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[Q] why so little support for the LG G3 but the G S5 has so much?

I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?

garrettstump said:
I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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Yes, more people bought it, so there are more devs.
What exactly you want developed for G3?
Kernels? Nah, you can't jump higher than lg did. It's already optimised. You can, of course, add some GCC flags, change toolchain, etc etc etc... For a marginal improvement, at best. Well, you can add undervolting, some modules (ntfs, gamepads, etc), advanced sound control... What else?..
Roms? Well, developing "only for G3!" roms isn't the best idea. Besides, some popular AOSP roms are already ported to g3, ones that haven't been ported don't even have stable 5.0 builds yet. Modding stock rom is almost impossible right now, apktool doesn't fully support neither 5.0, neither lg's special apk's (two apk's with id of 127 sharing resources? LG-way, lol.), so good custom roms aren't even possible yet.
And no, we won't get more support. If you want tons of support - buy Samsung.

I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!

pikachukaki said:
I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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i agree with both of the posts here and to really answer the first question, there is nothing that i specifically want developed i just was kinda confused as to why the forums are not filled with roms and kernals but you made a good point about saying quality over quantity.. I do really enjoy this phone and consider it the top of the line right now but we will see......

Honestly we have a fair amount of roms at this stage and it will only get better and better but as far as kernels goes I'd wish to see some more with overclocking/undervolting/profiles features in them ..
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device

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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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nc35 said:
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk
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Been offered a straight trade for HTC one M8 might take them up on it

As a person coming from Samsung S2, S3, Note 3, I can say that Lg is doing a great job with the G2/G3 stock software! Way better than Samsung! Yes you'll find fingerprint features and some other useless bells and whistles, but LG software is solid, almost lag free, and battery life is king!
During my lifetime with Samsung, I spent most of my time cheating its software with Cyanogenmod.
So, would I be sad to not have the same amount of support on S5? Definitely no! I think what we have is valuable and I haven't felt yet that I need to run away to CM11/12.
manemzjum said:
Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
I know some have stated they see lag in the UI such as when they open a drawer, or swipe between screens and such. I guess I've never noticed that before, so maybe they come from a different phone that responded better in their eyes. Things that can help are possibly reducing the animation, but a possible issue could be the screen size. This phone packs a lot more pixels in it than the S5, so I could see how rendering on a screen with a larger pixel density could cause this. However, for me, I don't really notice it, and even if it is there, it must not be a huge amount or else I'd notice it.
As for battery life, I don't know what people are expecting. I get at least a days (24 hours) worth. Now, granted I'm running Greenify which has helped me on other phones, so I'm sure that has a hand in it. However, there was a time I wasn't running Greenify at first with this phone and I remember having the phone charged at 100% when I went to bed, took it off the charger, left it on (I used it as an alarm clock plus as my on-call phone) and when I woke up 6+ hours later, it was STILL at 100%. Adding Greenify has helped to prevent apps from wake locking, but that's not the phone's fault. That's how some apps are written and that in and of itself can cause battery drain, but it's even worse if you out-right kill the app/service all the time.
I make and take phone calls (not all day, mind you), I send and receive texts (not every minute). I do play games (Game of War a lot) and that does drain the battery, but that's going to happen on any phone. I've listen to music on my phone, especially when driving to/from work and other errands. One time, I must have logged over 2 hours on Power Amp. I wanted to see how much it drained the battery, so I kept note of where the battery was at when I started listening and where it was when I stopped listening. Over a two hour total period of listening to music, the battery drained 2%. Not bad if you ask me.
I'm just curious because right now, with this phone, I'm getting better battery life than I did with my RAZR MAXX and my RAZR HD phones. This phone I could possibly go two days before charging. After about 36 hours, I'm at 40% battery, so I could probably go another 12 hours, but when I get to 40%, that's when I start charging back up again.
I'm not trying to dispute what people are saying. I'm just curious as to what people are expecting vs. what they are getting (or perceive as getting) from this phone. Again, most of the time, we get generic statements as "battery life sucks" or "it lags". Great. Please back that up with examples because otherwise, it's all in the eye of the beholder as to what great or sucky battery life is and/or what lag is.
Just to show, im currently at 60% after 21 hours of use. That's with phone calls, playing Game of War, texting, etc. I've attached the screenshot as well.

Just comparing to my Note 3, with stock FW but apex launcher.
Battery would last in excess of a day with quite heavy use, games Internet browsing etc. BT always on auto brightness.
Apps would also open instantly or as expected.
The G3 can has a battery life of less than 4hrs with little or no use. Consumes 18-19% in 7hrs overnight.
Finding myself charging the phone at every opportunity.
I know the Note 3 didn't come with qi, but the qi on the G3 is sooo picky. 1mm off and it doesn't charge.
Using stock launcher just pressing home, first the wallpaper loads followed by the icons then the widgets. No what would be called snappy.
And OMG does it get hot!!! For no reason at all. Not playing games, just emails and Web browsing.
So now I am left wondering if the phone is faulty.
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iBolski said:
I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
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I have both "issues".
"poor" is g3's screen-on time on 5.0 while browsing using 4g. 5-5:30 hours on latest firmwares isn't much. It was nearly 7 hours on 4.4.2... I always set brightness to 20% auto, lighting conditions are always same.
I use phone for browsing and listening to locally stored music via Bluetooth. No watching or shooting videos or playing games.
After 5 hours of 4g web browsing i am left with empty battery.
Lag:
I define lag as "animation stuttering". I am seeing it everywhere: Vkontakte, Google Play Store, while opening drawer, switching tasks, etc... It lags often, but not always.
I have 47 user apps installed, 0 additional system apps.
The only apps that keep background services or use alarms are: Aqua mail, LMT, SBH52 smart headset, Titanium backup.
There are 4 apps using GCM for push.
There are 6 accounts (Google, Shazam, Skype, VK, tutu.ru and one money app) at sync section.
And i have got 5.4 gb free out of 25 on intsd. Shouldn't slow down writing much.
A perfect setup, right? But it still lags on official firmware.

I would assume you aren't running anything like Greenify, etc. What it sounds like is there are a lot of wake locks going on. That's where Greenify comes in. I also turn off a lot of syncs as I don't need them. As you can see with my screenshot, 60% is where I was at after 21 hours so thus phone can definitely get good battery life. But, if you do a lot of stuff for hours, no phone can keep it's battery life for long. Also, with the quad hd screen this phone has, that is a big drain, but even then, I'm getting great battery life.
Another thing with going to 5.0, it's best to start fresh. Do a factory data reset and start from scratch. Going from 4.x to 5.0, especially with Lollipop, had a lot of changes underneath the hood. There are others getting better or the same battery life, but i also think it all depends on usage.

I dont know with other guys here.but i am very happy with the lg g3 forums
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I already dumped mine at a huge loss. I would say worst phone ever, but that goes to my first Android, the Moto Backflip. Thank goodness my other phone is a M8.

Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement

Only thing i'm having problems with is the fact that the ram is always overload. Used titanium to remove and freeze alot of stuff but still the ram usage is about 1.3 to 1.6gb.
This is on stock rom which is very good to me with no lag and everything an launcher needs.
Battery life from the G3 is very good, on my previous phone I was affraid to leave the house if the battery wasn't filled to 100% with the G3 i left yesterday at 62% and returned from work with still 46% (off course with no heavy use) while my data is always on.
Conclusion for me after a month of use, good value for the money.

manemzjum said:
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
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Greenify isn't for lag. It's for battery life.
Again, each to his own. I think it all depends on the perception of the user and what they expect and what they've gotten in the past from other phones.
Form me, this phone blows the RAZR MAXX and RAZR HD out of the water, which is what I came from and I get great battery life (well over 36 hours) before I have to recharge. And even then, at 40%, I probably could go another 12 hours but I choose not to.
Just last night, before I went to bed, the phone was at 100%. When I woke up 6 hours later, it went down only 2%, so I had 98% battery left. I've since used it to check email, read the news, played about 45 minutes of Game of War and did some updates via Google Play and I'm at 90%. That's after 9 hours since I last charged. I'd say those are pretty darn good stats for me.
Again, mileage may vary from user to user and what they expect. And from the responses I'm seeing, that's what I'm gathering. Some are saying the phone is great, others say it's okay, and others say it's awful coming from another phone. So, that definitely shows that it's all in the eye of the beholder.
But I appreciate what everyone has posted. It does appear that some who didn't like this phone have been able to find a phone that works great for them. I always try to state why a phone works great "for me" because that's what it is. It's not necessarily going to work great for someone else, but I also don't want to steer someone towards this phone if it doesn't meet their needs, so I try to explain why and how it works for me as I'm the user of this phone, and everyone else might use it differently.
Ciao!

I don't get why a lot of people are complaining about lag and support and s*** like that.
You are getting lag probably because:
(A) You don't know how to use your phone.
(B) You picked up the 16GB model (which only has 2GB RAM
(C) You're not rooted (seriously, who doesn't root their phones nowadays)
When I got this phone, I didn't have it rooted for a month. Everything was smooth despite having a lot of apps installed. It only became a lag machine when I installed Facebook and its Messenger app.
Yes there are lags from time to time, but do iPhones not lag? Of course they do, all phones do. I don't see all you guys' point.
A good phone doesn't need any sort of custom ROM and kernel, etc etc. Mine has always been on Stock ROM and Kernel, minimal lag. iPhone-like smoothness, I must say (but plus good multitasking. iOS multitasking is s***) In fact, when I upgraded to Android 5.0, it got even better.
I have stayed stock most of the time but I always have Greenify installed, (but battery life was still great before rooting and installing Greenify)
You people are just picky.

Not sure why people are seeing 18%+ drop in battery overnight in standby mode. Must either have a lot of synching going on or a misbehaving app or two.
Me, when I'm at home, WiFi is turned on. I have minimal syncing (apps, calendar, google+, photos).
Here is a screenshot I took this morning. When I first woke up, I was down to 98% overnight (was at 100% when I went to bed at midnight and when I woke at 6:30 am, it dropped only 2%).
At the time I took this screenshot, I had already read the news, did some updates, checked emails, and played about 30 minutes of Game of War and I was down to 94%. That seems like good battery life to me.
Of course, if you really want to improve the battery life of this phone, maybe you can go to Amazon and get this upgrade for the G3:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...id=1411938311&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
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[Q] Overheating 🔥?

I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.

Bboy_LeoGun said:
I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.
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Actually if it was overheating then the phone would automatically shut down to prevent damage, but yes the phone does get hot rather quickly. But I've had glass and aluminum phones before and they always get hot fast since metal retains heat.

Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176

yes it does get hot once in every 3-4 days & when I say it means really hot..

s6 edge overheating
How can we fix this overheating issue?

quis5550 said:
How can we fix this overheating issue?
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Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?

SuperSport said:
Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?
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Smart switch is not working for everyone. Hit or a miss thing.

My phone heats up to 44 C
What is the Warning Level is it safe till 45 or 50 Celsius ?
It happens when
1) On use of Google Maps while driving
2) Charging
3) When i use Sandisk OTG, to the extent that it stop the Transfer & freezes
4) Even if i Record Videos sometimes
5) While wireless charging
This is really bad Never had such a Issue

I agree with some of the sentiments here that the device can seemingly get pretty warm - especially when I tweaking things or using apps that use a lot of CPU or using the camera for too long. But I do believe a lot of it is related to the aluminum/glass case - I believe Samsung is basically taking advantage of the case as a though it were a heatsink - releasing all the heat into your hand/pocket/air.

This is truly the first phone i've had that manages to stay under 100° F even when cpu frequency is locked to the maximum and I'm playing very gpu-intensive games, provided that i'm not charging the battery and the phone is not in an unusually warm environmnt like a hot car. I should mention that i'm rooted and lots of preloaded software has been removed. I would download some sort of process monitor and check it to see if there's a misbehaving app to blame if this is happening regularly.

SuperSport said:
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.

LoganAlexander said:
Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.
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For the record, mine just hit 85C while running AnTuTu. As far as daily use, it made a world of difference on my phone when I flashed the stock firmware the first time. The phone was terribly hot in my pocket when I was not doing anything, and it was SUPER laggy when I was. Not something I expected from this phone. After the flash, it was a Beast and ran MUCH cooler. It would get warm still when doing intensive tasks, but that would be expected from an Octa-core phone in my opinion. It does not get uncomfortably hot anymore, like it used to though. I would imagine it went WAY above 85C when it got hot before, because it was actually hard to hold at times.
If you have not flashed it since new, I would highly recommend it. I know it's a pain, but it's a one time thing that you never have to do again, and the benefit MIGHT be large. No guarantees, as you may not have the same issue, but I've received a lot of reports from people who have done it and they say it breathed new life into their phones. For me personally, it was DEFINITELY not a placebo affect. It was night and day.
With all that said, I've got my S6 Edge up for sale right now as I've moved to Apple for a little while. I continually jump around, and T-Mobile offered the iPhone 6 for $15/mo and I can trade it in 3 times in the next 18 months for free and keep paying $15/mo for the newest phone. I'm looking forward to seeing the difference in the iPhone 6s. If it sucks, I'll be trading it in shortly for another Android phone.
PS: AnTuTu final score: 69314!!!! Wow!!!
One more thing. To eliminate ALL lag and slowdown, I replaced the Samsung Launcher with the Google Launcher. What a difference that alone makes! Seriously, try that one thing. It's huge. The Samsung Launcher has some issue somewhere that they still need to address.

SuperSport said:
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?

venkatgaddam said:
I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?
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It should. As long as Smart Switch can recognize your phone model and download the Correct Firmware, the Flash WILL help the Heating and Lagging problem. If your phone is not recognized, then Smart Switch will not do anything. It's worth a try.

For me it happens especially when im playing arround with that samsung theme store build in app. I don't know why that app needs so much power to have that effect on the phone but for sure its something samsung needs to look at.
For sure they need to re-design that app from the scratch. Its like the "my first homepage" of theme apps.

How are your device doing ?

Hello my friends, I've been a user of this tablet since 2014 and i came to the point that im done with it. So i made this thread because im curious how are you guys out there holding up with yer Notes 10.1 too. Here are my current issues :
Every time i flash something its a time to pray a lot, lots of force closes. Even if i flash a factory image in odin and then flash a rom the odds are of a lot of trouble coming, you wont believe how many times FireFox died today on the same page.
TWRP is a no go for me. I usually can successfully restore a backup on a 1/5 ratio and since a wrongly restored backup ends sealing the death of the current installed rom its easier to just wipe everything and start from the scratch again.
I was in such a shock after rooting my Motorola Droid Turbo, because it didn't blow up or something. The Samsung knoxx software is just troublesome. I didn't wanted to switch to CM13 because of dead camera and some other bugs. But hey that's what has been happening to me, how are yours tab holding up guys? Mine is p601 by the way, maybe the other models are doing better.:silly:

Hmm, probably you just have a defective device?
I have a second hand P600, the WiFi model, been using it for over a year without much hindrance, and I average over 8 hours of screen time over 4 to 5 days of usage. 9 to 10 hours if used for continuous web browsing. The only problem is the WiFi antenna/driver might be buggered somewhere, because like once every couple of months it would completely forget a previously used WiFi point, like literally cannot even see the SSID listed on the WiFi screen, and the only solution is to either change the frequency of the point from 2.4 Ghz to 5 Ghz, and if that didn't work, to completely flash a new ROM. Luckily that only happened once, and just before I flashed a new ROM for unrelated reasons.
Regarding the modding part, I've flashed lots of ROMs and kernels, and the only significant problem is from running xluco's kernel, absolutely nothing wrong with that one other than the frequent restart due to some S Pen problem. The device would randomly restart itself at any moment the S Pen is used, and the fix that was provided by him in his thread didn't do much to change this. I suspect each S Pen model is different though, I used the larger type that Samsung provided for the older Note 10 model, it runs smooth under completely stock Lollipop ROM, but crashes the device frequently if I use either Xluco's kernel, or the 4.4.2 Hyperdrive ROM.
TWRP works ok for me, and I have never suffered any app closing issue. Anything more you'd like to ask?

I'm running ZakooZ CM13, customized Valex Kernel flashed via TWRP. This baby flys! No problems with Spen either. Stable and Fast! Oh, the camera works as well!

Pact said:
Hmm, probably you just have a defective device?
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Ye i have the same feeling, i was very confused since we don't see many roms wandering around the 2014 forum, its pretty different from my experience with the Galaxy SII for example. I think it all started back when i tried to change the partition to F2FS, had some troubles with SD card too (multiples mount/dismount) all the info i managed to find was to buy a Samsung SD card instead of using another brand. Most of the CM roms worked ok before flashing GAPPS. Anyway i formatted the SD again and tried to flash pcparaamigos rom and for my surprise it did work (I've always been struck on the "extracting system" on some roms), maybe it was an issue related to the SD card slot since im now using the internal partition to flash roms and do backups, gonna need to run more tests, or i got lucky i dunno, sometimes i get the feeling that my device is a living being or something.
I found also hard to find a new replacement for this tablet, one which has better specs overall, not many 10.1+ screen tablets around and gsmarena doesn't tell if they have Pen support or something, just specs.In the end it feels like this tablet have a lot of potential but $am$ung just forgot about its existence.
hipocrazy said:
I'm running ZakooZ CM13, customized Valex Kernel flashed via TWRP. This baby flys! No problems with Spen either. Stable and Fast! Oh, the camera works as well!
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:fingers-crossed: Gonna take a look at dis!

Not well. I think the device is on it's last legs.
Battery life is beyond terrible, and I even replaced it with a new OEM battery. It was fine for about a week, but it is doing the 30% to 0% within 5 minutes trick again. I wonder if a sensor is out of calibration or is failing? Also, the thing lags beyond belief. Even after a fresh factory reset with no apps installed, it can barely render a webpage without bogging down.
I will end up replacing it; just not sure with what yet. Perhaps a Chromebook that flips between laptop and tablet or another plain 9.7" tablet.

jak341 said:
Not well. I think the device is on it's last legs.
Battery life is beyond terrible, and I even replaced it with a new OEM battery. It was fine for about a week, but it is doing the 30% to 0% within 5 minutes trick again. I wonder if a sensor is out of calibration or is failing? Also, the thing lags beyond belief. Even after a fresh factory reset with no apps installed, it can barely render a webpage without bogging down.
I will end up replacing it; just not sure with what yet. Perhaps a Chromebook that flips between laptop and tablet or another plain 9.7" tablet.
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I had the same issue on the Galaxy SII, a reboot was like 10% of battery per reboot I have my eyes on the Lenovo yoga book or the Yoga Tab 3 Plus, dunno about the projector version, the microcrap surface looks like an interesting device but windows 10 is such a let down. I don't wanna buy another Samsung device because knoxx and update issues.

jak341 said:
Battery life is beyond terrible, and I even replaced it with a new OEM battery. It was fine for about a week, but it is doing the 30% to 0% within 5 minutes trick again. I wonder if a sensor is out of calibration or is failing? Also, the thing lags beyond belief. Even after a fresh factory reset with no apps installed, it can barely render a webpage without bogging down.
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Have you tried battery calibration software? There's this new tweak app released on the Play Store, it's called HEBF Optimizer, has a pretty romantic design and philosophy for that one. Anyways you need to be rooted first, and there's an option within there to calibrate the battery, but make sure you do it while being charged and the battery is at 100% first. Also, perhaps try flashing a new ROM, maybe an AOSP one? I've flashed lots of stuff on my tablet and I've yet to experience any noticeable, prolonged lagging.
E398 said:
I found also hard to find a new replacement for this tablet, one which has better specs overall, not many 10.1+ screen tablets around and gsmarena doesn't tell if they have Pen support or something, just specs.In the end it feels like this tablet have a lot of potential but $am$ung just forgot about its existence.
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There's a new Huawei tablet, it's called the Huawei Matebook 10, that one has an Android version which comes with a wacom digitizer too.
http://surfaceproartist.com/blog/2016/7/25/huawei-matebook-and-matepen-offer-pleasant-surprise
I haven't checked the device personally so I can't say more, since it looks like not many regions has it available for purchase. There's also the Thinkpad Tablet 2, but that one is aging already and uses only Windows.

Pact said:
Have you tried battery calibration software? There's this new tweak app released on the Play Store, it's called HEBF Optimizer, has a pretty romantic design and philosophy for that one. Anyways you need to be rooted first, and there's an option within there to calibrate the battery, but make sure you do it while being charged and the battery is at 100% first. Also, perhaps try flashing a new ROM, maybe an AOSP one? I've flashed lots of stuff on my tablet and I've yet to experience any noticeable, prolonged lagging.
There's a new Huawei tablet, it's called the Huawei Matebook 10, that one has an Android version which comes with a wacom digitizer too.
http://surfaceproartist.com/blog/2016/7/25/huawei-matebook-and-matepen-offer-pleasant-surprise
I haven't checked the device personally so I can't say more, since it looks like not many regions has it available for purchase. There's also the Thinkpad Tablet 2, but that one is aging already and uses only Windows.
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That looks pretty neat, a little xpensiv too :crying: The Thinkpad looks okay too maybe if we cant put a win7 there it can shine. I live near Paraguay and we usually find all kinds of electronics in there! Its a buyers paradise, its my last resort if i can't find the model in my region.

E398 said:
Ye i have the same feeling, i was very confused since we don't see many roms wandering around the 2014 forum, its pretty different from my experience with the Galaxy SII for example. I think it all started back when i tried to change the partition to F2FS, had some troubles with SD card too (multiples mount/dismount) all the info i managed to find was to buy a Samsung SD card instead of using another brand. Most of the CM roms worked ok before flashing GAPPS. Anyway i formatted the SD again and tried to flash pcparaamigos rom and for my surprise it did work (I've always been struck on the "extracting system" on some roms), maybe it was an issue related to the SD card slot since im now using the internal partition to flash roms and do backups, gonna need to run more tests, or i got lucky i dunno, sometimes i get the feeling that my device is a living being or something.
I found also hard to find a new replacement for this tablet, one which has better specs overall, not many 10.1+ screen tablets around and gsmarena doesn't tell if they have Pen support or something, just specs.In the end it feels like this tablet have a lot of potential but $am$ung just forgot about its existence.
:fingers-crossed: Gonna take a look at dis!
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Here's the links ~
Rom
Kernel

hipocrazy said:
Here's the links ~
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Do you happen to know if we have any S-pen support like Air Commander on CM ROMS?

E398 said:
Do you happen to know if we have any S-pen support like Air Commander on CM ROMS?
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Not that I'm aware of.
Edit: heres a quote from another site
"S Note, Action Memo, Screen write(Air command) etc do not work(read about touchwiz if you want to know more on this).
Replacement Apps exist in the Google play store that use some of SPen's functionality -
"CM S Pen Add-on (Root)" with "Note Buddy(Spent helper)" give you a functuonality similar to the stock Samsung's "air command"(that popup that show when you detach your pen)."
I use both of these apps and they function great for what I need.

hipocrazy said:
Not that I'm aware of.
Edit: heres a quote from another site
"S Note, Action Memo, Screen write(Air command) etc do not work(read about touchwiz if you want to know more on this).
Replacement Apps exist in the Google play store that use some of SPen's functionality -
"CM S Pen Add-on (Root)" with "Note Buddy(Spent helper)" give you a functuonality similar to the stock Samsung's "air command"(that popup that show when you detach your pen)."
I use both of these apps and they function great for what I need.
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Thank yo for your help. I'm in a middle of a lot of reading and compiling texts, so this might be my door to the 6.0.1 world

Mine still works pretty fine ... except the touchscreen ... sometimes very randomly it doesn't react to touch any longer only the spen works in those situations.
A quick on off fixes it.
I'm going to replace the battery soon and while i have it open i am going to check the cable.

Mine's still doin ok. On a 1 - 10 scale I'd say mines operating at a 7. The only issue I've ever had is with the battery. After the original battery failed competely I replaced it with an aftermarket one. It was a great improvement over the original battery, but it also brought its own set of issues. Many of the aftermarket batteries for these don't handle heavy loads well, leading to a sudden shutdown. I've reduced my CPU output to remedy this so now it rarely shutsdown under heavier loads. Other than that, I still love mine. No twrp issues, no problems when I flash anything (which I do regularly). Currently running OrionOS Marshmallow, which is a great ROM. All in all, still a great tablet that I have subjected to heavy daily use since it was new and continue to use heavily every single day.

Mine is still fine. I think a lot of the problems come from not using a case with a rigid back. Pressure on the Note's back could lead to the loosening of the connection of the cables running across the battery(display, backlight, touchscreen, usb).
And the plugs of most aftermarket batteries seemingly don't fit properly. So you'd have to reuse the original battery's plug by soldering it to the wires of the new battery. Probably the pins of the plugs can be unpinned with a needle (that works with DIL plugs) and the pins of the new battery fit into the old plug.
Then there's the thing with the bubbles under the screen. This seems to be caused by strong pressure on the capacitive buttons or comes from the closed lid of certain cases, i don't have that problem myself(my Note is from Nov '13).

I don't remember this phone being so slow.

When in first got ot back in the day when it was the fastest phone on the block it was really fast even after installing a bunch of apps. Now I just recently revived it with the lineage nougat Rom which is pretty nice but this phone can barely move. Granted ive installed a bunch of apps but most of them shouldn't be doing much in the background and I remember it having a lot of lag from the get go. I even have this memory manager app set at its most aggressive setting. Could it be an old tired hardware issue or has time really changed the perception of what is fast and I used to actually sit and watch this phone think for long periods of time between tasks? I don't think so. I think these things physically degrade. But idk. You tell me

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When in first got ot back in the day when it was the fastest phone on the block it was really fast even after installing a bunch of apps. Now I just recently revived it with the lineage nougat Rom which is pretty nice but this phone can barely move. Granted ive installed a bunch of apps but most of them shouldn't be doing much in the background and I remember it having a lot of lag from the get go. I even have this memory manager app set at its most aggressive setting. Could it be an old tired hardware issue or has time really changed the perception of what is fast and I used to actually sit and watch this phone think for long periods of time between tasks? I don't think so. I think these things physically degrade. But idk. You tell me
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At the time I also thought that this phone was AMAZING. Granted, my previous phone before Hercules was the Motorola Backflip so it all depends on what you are used to. Now a days, I think my Note 3 is blazing fast and my Hercules is just badly out-dated. I think in the far future when I update my phone again, I will look back at that phone and think it's slow too. Apps become more and more power hungry as they update and require more from a phone as time goes by.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S8+ is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S8+ exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Yes Its really fast
Yes it really fast and reliable, I am using and I advice others to use it. thanks

T-Mobile is fast in Orlando on the S8+.

In my opinion, the S8 is hindered by typical Samsung jitter, transitions and animations stutter all over the place, its really jarring, and its making me reconsider upgrading to the Note 8.

I have been using my Gs8+ for 3 months now and for the first 2 months I was very happy with performance but now I am experiencing hickups. The device gets warm to the touch, a reboot seems to fix the problems for a few hours. Now that I have also bought the new iPad Pro 10.5 it seems like a pile of **** like I'm using a 3 year old phone. I am thinking of resetting it and if it happens again i'l try a custom ROM. But I can still recommend this phone because I think it's partly because I expect to much as a poweruser.

Better than the rest!

Im coming over from a Pixel XL, and I think the phone itself may be a bit slower than the Pixel XL was. Although negligible, I can tell a difference. I also noticed that it was clunky of 5ghz wifi, but worked fine over 2.6ghz. Not sure whats up with that, but downloading apps and navigating in chrome was very slow over the 5ghz.

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I have been using my Gs8+ for 3 months now and for the first 2 months I was very happy with performance but now I am experiencing hickups. The device gets warm to the touch, a reboot seems to fix the problems for a few hours. Now that I have also bought the new iPad Pro 10.5 it seems like a pile of **** like I'm using a 3 year old phone. I am thinking of resetting it and if it happens again i'l try a custom ROM. But I can still recommend this phone because I think it's partly because I expect to much as a poweruser.
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Coming from an S7 , It is probably that your battery is causing this. The more you discharge your phone to 0-10% battery the faster your battery is going to die. You will see that your phone heats up faster/performance slower and charge much slower than before. My S7 is great after 1 year of usage , what i do is turn of fastcharge (fastcharge charges faster at an increased temperature but the s8 is probably more effecient at it ), charge at 50% or try to.

It is way too laggy, period. Lags all over the place. I'm getting mine rooted.
Which rom is best nowadays?
I used to be a real poweruser years ago when CyanogenMod was the **** but I'm uninformed the past 5 years so I need some guidance

Smooth

If u are experiencing lag I highly recommend u go to bootup mode and clear the cache on your phone. Do it 3 times just to be safe. Especially after an update. Totally gets rid of the stuttering. Also disabling any app that's using the acessabilty service speeds up any Android also.

I just ran a geek-bench on my s8+ and I am rooted on Verizon. Single core score 1853 and multi is 6261

thanks, it really fast

I'm running Batman ROM and have a geekbench 4 single core score of 2027 and Multi 6751. The device is even faster with a custom ROM.

ajsmsg78 said:
T-Mobile is fast in Orlando on the S8+.
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Cool , how did you do that ?

Accerty said:
Cool , how did you do that ?
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There is LTE+ there (as well in my area in NY) and it's blazing fast.

I honestly don't quite understand how this phone can get such positive reviews of its speed and UI experience.
I've used or at least tested A LOT of phones this year, and the S8+ has probably been the slowest, most janky experience I've had on a phone - even when compared to budget devices like the Moto G5 Plus.
App launching, multitasking, scrolling smoothness, and excess heat have all been inferior to every other current gen phone I've used.
IMO, it could only be measured a success when compared to multiple-years old phones.

S8+/SM-G955F slower then LG D855 (G3)
I totally agree with CConn882,
My S8+ take 3-4 seconds to launch camera. Multi tasking is horrible too. I'll try out to clear the cache several times, but I think that will not help a lot. Only the fact there's no other device with that great screen holds me to the Galaxy S8+. I would love to use AOSP with all Samsung specific apps. (camera, video re-sizing, etc.)
Greetings Newtoir

does it lag over time?

This phone is horribly slow. Multitasking is sh*t and app opening animations are slow and laggy. Some apps takes seconds to open. My phone is original and bought from carrier. No junk apps installed. And it kind of a su*ks to keep an eye of what is installed in such an expensive device. Cleaning cache and junk does nothing and it starts lagging again in few hours.