I'm pretty okay with all the rest of this phone, however the earbuds have really disappointed me, so much less than I expected from Motorola, they use to bundle better earbuds with their phones back in the days it was owned by Google (and prior to that).
Now they're shipping the Moto G5 with a pair of plasticky chinese rubbish, of which the only positive point is that it fits correctly into my ears, however all the rest sucks, the sound quality sucks, the build and the design sucks completely, the cord sucks... everything...
I don't know if it's only the Brazilian version, but I can buy a better pair of easbuds for about $5 in any store... I'm pretty sure of that, take a look at it, the most shameless and crappy - and the most chinese too, I suspect - buds I ever had...
Any phone Iv even bought the headphones are not very good quality - remember you are buying a phone not some headphones - if they provide high quality headphones the price of the phone will go up. I don't know about you but I would rather have the money I'm spending invested in the phone & not gimmicks that come with it.
Since this phone has a headphone jack you can buy your own quality headphones to use across all your current and future devices
Mine didn't even come with headphones and I paid like USD 320 for it, so feel lucky about it.
Most of the budget moto phones comes with the crappy headphone you received. I received the same with Moto E4 Plus.
LOL
I really do not know why you people are complaining about. You bought a Phone the headsets are a bonus and this happens with a lot of phones. Ex: The cameras from every phones are a joke when compared with professional cameras.
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Any phone Iv even bought the headphones are not very good quality - remember you are buying a phone not some headphones - if they provide high quality headphones the price of the phone will go up. I don't know about you but I would rather have the money I'm spending invested in the phone & not gimmicks that come with it.
Since this phone has a headphone jack you can buy your own quality headphones to use across all your current and future devices
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What you said is pretty obvious, I already knew that a priori, that is, even if you didn't ever say anything, I would already know it.
It surprises me that nowadays in the internet forums it's like this: you write a post or a rant and someone comes with sideline comments that don't aim at the addressed issue's core. In other words, they answer your question, except for they didn't answer your question. Your comment seems totally irrelevant to the question I asked, seems more like it's attempt on bashing on me?
But maybe you misunderstood my purpose, so let me further clarify the purpose of my question, lest one misunderstands me once again.
I wrote this just because in the past I had other Motorola phones that came with at least regular or good phones, and now they're shipping with this crappy one. It goes all back to the P2K and the EZX eras. I had the Rokr E1, Rokr W5, Rokr E2, Rokr Z6, then the classy Razr V8. Now, this is the first time I buy a brand new Motorola phone in Android times, and having admired the brand for so much time, and having PAID MONEY for it, have you the right to say, be it in the internet, that I'm surprised (not angry or mad about that though :good of how crappy it is that they have included so cheap an accessory with their latest phone, an accessory so cheap that it probably didn't cost them a dollar, one that would have been better not to be included in the pack, IMO.
So point one is: this post is a rant and maybe an opportunity for discussion on the topic, which, as far as I know, are legal modalities in this community.
Point two is just the core of my question, the source of my quenches and doubts, which by the way moved my human nature with the deep necessity to ask other people if they are experiencing the same thing and if they have the same opinion, which by the way is completely legal in this community as well.
So point #2: I wished to know if it was only in Brazil that Motorola were shipping these earbuds, in other words if it was standard practice or not.
Now, as you see, when people ask things they have underlying reasons to do so, even if it - to your very eyes - looks absolutely like they don't.
So take no offense, just as I intend not to take any from you, or from anyone else in the internet. I encourage you to take my sarcasm as cold reasoning, of which the intention is to be a corrective measure, in search of one thing that we have a need for nowadays, that is, politeness in the internet...
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Woah, that I wanted to know.
Where do you live?
(And indeed you paid a bit more than I did on mine, even if not much)
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Most of the budget moto phones comes with the crappy headphone you received. I received the same with Moto E4 Plus.
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Yeah, it feels it is standard practice.
I was going to buy the Lenovo K6, don't know how the healthy and active is the developer's community for that device though.
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I really do not know why you people are complaining about. You bought a Phone the headsets are a bonus and this happens with a lot of phones. Ex: The cameras from every phones are a joke when compared with professional cameras.
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You're answering my question with the same sort of answer the first friend above has done it. Read my answer to his comment then you will understand why I have asked this question.
Goodbye and have a nice day.
Thank you for answering my question
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So point one is: this post is a rant and maybe an opportunity for discussion on the topic, which, as far as I know, are legal modalities in this community.
Point two is just the core of my question, the source of my quenches and doubts, which by the way moved my human nature with the deep necessity to ask other people if they are experiencing the same thing and if they have the same opinion, which by the way is completely legal in this community as well.
So point #2: I wished to know if it was only in Brazil that Motorola were shipping these earbuds, in other words if it was standard practice or not.
Now, as you see, when people ask things they have underlying reasons to do so, even if it - to your very eyes - looks absolutely like they don't.
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Yes these discussions are perfectly fine however discussions really belong in the general section but I understand why you may have posted in the question and answer section
Yes these earphones are shipped with UK models too
In actual fact they are probably better than Samsung headphones which shipped with their galaxy phones as they are an even worse & more uncomfortable plastic
Goes back to my point of companies really just include these for testing purposes - to say here's some headphones so you can check all the phones hardware & functionality works. Because what they don't want is someone saying my headphone jack is faulty & they go well did you test it when you purchased it & the customer goes no I didn't have any headphones. Imagine if this complaint happened months after they bought it. In UK law technically its the retailer that should sort it but its a grey area & alot of hassle - after a year & the warranty is gone you have no chance without paying.
I know all that is a bit extreme but really it's the manufacturer saying well we gave you all the tools to test the product to make sure it works so we can provide a high level of customer service.
They may have been better quality in the past however with rising costs & the manufacturers wanting to keep prices low they look at how they can cut costs & remain competitive whilst keeping a quality product. At the end of the day as I said before you are buying a phone so anything else they can cut back on they will.
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Hello all,
I have my Rhodium(vodaphone TP2, unlocked with stuff) up for sale in the marketplace as I am rocking a HD2 now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670836
It is waiting for a good offer:
I have had people offering me silly cash for this nearly mint device (£100???)
Now I am thinking, is it really worth so little?
Most of the Rhodiums up 4 sale are in the US and around $300. I guess that we have too many phones in the UK available on a free contract.
I want £150 at least for it and need to get rid of it asap.....
Has anyone bought one recently in UK? What did you pay for it?
Is there any hope I might get some cash back on this now unloved device?
Kind regards all //
The HTC Desire has really killed sales of previous generation phones and the inexperienced/new user is now wowed by Android or Iphones.
Many people are also wary of buying second hand phones as one person's description of 'mint' may not be another person's idea (not saying anything at all about your advert here BTW, this is just a general point).
Many people are also frightened by scare stories of buying second hand phones
Branded phones can be a 'put-off' too even though they are only really cosmetic issues (although some people may worry about unlocking etc. and be concerned that it may not work with their sim when it arrives and then can't return it)
The rhodium is a super device, but there is only a very small market for them as only the smallest percentage of the phone buying public is even aware of the phone and then when added to the points above, I am not surprised that you are getting low offers, but I can also understand how disappointing this would be for a seller.
I went through something similar when selling my touch HD as I wanted it to go to someone who would love it as much as I did!
I think you have 2 options here;
Wait for someone who is looking for a rhodium and you can meet up in person (thus negating all the general points above)
Flog it to somewhere like CEX who might give you a decent (ish) price for it;
http://www.cex.co.uk/products/Phone... Touch Pro2, Vodafone Good Condition&mode=buy
Shame you are in London though, as I would have taken a look at this if you had been nearer to sunny Gloucestershire
Best of luck with your sale
Spud
i haven't looked into the prices for a used touch pro 2 but whenever I try to sell something online, i always get "low-ballers" THey email you some excuse that they're a student, just lost their job, just had a baby, etc and are tight on cash and want to only pay a quarter of the price i'm asking.
Its just the way things are, if you need to sell it asap, maybe lower the price a bit, but if i were you, i'd stay firm on your asking price until someone that has the money and knows the value of the device goes ahead an purchases it.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Univ...PFVI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303488484&sr=8-1
I oredered it and it's shipping to my place right now. Have anyone tried this product before?
Just curious
http://www.andybrain.com/2005/cellphone-antenna-booster-sticker-test-and-analysis/
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http://www.andybrain.com/2005/cellphone-antenna-booster-sticker-test-and-analysis/
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Thanks for the link - it confirmed what i suspected all along.
yes these does not work. they been around for years even during the razr v3 days. just for fun we bought a box with hundreds of them for just a couple bucks. we stuck one, two, three, and as much as we can fit on the phone to make contact with the metal, and still nothing. it's a gimmick that probably making them $$thousands.
that does NOT work.
I suspect you've been ripped off AND that Amazon should be notified if this is not a genuine Motorola part, because the title indicates it is made by Motorola, not just made "for" Motorola phones by someone else.
Moto never made that junk, AFAIK.
Now for about $120 you can get a Wilson amplified holder, which contains an active bi-directional booster, an antenna cable, and an exterior antenna for car or other use. Short of that?
No, the phone would need a better antenna, and Moto's engineers would gladly build it with one--but the mass market doesn't like antennas, they like "small".
Sorry... but i don't see anything there about it being an "official Motorola part".
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Holy sh*t. Thanks sooo much for that. I was just about to order them. lol
Ill save my money now.
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Sorry... but i don't see anything there about it being an "official Motorola part".
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And that's the clever way some thieves deceive careless buyers. It says he is selling "MOTOROLA...." and in plain YnGlitch that means parts manufactured by Motorola, not parts which might work on Motorola. The seller is, either by intent or accident, phrasing the ad to make it appear to be selling what it is not: Motorola parts, which is not the same as "stuff that you can jam into a Motorola phone."
The deceipt is almost always intentional, and those patches have been widely debunked as a hoax since they first came out, a dcade ago. I think the seller knows exactly what they are saying and doing, but that's just my personal opinion.
There's a reason the grade schools all used to admiinster reading comprehension tests. And sadly, it is still a skill that most readers lack, so the bottom-feeders take advantage of that.
Actually no... it says "for Motorola cell phone". It doesn't say anything about being manufactured by Motorola. You want to know why Motorola is there? Keywords, my friend. Keywords. You know.... the same thing that causes you to search for something like iPhone 4 on Craigslist, and you get Levi's jeans and Dell laptop's and other crap in the search results, because the person trying to sell something decided to put a whole sh*tload of keywords at the bottom of the article for no reason other than to try to draw attention to something that the person isn't even looking for. Look at the latter part of the product description. They listed damn near every Motorola phone ever made. Someone searches Amazon for say "Motorola Krave", and those signal boosters will pop up somewhere.
Yes.... it's to draw sales.... but not in the way you had expected.
You think the deception is accidental, I think it is intentional. We can agree to disagree, I've seen too many thieves and cons playing innocent about that exact mistake.
You can just as easily load up all the key words AND make it clear that it is not a Motorola product. eBay sellers do that all the time, saying "Made to fit..." or "Made to work with..." so it is clearly not "Made by Motorola" or "Motorola OEM".
The fact that they are selling junk PROVEN repeatedly not to work, should tip you off that they are not just innocents making an innocent mistake. it's a rip-off no matter how you look at it.
Fed up with all the negative posts. I saw the ASUS Transformer forums do the same in the early days of release.
1) I think my Nexus is great - I used to have a Desire. Now I have a phone that I think is MUCH better.
2) Im very happy for anyone who feels their phone is better but will have much more respect for those who compare based on hands on experience. However why KEEP posting on a Nexus forum why you think your phone is better ? Post how great your phone is on its own forum.
3) Im fully aware that there are some bugs. Most of these will be fixed by software updates. Its part of the 'fun' of being an early adopter.
4) Threads about hardware problems are fine and very useful. I havent experienced any myself (yet) and hopefully Samsung will fix/recall/exchange.
5) I know the camera is limited and 'only' 5mp. thats fine. i use my phone for point and shoot. Im old enough to remember the first digital cameras. This camera does me fine.
Regards,
Happy Nexus Owner
(are there any others out there ?)
p.s. I love my Transformer too.
I don't have one yet, but I'm planning on picking one up soon. New devices always bring out the loud-mouth whiners who apparently spend 8+ hours on the board complaining every day. I've got a job...
Anyway, the device looks great. I'm really excited. It will be my first Nexus device (although my wife did have the Nexus S, and I run CM7 on my EVO 4G). It will also be my first GSM device - I'm in the US and switching from Sprint to AT&T. I plan on picking up a European unlocked unit. Sprint's network has gotten really terrible lately. Can't wait for the new toy!
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I don't have one yet, but I'm planning on picking one up soon. New devices always bring out the loud-mouth whiners who apparently spend 8+ hours on the board complaining every day. I've got a job...
Anyway, the device looks great. I'm really excited. It will be my first Nexus device (although my wife did have the Nexus S, and I run CM7 on my EVO 4G). It will also be my first GSM device - I'm in the US and switching from Sprint to AT&T. I plan on picking up a European unlocked unit. Sprint's network has gotten really terrible lately. Can't wait for the new toy!
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im sure you will love it
how about we start posting some good things about the nexus and ics.
Taking the basics for granted i found today all the app/data stats.
Data Usage - then click on an app.... lovely pie charts and fun stuff ! nice touch
Nice to see a positive post for a change, looking forward to getting my nexus.
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I don't have one yet, but I'm planning on picking one up soon. New devices always bring out the loud-mouth whiners who apparently spend 8+ hours on the board complaining every day. I've got a job...
Anyway, the device looks great. I'm really excited. It will be my first Nexus device (although my wife did have the Nexus S, and I run CM7 on my EVO 4G). It will also be my first GSM device - I'm in the US and switching from Sprint to AT&T. I plan on picking up a European unlocked unit. Sprint's network has gotten really terrible lately. Can't wait for the new toy!
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Where are you ordering yours from? I'm also on AT&T and looking to buy an unlocked gsm version from the UK. I've found: https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9250-google-galaxy-nexus-black-unlocked.html and http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...xus-16gb--sim-free-unlocked--titanium-silver-
Handtec appears to be cheaper (after converting), but they aren't including the VAT charge in the price... so it may end up being more expensive.
other than the volume / 900MHz interference issue, I am really happy with this phone. It's just a shame that this issue is tainting the experience for me.
I love the screen, it's easily the best screen I've had on a mobile phone, Android 4.0 is great, along with all the updated Google Apps.
Google+ still cannot do notifications properly though...Google need to sort that one out!
But I am happy with the phone (albeit for the 900MHz problem)
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Handtec appears to be cheaper (after converting), but they aren't including the VAT charge in the price... so it may end up being more expensive.
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VAT doesn't apply if you are shipping to the US. Ordered mine from there for AT&T and it was about $700 or so after shipping
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Where are you ordering yours from? I'm also on AT&T and looking to buy an unlocked gsm version from the UK. I've found: https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9250-google-galaxy-nexus-black-unlocked.html and http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...xus-16gb--sim-free-unlocked--titanium-silver-
Handtec appears to be cheaper (after converting), but they aren't including the VAT charge in the price... so it may end up being more expensive.
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You don't pay VAT when you import to the US. Negri is just seriously more expensive for some reason (most of their devices are more expensive).
Clove and Handtec both have phones (and all indications are they're reputable). I believe Handtec is holding shipments because they're aware of the volume bug. Check out the specific threads for the Clove and Handtec orders. Lots of info in there.
just posted a thread on the accessories about a great cheap case/cover ... order it in advance to keep your new purchase shiny
Next thing I like about my Nexus .... speed to pick up GPS !!! Ive even had some degree of luck sat in my office where it must be getting some info through a distant window
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You don't pay VAT when you import to the US. Negri is just seriously more expensive for some reason (most of their devices are more expensive).
Clove and Handtec both have phones (and all indications are they're reputable). I believe Handtec is holding shipments because they're aware of the volume bug. Check out the specific threads for the Clove and Handtec orders. Lots of info in there.
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Good to know on the VAT charge... I guess I'll be ordering from Handtec, or possibly Clove.
One thing I am loving is in the developers section you can change the animation speeds. Gives a great different feel to the phone.
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Fed up with all the negative posts...
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Believe it or not they're helpful. Yes, some lack detail and could be considered petty, repetitive or both, but I'm a big boy and can sift through banal chatter to glean some good comparitive information. And while everyone knows what the specs are in advance, actual comments on real-world performance are helpful. For example, I could give two craps about 5 vs. 8 megapixels in the camera but I do want to know how well it takes pictures and videos. And to say "you knew it was 5 megapixels before you bought it" every time someone posts their camera experience is a stupid and biased comment. If the forum were limited to nothing but happy posts it would simply be a club for fanboys.
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Believe it or not they're helpful. Yes, some lack detail and could be considered petty, repetitive or both, but I'm a big boy and can sift through banal chatter to glean some good comparitive information. And while everyone knows what the specs are in advance, actual comments on real-world performance are helpful. For example, I could give two craps about 5 vs. 8 megapixels in the camera but I do want to know how well it takes pictures and videos. And to say "you knew it was 5 megapixels before you bought it" every time someone posts their camera experience is a stupid and biased comment. If the forum were limited to nothing but happy posts it would simply be a club for fanboys.
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erm.... i think you missed my point.....
I have no problem with negative posts. But .... if you were coming onto this forum to investigate a phone you would read:
1) Posts about hardware problems (useful)
2) Problems about software faults (useful - but ICS not Nexus)
3) People stating why they think their phone is better (inevitable)
You dont tend to find many posts praising the phone which i dont think provides a fair comparison. You dont get many people starting threads saying 'i have no issues'.
Im quite able to sift through what i do and dont want to read.
This thread was just to state that there are a lot of people (hopefully) who are pleased with their purchase and to state some of the good things about the phone.
Maybe some people investigating the Nexus will be able to see that its not all doom and gloom .... its a great phone
We are living in exciting times, the things these handsets can do we could only dream about just a few years ago. Bug or no bug I just love this device. Great performance, great display, just Android on another level. I trust Samsung will sort these issues out overtime, be it with new software or replacement hardware. In the meantime I'll enjoy my Galaxy Nexus.
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We are living in exciting times, the things these handsets can do we could only dream about just a few years ago. Bug or no bug I just love this device. Great performance, great display, just Android on another level. I trust Samsung will sort these issues out overtime, be it with new software or replacement hardware. In the meantime I'll enjoy my Galaxy Nexus.
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Compared with the analogue Nokia i had 18 years ago things have moved on significantly
Ok so most of us has had our pixels for a few weeks now, do you think it's worth $900. Honest answers please.....
Absolutely. It has everything I want in a phone and has the exact form factor I want it in(I hate edge display and am not a fan of bezel-less deisgns from day to day use). I'm getting a minimum of 3 years of OS updates, 3 years of monthly security updates, chat or phone call support, and unlimited full resolution photo uploads. It's going to take something really magical to come out for me to switch to another device. I thought the 6P would fit the bill for a long term device for me, but that S10 was a throttling POS. Thought the original Pixel would have been a long term phone, but I REALLY missed front facing stereo speakers. Any other phones out there will not be supported over 3 years and I refuse to get burned by a company that drops support on their products again. Is this device perfect out of the box.....no. Then again not one phone is. Most of the issues reported are not anything I notice in day to day use or I have remedied myself( for example using the original Pixel cable for Android Auto stopped the crashes). I love it.
The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.
Hardware worth the value? Absolutely not,
but Software worth the value, Yes as @AndrasLOHF said. I agree especially with front-facing speaker. Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, Unlimited photo storage etc. I have one so I can run stock latest android software this year, and the camera.
as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
Absolutely for me especially with the trade in... which makes it a more reasonable price!
Like front ? ?, Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, and unlimited photo storage...
Yes, I think it is worth the asking price... For me it's the only natural progression from my 6P (personally, the best phone I've owned) which includes 3 years of updates /upgrades..
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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now
Nope, but it's worth $575 which is what I'll cost me after getting $425 back from T-Mobile
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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason I went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now lol. Oh well I have both now I'm ?
Probably not worth $900. None of the phones out are. They all do what your last phone did. Every phone discounts soon after launch. The early adopters pay the high amounts. Samsung BOGO, or savings off the note 8 if you had a note 7. Essential discounted after release. Lg discounted after release. Pixel 2 $375 just to bring it Tmobile. Just wait a month once the phone you want comes out. Tough I know but some of the pixel 2 are already cheaper on swappa then the Google store.
Lucky for me I found a guy selling the pixel 2 xl on craigslist for $700 but I offered him $500 and he text me back a day later asking for $550 ?. Been loving it ever since, currently got my essential phone on eBay and it's up to $450 with a day to go.
Is it worth 900? Everything inside of me says NO however I bought the thing, I love it and I would buy it again if I broke or lost this phone. So I guess money speaks louder than words in this scenario. The software just blows everything else out of the water. Id love to have the Iphone Xs 4k @ 60fps, The LG V30's SD card slot, headphone jack and quad dac but I would still pick the pixel 2 XL over any of those due to the overall experience.
In Switzerland it's 1 109 Dollar, very expensive but i love it so far
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The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.
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+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.
It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.
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+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.
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I think that quality control problems are massively overblown.
Mine, for the record, is flawless. Have NOT done any exchange.
I think that there are two things that are contributing to people's perceptions being skewed on these (which isn't to say that there aren't a few that are genuinely defective).
1) It is a little bit weird when you suddenly find yourself looking through a circular polarization filter. It does cause a slight color shift at hard angles.. but that's the nature of having a circular polarization filter, which is a tradeoff for people who wear polarized glasses so that they can actually see it at all orientations. I suspect that people who do a few trade-ins eventually get used to the effect, which is why their final replacement is probably not as "bad" as the first one. I know that I've gotten so used to it now that I have to intentionally look for it now... oh yeah, that's what it does!
2) The application drawer has a very slight transparency to it. That means that you can see the image behind it very slightly -- and it looks like burn-in.
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It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
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You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.
I picked up a Pixel 2 XL during Verizon's $300 off promotion. I also have a Note 8 to compare it to. I don't think any phone, especially the iPhone X, is worth $900-1000. A more reasonable amount would be $600-700 and payment plans play a big role in the upped prices this year. The OnePlus 5T at $300+ less than other flagships with similar specs, also makes you wonder. The Note 8 does feel more premium than the Pixel 2 XL, but the software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is the best I've ever seen.
A good indication of where thing are heading is that one can get a brand new LG G5 for $230, an S7 for $400, or an S8 for $575. Getting last year's models or waiting until a phone has been out 6 months is especially cost effective.
You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact..
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No.
I did not want a Samsung or LG anymore, I wanted something with good developer support.
So when I changed my contract I could get a new phone. Samsung and LG were out, OnePlus was not available at T-Mobile Germany. The Nokia 8 has a locked bootloader. So the choice was between the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL. The OnePlus 5T without contract was more expensive than the Pixels with contract.
So I shelled out €400, what else should I have done?
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.
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I hope so, so far I haven't managed to get Bluetooth audio playback working in my car.
It's worth the 765 I paid, plus the trade in for my P XL makes it a reasonable enough upgrade at 350.
Hi guys,
I am a Xiaomi fan for 2 years. I think about buying the upcoming Redmi note 5 pro but I just saw a guy selling a 32GB - Google Pixel XL with same price (without any accessories like adapter or cable). I think I should come here and ask for you guys opinion about this device. Should I choose this phone for next 2 years of usage?.
Thank you
tungthanh500 said:
Hi guys,
I am a Xiaomi fan for 2 years. I think about buying the upcoming Redmi note 5 pro but I just saw a guy selling a 32GB - Google Pixel XL with same price (without any accessories like adapter or cable). I think I should come here and ask for you guys opinion about this device. Should I choose this phone for next 2 years of usage?.
Thank you
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It is all based on opinion. If you are the type that wants the latest version of Android especially as P is out in dev preview then I would suggest the Pixel XL.
I would say no. The phones have hardware problems and google doesn't give a crap unless you are within their warranty period. My phone went into a bootloop on its own just a month after the warranty went up and google could care less. They pond you off to a third party repair shop. I can't tell you the number of times I was on the phone and how disgusted I was with the entire situation. I wish I never bought this phone.
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I would say no. The phones have hardware problems and google doesn't give a crap unless you are within their warranty period. My phone went into a bootloop on its own just a month after the warranty went up and google could care less. They pond you off to a third party repair shop. I can't tell you the number of times I was on the phone and how disgusted I was with the entire situation. I wish I never bought this phone.
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Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
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blitzkriegoutlaw said:
I would say no. The phones have hardware problems and google doesn't give a crap unless you are within their warranty period. My phone went into a bootloop on its own just a month after the warranty went up and google could care less. They pond you off to a third party repair shop. I can't tell you the number of times I was on the phone and how disgusted I was with the entire situation. I wish I never bought this phone.
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Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
kboya said:
Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
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Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
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Isn't android just android. The software is the same and only the hardware and how long it last is what makes a difference. I bought a pixel phone because I thought it would be quality. Google charges a premium price compared to other vendors. Google extended the warranty on pixel 2 because they knew their phones have numerous hardware issues. Just know that your phone may be an expensive brick any time after the warranty period. Their phones are not reliable. If you do buy one make sure to unlock the bootloader immediately so you can fix issues that come along.
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Google phones are maturing.. They just now got away from the generic plastic phones with crap hardware. Give them sometime to get it together.
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Isn't android just android. The software is the same and only the hardware and how long it last is what makes a difference. I bought a pixel phone because I thought it would be quality. Google charges a premium price compared to other vendors. Google extended the warranty on pixel 2 because they knew their phones have numerous hardware issues. Just know that your phone may be an expensive brick any time after the warranty period. Their phones are not reliable. If you do buy one make sure to unlock the bootloader immediately so you can fix issues that come along.
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No, android isn't just android (eg stock PXL android is different from aosp). My PXL is perfectly reliable as are most others, it's a pity that some people experience issues.
Everyone should do some research before buying a phone. Even a brief glance at reviews (including prerelease) tells you that the PXL is not the highest quality, most premium HW, but the SW is the standout (eg camera).
I say yes, best phone I ever had. Easy to fix a boot loop and easy to update. Great battery life. Easy to root with Magisk. If you come accross a good deal, buy it.