all the way to a system level, things simply cannot improve in such a drastic way. After doing some math, a 1% idle drain or 15-20% active drain is something relatively decent because it's based on the battery inside the phone. The real capacity of the 3700mAh is actually 3590. So it's even worse than it appears. We've gonna accept in the end that Samsung ****ed up this year with the smaller phone, despite the sales numbers.
Anyway, I also had a OP6 which I really liked until the software went completely 180 and disappointed me with that insane redesign which went against everything OP started with.
Anyway, back to the S22. I'm not really bothered by the charging speed. However, considering the terrible battery life, a much quicker charging speed was rudimentary to compensate for the other thing. Samsung doesn't give a **** though. So long as business gets better.
The bottom line is, and I reached to this conclusion the hard way cause I can say that I lost a lot of money in market value lost in the past 3 years, is that in the Android world, if you want a flagship device with very good battery life, you've got to go big. Otherwise you'll be disappointed. On iOS, you can get that with the smaller phones. Choosing the bigger phone in that situation, will get you the best battery life on the entire phone market. Android needs more mAh to compensate for sudden idle drain, services that have seizures out of the blue and the regular active drain due to poor app optimization. The bigger the battery, the more mAh for those unexpected things to eat and the less you'll have to worry about the battery life as long as it easily gets you through the day. But if you want to keep using a smaller phone, something that actually fits in your pocket, then I'm afraid only Apple can offer you the best. iOS is in a completely different league in terms of optimizations. Not to mention how perfectly smooth everything in every corner is. That is the true definition of buttery smooth no matter the action you do and no matter the app you're using. On Android frame drops/stutters are a regular and no matter the phone I used, they've always been there, despite the claims. I guess I've got more sensitive eyes. Even so, on iOS, those frame drops are so are, that you really get a delightful experience 99% of the times. Not to mention that the 120Hz experience on iOS is actually smoother than 120Hz on Android, if that makes any sense. All the polish the OS receives is very noticeable on that 120Hz panel. The way the OS works is what you need to get used to, the restrictions and so on. If you can get past that, you're good to go.
So if you want to throw away the S22, thing that I wouldn't blame you for, a 13 Pro is what I'd suggest to you, if you wanna keep using a small phone but if you want the best of the best, go with the Max brick version.
I'm personally waiting for the 14 lineup and I'm most confident I'm gonna get the 14 Pro Max. I want to never worry about battery life. For me it's 2 big compromises I have to accept: iOS and the phone size.
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Well, I guess that's what I'm planning to do too. Wait for the next iPhone. Until then I'll keep charging my S22.. and who knows maybe some miracle update from samsung will fix its battery time!
syedtahir16 said:
Well, I guess that's what I'm planning to do too. Wait for the next iPhone. Until then I'll keep charging my S22.. and who knows maybe some miracle update from samsung will fix its battery time!
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Ha Ha! I don't believe in miracles. A company that decides to address the issue by creating a mod or something to replace the back glass with something else that fits a bigger battery inside. That is a miracle to me
Thing is, the more you try to optimize this phone, the worse it gets
This is also the case for the adaptive battery that samsung has put on.
Sure you'll get good sot on any phone if you're locked in an app at low brightness for few hours that just scrolls through or plays videos.
But as soon as you start auto killing running apps and do multitasking with them after that, you'll barely get 2-3 hours sot.
Best I got from the exynos version on this was about 4.5 hours SOT with all settings I need enabled and gw4 conected to it.
But the average days (phone outside on higher brightness) are way below that. Using the doze mode when screen off, fingerprint disabled when screen is off, most of the bloatware /junk apps disabled or put in deep sleeping mode. (no root). I keep my phone at 85% and recharge when Im home/office whenever possible
Iphone really naied this down since the by just freezing the active proceeses for the standby adavantage.
The cpu doesnt really have to do anything when you relaunch them.
Im quite surprised android cannot do the same in 2022
Such a shame, this would've been the perfect compact phone if the software was done right on it.
But where is the $$$ for google/samsung for tracking everything you do ?
No matter what settings you try to disable, the phone constantly scans for gps/wifi/bluetooth devices (google's gms even claims this is for covid purposes in their TOS now)
Thank you everyone for the debate above. Understand that battery differs from one another, it seems that most people probably belongs to the side where the battery is insufficient to last through the day, or barely.
I love this phone so so much, and I got the Graphite model.
I hate to say goodbye, but I'll be going back to Pixel 5, and hoping S24, or whatever, will be a more optimized S22, keeping the compact phone size.
I use a snapdragon gen 1 s22. The battery is not terrible but also not great. An SOT of 3hrs for 3 days standby is what i get with max hz app installed, power saving on, debloated, sync on for two mailboxes. I get more SOT with less standyby time( if i watch youtube videos). I think its a nice balance for a compact phone. I had the pixel 6 before this but it was too heavy and big though the battery was slightly better.
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Thank you everyone for the debate above. Understand that battery differs from one another, it seems that most people probably belongs to the side where the battery is insufficient to last through the day, or barely.
I love this phone so so much, and I got the Graphite model.
I hate to say goodbye, but I'll be going back to Pixel 5, and hoping S24, or whatever, will be a more optimized S22, keeping the compact phone size.
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You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
dragos281993 said:
You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
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Im a pixel fanboy. But recently with the bugs, poor call quality and the random battery drains i chose to move on. I hate the material you in android 12. Atleast i need an option to switch it off. I cant root as i need to use bank apps in my phone.
Here is a screen shot of my s22's battery usage for the past two days.
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You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
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Yup I got one myself now. Only downside is the under display firing top speaker which makes the volume thin and muffled. Other than that, I'm very happy with the phone!
And for god-knows-what reason, Pixel 5 rocks a 4080 mAh battery. Wonder why tf S22 weighs heavier and unable to carry a bigger battery. Bells and whistles, but neglected this basic need of a phone
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Yup I got one myself now. Only downside is the under display firing top speaker which makes the volume thin and muffled. Other than that, I'm very happy with the phone!
And for god-knows-what reason, Pixel 5 rocks a 4080 mAh battery. Wonder why tf S22 weighs heavier and unable to carry a bigger battery. Bells and whistles, but neglected this basic need of a phone
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If im not wrong the pixel 5 is made of aluminum(sides and back) but the S22 is made of glass(back). Thats the reason for the weight difference.
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If im not wrong the pixel 5 is made of aluminum(sides and back) but the S22 is made of glass(back). Thats the reason for the weight difference.
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That is true. But SN8Gen1 is too much to handle for a reduced battery size. I'll go to Samsung shop to see how S22+ feels in the hand, as the battery size is bigger. But for now I'll stick with Pixel 5.