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Will we get Nougat (7.0)? If so, when?

Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?

Well, I meant to post this in Q&A, but I guess discussion works too.

Judging by the 1+2, yes, half a year after N goes official.
But who knows, maybe they improved, we got a quick RAM and display fix after all, so I'll say it'll land on january 17th 2017.

You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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brickedvice said:
You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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Pandemic187 said:
Can anyone with past 1+ experience
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It's not like my post was even lengthy...

Official update for sure takes months. But i hope CM and AOSP brings us a (more or less stable) N beta some weeks after the launch. So maybe for christmas this year.

Thanks Hatshipuh and Tiz92. That seems like a reasonable time frame.
Oh, and extra points to Hatshipuh for an exact date estimate! :laugh:

Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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t2jbird said:
Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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Well said. Wasn't there a pic floating around of the op3 running a preview N? I remember seeing it somewhere online bit I didn't care coz I never thought I would buy this phone at the time.

It was a fake. There were "0"s with different fonts.

History is a cyclic phenomenom.
At each new Android version the same threads, with the same answers: we don't know.
The correct answer is: When it's done. And sooner for custom roms.

What did you said?

matze19999 said:
What did you said?
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haha, I was about to say the same thing.

Pandemic187 said:
Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?
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We won't get Android N
Enjoy!

matze19999 said:
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Come back to future bro, lol

It's better to not count on getting Android N.
And even if it comes, there is a probability that certain things in a N update will be annoying or worse than on Marshmallow so that many users will prefer to not update to N.
But that is OK - on my LG G2 which I used for 2.5 years I still have Android 4.4. And it works, so what?

I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?

_MartyMan_ said:
I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?
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No, it will be 7.0

I don't pin my hopes high of getting android N anytime sooner than 1 year. I will be relying on custom ROMs. The only thing i will be missing is camera quality. Photos on custom ROMs just don't match with what i can get with stock. Hopefully we get alternative.
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android n for one plus 3 ? in Feb-March 2017 , they have a history of slow updates. best to assume more time to avoid horrible disappointment lol . but who will stay on stock for so long ? i just hope the op3 gets a cam mod that makes us utilize the slow mo video recordings in aosp/cm roms.. then id go ahead.

Q&A about Oreo Beta

Before we begin: NO, I WILL NOT PROVIDE A ZIP HERE.
OK, now when thats out of the way, lets Start with the most asked questions about Stock oreo for Moto G5.
1: Q: "Is the Beta out yet?"
A: Not yet, but very soon, as the Moto G5 MFN requests have Been accepted.
2: Q: "Can you provide the OTA ZIP?'
A: No, because
1:Its illeagel
2: Its made for a specific IMEI
3: It may damages your device.
3: Q: "How do we find out if Oreo Beta out? Using OTA?"
A: You cant find out if your Device's Bootloader is unlocked and if you didnt join MFN using this link:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-...or-the-Motorola-Feedback-Network/td-p/3064626
Then, when the day comes, you get Oreo Beta if you are on Stock and have Bootloader unlocked at that momement.
4: Q: "I dont care about illeagel stuff how do i get the ZIP extracted?"
A: You cant!
Because you only recieve the update if youre Bootloader locked. Thus you cant access /cache. Unlocking the Bootloader after you downloaded the Update erases Cache and Userdata (as we all know)
5: Q: "So... Will Oreo ever come out?"
A: Of course it does! Just give motorola time!
I will edit this thread when More questions get asked.
You can disguss and ask questions here, but look at your grammar and think twice before asking something.
Thanks, P8tgames :good:

Nice, can't wait to see news about the beta for our device
Hope it comes out quick

Truly excited.

I suppose there might be a way if someone runs a traffic detector on his/her network and grabs the OTA link...
(By the way, check some typos in the first post, it says things like "illeagel").

Oreo? We will get a lousy November security patch update first. So Oreo maybe in March or April, I bet.

oliver7 said:
Oreo? We will get a lousy November security patch update first. So Oreo maybe in March or April, I bet.
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Well, it shouldn't take longer than march. If it does, it will be a tremendous dissapointment. My guess is february, maybe they will skip november and go straight to december-january

I got my g5 yesterday and it only has august 2017 security patch, so a 1 day old phone for me has only a 5 months old security patch available in it... I came from a G4 Play forgotten by motorola after they promised G4 Play users an update to android 7.0 more than a year ago and never delivered.... looks like I've fallen in the same trap again, damn.

XJeFX said:
I got my g5 yesterday and it only has august 2017 security patch, so a 1 day old phone for me has only a 5 months old security patch available in it... I came from a G4 Play forgotten by motorola after they promised G4 Play users an update to android 7.0 more than a year ago and never delivered.... looks like I've fallen in the same trap again, damn.
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Yes, it deoends on your distribution channel, some got the latest update by motorola, others are pretty much abandoned. Sad.

No news?

M1810 said:
No news?
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oh they are: new G6 familly phones arriving next month so be prepared to be even more fogotten.

Have you got the beta update yet? In lenovpo forums they said they have/will roll the update 3 days ago

I was offline for some time so I'll reply to y'all.
M1810 said:
Have you got the beta update yet? In lenovpo forums they said they have/will roll the update 3 days ago
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That doesnt mean anything really.
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oliver7 said:
Oreo? We will get a lousy November security patch update first. So Oreo maybe in March or April, I bet.
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Yes, I totally agree. Lenovo should focus on Oreo more. Ore maybe they are waiting so long to get us hyped?
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Shooting Star Max said:
I suppose there might be a way if someone runs a traffic detector on his/her network and grabs the OTA link...
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Maybe. Well have to see using wireshark or something like that.
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(By the way, check some typos in the first post, it says things like "illeagel").
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Oh cmon.

The beta or soak test for our moto g5 should be close, the X4, Z, Z2 force, Z2 play and Z play have receive oreo or at least the soak test.. the only remaining phones are the original Z force and then all the G5 family
(Are the moto Z droid versions a name for android one or what do it means?

M1810 said:
The beta or soak test for our moto g5 should be close, the X4, Z, Z2 force, Z2 play and Z play have receive oreo or at least the soak test.. the only remaining phones are the original Z force and then all the G5 family
(Are the moto Z droid versions a name for android one or what do it means?
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Moto G5 is budget and thus low priority. It will come February im sure.

p8tgames said:
Moto G5 is budget and thus low priority. It will come February im sure.
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Yeah, probably coming ti the plus models then it will come to our G5

Custom rom time then...

March 6 2018 Motorola Moto G5 (Cedric) still waiting OTA :v :'v

Is soak test started for g series???
I can't add my device by that link..
It continue says that unable to retrieve your device info...?

March Security Patch

INTRODUCTION
Motorola is excited to announce a new software update for moto g5 plus by Motorola. This update brings important security improvements to your phone.
For more information on Motorola updates and repairs, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
NOTE: All information on your phone will be saved. You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
ENHANCEMENTS
This update introduces changes including the following:
Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through March 1st, 2018.
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Source: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
I have yet to receive it here on retbr. Will keep updated if I see anything show up.

I'm guessing somewhere after the second week of April

psychopac said:
I'm guessing somewhere after the second week of April
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Considering how Lenovorola was sending out a Feb patch in the same month to the G5S+, I'm betting on this coming out mid to end of March and rolling out in about twelve days to all regions (based on the Jan update rollout)

Rocketfin said:
Considering how Lenovorola was sending out a Feb patch in the same month to the G5S+, I'm betting on this coming out mid to end of March and rolling out in about twelve days to all regions (based on the Jan update rollout)
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Nice. But it would be much nicer if they would roll out Oreo. I was hoping they would do that in combination with the march security patch. But it seems we'll have to wait some more time.
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Wolfcity said:
Nice. But it would be much nicer if they would roll out Oreo. I was hoping they would do that in combination with the march security patch. But it seems we'll have to wait some more time.
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Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo. We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable enough for daily use at this point. The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock rom. That's exactly what I'm doing, btw, and I have yet to see anything 8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me.

agentfusion said:
Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo. We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable enough for daily use at this point. The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock rom. That's exactly what I'm doing, btw, and I have yet to see anything 8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me.
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I am of your opinion that there is no big "wow" about Oreo. But it's an update Lenovo/Motorola promised to their users and under these circumstances something one has paid for.
About custom roms: I'm a big fan of custom roms and use them on my other devices. But as there is no Oreo source for the Moto G5+ imo there are still several problems with AOSP or Lineage based roms like users losing volte, IMEI or even mobile data when returning to stock after being on 8.1 custom roms and also the roms I've tested lack of stability and features beside the mentioned camera issues.No daily driver material for me.
That would not happen if the kernel sources of stock Oreo for potter would be available and as we all know this will only happen when our devices will be upgraded. The Moto G5+ stock rom is really good in terms of battery and performance and I'm very satisfied with the rooted 7.0 stock but I won't unroot and flash stock everytime just to get a security patch. Don't get me wrong, security patches are good and important but for me it's not worth the effort against the background that a major update is about to come in foreseeable time.
And that's the point why I'm waiting for Oreo for the Moto G5+. For stable custom roms and a good reason to unroot and reflash my device.
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agentfusion said:
Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo..
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A promise they made.
agentfusion said:
We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable "enough" for daily use at this point.
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Stable enough although not ideal. There are always a couple hacks and other shenanigans that may not deliver the complete experience. Either missing blobs or proprietary functions that some people need it.
Warranty. I did unlock my bootloader within 3 months. My G5 Plus started to act stupid, the power and volume buttons would get stuck and not press down anymore. This is not my fault. I'm no *insert stereotype here* to handle my phone as if it is some piece of brick.
Result: I bought another one, extra 800BRL.
Also, not everyone has the knowledge to flash ROMs, as easy as it may be. Some people **** up the most simple stuff, such as downloading the right zip for the right device.
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The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock ROM.
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There you go. Another reason which I mentioned earlier.
agentfusion said:
I have yet to see anything 8.0/8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me
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Well there is PIP (Picture-in-Picture) there may be a lot of people that would actually love to have this feature.
There is a new interface, some people like looking at something different. Blame them
I think they improved the File Manager.
More precise notification settings. (Notification Channels)
Unknown Source APK settings revamped. (Now you don't need to go back to that APK file because the system won't dismiss everything.) [And you can choose only your file manager in case your browser gets attacked and the attacker finds a way to install APKs from it, security+)
agentfusion said:
Oreo just doesn't "wow" me
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It should "wow" the fact that Motorola promised something as a company and did not deliver.
Would you trust them again? Do you believe they are caring enough about you as customer, or do you think they see you more as money than other OEMs?
I'm out won't due that stuck button problem I had and the delayed updates.
Pls this is not a personal attack

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it should "wow" the fact that Motorola promised something as a company and did not deliver.
Would you trust them again? Do you believe they are caring enough about you as customer, or do you think they see you more as money than other OEMs?
I'm out won't due that stuck button problem I had and the delayed updates.
Pls this is not a personal attack
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Companies lie. It's a universal constant. LG lied when they said all LG G4 devices after a certain serial number were free of the bootloop solder defect. Lie. They said it wouldn't happen in future devices. Lie. HTC lied about certain phones getting Gorilla Glass... They all lie. Motorola/Lenovo didn't give an exact date, they just said it would happen for a specific list of devices. They've reiterated the list, and then started a rollout in AUS/NZ for the X4 which is on that list, so now they can say they kept their promise because they started the rollout on one of the listed devices. They're going to say the delays are because they can't, logistically, rollout to all of them simultaneously. They've still come closer to keeping the promise than any other OEM, but they're all liars about something.
And I never take anything as a personal attack unless someone says something personal about *me* in an insulting way, so we're good. You're just sharing your opinion, same as I did. There's no harm in that.

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. They've reiterated the list, and then started a rollout in AUS/NZ for the X4 which is on that list, so now they can say they kept their promise because they started the rollout on one of the listed devices. They're going to say the delays are because they can't, logistically, rollout to all of them simultaneously. They've still come closer to keeping the promise than any other OEM, but they're all liars about something.
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To be fair they have already rolled out Oreo to the X4 and X4 Android One Edition as well as the z² force while currently having soak tests for the z² play, z play and z

Screen?

smn.silv said:
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I don't even...
There is no screen. It's unreleased. You don't need proof, it's Lenovo/Motorola Support website.

Any idea what Will it include apart from security patch.
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To be fair they have already rolled out Oreo to the X4 and X4 Android One Edition as well as the z² force while currently having soak tests for the z² play, z play and z
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Nice! I didn't know they had gotten further than the X4. IMO, that's really good news for anyone with a device on the list of devices they've promised will get Oreo.

BlackScout said:
Source: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
I have yet to receive it here on retbr. Will keep updated if I see anything show up.
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Still waiting for it on Moto G5 plus reteu no brand.
Thank you for sharing.
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There is a way to manually download security patch from motorola website?

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device? I was also waiting for Oreo but after updating on one of my devices I found the new UI awkward specially the status bar and quick tyles (they all are either white or pure black). Also I am not going to unlock this as official LaOS is not available.
Anyone has any idea if official builds will ever be possible for Potter or not?
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I love the white UI from oreo.
Don't worry, you can stop updates on the device.. but you won't receive security patches in nougat after oreo.

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device?
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An official Oreo release helps with custom Oreo ROM stabliity.
Unofficial LineageOS 14.1 is stable enough for daily use. I've been running it the past week weeks without GAPPs just fine.

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device? I was also waiting for Oreo but after updating on one of my devices I found the new UI awkward specially the status bar and quick tyles (they all are either white or pure black). Also I am not going to unlock this as official LaOS is not available.
Anyone has any idea if official builds will ever be possible for Potter or not?
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You are OT. We are talking about March security update not about how pretty is the oreo UI.
Afte rall you can choose to not update to oreo, use a lineage of Nougat. Many choices for android users, you have nothing to worry about.

I've only got the January security patch on my G5 Plus last Wednesday. You guys are already getting the March patch?

Mrkblo said:
I've only got the January security patch on my G5 Plus last Wednesday. You guys are already getting the March patch?
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Depends on where you live, if your have a retail or a carrier locked phone. These OTA's always roll out in stages. There are users recieving the Nov security patch these days.
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Got it on retus.

[Official] Moto G5 & G5+ 8.1 Oreo release notes

G5:
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130766
G5+:
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130856
Moto just published Oreo release notes for the G5 possibly for another soak test, I suspect it was also by accident like the one before (for G5s).
Since the G5+ notes have also been released, it could be that this is the final release and all bugs have been squashed with internal testing. I didn't see them posting release notes for soaks before.
Just gonna have to wait and see untill someone gets a notification, official or soak.

finally moto... guess if everything goes OK we'll see an official rollout by the end of july

It looks like Moto is waiting to do the Plus til last LOL

Archangel said:
It looks like Moto is waiting to do the Plus til last LOL
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probably the G4 plus will get it before us

M1810 said:
probably the G4 plus will get it before us
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Please just stop with the speculation. There hasn't been a single release note posted for the g4 yet, so I see no reason for it to get Oreo before the g5 phones
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It looks like Moto is waiting to do the Plus til last LOL
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They posted release notes for the Plus too, FYI
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130856

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Please just stop with the speculation. There hasn't been a single release note posted for the g4 yet, so I see no reason for it to get Oreo before the g5 phones
They posted release notes for the Plus too, FYI
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130856
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it was a joke, obviously the G4 plus won't receive oreo before us.

In how many channel Motorola started soak test?

Bharadvaj Mayya said:
In how many channel Motorola started soak test?
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Most probably in Brazil and India in the first wave

I am a MFN user will update soon. If receive

Got an email for the soak, not sure if I qualified, though.

Almost a year to late... Still glad it's 8.1 and not 8.0

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Got an email for the soak, not sure if I qualified, though.
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I think you are invited, check your spam for any mails from Moto. If you do get selected, remember to give us some Oreo love by capturing the OTA

Better later than never
Glad to know the devs will have the resources to improve and make even more custom roms stable.

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Almost a year to late... Still glad it's 8.1 and not 8.0
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it is not a year late though, 8.0 came in august and 8.1 in december, so we are still pretty new to the party.

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Got an email for the soak, not sure if I qualified, though.
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What did you do? did you send your email to them?

Rocketfin said:
Got an email for the soak, not sure if I qualified, though.
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Can you forward me the mail

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What did you do? did you send your email to them?
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You have to register your device and then sign it up for the MFN here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/mcp/my_devices
At this point it's unlikely that you will get into the soak, but if there's any issues you might make it into the second one
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Can you forward me the mail
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I would, but it contains personal information and the link in it won't work anyways, it's only for a one time use

Any G5+ spotted on Oreo ? I have seen screenshot of g5s+ only. ....

Bharadvaj Mayya said:
Any G5+ spotted on Oreo ? I have seen screenshot of g5s+ only. ....
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i think soak tests start rolling after 10 days of the release notes..

Hi!!! Can u tell me what security patch you are on, I'm on Retin Channel but still on April patch on 7.0

Mi a2 lite where is Android 10 ?

The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update

Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.

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The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update
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I would rather wait for them to test and fix bugs fully before releasing it. I don't want them to release it when it's not ready.. just wait

andraslate said:
Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.
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True mate ! Xiaomi ****ed the Android One project. Im totally disapointed ([email protected]!).

will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....

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will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....
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Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)

stmr said:
Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)
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possibly it's a bit better but it's definitely not fixed.
wifi & bluetooth on - wifi speed is 1/3 of the speed with only wifi on

According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...

slimshady76 said:
According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...
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Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:

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Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:
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Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.

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Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.
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I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha. I wish Xiaomi cared more for their Android One devices, but it seems they only wanted hop on another trend real quick and they are technically not giving a sh*t at all. When I first bought this phone, I expected all Android One devices to run the same OS, but somehow Nokia Android One devices get better, faster and more polished updates. I wish I had gotten the Nokia 7.1 when I had the chance. Shame.

marstonpear said:
I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha.
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Wise! Beware of open source.