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Best setup for a kid on the Epic4G (solved)

I'm going to give my son my Epic, he's a toddler and he's all about playing on my phone..well, of course I want to disable certain features, password lock settings and play store etc, is there any 'kids corner' like apps or setups that I could use?
I'm on CM10.1 with it right now, one thing he loves doing is dragging apps from the drawer and making folders with tons of the same app in them..lol so want to cut that out, maybe require rolling back to GB where folders were not able to be created..of course having the ability to stop him from dropping shortcuts on the home screen at all would be best..
Any ideas?

Re: Best setup for a kid on the Epic4G
I believe adw launcher has the option to lock the desktop
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Nova and Apex can do it as well
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Here's my current issue, if I could get around this I've got the perfect setup..
I want to use a password locker app to lock settings, which I can do, but I cannot lock nova settings, the app does not show up in the list on app lock apps even though it's in the app drawer. Doesn't make sense honestly.
The only other hurdles are disabling the long press home key/recent apps, although if I lock everything but his games it won't matter..just need to lock nova settings and if possible wallpapers, system settings and manage apps both require pin from the menu touch key.
I removed the notification bar and all quick toggles and the dock, going to add all games to desktop and lock it and delete the app drawer icon as well as hide and/or lock all apps like play store etc. Then putting on the otter box and putting some tape around it so he can't open the keyboard. I think he will enjoy having his own phone to play with, he loves the puzzle apps

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luna_c666 said:
Here's my current issue, if I could get around this I've got the perfect setup..
I want to use a password locker app to lock settings, which I can do, but I cannot lock nova settings, the app does not show up in the list on app lock apps even though it's in the app drawer. Doesn't make sense honestly.
The only other hurdles are disabling the long press home key/recent apps, although if I lock everything but his games it won't matter..just need to lock nova settings and if possible wallpapers, system settings and manage apps both require pin from the menu touch key.
I removed the notification bar and all quick toggles and the dock, going to add all games to desktop and lock it and delete the app drawer icon as well as hide and/or lock all apps like play store etc. Then putting on the otter box and putting some tape around it so he can't open the keyboard. I think he will enjoy having his own phone to play with, he loves the puzzle apps
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Nova Settings is not an independent app, so...
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Hmmmm...no way to lock or hide it...or disable the hardware keys (or at least the menu key)?
I just don't want him fiddling with the settings
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luna_c666 said:
Hmmmm...no way to lock or hide it...or disable the hardware keys (or at least the menu key)?
I just don't want him fiddling with the settings
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A more unpleasant news: even you disable hardware menu key somehow, Nova Settings is still accessible via the app list - 3-dot button on the top right corner
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AndyYan said:
A more unpleasant news: even you disable hardware menu key somehow, Nova Settings is still accessible via the app list - 3-dot button on the top right corner
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No, there's no app list button there I can delete the only shortcut to the app drawer. Not sure which version you are running or if you are thinking of ADW or Apex, one of which I do recall has the app list persistent on the homescreen as such. Novaprime does not have that..you can add one, but if I can lock the settings with a pin and lock desktop it will be quite locked down. Amy ROMS that have Navbar added in and disable the hardware keys?

Aha found a way to disable the Hardware keys....
"delete the text in /system/usr/keylayout/sec_touchkey.kl and then save changes in a root explorer app."
Now to figure out how to build a flashable file to replace said file with original file so touchkeys can be re-enabled so I can further modify the device...figure I could get it where I needed it and push a blank file via ADB or use a flashable zip like villianROM theming flash files to disable/enable them from recovery.
I could make a step-by-step once I figure this out, I'm sure there are lots of homeless (deactivated) Epics that would love to be cuddled by some toddlers lol

Well I gave my Epic to my son several months ago and it is still running strong the only thing he's managed to change is the wallpaper (I'm not sure how, but he did it from within the game 'Where's My Water' somehow, that is currently the background).
So step by step what I did was- Downloaded a favorite app blocker tool that requires a PIN to launch apps (the Audio Manager secret app is a great one IMO) and removes them from the app drawer (so far he's not been able to access it once anyway). I have another app locker that prompts with a fake 'Force Close' screen, you have to long-press OK to access the PIN entry dialogue, just another layer of security.
Put Google Play and any other app possibly triggered by a game/link into the 'Locked' section of your app locker.
Install Nova (I have the Prime version, it will likely be required) and in Settings, hide dock with a swipe gesture (I use two fingers rotated counter-clockwise), put 5 pages on the dock.
Place links to the app drawer and the Nova Action Hide/Show Notification Bar on the far right page of the dock (or far left will work as well), to hide the dock, slide over to the far-left page and use your swipe gesture. That way the dock can only reveal the app drawer and Hide/Show Notifications if you use your swipe gesture and then scroll 4 times to the right- something my son is almost certain not to accidentally do.
Next, navigate to the aforementioned folder (/system/usr/keylayout/ or similar) and delete both the menu touchkey line and the search touchkey line in the layout file. This will disable the actions, but will still respond to touch and blink/vibrate.
Remove any quicksettings accessible via notification menu- some apps are still programmed to be in regular view mode instead of fullscreen and a toddler will occasionally be able to access the notification menu- like Netflix, for example. Remove any actions and block any apps that can be triggered from the notification menu.
Finally, set up your desktop with all games and links your child would use and lock it from within Nova settings and lock desktop. You will still be able to access your dock, but you will not be able to add/delete apps or move them around on the desktop without long-pressing the lock icon, which doesn't resemble a button so my son hasn't figured that out yet either. (I'm screwed when he learns how to read, and he already knows his letters so it's only a matter of time now!)
I also used a piece of 3M double-stick adhesive strip (1/8" thick foam) and cut it so it covers both menu/search buttons and leaves home/back exposed- I didn't want him to get frustrated trying to tap the buttons and nothing happens since they still react to touch- I could have hidden the buttons, disabled them, enabled a navbar and only added those two buttons (home/back) but that would take up valuable screen real-estate for his movies and games. Then I finished by installing an OtterBox cover and taping the sides so that the phone will not slide open any longer.
He has access to one main screen and anything the phone can do, at least that he knows it can do, is located on that main screen, and he can't customize anything but the background image, apparently, lol.
It's pretty much like an iPhone now.

[Q] Lockscreen customization

Is there any way to change the quick launch apps at the bottom of the lock screen or the clock/weather?

system6 said:
Is there any way to change the quick launch apps at the bottom of the lock screen or the clock/weather?
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The quick launch apps are based on your standard app dock on the bottom. If you want to switch it, you can download a new lock app. I use Holo Locker myself and really like it.

DashClock. How to make it my default lock screen?

I want to thank everyone on here for the replies over the last two days on my other questions.
One thing I want is to get DashClock as the default lock screen, but I can only get it to the "screen on the right of my normal launch screen" and am unable to delete the default lock screen and make DashClock take over the "one on the left" that is the default.
Has anyone gotten DashClock to work properly with the new HTC One, and if so, please tell me how.
Thank you all,

I haven't been able to figure out how to get a different widget on the "main" homescreen, either. I was able to swipe to the left (to go right) and place a widget on that homescreen, but no way to change the default that I can see.

breakerfall said:
I haven't been able to figure out how to get a different widget on the "main" homescreen, either. I was able to swipe to the left (to go right) and place a widget on that homescreen, but no way to change the default that I can see.
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Not sure I understand your issue. You can remove the default widget(s) on the device by simply pressing and holding, then dragging them off the screen. You can also modify the home screens in Settings --> Personalize --> Manage Home Screen Pages. You can switch which screen is "home" and even remove a whole screen.
As far as adding apps/widgets/homescreens, just press and hold a blank space on the screen and utilize the dropdown menu.
I have Dashclock running just fine on my M8, and use it for Daydream. Only issue I don't like is that to get it to Daydream horizontally, I have to start Daydream manually with the phone horizontal. Wish it would autosense that.

hgoldner said:
Not sure I understand your issue. You can remove the default widget(s) on the device by simply pressing and holding, then dragging them off the screen. You can also modify the home screens in Settings --> Personalize --> Manage Home Screen Pages. You can switch which screen is "home" and even remove a whole screen.
As far as adding apps/widgets/homescreens, just press and hold a blank space on the screen and utilize the dropdown menu.
I have Dashclock running just fine on my M8, and use it for Daydream. Only issue I don't like is that to get it to Daydream horizontally, I have to start Daydream manually with the phone horizontal. Wish it would autosense that.
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Like everyone else is stating, we can add DashClock to the right, move, edit and remove the DashClock lock widget screen, but it is always to the right of the "home lock screen" thus if I want to see it I need to swipe from the very top of the lock screen to see what is to the right of it.
The "home lock screen" is unable to be "removed' since the "remove" button is greyed out for that, I can only "edit". When I want to remove or edit the DashClock lock screen both the "edit" and "remove" are available, but not on the default lock screen widget.
No one else has bene able to get DashClock on the main lock screen because I can't drag DashClock to the left, and I can't drag the home screen lock widget to the right, even though I can see both when I have DashClock "held down" to move, it just won't go to the left of the defaul "home lock screen" to then make DashClock the default view.

hgoldner said:
Not sure I understand your issue.
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I mistakenly referred to "homescreen" instead of "lockscreen." Sorry for the confusion...

breakerfall said:
I mistakenly referred to "homescreen" instead of "lockscreen." Sorry for the confusion...
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To tell the truth, I haven't figured out how to add widgets to the lockscreen..... I use a PIN anyway so not sure it would make a difference.

Go to Settings > Security > Enable Lock Screen Widget.
Full details...

Doesn't work you can't move or remove the main lock screen. I can edit and move and lock screens I add to the right, but not the default main one.
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Any update?
Don't suppose anyone have found a solution to this?
Id would be nice to at least be able to add another widget under the stock lockscreen clock widget.

Not for dash clock but for Nils you can use the floating widget and it works fine
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So has anyone figured a way to remove the crappy default lock screen widget? I don't get why anyone would want to use this ****ty one when Dashclock is far superiour.
I still can't remove the main widget OR get the Dashclock to become the main widget "on the left".
Anyone?

murf43143 said:
So has anyone figured a way to remove the crappy default lock screen widget? I don't get why anyone would want to use this ****ty one when Dashclock is far superiour.
I still can't remove the main widget OR get the Dashclock to become the main widget "on the left".
Anyone?
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Well I bit the bullet and bought "Widget Locker" just so I could get a proper lock screen. Bull**** I have to pay $2.99 to get my lock screen up.

You normally have to go to Settings>Security and allow widgets first, then you can add a new one and delete the original (at least that's how you do it on the Nexus 5)

EddyOS said:
You normally have to go to Settings>Security and allow widgets first, then you can add a new one and delete the original (at least that's how you do it on the Nexus 5)
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Exactly what I did thinking that would fix it... Nope. I hate the widget
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Taken from the HTC support site...
Adding a widget on the lock screen
Choose from our selection of lock screen widgets.
Important: Before you can add a widget on the lock screen, you must select the Enable lock screen widgets option in Settings > Security.
On the lock screen, pull from the right edge until you see a + icon.
Tap + .
Tap a widget that you want to add to the lock screen.
Moving or deleting a lock screen widget
On the lock screen, pull from the right edge until you see the widget you want to move or delete.
Press and hold the widget, and then drag it left or right to the position that you want.
Press and hold the widget, and then drag it to to remove it.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8/howto/464924.html

EddyOS said:
Taken from the HTC support site...
Adding a widget on the lock screen
Choose from our selection of lock screen widgets.
Important: Before you can add a widget on the lock screen, you must select the Enable lock screen widgets option in Settings > Security.
On the lock screen, pull from the right edge until you see a + icon.
Tap + .
Tap a widget that you want to add to the lock screen.
Moving or deleting a lock screen widget
On the lock screen, pull from the right edge until you see the widget you want to move or delete.
Press and hold the widget, and then drag it left or right to the position that you want.
Press and hold the widget, and then drag it to to remove it.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8/howto/464924.html
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Eddy, thank you for the reply but clearly you haven't read a single thing on this thread. Anyone can add as many widgets as they want, but they can't delete the default one on the home screen, so we are stuck with it because the "remove" is greyed out for the default. I can have DashClock widget to the right of my main one, but that does no one any good.
It is impossible to remove the default widget, or move it to a position where it is not the default. The only way to get DashClock widget properly installed on this ever increasingly ****ty phone is to pay $2.99 for a program to unlock it.

murf43143 said:
Eddy, thank you for the reply but clearly you haven't read a single thing on this thread. Anyone can add as many widgets as they want, but they can't delete the default one on the home screen, so we are stuck with it because the "remove" is greyed out for the default. I can have DashClock widget to the right of my main one, but that does no one any good.
It is impossible to remove the default widget, or move it to a position where it is not the default. The only way to get DashClock widget properly installed on this ever increasingly ****ty phone is to pay $2.99 for a program to unlock it.
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Chill, dude - I had read it, just missed the bit about the stock one being greyed out, just thought you were having issues making the new one the 'home' one! Surprised HTC have done that, kinda sucks as I prefer to have Chronus as my lockscreen widget of choice...

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...just thought you were having issues making the new one the 'home' one!
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this is the product of the f***ing Standard clock on the 1st Lockscreen page. You cannot delete it, you cannot move it to 2nd Screen, so to have a e.g. nice Dashclock, you always have to Swipe right or left.
Dirty solution atm for me is NiLS with Floating Panel on stock lockscreen. I would use the AOSP lockscreen with Dashclock (running ViperOne), but it's lacking off DoubleTap2Wake function. And after 1 week, it's a thing Icannot live without anymore

AOSP Lock Screen
I haven't tried this yet on my M8 so YMMV, but it worked for getting the AOSP lock screen on my Sense M7...requires root...
Titanium backup
Backup/Uninstall HTC lock screen
Reboot
Terminal or ADB
su
am start -n com.google.android.setupwizard/.SetupWizardTestActivity;

This app can put an appdrawer on the edge. Great for secondary launchers.

If you want an app drawer on your edge screen use this....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=JakedUp.AppDrawer&hl=en
It should of been an option from stock... Just add it to your quicklauunch edge screen.,
It works great with a secondary launcher if you wanna hide the dock on the homescreens.
Note: Hold the menu button within the app to change settings and font.

mas5acre said:
If you want an app drawer on your edge screen use this....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=JakedUp.AppDrawer&hl=en
It should of been an option from stock... Just add it to your quicklauunch edge screen.,
It works great with a secondary launcher if you wanna hide the dock on the homescreens.
Note: Hold the menu button within the app to change settings and font.
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Thanks! I Just changed dpi to 300 with Xposed App Settings and it looks pretty good too!

Thanks for posting, but the drawer takes forever to load and can't be customized. There are much better options available.

pieces of cake said:
Thanks for posting, but the drawer takes forever to load and can't be customized. There are much better options available.
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Hi. That's weird. Mine comes up immediately. For customization you need to open the app drawer and then do a long press of recent apps to get to a menu to select settings. Then you can change fonts, background color and such. What are some of the better options available? Always interested in checking out new apps! Unity launcher is nice in that you can set up shortcuts (including floating windows with the use of the app "floating window shortcuts")

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.altlimit.applauncherplus

mscion said:
Hi. That's weird. Mine comes up immediately. For customization you need to open the app drawer and then do a long press of recent apps to get to a menu to select settings. Then you can change fonts, background color and such. What are some of the better options available? Always interested in checking out new apps! Unity launcher is nice in that you can set up shortcuts (including floating windows with the use of the app "floating window shortcuts")
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I mentioned holding the button in the OP. Thanks for reposting though. Thought it was a bad omission on Samsung's part.
Yeah didn't know about the paid one either, but hey its what this forums for, right? Mine is quick as well. Easy to customize.

I'am looking for a way that i can make on my home screen 5x5 for my icons.
Is this possible and what i can used for it.?

Ehhh... Is there a way to just have a "system" friendly shortcut icon to launch the app drawer? In other words, I already use a nice launcher app and I like its look and want to just open my app drawer to be the same as when I open it using the android app dock, not having this whole miui layer...
Currently using Next Launcher, but the launcher I use is irrelevant, I just want a system level call to open my normal app drawer rather than have an entire app represent the drawer. Another UI to manage is not what I want, as it is unaware of theme or font changes.
Isn't there a way to simply make a shortcut icon and put it in my edge bar.????????
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leonlfm said:
I'am looking for a way that i can make on my home screen 5x5 for my icons.
Is this possible and what i can used for it.?
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Have you tried or are willing to use a replacement launcher? I use Next Launcher which lets you control the icon grid spacing both on the home screen desktop and in the app drawer plus let's you have fine pixel resizing of widgets (widgets normally only resize in blocks spaced as wide as your icons, but this app lets you resize widgets pixel by pixel for finer control)
Many launchers also offer this flexibility not just the one I mention. Check them out! I hope I understood your question properly! (Next launcher also let's you change the icon look, the screen transition animation, and many other things. It looks great and is compatible with all themes made for Go launcher. Furthermore, it restores touch wiz's lost wallpaper scrolling function! But like all launchers, it does nothing for the look of the edge bar unfortunately, since the edge bar is basically an unsupported hack on the O.S. which has to be programmed for specifically...)

Tarototh said:
Ehhh... Is there a way to just have a "system" friendly shortcut icon to launch the app drawer? In other words, I already use a nice launcher app and I like its look and want to just open my app drawer to be the same as when I open it using the android app dock, not having this whole miui layer...
Isn't there a way to simply make a shortcut icon and put it in my edge bar.????????
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I agree. I would love nothing more to have a shortcut to my 360 Launcher app drawer on the "Edge". The app drawer app the OP provided is fine in a pinch, but nothing beats the app drawer transitions on 360 Launcher.

I have found a not ideal work around, which is to use the gesture shortcuts in Next Launcher so that whatever homescreen I'm on, I just swipe up to open my app drawer. However my ultimate goal is to be able to open the apps from the edge bar.. Why is this so important?
Because, the whole killer app feature of the edge bar, which I keep stressing to people who ask what the point of it is, is that I can open or switch to other apps from whatever app I'm in without exiting to the home screen first or scrolling through the recent apps.
My workaround still doesn't allow this.. But it DOES allow me to completely hide the dock bar at the bottom and have a FULL screen of widgets on my home screen. Which is pretty
I now have all my most used apps on the edge bar so I no longer need the android app dock on the bottom. It's really pretty and ergonomic.

Replacing icon without 3rd party launcher?

Is it possible to do so?
I like the double tap screen off feature in LG's software but really hates the default icons. If I use Nova launcher to replace the icons, I will not have the default double tap screen off.
I can still use Nova's double tap gesture to activate a screen off app, however that will not work with the smart (location) unlock feature in lollipop and I will need to enter my pin everytime.

I double tap the status bar in Nova and it still turns off the screen.

I use Nova Launcher combined with Screen Off And Lock. I set Nova's double tap gesture to Screen Off And Lock. Nova with double tap on and off.

Gzan23 said:
I double tap the status bar in Nova and it still turns off the screen.
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Wow, thank you! It works!

Sammae7 said:
I use Nova Launcher combined with Screen Off And Lock. I set Nova's double tap gesture to Screen Off And Lock. Nova with double tap on and off.
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I am using that too. But it will instantly lock the screen even if I'm on smart lock mode.

The default icons are among the worst I have seen. Amazing you cannot install icon packs.

Idk what you guys are talking about but I was able to install an icon pack without a third party launcher. Go to settings>home screen>theme

AliMusa said:
Idk what you guys are talking about but I was able to install an icon pack without a third party launcher. Go to settings>home screen>theme
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Verizon stripped the theme feature out. Yes, I know. Its lame. Verizon is garbage

Rippley05 said:
Verizon stripped the theme feature out. Yes, I know. Its lame. Verizon is garbage
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So glad I'm no longer with Verizon.

I just might have to go back to good old proven GO Launcher and then set my OWN icons and get notifier numbers over the app icons and set a slew of other settings. I was hoping to not have to use a launcher just so I could avoid the added layer of a launcher but... no dice with the stock setup.

Long press on icon and you should be able to change them individually.... After the icon is selected with a purple paintbrush, tap it one more time and choose a downloaded icon.
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