I know I'm a little behind here and that the S8 is a year old, but I have an S8+ coming and wanted to know what to expect. I see there aren't really any ROMs for it, but is root even possible? I'm not too worried about it because I'm coming from a Verizon Note 5 that I used for over a year without root. Would just be nice to have so I can go back to using my root apps. Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Hi,
Seems this phone is dead for Verizon users as the boot-loader is locked so you get official update to Android 8.0 and not 8.1 but hopefully in the coming month or so.. Samsung is known to be late so
There is root if you have BL versions 1, 2, or 3. Check the S8+ forum for ROMs. Also see the S8+ Verizon forum for ROMs. There are some custom (stock based) ROMs and the ability to install and use Safestrap on unrooted versions. Safestrap use is currently pretty limited. If you have a version 4 bootloader no-one has figured out how to root yet as far as I know, but there is some work being done. It is true that the bootloader is not unlocked so the options are limited.
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I have researched and looked but can't seem to find a definitive answer. How does the Note 4 DE get updated to the next version of Android? For example, I order the Note 4 DE today with 4.4.4. What happens when 5.x.x comes out. How does that phone get the update. I have been told by Samsung that the wireless carrier is going to put out the update; however I know better than that as the boot loader will get locked. I have read were Samsung Kies is used to update also. I have read (on xda) that Samsung has and probably will never send out an update for a DE device. I am looking to keep the UDP with Verizon so I have to pay full price when getting a DE device or retail. Thanks.
If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
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So, OTA updates will not lock the boot loader on the Developer Edition Note 4. I was going to wait until 5.x.x came out for the note 4 so I could buy the note 4 DE with it already on it. That apparently is not necessary because the OTA updates will not lock the boot loader and the DE units will get 5.x.x when the retail one does through OTA... correct?
P.S - I am planning on tinkering around with Rom's once I get all the research done and know what I am doing. The last time I messed around with the phone was when I had the HTC Thunderbolt. Thanks for the quick reply.
Nemo Aeternamn said:
If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
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Where to start...first, there no such thing as "stock and locked" on a developer edition. It is unrooted, but the bootloader is unlocked out of the box. Secondly past developer edition phones did not get updates and even if one happened to appear, I would be very cautious about taking it as you definitely do not know that it "will not lock your phone". Developer edition phones were designed for developers and as such the expectation is that the user is knowledge and can handle tweaking and updating on their own. Do not expect an OTA update.
As for how the DE will get 5.0, that will be up to a creative developer somewhere to put out a ROM that can be flashed in custom recovery. Some work has been done on CM 12 so we shall see.
Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!
AMG32man said:
Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!
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No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.
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No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.
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i agree i need xposed right now. i missed xposed bad on my nexus 6. note on 4.4.4 with xposed is great for me right now
Hi all,
Just got my new Note 4. Have not taken any OTA updates so I am on 4.4.4 Android.
Whats next to root, debloat, and install a custom rom? Who's got the best minimalist type rom out right now? From what I've read it doesn't seem like there is much out there for 5.0 - just didn't know what the process was for this earlier version still, and how to make the update nag screen go away, or if there were any distinct advantages/disadvantages to upgrading.
Do you have the retail or developer edition?
Currently the retail edition only has temporary root which goes away after reboot. The devs are currently working on permanent root.
The developer edition has permanent root and has the ability to have custom Roms
I bought a retail version from the Verizon store, I didn't know there were differences actually? This makes me kind of sad now.
No known root method even for the older un OTA updated setup? Thats very unfortunate...
There is is a root method for the 4.4.4 kitkat. It's just temporary at the moment.
Like I mentioned, the developers are working on making it permanent right now.
droidx2.3.3 said:
There is is a root method for the 4.4.4 kitkat. It's just temporary at the moment.
Like I mentioned, the developers are working on making it permanent right now.
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Thanks - looks like I'm just sitting tight for now then, I'll check back in a few days.
You can still try the temp heres the link kingroot.net/root
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Is safestrap a viable option since everything is so locked down on this device? I remember when I bought the s4 for Verizon, safestrap was my only saving grace. Will delete if this question has been answered. I can't find it anywhere though. Also, what are the chances of root actually being obtained because everything seems pretty grim to me. I can't even find any discussion on anyone even attempting to get root for 928a. Thanks much!:good:
Root, as for this phone, G928A, is slim to none. With the updates that fixed the Stagefright exploit, it's very doubtful. Safestrap will only work if there's Stable root (not temp root - like on Note 4, for example).
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Maxninja said:
Root, as for this phone, G928A, is slim to none. With the updates that fixed the Stagefright exploit, it's very doubtful. Safestrap will only work if there's Stable root (not temp root - like on Note 4, for example).
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My only question left then is how did the at&t and verzion galaxy s6 variants obtain root? Stagefright exploit is still unfixed or did someone discover a new exploit?
They were on kitkat and able to get an exploit to work to have root. For further details, go to the forum and take a look
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They were on kitkat and able to get an exploit to work to have root. For further details, go to the forum and take a look
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AT&T S6 and S6 edge both were shipped with Lollipop 5.0.1 and I have root for mine and my wife phone.
Hi everyone, hope you're having an amazing day!
I was wondering if there is a root available for the SM-N910V running 5.0.1. I've looked on google, and there are lots of yes, and no answers. Could someone help clear this up for me?
Thanks!
There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.
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There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.
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Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!
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Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!
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Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.
tonycstech said:
Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.
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Actually, requesting root for 5.0.1 in this forum is quite appropriate and very different from unlocked bootloaders, rooted firmware or rooted kernel. In fact, installing a new kernel or rom usually requires an unlocked bootloader and getting that done usually requires a root method first so there's some chance of writing a new recovery. With root, methods such as what is now known as SafeStrap (the result of a technique discovered by Birdman, matured by myself and then claimed by another person who's made a habit of claiming others' work as his own) can allow for quite a bit of customization, but typically not so much as a new kernel, let alone different ROMs.
Right now, the state of the Note 4 is that only the Dev Edition (DE) has much of anything going on. You'll find all sorts of frustrating and unclear information about KingRoot, but it's of almost no use unless you think you can abuse it to search for a more complete and permanent root method, but if you knew how to do such a thing, I doubt you'd be here asking for root If you see ROMs or anything else advanced in this forum that doesn't specify it's only for the DE, assume it is.
I've been around since the days of CupCake (and built WiMo roms previously, along with some of the earliest ROMs and rooting) and based on experience, I'd say that the only chance left seeing root on the retail Note 4 is if another root method (new as of today/2015-12-28) is discovered elsewhere that applies to 5.x/5.0.1 OR the Note 4 sees another OTA and we get really lucky (unlikely).
exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.
tonycstech said:
exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.
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Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point
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Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point
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Seller said its still on 4.4.4 which is good news.
I just now need to find a thread on how to root 4.4.4 S5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23681161096070831
Whatever you do don't take any OTA updates, some are forced so get it rooted asap and then use the pre-rooted lollipop images
Max Weinbach posted on https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-note8-bootloader-odin/ that Samsung 8/8+/Note 8 January update come with a new bootloader that
1) can not downgrade your phone after installing this
2) block Prince Comsy’s modded Odin.
Max wrote one consequence is: "Note8 owners with the carrier Note8 devices cannot flash the US unlocked firmware. If you try to flash the carrier unlocked firmware on carrier phone, it will hard brick your phone". But later make this correction as an EDIT: After being tested by XDA Senior member me2151, it turns out cross region flashing does work. Prince Comsy Odin is working, but we can not test if the factory binary flashing will hard brick your phone. So flashing US unlocked onto a US carrier device should work.
I will like to buy a Note 8 and what I want to do is have 2 (or more) ROM (OS) and be able to multi boot. I have 4 questions regarding this. With the January update can I use multi boot ROM (MultiROM, DualBootPatcher, or any other) on:
1) The Unlock International Version (install the T-mobile ROM and other ROMs)?
2) The Unlock US Version (install the T-mobile ROM and other ROMs)?
3) The T-Mobile (Snapdragon) version (Install US unlock version ROM and other ROMs)? As far said here: https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-update-805328/ the T-mobile Janaury update is not out yet for T-Mobile, so a T-Moile Note 8 is not supposed to be affected by it.
The 4th questions is: Lets said I have T-Mobile Note 8, Im succesfull installing a multi boot, I have 3 ROMs simulstaniously. ROM 1 is the T-Mobile ROM that came with the phone, ROM 2 is Unlock US Note 8 ROM and ROM 3 FireFox OS. Everything work fine. Then After that, came out the “January” update for T-Mobile and I installed (because I need to be protected by the vulnerabities if fix). But the update change the bootloader. The question is> Will I be able to multi boot the 3 ROMs, like was doing before instaling the update? Or the 2 non carrier ROMs will be affected by the boot loader change made by the update, and the T-mobile phone will only able to boot to the original T-Mobile ROM that came with the phone? Or when the update change the boot loader will mess (probably brick) the whoe phone not letting me to boot what ever ROM it have (the T-Mobile and and the other 2 ROMs)
I'm sorry not meaning to sound rude but I almost fell asleep midway through reading your post... 1st of all from what I gathered your buying a international note 8? And then want to flash multiboot which I personally only used when running touchwiz Rom and say a ASOP Rom if you will... but you need to keep in mind that your not gonna find too many roms over here on the snapdragon devices. I will tell you if you want to utilize multiboot then don't buy a Samsung. I used multiboot on my LGv20 having stock rooted as my daily and Lineage as my 2nd.
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I'm sorry not meaning to sound rude but I almost fell asleep midway through reading your post... 1st of all from what I gathered your buying a international note 8? And then want to flash multiboot which I personally only used when running touchwiz Rom and say a ASOP Rom if you will... but you need to keep in mind that your not gonna find too many roms over here on the snapdragon devices. I will tell you if you want to utilize multiboot then don't buy a Samsung. I used multiboot on my LGv20 having stock rooted as my daily and Lineage as my 2nd.
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I was told that Snapdragon Note 8 (US unlock and US carrier) does not have unlocked boot loader, therefore is impossible to multiboot.
The question is if the Exynos model could be used to multiboot?
The #1 reason I decided against the international model was issues with Carrier Aggregation I even asked the question in this forum and the international forum about if any fix had been found...I just wasn't willing to shell out that kind of money and not have the phone work properly switching between towers. I went with a US unlocked version...should be here Thursday.
in regards to multi-boot...I believe that would be processor dependent (someone please correct me if I am wrong.) and thus you would need to inquire in the international forum if there is a multi-boot for the exynos chipsets.