Its been 1 week since i bought my s9, and it's buttons started to wiggle a bit. Is it normal?
I used the case that comes with in the box.
You must have gotten a special package or deal from Samsung, because most people around the world do not get cases included with the phone. I mean, look at the S9 box and how it is packed; everything is very densely fit in the packaging. There's no room to add a case.
On my S9+ the buttons do also wiggle a tiny bit. Not so much that you'd ever be able to actually see them wiggling, but just when I slide a finger over the volume button or power button, I can feel them shift a tiny amount under my finger. It doesn't worry me though; there's another button underneath the button we see in the casing that actually activates the function; what you're feeling (probably) is just the tiny gap between the case button, and the functional button under it.
I mean, is this your first smartphone? This wiggle I'm feeling on the S9 is the same as what I felt on my S8 and S7. But perhaps you're coming from another phone creator that has slightly different feeling buttons.
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I've had my Motorola Defy for ~3,5 months now and I'm happy with it exept some quality issues.
The battery seems to fit very bad and is wobbling when moving the phone quickly.
The volume buttons are also making sounds seems to be bad fitted as well.
It doesn't exactly scream quality over my unit, and my question is:
Is my Defy defect, and should be replaced? Or is this something they can get away with?
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No it's not defective. They all do that. I put a little piece of foam under the one corner of the battery to stop the wiggle. The volume rocker is just a plastic piece between the case and the actual buttons that are underneath. The real buttons are sealed for water resistance, so the plastic button that you press will wiggle a bit because it's not really attached to anything, but rather it floats there.
My battery wobbles about, fixxed it by jamming a slightly folded piece of paper between the chassis of the phone and the battery at the top near the camera.
My volume keys are also wobbly so to speak, but I havent found a fix.
Im not bothered about getting exchanged either, its too much hassle.
My battery doesn't wobble. My volume keys don't rattle. Today is 7/11 you should be lucky otherwise.
yeah, my battery wobbles too, and i too put a piece of paper between the battery and the case never had any problems with the volume rocker though...
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Thanks for your replies guys. It seems like this behaviour is standard on the Defy. Which is a shame. The quality feeling over it is completely blown away and makes me really sad to know what an excellent phone it could've been (Without having to McGuywer things).
Well, will have to think about returning it or not. I really want to have a non-wobbling phone when I've paid several hundred dollars for it.
Thanks again.
A little wobbling is okay, and sometimes desirable, you have to take into account the thermal expansion characteristics of different materials.
If everything fits "too well", it's more easy to break under extreme temperature.
Designing a key that has little to no wobble is very difficult if you consider that there are variations in every part that make up the design. There's the variation of the tactile switch under the key, variation in the placement of the switch itself on the circuit board, variation in the injection molded plastic housing, variation in the injection molded plastic key that you interact with on the housing.
If you were to design without considering all the possible combinations of the parts with different variations, you can end up with 2 scenarios
1. The keys are so tight that they actuate the tact switch permanently without you having to press on them.
2. The keys are so loose that even when you press down hard, they don't come in contact with the tact switches on the circuit board, and you don't have any function.
Functionality is always top priority. Wobbly keys are the side-effects of manufacturing variations, and we'll just have to live with them. Out of 1000 products, you may get 1 where every part seems to fall into the right combination, and you get the perfect fit. If so, you're damn lucky. On the other hand, you may also get 1 where every part seems to fall into the wrong combination to make a super wobbly key, but the design would have taken into account that it would remain functional. If so, you're unlucky, but it's not considered a defect because it still functions when you press it.
I've been holding off buying the S III for some time in hopes of something better, but nothing has come along so I finally bit the bullet. I bought a new white one off ebay for $450, which is on the cheaper side. It came with a rather deep scratch on the bottom right on the chrome, but frankly its hard to notice and the rest of the phone seems to work fine. Wanted to ask a few questions and make a few comments.
1. Screen is the best AMOLED screen period. The lack of reflection and infinite viewing angles puts it head and shoulders above all phone IPS screens I've used. Also on a completely different level to the beta AMOLED screens Samsung was churning out. None of the pixelation, dithering, artifacts, lines, blotches, and crap from the S II or the Note. It doesn't turn to crap when I dim the screen, and looks very nice and even like that. The saturation has been toned down as well and looks better. However, I wish the greens were not so BLUE and the skin tones were less ghastly red/yellow/orange.
2. My volume keys are firm and clicky, but my power button is kind of loose. Will it deteriorate over time?
3. The battery cover is still a horrible design. My left side snaps into place completely, but there is a gap that you can put a fingernail and also feel the seam and slight hump since its not flush. This is normal for Samsung right? My Note also had a battery cover problem. It would ot snap in, and I had to jam it in at a very sharp angle and bend the cover back heavily. At least that was flush. This one is not. Also noticed looseness on the top corners with the S3, especially when you move the phone around or hold it in landscape and either push the corners a bit or hold onto them. I think this is endemic to the S3 since all the display phones at my local store had the same problem, along with the entire cover being taped up since they were coming off of course.
4. The home button is hard to press. I also noticed this on the demo models. Why couldn't it be more like the iPhone's button? The amount of force required to push it, its location at the very end of the phone, and the lightweight nature of the phone means I have to hold the phone firmly down or the entire thing just might bounce out of my hand. I usually have to hold the bottom underneath the button and pinch down with my thumb. That's not very satisfying either, since I am also pushing up into a looser part of the back cover and it flexes a bit, especially since there's that hole where the microUSB plugs into. I try to avoid using the home button and use back all the way if possible.
5. The phone is fast, but not blazingly fast or smooth. It's better than my old One X. Still far from the smoothness of a Windows Phone device. Hopefully Jelly Bean will help a lot.
6. They need to disable the capacitive keys during camera mode. I always end up pushing one or both of them and exiting the camera or getting edit popups. Same problem I had on the Note.
7. Phone looks and feels a million times better without the rim sticking out above the glass surface. It's more prone to damage, but I'll take the look and unimpeded finger swiips any day.
8. The Note had a much much better speaker. The S3 sounds like an S2 without the back cover helping muffle it.
katamari201 said:
I've been holding off buying the S III for some time in hopes of something better, but nothing has come along so I finally bit the bullet. I bought a new white one off ebay for $450, which is on the cheaper side. It came with a rather deep scratch on the bottom right on the chrome, but frankly its hard to notice and the rest of the phone seems to work fine. Wanted to ask a few questions and make a few comments.
1. Screen is the best AMOLED screen period. The lack of reflection and infinite viewing angles puts it head and shoulders above all phone IPS screens I've used. Also on a completely different level to the beta AMOLED screens Samsung was churning out. None of the pixelation, dithering, artifacts, lines, blotches, and crap from the S II or the Note. It doesn't turn to crap when I dim the screen, and looks very nice and even like that. The saturation has been toned down as well and looks better. However, I wish the greens were not so BLUE and the skin tones were less ghastly red/yellow/orange.
2. My volume keys are firm and clicky, but my power button is kind of loose. Will it deteriorate over time?
3. The battery cover is still a horrible design. My left side snaps into place completely, but there is a gap that you can put a fingernail and also feel the seam and slight hump since its not flush. This is normal for Samsung right? My Note also had a battery cover problem. It would ot snap in, and I had to jam it in at a very sharp angle and bend the cover back heavily. At least that was flush. This one is not. Also noticed looseness on the top corners with the S3, especially when you move the phone around or hold it in landscape and either push the corners a bit or hold onto them. I think this is endemic to the S3 since all the display phones at my local store had the same problem, along with the entire cover being taped up since they were coming off of course.
4. The home button is hard to press. I also noticed this on the demo models. Why couldn't it be more like the iPhone's button? The amount of force required to push it, its location at the very end of the phone, and the lightweight nature of the phone means I have to hold the phone firmly down or the entire thing just might bounce out of my hand. I usually have to hold the bottom underneath the button and pinch down with my thumb. That's not very satisfying either, since I am also pushing up into a looser part of the back cover and it flexes a bit, especially since there's that hole where the microUSB plugs into. I try to avoid using the home button and use back all the way if possible.
5. The phone is fast, but not blazingly fast or smooth. It's better than my old One X. Still far from the smoothness of a Windows Phone device. Hopefully Jelly Bean will help a lot.
6. They need to disable the capacitive keys during camera mode. I always end up pushing one or both of them and exiting the camera or getting edit popups. Same problem I had on the Note.
7. Phone looks and feels a million times better without the rim sticking out above the glass surface. It's more prone to damage, but I'll take the look and unimpeded finger swiips any day.
8. The Note had a much much better speaker. The S3 sounds like an S2 without the back cover helping muffle it.
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1. There is a setting in display settings to adj screen tone. See if that helps.
2. Some have reported this, but mine is fine. Not loose at all.
3. The battery cover while flimsy i agree, should snap on with ease. No raised or humped section, no gap for a fingernail... almost sounds like yours took a nasty fall or other impact... it should fit just fine with no blemishes.
4. Home isnt hard to push. Agree though that it couldve been implemented much better.
5. Imho, this thing screams. Never had any problems with lag or not being smooth and speedy. Top of the line if you ask me.
8. Speakers fine for me, for what it is. I never expect the external speaker to be super high quality.
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On the screen issue, have you gone out to broad daylight and trying to see the screen? Its tough. I still prefer IPS screens.
The home button is hard to press. Being accustomed to only capacitive buttons, the home button is tough to press. Even more so with my ballistics case.
The back is plastics but it gets the job done
The power button is sturdy and fine on my end
I agree with the camera button.
I also got mine from eBay about a month ago for 469 and although it was used, it was kept and very good condition. All I have is a small line on the gray part of the phone by the volume button that only extends about 2 mm. Sometimes I forget its there. The screen is my biggest letdown. Coming from 2 LG devices, the IPS screen is the best screens in my opinion. Natural colors, awesome brightness. This one is good I enjoy it but its not great.
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Hey man.. Cool thing you got an s3 but if I was you, I would of waited til tomorrow for the nexus 4 and paid 100$ less.
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Crisisx1 said:
Hey man.. Cool thing you got an s3 but if I was you, I would of waited til tomorrow for the nexus 4 and paid 100$ less.
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I played with an Optimus G in-store, basically a Nexus 4. Did not like it AT ALL. The glass was icky. Was not impressed by the display. It was washed out looking. This is in comparison to the One X and iPhone, not just AMOLED.
IPS is better outdoors and at max brightness. However, indoors at low brightness the contrast looks way better on the AMOLED screen of the GS3.
Oh man the 5" HTC Droid DNA is coming out. If it can be unlocked for GSM networks, I'm itching the jump again...haha I had the Note two months ago too.
I'm getting buyers remorse from the build quality. Just holding or moving the phone around and taking it out of my pocket, there's always a creak or a flex from the loose back cover. The phone is kinda slippery and clammy, not much to hold on to, and the jiggly power button. I said I would never buy another Samsung phone because of build, but here I am again...a sucker for the screen!
3. My battery cover is perfectly flush. I have pulled it off to change sd cards and once when initially rooting.. I simply put it in place and smoothly press the edges while moving around the whole phone.. all click in, flush
5. check to see if Power saving mode is on, and if cpu saving is on in power saving ... if it is, chances are your phone is only hitting 1GHz
when power saving is off (via the handy toggle in the notification shade dropdown), phone is allowed to hit full 1.5 GHz
another reason for some speed loss is the samsung touchwiz environment.. beautiful, but a bit heavy
jellybean from a google/nexus base IS faster, but mainly cuz it is more bare
cheers!
Samsung Galaxy S3, 16GB, pebble blue
rooted, running jellybean 4.1.1 on touchwiz-based Xquizit xD rom
Hi,
I have just bought a Pixel C tablet. At first sight, the tablet was really sturdy.
However, when I tested the tablet a little bit more thorough, I experienced some problems with the housing and I was wondering if the rest of you have the same issues.
When holding the tablet in landscape mode:
-You can press in the housing around the upper left corner
-You can press in the housing around the front cam
-You can press in the housing beween the left side and the center and bottom and the center
I find this really disappointing. Can anybody confirm this or am I the only one with these issues.
Mine does the same on the left around the middle of the screen emitting an audible click.
I don't have these issues. However the middle of my screen has a bit of flex when pressing hard.
Yep, brand new Pixel C from google, just got it today. If I press in just below or on the camera, you can hear some clicking. Like glue sticking. Can see that becoming annoying as you hold the right side, since it makes the noise every time. Other than screen issues, the rest appears to be solid. But when you get to a high price point such as this, you can only ignore so much.
Hi! I would like to ask everyone if you got a home button that is not level, that is somewhat slight depressed towards the Left or Right Side? Mine is just like that, though the full-function of the home button is not affected. I noticed that you can actually apply a bit of pressure and the home button will actually move. And there are times that the home button would feel like it wiggle but only very slightly, which is strange to me.
Am I alone or does anyone have the same issue?
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Hi! I would like to ask everyone if you got a home button that is not level, that is somewhat slight depressed towards the Left or Right Side? Mine is just like that, though the full-function of the home button is not affected. I noticed that you can actually apply a bit of pressure and the home button will actually move. And there are times that the home button would feel like it wiggle but only very slightly, which is strange to me.
Am I alone or does anyone have the same issue?
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Not alone. I feel it randomly as well.
Mine is slightly lower on the right side and if you look at it side on and press it with a nail the whole button depresses. Maybe it was originally designed to press?
I have this as well, I didn't bother RMA'ing my phone as it doesn't bother me almost at all.
No, it's not designed to "press"..
It's happening because either the left or the right side of your glass around the button isn't seating properly to the frame.
Look closely at the button and clamp the glass down against the frame. See how the gap get's smaller?
The way the button is secured in place is the rear of it resting against the internal frame and with the glass on top locking it down in place.
8:45 onwards for the innards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQ3nRAaafM
Edit: And if you clamp the glass down, when you release the pressure the glass rises back up again slightly and so does the button thanks to the small amount of adhesive around it. Now the button appears to be level, well it is level with the glass but when you press the button it's going to "fall" back down to the place it belongs: against the frame and appears to not be level but it's the glass that's not level.
What do?
a) deal with it
b) RMA and hope the replacement is better
lagittaja said:
I have this as well, I didn't bother RMA'ing my phone as it doesn't bother me almost at all.
No, it's not designed to "press"..
It's happening because either the left or the right side of your glass around the button isn't seating properly to the frame.
Look closely at the button and clamp the glass down against the frame. See how the gap get's smaller?
The way the button is secured in place is the rear of it resting against the internal frame and with the glass on top locking it down in place.
8:45 onwards for the innards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQ3nRAaafM
Edit: And if you clamp the glass down, when you release the pressure the glass rises back up again slightly and so does the button thanks to the small amount of adhesive around it. Now the button appears to be level, well it is level with the glass but when you press the button it's going to "fall" back down to the place it belongs: against the frame and appears to not be level but it's the glass that's not level.
What do?
a) deal with it
b) RMA and hope the replacement is better
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Ok. So what about it moving/wiggling so slightly at times? I tried leveling the button by applying a little bit of pressure on the other side but it quickly returns back to it's original place, which is slightly depressed towards the right side.
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So yeah... Why on Earth are some of these case manufacturers giving us a cut out hole for the back panel release button? Y'know, on the right side of the device. It makes NO SENSE. I saw the same thing when I had the LG G5 (for about a month). Obviously if the case is on the phone, you won't be able to eject anything like the back panel on the V20 (or the bottom chin for the G5).
This for example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LOWZ21Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_DbjzybFRJY4QS
See the hole on the right side? It's totally pointless! I'm just having a rant here...
I was thinking the same thing when I was looking at cases. Makes no sense.
It has to do with the case manufacturers getting renders or measurements /specs of the phone before it was actually released. They weren't told what the button was for so they made the cases with the idea that the button needed to be accessible.
No one knew what that button was for until the phone released. Lots of speculation about it. Personally I hoped it was a shutter button for the camera.
Anywho... It seems that anyone who made the case prerelease included access to that button and they are still selling through that initial stock. I guess they don't want to lose the money by starting over...