Image retention aka ghosting redmi note 5 - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers

So I got my brand new Xiaomi redmi note 5 global, I noticed ghosting after 5 min reading on some app and switch to another app.
Display panel is tiamma, what a shame same problems with the tiamma panel on the note 4.
Jdi panel on note 4 no problems with ghosting at all.
How to test it let it for like 5 a 10 min on the same app and go to a darker app.
It is a shame that such low quality panels are used again., Mi mix 2 does also have severe problems with image response time.
Edit I noticed more people are complaining about ghosting on the redmi note 5.

I'm pretty sure, most of the note 5's use tiamma panels, if not all of em, image retention hasn't been an issue on mine, I've read you can adjust the color temperatures to a cooler setting, an some other small things that fixes the problem, for the money, I think the display looks pretty great, I came from an iPhone 7 Plus costing 700+ with uneven lighting/yellowing of the display.

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thinking to buy mi max- screen quality doubt...

As written up- I consider buying max but most reviews said screen is not too good (not resolution but colors, they mostly say it is too bluish...)
Clearly, screen is main reason to buy this phone so this is deal breaker...
From owners- is it really so badly calibrated or bad itself?
I know that there is apk kcal for calibrating on low level qualcomm based phones screen (on cm or aosp). As there is cm13 for max, did anyone tried this?
any feedback is precious, thanks...
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I ordered a Xiaomi Mi Max last weekend after reading the review linked below, the most incredibly comprehensive review I've ever seen of a smartphone. I'm still waiting on the phone, it is still being shuffled about China, so I can't give my own opinion of the screen yet.
Read review here:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1239-xiaomi-mi-max/
Before my Mi Max 64 (pro) I used my Note 5. The note has a obviously better screen with higher resolution, but my Mi Max is no slouch. My complaint about the phone is the camera. While it takes well lit indoor/outdoor snaps of stationary targets, I found shooting my 4 month puppy (that didn't sound right), dodging and running was a near impossibility. Doesn't seem different camera app, ROM or update will solve the problem as it is hardware driven.
I'll be selling my Mi Max when another large screen phone with good camera comes around (Honor Note 8, Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra or Lenovo phab 2 pro), but meanwhile I love the large form factor an quick response of the SD 652.
But the screen: That's the last of my concerns. actually only the camera bothers me)
ivanox1972 said:
As written up- I consider buying max but most reviews said screen is not too good (not resolution but colors, they mostly say it is too bluish...)
Clearly, screen is main reason to buy this phone so this is deal breaker...
From owners- is it really so badly calibrated or bad itself?
I know that there is apk kcal for calibrating on low level qualcomm based phones screen (on cm or aosp). As there is cm13 for max, did anyone tried this?
any feedback is precious, thanks...
regards
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Don't worry about the screen, it's fine. I use Color Control from the Play Store to calibrate the saturation. Now it looks like an AMOLED minus the deep blacks. You'll be satisfied with the screen in the Mi Max.
audscott said:
Before my Mi Max 64 (pro) I used my Note 5. The note has a obviously better screen with higher resolution, but my Mi Max is no slouch. My complaint about the phone is the camera. While it takes well lit indoor/outdoor snaps of stationary targets, I found shooting my 4 month puppy (that didn't sound right), dodging and running was a near impossibility. Doesn't seem different camera app, ROM or update will solve the problem as it is hardware driven.
I'll be selling my Mi Max when another large screen phone with good camera comes around (Honor Note 8, Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra or Lenovo phab 2 pro), but meanwhile I love the large form factor an quick response of the SD 652.
But the screen: That's the last of my concerns. actually only the camera bothers me)
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Agree! Apart from the camera, this phone leaves little room for complaint. I was wondering if there is some way ige quality can be improved through some software tweak or better preset shooting mode configurations. Tried Open camera, CameraNext Mod and Focal. Did notice a slight difference. But low light photos still frankly suck when I compare it to my previous LG G Pro 2.
Wondering what do you guys expect from a under $300 phone... It has plenty for that price already.
thanks guys, it is not problem in expecting much for low money. I had almost all samsung flagships in last few years (s4, s6, note 1, note 3, note 4, now note 5). I want big screen- and is there better solution?
Huawei have some but software is terrible for my opinion... and no development at all...
I will, if buy max, install cm first minute- so how it works is there any major problem (autobrightness or big battery drain). Camera is last important for me...
ajsmsg78 said:
Don't worry about the screen, it's fine. I use Color Control from the Play Store to calibrate the saturation. Now it looks like an AMOLED minus the deep blacks. You'll be satisfied with the screen in the Mi Max.
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would you provide the link of this app?
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auldthief said:
Agree! Apart from the camera, this phone leaves little room for complaint. I was wondering if there is some way ige quality can be improved through some software tweak or better preset shooting mode configurations. Tried Open camera, CameraNext Mod and Focal. Did notice a slight difference. But low light photos still frankly suck when I compare it to my previous LG G Pro 2.
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you can try manual camera app to set shutter speed as high as possible to shot moving objects
hes_luckey said:
would you provide the link of this app?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.omegacentauri.red&hl=en
They have a free version and a pro version. I bought the pro version.
So this bluish cast or generally can be fixed? Screen is not bad, just not so good calibrated initially?
ivanox1972 said:
So this bluish cast or generally can be fixed? Screen is not bad, just not so good calibrated initially?
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Yes it can be adjusted. It's honestly not that bad even without adjustments.
Nothing wrong with the screen. I have never thought about wanting to calibrate it. I don't think it has a blue cast. My XA Ultra on the other hand...
I use the glare removal reading setting for apps that I spend a long time looking at. It adds a yellowish cast to the screen. I suffer insomnia so blue light is a concern for me. My sleep hasn't been great since buying the max but that's entirely due to not being able to put it down! I use twilight also to counter blue light at night.
I bought my Max (3/32) from Xiaomi Authorized store, and wanna say, it's not bluish! BUT, my friend got the "best" version, and the screen of his phone is... little yellow-ish, or something like that. He got his phone from Gearbest, that's what i know. Before Mi Max i used another phones with 6,44" screen size - Sony Z Ultra's. Every phone (i replaced 3) had differently calibrated screen. The best way is to get phone and (if you don't like calibration) tune screen for your preferences. We all have little different eyes.
Reviews really not like this screen, but ok.
I would go on cm13 of course: how is camera quality and autobrighness there?
Every phone has this problem on cm...
I thought the screen was pretty good, the reviewers must be spoilt constantly around $800 phones. For this price point I was quite impressed.
Does anyone know who makes the LCD panel?
F27 said:
I thought the screen was pretty good, the reviewers must be spoilt constantly around $800 phones. For this price point I was quite impressed.
Does anyone know who makes the LCD panel?
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tianma r63350 1080p video mode dsi panel
Is kcal calibrating screen apk supported on cm 13- cm14? I do not know is it working on snapdragon 650/ 652?
Or any other app generally, how big improvement can be made on screen picture quality?
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Text blurring when scrollen.

So i sold my Mi Mix 2 when this issue occur my question is do many of u have blurry text when scrolling?
Afaik that's because it's an IPS display which has the benefit of amazing color accuracy at the drawback of pixel response time.
It really bothered me when I first got the phone coming from an AMOLED phone, but after a few weeks I stopped noticing it. I have a really fast high-end TN panel for gaming on my PC, and looking at the colors between that and my phone are a really astounding difference.
I use my phone as a monitor for all photos and graphics I make for now (I'm not a professional so I don't need a specific high end monitor for this)
Yes the scrolling is blurring... With a little red ghosting too I notice (only I the dark I see that)
I understand it is an issue of the used lcd, but previously on my Xiaomi redmi note 4 I didn't had that issue so bad that I would notice also on my LG g6 it was not visible like on the Mi mix 2 even on a huawei p9 it was barely visible.
I noticed as well, but when I switched to the Oreo EU rom it was barely noticeable.
Has anyone checked out the Mi Mix 2s to see if this ghosting is fixed? This is really my favorite phone as it is bootloader unlocked and it has a fully functional AOSP build on it,but the ghosting and text blur still bothers me after weeks of use.
I have read according to benchmarks that the refresh rate is improved by around 10ms on the 2s, but I would like to confirm the issue is fixed before spending the money on one. Like I said, this phone is perfect to me aside from the ghosting.
jal3223 said:
Has anyone checked out the Mi Mix 2s to see if this ghosting is fixed? This is really my favorite phone as it is bootloader unlocked and it has a fully functional AOSP build on it,but the ghosting and text blur still bothers me after weeks of use.
I have read according to benchmarks that the refresh rate is improved by around 10ms on the 2s, but I would like to confirm the issue is fixed before spending the money on one. Like I said, this phone is perfect to me aside from the ghosting.
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unfortunately my mix 2s has very noticeable ghosting.
zigbug said:
unfortunately my mix 2s has very noticeable ghosting.
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Thanks for letting me know man. I hate to spend the money on getting a 2s if the issue is still present. I love everything else about the 2, so I may as well keep it if the issue remains. Thank you!
Is there a way to change this "ghosting" effect ? Even if it means more lags during scrolling ?
I come from an LG G3 whose screen was really better (good colors, no text ghosting..)

Screen ghosting/image retention

Anyone else seeing or facing issues of image retention/screen ghosting (I don't know what it's exactly called) on redmi note 5 pro? I noticed it for the first time on grey backgrounds. I guess I've had this device for about 4-5 months now.
no issue here
I am, too, experiencing a lot of screen retention, even on low brightness and reading mode on on my Redmi Note 5 AI. Mostly noticable on gray or dark colored backgrounds. They do disappear after a few minutes.
My friend who also has a RN5AI with the same display panel but a lower TP version (0x16 as opposed to my 0x22 in the CIT test menu) experiences no screen retention whatsoever, and his display is actually generally cooler in color on the same settings.
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I am, too, experiencing a lot of screen retention, even on low brightness and reading mode on on my Redmi Note 5 AI. Mostly noticable on gray or dark colored backgrounds. They do disappear after a few minutes.
My friend who also has a RN5AI with the same display panel but a lower TP version (0x16 as opposed to my 0x22 in the CIT test menu) experiences no screen retention whatsoever, and his display is actually generally cooler in color on the same settings.
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Okay, so I have a tianma 0x22 panel on my RN5P as well, and the screen retention is only visible on grey or dark backgrounds, I'm thinking of sending the phone in for a display replacement soon. But
xezrunner said:
I am, too, experiencing a lot of screen retention, even on low brightness and reading mode on on my Redmi Note 5 AI. Mostly noticable on gray or dark colored backgrounds. They do disappear after a few minutes.
My friend who also has a RN5AI with the same display panel but a lower TP version (0x16 as opposed to my 0x22 in the CIT test menu) experiences no screen retention whatsoever, and his display is actually generally cooler in color on the same settings.
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I'm on 0x22 version too, but I not face any image retention since I bought it 3 months ago.

Does X2 has black crush issue

i am contemplating between oneplus 8 pro and x2, does x2 has display issues like 8 pro?
black crush , etc?
No. I too moved away from the OnePlus 8 Pro after replacing 3 OnePlus 8 Pro devices with various issues such as Black Crush and display uniformity. I eventually opted for a refund and got the Oppo Find X2. The display on my Find X2 is very uniform and there seems no visible black crush except when the brightness is at it's lowest. At the lowest brightness, the colors seem very washed out. This is very definitely a software issue I assume.

General Pixel 6 Pro on display at Best Buy - Impressions

The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro are on display at many Best Buy stores. My initial impression of the 6 Pro was it looks just like the Galaxy S21 Ultra from the front, and the build feels very premium. The "Stormy Black" is only black around the frame and a rather dull gray on the back, however a case will be covering it up for most people anyways. The Cloudy White or Sorta Sunny are more striking for those who don't use a case. The phone is very fast and smooth with a completely clean software experience. The screens on both models was adequately bright but max brightness appears noticeably dimmer than the S21 UItra. Camera quality was outstanding but it was hard to do any comparison. The smaller Pixel 6 is not as premium feeling, it looks just like the Galaxy S20 FE, and the screen is not as vibrant. The Pro is definitely the winner and should satisfy those who want a "Samsung running stock Android".
Android 12 feels a bit incomplete. As of the pre-release software in store, there was no way to customize the Always on Display style, the color picking from the wallpaper was very limited, and there are no icon or font customizations. In many ways, it feels like Google is going the route of Apple by taking away any customizations that drastically alter the look and feel of the phone. I'm hopeful that the bootloader is unlockable so that we can tweak things a bit more. I'm looking forward to getting this phone.
The smaller 6 looks better than the Pro to me. The real difference is screen curve vs flat. Even the QHD is barely noticeable in real life. I wish the Pro had that flat screen.
Guyinlaca said:
max brightness appears noticeably dimmer than the S21 UItra.
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Thanks for sharing this impression. Was it the 6 or the 6 Pro that were dimmer than the S21 Ultra?
Did you manually adjust the brightness slider all the way to max on the Pixel & Samsung?
CZ Eddie said:
Thanks for sharing this impression. Was it the 6 or the 6 Pro that were dimmer than the S21 Ultra?
Did you manually adjust the brightness slider all the way to max on the Pixel & Samsung?
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They stated the 6 pro, which goes along with what another thread was talking about, not going higher than 800nits. I don't think the person is mentally challenged, I'm sure they checked the sliders.
Pretty much every YouTube pixel 6 pro comparison, they said it is on pair with the s21 and the iPhone 13 max. I can vouch for them because I have seen it in person. I couldn't tell the difference
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Pretty much every YouTube pixel 6 pro comparison, they said it is on pair with the s21 and the iPhone 13 max. I can vouch for them because I have seen it in person. I couldn't tell the difference
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The brightness?
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The brightness?
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Correct.
hello00 said:
Correct.
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Thanks. Coming from an s21U who's display and brightness is stunning, I'm hoping the P6P can match it.
I too had an experience of holding the Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 6 at my local BB. For whatever reason, the device will keep resetting whenever I tried to swipe up to go to the home screen. It happened on both Pixel 6s phone. May be it's a Google thing . Anyway, I liked the startup animation. I liked the Pro version better than the regular Pixel 6. Here's the Pixel 6 Pro/Pixel 6 startup animation video that I captured on my aging Pixel 3
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I went to a local O2 store in the UK earlier, to get a 5G ready SIM for when my Pixel 6 Pro arrives.
They had a Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro on display. I didn't get a good look as the store was empty and was attended as soon as I walked in.
Yes, all the phones were set at Max brightness. The S21 Ultra was definitely brighter, though the Pixel 6 Pro was still more than adequate for the bright store lighting. The display saturation on the 6 Pro is great, and very similar to the S21 Ultra. The regular 6 screen had a more muted tone to it but seemed about as bright as the pro.
krips2003 said:
I too had an experience of holding the Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 6 at my local BB. For whatever reason, the device will keep resetting whenever I tried to swipe up to go to the home screen. It happened on both Pixel 6s phone. May be it's a Google thing . Anyway, I liked the startup animation. I liked the Pro version better than the regular Pixel 6. Here's the Pixel 6 Pro/Pixel 6 startup animation video that I captured on my aging Pixel 3
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Thanks! Very colorful and acid-induced.
Went and saw one myself yesterday at BB. Made me more excited for the phone. I'm most excited about the bigger size. My hands/thumbs are big and I have a hard time messaging. Anyway, the screen was gorgeous. You can definitely tell the difference between its fluidity and my pixel 4xl. No lag, no stutter, which I experience often on my 4xl. I didn't get but maybe two or three minutes with it though. I'm definitely happy with my purchase. It'll be a big upgrade from my 4xl.
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I too had an experience of holding the Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 6 at my local BB. For whatever reason, the device will keep resetting whenever I tried to swipe up to go to the home screen. It happened on both Pixel 6s phone. May be it's a Google thing . Anyway, I liked the startup animation. I liked the Pro version better than the regular Pixel 6. Here's the Pixel 6 Pro/Pixel 6 startup animation video that I captured on my aging Pixel 3
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Holy crap, that nausea inducing animation will be the FIRST thing I delete. Hopefully that boot time is a function of the "alarm" thing jammed into the USB port and is not indicative of reality, otherwise it looks insanely slow. Boot animation on most phones runs for about 5-10 seconds.
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Thanks! Very colorful and acid-induced.
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My devices always perform better on LSD!
96carboard said:
Holy crap, that nausea inducing animation will be the FIRST thing I delete. Hopefully that boot time is a function of the "alarm" thing jammed into the USB port and is not indicative of reality, otherwise it looks insanely slow. Boot animation on most phones runs for about 5-10 seconds.
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Hopefully that is just something 'special' they put on display devices lol
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I too had an experience of holding the Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 6 at my local BB. For whatever reason, the device will keep resetting whenever I tried to swipe up to go to the home screen. It happened on both Pixel 6s phone. May be it's a Google thing . Anyway, I liked the startup animation. I liked the Pro version better than the regular Pixel 6. Here's the Pixel 6 Pro/Pixel 6 startup animation video that I captured on my aging Pixel 3
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The resetting was probably because the devices were running on store demo. It cycles through some images/videos .. you have to close the demo to use the phone normally.
Also, that animation looks like its from the demo too..
Also, seeing reports of heat from the demos, which I also noticed. However being at 100% brightness and charging, I can't fault them for running warm after 15 minutes.
Can someone reply what is the front camera quality on 6pro?is it blurs the face like the pixel 5?
How's the volume, always struggling to hear my pixel 5 around noise.

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