How to get mobile data while connected to wifi that has no internet - OnePlus 5T Questions & Answers

I need this fairly often. I have a current need to upgrade a wifi camera that needs to be connected to its inhouse mobile app with internet access at the same time.
I have other needs for this. I have devices on local networks that do not have internet. These devices are remote controllable over ip, but i have to give up internet on my phone. I have had previous phones work in this application.
-Developer option "mobile data always active" has no effect, rebooted to be sure
-I have NEVER had any smart Wi-Fi switcher wifi setting suit my needs. Same today
-not rooted
-Oxygen 5.1.3 8.1 OREO
Todd

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[Q] Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

Hello,
I want to use portable Wi-Fi hotspot on my phone to connect to my laptop in places where public wi-fi is not available, or to connect to two computers to each other. And it seems to be working.
But I have a problem. I do not want to use mobile network to access Internet for those computers. I want only to exchange data between phone and computer, or between computers themselves.
But every time I switch on hotspot, 3G connection switches on automatically, even if it is switched off on purpose. I know this is intended use of hotspot, but I have a question:
Is there a way to prevent phone switching 3G network on in wi-fi hotspot mode, or just preventing data traffic over 3G?
Or I am missing the point completely?
The application is not intended for such usage; all it does is route traffic between connected wlan-clients and the carrier's apn. The phone itself has the ip-address 192.168.1.1 during this setup, but it is not listening on any ports that would be useful for your setup (ie 'cifs/samba').
LeeCHeSSS said:
The application is not intended for such usage; all it does is route traffic between connected wlan-clients and the carrier's apn. The phone itself has the ip-address 192.168.1.1 during this setup, but it is not listening on any ports that would be useful for your setup (ie 'cifs/samba').
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I do not know if I do understand you but here are the facts:
I connect two dell laptops to portable wi-fi hotspot on my wildfire s:
one is : 192.168.1.135
other : 192.168.1.185
I can ping one from another. If I share a folder in one (.135) and go to others(.185) "Search for computers or people" I see all files in shared folder and can do all the usual operations over them (edit, move...)
Also if I install Remote Web Desktop from Market on my phone I can access phone through web interface.
In a word, I can do all things as on "normal" wi-fi network ( and I promise it is the only network around here ) except all the time I have 3G switched on. And I do not want to do that because I see my network data traffic going up.
So, as I see things, my only problem is unwanted 3G traffic.
Help?
Ah, but you did not mention that you had installed a seperate application to open up a port for the webinterface.
This however does not change the intended usage for the mobile wifi hotspot application!
hey...you can try this:
1. go to your mobile network settings
2. create a new APN, a dummy one
3. set the new APN as default
4. launch your wifihotspot
I did not test it with 2 pcs but, when u launch wifihotspot, 3g no longer comes on and my pc still connected to the wireless network without any problems.
Let us know your results
Cheers,
Hey,
I ran more test on this issue. The previous posted solution works like a charm.
I was able to use the wifihotspot as a wireless access point:
1. 2 or more PCs can communicate with each other (browse folders)
2. If one of the PCs has internet access, it shares to the rest of the PCs
3. If one of the PCs has an ethernet connection to a server, all other PCs also get connection to the server
For 3. to work, you will need to brigde the local area connection with the wireless connection on the PC that has cabled ethernet connection. Also browsing folders will work only if you use \\server ip (\\servername does not work).
I will try getting DNS access via the hotspot later.
Hope this helps

Wildfire S and Ipad 1

ok so today I bought an HTC wildfire S with an internet dataplan.
Presently have an IPAD 1 without the 3G option so needed to find a mobile phone that can tether with it. They recommended me this mobile as they said it needs to have the wifi hotspot option.
Can someone link me to some info on what is needed to be installed and setup to make it work with my IPAD.
Thanks to all.
Hi,
Your phone already have all it needs for tethering. Just go to setings>Wireless&networks > portable wi-fi hotspot setings and set all parameters you like (SSID name, security type -wep, wap, wap2 ans set a password). After go back to wireless & networks and activate portable wi-fi hotspot (before that you have to activate Mobile network, otherwise will be a wi-fi network without internet connexion) and voila... you should see the new created wi-fi netword with the SSID you chose on your Ipad wi-fi manager.
Good luck
Thanks....
felt stupid after I switched on for the first time my mobile and found the Wifi hotspot in the menu thought it was an app I had to download....

[Q] Lollipop Wifi Policy

Ive searched the web and read about countless issues about lollipop wifi. but im looking for something specific which i cannot find elsewhere:
on KitKat when connecting to a hotspot (or any wifi for that matter) it would instantly connect to wifi and switch to that connection, regardless if the connection gave internet access or not.
on LP it seems to remain connected to mobile data and wifi does not give an IP address until a hotspot is logged in (using the sign in to wifi notification)
the problem is it doesnt always show, is there a way to switch the wifi policy to not perform a soft handover? or does this need to be baked into a rom?
I have an app that auto-logs into wifi hotspots for me, but because it does not get an IP address and apps are not able to use that connection, it does not work as intended.
FYI i am NOT talking about wifi to mobile data handover, its the other way around

[Q] Connecting to internetless wifi

Hi i used to create my own hotspots when i still had ADSL from my windows 7 machine. All my phones tablets other PC's would connect to it with no problem whatsoever.
I have found other uses for wifi networks that do not require an internet connection. Now seeing as i do not have an internet connection on my computer and some of these that i use only work if the network is not started by the phone, the hotspot has no internet connection.
This is where I think Android says screw the wifi without an internet connection lets use cellular to do things. The error it throws up is "Avoided Poor Internet Connection".
Is there a way to fix this without connecting the hotspot to an internet connection & without rooting or modding my M8?
slugger7 said:
Hi i used to create my own hotspots when i still had ADSL from my windows 7 machine. All my phones tablets other PC's would connect to it with no problem whatsoever.
I have found other uses for wifi networks that do not require an internet connection. Now seeing as i do not have an internet connection on my computer and some of these that i use only work if the network is not started by the phone, the hotspot has no internet connection.
This is where I think Android says screw the wifi without an internet connection lets use cellular to do things. The error it throws up is "Avoided Poor Internet Connection".
Is there a way to fix this without connecting the hotspot to an internet connection & without rooting or modding my M8?
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Settings > Wifi > advanced
turn off auto-switch to mobile network
This should help
Another one in developer settings (however not ticked by default)
Settings > developer options
turn off aggressive wi-fi to cellular handover
These should help you if not already enabled. If they aren't then I'm afraid I don't know

Problems to create 5ghz hotspot

Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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josehdx said:
Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
Patrick Morgan said:
some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
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Hey Patrick
Thanks again for your answer
I read about that limitation in a oneplus forum but I don't really know how to check that.
Actually, i can add something to my issue
While i am reporting the hotspot issue, i must said i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont want to confuse you
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
So, going back to the original issue, i am not sure if it is a country restriction. I usually live.in Hungary but i am now in poland and i received the device on this last country.
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
josehdx said:
Hey Patrick
i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
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sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
Patrick Morgan said:
sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
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Well. I know there was going to be some confusion.
The hotspot does not work with 5ghz even without vpn.
When i use my home wifi, I connect from my phone (no mobile data) to my vpn provider and then with another app, "vpn hotspot" (root required) i can share the vpn traffic to external devices via hotspot. When I do these steps sometimes 5ghz works, and i say sometimes cause I left the "vpn hotspot" wifi setting as default. I might change some network options there but, those options are not available for hotspot within "vpn hotspot" this is why i am blaming the ROM, But maybe you are right and there is some interference between apps. I will try to flush the settings one more time
I have flushed the rules of the vpn hotspot app and tried again. Working fine with and without vpn!
Thanks
I see.
You are trying to filter your wifi connection at home through your phones wifi and share thst connection to other wifi devices.
I dont believe it will work correctly. you're essentially trying to create a wifi repeater.
You're making your wifi chip do 2 things, and its unable to run two streams at the same time.
It state in the Hotspot settings
" Use hotspot to provide internet to other devices through your mobile data"
If you want to connect to your home wifi with your phone, and share thst connection with another device you must use USB tethering.
You risk causing damage to your wifi chip trying to force two connections on it.
using repeater apps, does cause the signal strength to degrade, (bacause you're using the same antenna to receive your home wifi and to create its own wifi. limiting the bandwith and can cause connection issues over time.
the wifi chips in android phone can create a repeating wifi signal, but they're not made to do it. normally as stock android runs when you enable wifi hotspot, it stops the current wifi connecting to create a new wifi access point. using apps to get around that may cause issues and even damage as i stated above. if your wifi chip breaks due to improper use, it will need a warranty return.

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