Want to buy this phone, please advice, which snapdragon to choose with, with the intention of modding?
Is any significant performance superiority of 652 over 650?
I think the 650 (Hydrogen) has the best support in terms of custom ROMs.
I've got a 650 Hydrogen and I think it's pretty snappy! No major lags or performance issues.
FYI, the Xiaomi Mi Max with the Snapdragon 650 is referred to as Hydrogen.
The Xiaomi Mi Max with the Snapdragon 652 is referred to as Helium.
Hopefully that will help with searching out custom ROMs
You can some comparison here
http://www.manilashaker.com/snapdragon-650-snapdragon-652-philippines/
As I understand kernels are the same for hydrogen and helium?
According to CPUz my Nexus 7 has a Snapdragon 600 should it not be an S4 pro?
Tmzdroid said:
According to CPUz my Nexus 7 has a Snapdragon 600 should it not be an S4 pro?
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The S4 pro has 4x Krait 200 cores and support LPDDR2 RAM modules. The SoC in nexus 7 has 4x Krait 300 cores and support DDR3L-1600MHz SDRAM modules.
So I think, that it's just basically underclocked snapdragon 600, but they call it like a S4 Pro, because of the underclocking (snapdragon 600 is clocked at 1.7GHz)
Hi and thank you for taking the time to read this!
I'm in need of a new phone like ASAP My last phone was a xiaomi redmi 10s and I was happy with it but now that xiaomi redmi 11 is out I'm thinking of buying it, is there a better one for under 250€. I basically game on my phone all the time and listen to A LOT of music but main focus is gaming like emulators and stuff like that. So can anyone help me?
P.s I'm thinking of getting the 8gb version of the phone
yes! beside x3 pro these are the best for emulators, sound is decent, screen is excellent, just don't update MIUI to 13 version, keep MIUI 12 til 13.5 release.
I'd get a Mi 10T (Snapdragon 865)
Snapdragon 870 is not overclockable so 670MHz GPU is your max
Snapdragon 865 is overclockable so you can overclock to 900MHz GPU but you'd need to get a fan to sustain that high overclock while gaming.
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I'd get a Mi 10T (Snapdragon 865)
Snapdragon 870 is not overclockable so 670MHz GPU is your max
Snapdragon 865 is overclockable so you can overclock to 900MHz GPU but you'd need to get a fan to sustain that high overclock while gaming.
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How do you overclock? Why isn't SD 870 overclockable? It's slightly better than SD 865, no?
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How do you overclock? Why isn't SD 870 overclockable? It's slightly better than SD 865, no?
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it is locked by Qualcomm.
I thought that nearly every android device that’s rooted can be overclocked using a custom kernel and app that allow it , but I found out that the poco f3 gpu can’t be overclocked and if so there is minimal improvement because of Qualcomm trust zone , I know that the sd870 is already an overclocked 865+ which in itself is an overclocked 865 and that overclocking produces more heat but I’m planning on doing a custom cooling solution for it , and I don’t even know about the cpu , I know that someone managed to overclock sd865 and beat 888 , so why isn’t it possible , is the problem with Qualcomm or Xiaomi , if it’s with Qualcomm what other mobile SOCs can be overclocked ? if it’s with Xiaomi what other devices even tablets that have sd 870 that can be overclocked ? Thank you !
when people talk about overclock, its mostly about the gpu.
The sd870's prime core of cpu is overclocked than that of the sd 865.
the gpu of the sd870 was locked by trust zone, so, it can be overclocked to a limit. (Max 683 MHz)
Some lucky guys have an unlocked sd870, where they can overclock their gpu and even reach 1000 MHz if they want.
sd865 was not locked by trust zone and thus can be overlocked up to 985 MHz
its not related to xiaomi
Keep in mind, if you do manage to overclock, it is best to have a cooler when reaching these overclock levels
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when people talk about overclock, its mostly about the gpu.
The sd870's prime core of cpu is overclocked than that of the sd 865.
the gpu of the sd870 was locked by trust zone, so, it can be overclocked to a limit. (Max 683 MHz)
Some lucky guys have an unlocked sd870, where they can overclock their gpu and even reach 1000 MHz if they want.
sd865 was not locked by trust zone and thus can be overlocked up to 985 MHz
its not related to xiaomi
Keep in mind, if you do manage to overclock, it is best to have a cooler when reaching these overclock levels
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So it is impossible to overclock the cpu of any mobile processor ?
is the sd865 the last processor that can be overclocked and wasn’t locked by trust zone ?
can you provide the link of the 1000 MHz gpu overclock ? Thank you !
These arent mine though
credits go to @astronomy216
also from that telegram group, i talked about
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These arent mine though
credits go to @astronomy216
also from that telegram group, i talked about
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Is the 888 or 8 gen 1 also locked by trust zone ?
I am not sure but i think it was mentioned in the telegram group
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I am not sure but i think it was mentioned in the telegram group
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Where can I find it ? I asked the owner and he told me that he doesn’t own 888 or 8 gen 1
The telegram group https://t.me/adreno_konabess
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The telegram group https://t.me/adreno_konabess
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I was on the telegram group and didn’t find what Im searching for , why there is no information about this anywhere on the internet ? also do you know how they achieved 1000mhz on the poco f3
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Compatibility list of Qualcomm SOC
Snapdragon 8Gen1 max 831MHz
Snapdragon 888+ max 855MHz
Snapdragon 888 max 855MHz
Snapdragon 870 max 680/683MHz
Snapdragon 865+ max 683/950MHz
Snapdragon 865 max 940/950MHz
Snapdragon 860 max 692MHz
Snapdragon 855+ max 692MHz
Snapdragon 855 max 800-855MHz
Snapdragon 780G
Snapdragon 778G
Snapdragon 765
Snapdragon 750
Snapdragon 690
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The sd888 stock max gpu 840
According to this list it can be overclocked to 855, so, i suppose that means it is locked
3zozHashim said:
when people talk about overclock, its mostly about the gpu.
The sd870's prime core of cpu is overclocked than that of the sd 865.
the gpu of the sd870 was locked by trust zone, so, it can be overclocked to a limit. (Max 683 MHz)
Some lucky guys have an unlocked sd870, where they can overclock their gpu and even reach 1000 MHz if they want.
sd865 was not locked by trust zone and thus can be overlocked up to 985 MHz
its not related to xiaomi
Keep in mind, if you do manage to overclock, it is best to have a cooler when reaching these overclock levels
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You can undervolt at the same time. My 870 is unlocked. I overclocked it and undervolted. So I manage more power but with less heat and consumption.
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Compatibility list of Qualcomm SOC
Snapdragon 8Gen1 max 831MHz
Snapdragon 888+ max 855MHz
Snapdragon 888 max 855MHz
Snapdragon 870 max 680/683MHz
Snapdragon 865+ max 683/950MHz
Snapdragon 865 max 940/950MHz
Snapdragon 860 max 692MHz
Snapdragon 855+ max 692MHz
Snapdragon 855 max 800-855MHz
Snapdragon 780G
Snapdragon 778G
Snapdragon 765
Snapdragon 750
Snapdragon 690
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The sd888 stock max gpu 840
According to this list it can be overclocked to 855, so, i suppose that means it is locked
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Thanks a lot , do you think that 8 gen 1 water cooled will eliminate the heat problems and beat sd870 in prolonged gaming sessions
Jack 177 said:
Thanks a lot , do you think that 8 gen 1 water cooled will eliminate the heat problems and beat sd870 in prolonged gaming sessions
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ofcourse but water cooling is overkill
there are mobile fan coolers that have a thermoelectric peltier that should do the trick but make sure that it has that peltier, a normal fan wouldnt cool well
sd888 locked is better than sd870 locked
sd888 unlocked is better than sd870 unlocked
sd870 unlocked is better than sd888 locked
same with 8gen1
The only reason a locked sd870 is better than 8gen1 in prolonged gaming is because the default clocks of the 8gen1 is higher than that of the sd870, so, more heat is generated.
Most phones will start throttling at 45°C battery temperature, so, the 8gen1 will reach that temperature faster than the sd870
Thank you so much for your help ! I think I’m going to opt for the 865 but I preferably want a tablet for gaming , and so far the only 2 tablets I found were : Huawei (it doesn’t have play store ) and Samsung tab s7 , can samsung devices even be overclocked?
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Thank you so much for your help ! I think I’m going to opt for the 865 but I preferably want a tablet for gaming , and so far the only 2 tablets I found were : Huawei (it doesn’t have play store ) and Samsung tab s7 , can samsung devices even be overclocked?
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i hate samsung, they keep complicating things with root and bootloader. The last samsung i had was android 7.0, so, i dont know much about samsung.
i recommend an 8gb or more ram, i have a 6gb and it is starting to be more than 80% used most of the time
Ok thank you , do you have any other suggestion (tablet or smartphone) equipped with 865 that can be oc to 950 MHz
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Ok thank you , do you have any other suggestion (tablet or smartphone) equipped with 865 that can be oc to 950 MHz
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if they both have the same specs then it is a personal preference whether you like a bigger screen or not
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Thank you so much for your help ! I think I’m going to opt for the 865 but I preferably want a tablet for gaming , and so far the only 2 tablets I found were : Huawei (it doesn’t have play store ) and Samsung tab s7 , can samsung devices even be overclocked?
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You can't root Huawei which is a killer for me.
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if they both have the same specs then it is a personal preference whether you like a bigger screen or not
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You can't root Huawei which is a killer for me.
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What do you think the best smartphone brand is , in terms of overclocking and 120 fps support for games even if the phone doesn’t natively support 120 fps in all games , in which brand you can unlock the fps after rooting and overclock the 865 to 950 MHz ?
best brand in general is samsung but if you want to root and overclock, definitely dont choose samsung.
The only brands i have ever tried was samsung and xiaomi (Galaxy note 5 and xiaomi poco f3)
I know that Mi10T can be overclocked to 950, idk any other phones, im not well versed in this area.
When it comes to supporting 120 fps on all apps, as long as you are rooted, any phone will do, you can just change model name or use gltools