Can any Dev successfully port Android P Beta 4 to OnePlus 3/T - OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers

A lot phones are getting unofficial Android P Beta 4 ports
So I was expecting any Dev to work on that and also project Treble support

Dheeraj Menon said:
A lot phones are getting unofficial Android P Beta 4 ports
So I was expecting any Dev to work on that and also project Treble support
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Why the hurry? If you wait, you will get P stable on 3/t.
Treble may be a no-go.

tnsmani said:
Why the hurry? If you wait, you will get P stable on 3/t.
Treble may be a no-go.
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It's not that I am hurrying or something
It's just that some devices that are getting project Treble support and unofficial ports of Android P are just budget devices and kinda feels weird when a flagship like the OnePlus 3/T is not one of those devices to test the new version of Android

Unofficial Treble support is kinda pointless, dev community will make it work anyways, just like all the years before. That's mainly beneficial for manufacturers as they have limited resources (focusing on newer devices). Treble is there to make upgrading to newer versions easier, so it never made sense for OP3 as it's EOL, only getting security updates from now on.
Wait a few more months and we'll have custom P ROMs all over the place, no need to hurry with half-baked betas.
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Yes , my redmi note 4x and redmi note 5 pro run Android P dp5 nearly bugless. But my op3 ?

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We have a chance for N

Today i see someone succesfully boot Android N on Xperia L. Which is Xperia L has a same proccesor with Redmi 1S (snapdragon 400) Maybe we can port the ROM into our device. What do you guys think about?
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As far as I could gather, yes, it is possible to get Nougat.
Things we will NOT GET, because of the GPU we have are: OpenGL 3.1 / Vulkan. Those two are only embedded in Adreno 400 and upwards.
This would mean that there is a chance for problems with games that might migrate above OpenGL 3.0 (which we have).
As far as I'm aware, the differences between 3.1 and 3.0 are in the addition of new libraries, so if the game needs those new libraries 100% and doesn't offer a fallback option, we won't be able to play them.
FortoszoneID said:
Today i see someone succesfully boot Android N on Xperia L. Which is Xperia L has a same proccesor with Redmi 1S (snapdragon 400) Maybe we can port the ROM into our device. What do you guys think about?
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Xperia L is different but Moto G 2013 is same as our device & CM14 unofficial is out, so we are getting it soon
simuhnck said:
Xperia L is different but Moto G 2013 is same as our device & CM14 unofficial is out, so we are getting it soon
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Yeah i also see cm14 unofficial for Peregrine
hope so
Redmi1s won't get any more
Actually not a problem of xiaomi but of **** Google.
This is Android (and OEMs and Qualcomm) not looking far ahead to support devices. They don’t care about customers. After sale support non-existent.
Why is Apple able to support iPhone 5s (same age as Nexus 5) with iOS 10 and later? Because Apple made it compatible with METAL apk from day 1. Because it has hardware encryption since day 1.
Why is Apple able to support iPhone 5 (4 years old) with iOS 10? Because Apple is willing to!!! IPhone 5 does not support METAL nor does it have ARMv8 chip…yet iPhone 5 is getting iOS 10…minus raise to speak to Siri…it is getting 99% of iOS 10 features.
Remember, major software updates also bring with it security features beyond “monthly patches.”
So, with all the resources of software (Google) and hardware (OEM’s and Qualcomm), Android cannot support Nexu 5 and the likes?! It is like buying a laptop (since most phones cost the same) and can only use it for 2 years. That’s insane!
When will Android community wake up and demand more? Google, OEMs, and Qualcomm will only listen if money talks.
And it is this crap that explains horrible re-sale value of Android flagships!

ROM question for long time One Plus owners?

I'm really tempted to buy the 5t since returning my pixel 2 xl due to screen issues. Coming from a Nexus 6, I really enjoy the availability of some of the most current Android versions through community built ROMs even when the version of Android was never made available for the phone (i.e. Oreo 8.1 on Nexus 6). Can some of the long time One Plus users comment on the availability of the newest Android versions for One Plus phones even if it requires installing community built ROMs? How soon after the release of the Android version do you generally see ROMs based on those versions available for One Plus phones?
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Check Ground Zero ROMs, I'm running Validus based on Oreo 8.0 on my OP5 and it's really awesome with pure Android feeling. I read @martinusbe the head Dev will be getting the OP5T.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ground-zero-roms/ground-zero-roms-feature-development
Negotiator50 said:
Can some of the long time One Plus users comment on the availability of the newest Android versions for One Plus phones even if it requires installing community built ROMs?
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The community support is great. There are Oreo builds for even OnePlus One (Released in 2014).
Negotiator50 said:
How soon after the release of the Android version do you generally see ROMs based on those versions available for One Plus phones?
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Alpha/Beta builds: ~2 months
Daily Driver: ~3-4 months

Lack of Roms and Devs For Kirin compared to SD chips

Im in USA and I have 2 Honor 5Xs running RR Unofficial with plenty of Roms to chose from its Launch date. The Honor 6X has the Kirin chipset and finally has picked up developers and Roms in their development area after quite a long time.
I thought I read that the Kirin processor had much less development due to the fact it was not open source like qualcomms from 5X. I may be wrong or ill informed of course. Will the lack of roms development be the same problem with Honor 7X? Looking to upgrade to Honors next budget phone. Please be honest. Thanks.
i wont buy another honor. the devs abandon it too much, plus the honor 6x lagged like no other. do what i did and grab a moto g5s plus for $279, its a great device with good development.
It will be easier for Devs to bring ROMs because of treble, let's see what they'll bring
cyrusalmighty said:
Im in USA and I have 2 Honor 5Xs running RR Unofficial with plenty of Roms to chose from its Launch date. The Honor 6X has the Kirin chipset and finally has picked up developers and Roms in their development area after quite a long time.
I thought I read that the Kirin processor had much less development due to the fact it was not open source like qualcomms from 5X. I may be wrong or ill informed of course. Will the lack of roms development be the same problem with Honor 7X? Looking to upgrade to Honors next budget phone. Please be honest. Thanks.
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The development for 6X has taken pace from this month start.. almost 3-4 roms have come forward with regular improvement.
7X will get the same love from the devs.. treble is around the corner as well :fingers-crossed:
PalakMi said:
It will be easier for Devs to bring ROMs because of treble, let's see what they'll bring
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lol Treble will never come to the 7X. Why do you think ****wei released it with Nougat?
catsruul said:
lol Treble will never come to the 7X. Why do you think ****wei released it with Nougat?
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Because Honor devices already have separate vendor partition that's required for treble
What about 9i
PalakMi said:
Because Honor devices already have separate vendor partition that's required for treble
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Sorry for spamming the thread but need a confirmation if Honor 9i will support Project treble. Honor 9i is almost identical as Honor 7x minus screen size and Camera.
My decision to buy Honor phone depends upon Project treble implementation.
Thanks in advance!
indigo110 said:
Sorry for spamming the thread but need a confirmation if Honor 9i will support Project treble. Honor 9i is almost identical as Honor 7x minus screen size and Camera.
My decision to buy Honor phone depends upon Project treble implementation.
Thanks in advance!
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If it gets Oreo, treble will come automatically
No, it is not the case. A phone that ships with Oreo will need to be Project treble compliant if it is updating to Oreo then Manufacturer can skip it.
PalakMi said:
If it gets Oreo, treble will come automatically
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Wrong.
catsruul said:
Wrong.
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I'm petty sure, just wait
catsruul said:
lol Treble will never come to the 7X. Why do you think ****wei released it with Nougat?
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All devices (H9, H8Pro, Mate 9 confirmed) that have been upgraded to Oreo by Huawei comming from nougat got Treble and the new 4.4 kernel.
I can only guess but i'm 99% sure that the 7x gets it aswell.
BTW, they usually implement the latest of the latest when it comes to under the hood android changes.
Regards
OldDroid said:
All devices (H9, H8Pro, Mate 9 confirmed) that have been upgraded to Oreo by Huawei comming from nougat got Treble and the new 4.4 kernel.
I can only guess but i'm 99% sure that the 7x gets it aswell.
BTW, they usually implement the latest of the latest when it comes to under the hood android changes.
Regards
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Wooo...u seem to own honor 9, honor p9 and other...!!!
Are u planning to buy 7x and develop roms and kernels...???
kiran G. said:
Wooo...u seem to own honor 9, honor p9 and other...!!!
Are u planning to buy 7x and develop roms and kernels...???
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Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
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OldDroid said:
Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
Regards
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Thats a great news....thank you so much....am also going to get my device tomorrow...!!?.....
OldDroid said:
Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
Regards
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Another reason to get the 7X, wu-huuuuu
OldDroid said:
Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
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Looks like the community is building up. waiting for Openkirin to show the love to 7X
Welcome brother :highfive:
sid21 said:
Looks like the community is building up. waiting for Openkirin to show the love to 7X
Welcome brother :highfive:
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OldDroid already confirmed that OpenKirin team have the device
If you're a crack flasher, I'd go with the G5S+. I went with the 7x because it has a better camera compared to the G5S+ and a refreshing design compared to these other mid-ranged 5.5 inch metal clones. I'd gladly wait patiently for development.
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Honor phones have vendor partition by default so i think it will get treble support.

Android P for Oneplus 5T

Guys i was wondering about android p update for oneplus 5t, since 2 major android updates are usual norm for the companies and from oreo its an option to support project treble if the phone is being updated to oreo and mandatory if the phone ships with oreo, now, according to this post https://www.phonearena.com/news/Goo...s-In-Android-9.0-Make-It-More-Closed_id101816 its being said that android p will mandate the support of project treble that means the phone should support project treble regardless of being updated to android p or shipping with the same.
Now the problem arise when oneplus couldn't support project treble with oreo update for oneplus 5t due to partitioning issues. If this is the scenario then theoretically oneplus 5t won't be able to taste android p officially (since project treble is mandatory) and will it end up being the case of oneplus 2 wherein it couldn't taste android nougat ?
Correct me if i'm wrong since i am on oneplus one and now, looking to upgrade and this time seems fit as oreo's project treble would revolutionize the custom rom's department also i simply couldn't deviate from oneplus phones, hence thinking about waiting for the successor of oneplus 5t as it would definitely ship with oreo hence project treble goodness or oneplus 5t could be updated to android p hence having support for project treble.
Oneplus one still holds good for me till date and no need to upgrade if it wasn't for project treble (and 64 bit architecture also).
So what are your thoughts on this ?
I think you're getting way ahead of yourself. Yes it's true that 1+ is not supporting project treble for the foreseeable future but there are two important things to understand.
First, having an OEM support project Treble does not imply that device will get faster updates. manufacturers will still control the compiling and rollout of updates and they will always add their own tweaks and skins which will take time. All PT will do is taking care of the Hardware Abstraction Layer.
Secondly, even though OnePlus phone updates track record isn't impeccable, they're upgrading the 3/3t and 5/5t to Oreo in a fairly timely matter so it's very unlikely that they will abandon two phones that would be around one year old without the newest update.
In any case, all upcoming phones from OnePlus will have to support Treble so the issue will be short lived.
I think that if they want to ALL phones can be re-partitioned for treble, it would however involve a complete loss of all information on the phone and effort on the part of the companies.
For most users this would be unacceptable as it would involve backing up ALL data , settings and contacts on the phone. It would be time intensive and require effort on the OEM's so these companies just go the easy route and say it can't be done...
Nice way of making a butt-load of cash off the next version of phone released too...
Just one company to get the ball rolling would definitely hurt all others if they did this though...
Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
oreo itself is a dream.
I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
arjun said:
I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
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I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
JoRocker said:
I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
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yeah yeah yeah man, you perfectly get me, even i'm skeptical about essential phone despite project treble support, even asus zenfone 4's oreo update brings project treble but not in the way treble's to be implemented.
But the thing bugs me that will 1+5/5T be updated to android p or not since android p will surely bring treble support, because treble + 6 years for LTS for kernels = long live device and probably no need to upgrade phones that frequently.
I guess i'll wait for 1+6 then.
thanks for sharing same mindset bro ! :good:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
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alexiuss said:
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
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project treble means better lineage os support with minimal to no hacks (shimming) to get things working.
Tell me that doesn't sound good.
Airwolf79 said:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
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+1
OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
fuarkgl3 said:
Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
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techlogik said:
OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
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OP6 got to have treble if they launch it with oreo, else google won't certify their software.
SquireSCA said:
Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
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??????? Qui ????????
arjun said:
??????? Qui ????????
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Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
SquireSCA said:
Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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Yeah, that would be awesome. I loved my OP3 and enjoyed the OP5T, but I have to have VoLTE. That is a deal breaker, as I routinely have to tether my work laptop to the phone, so if I am on a conf call with the phone, I lose LTE and it drops down to H+ which is like 3G and slow. Also no HD calling, no WiFi calling.
My Essential doesn't have Wifi Calling either, but it does support VoLTE in AT&T, so I had to return the OP5T and go back to that.

General Oxygen OS and Color OS merging

Hi friends,
Six years ago, we created OxygenOS based on the idea that fast and smooth software is fundamental for a good smartphone experience. Since then, OxygenOS has proven to be one of the best Android operating systems available on the global market.
We started as a small brand, but since last year when our product portfolio started expanding much more quickly, we’ve come to realize that we need significantly more resources and a larger technology platform to make sure each product can receive stable and timely software updates, while delivering a world-class user experience.
After a lot of evaluation and discussion, we’ve come up with a solid plan to best leverage our shared resources with OPPO. In order to improve efficiency and standardize the software experience across our portfolio, we’re working on integrating the codebase of OxygenOS and ColorOS.
This is a change that you will likely not even notice since it’s happening behind the scenes. We now have a larger and even more capable team of developers, more advanced R&D resources, and a more streamlined development process all coming together to improve the OxygenOS experience.
OxygenOS remains the OS for global OnePlus users as always, but now built on a more stable and stronger platform. This will apply to new devices in the future, while for existing devices that are still within the maintenance schedule, it will occur via an OTA update along with Android 12.
Most importantly, with this change, we are happy to announce an improved software maintenance schedule for the lifecycle of our open market smartphones:
Flagship product line (including T / R): The OnePlus 8 series and newer devices will receive 3 major Android updates and 4 years of security updates.
Nord / Nord CE: The first OnePlus Nord and newer Nord / Nord CE devices will receive 2 major Android updates and 3 years of security updates.
Nord N series: Starting from N10 and N100, all N series devices will receive 1 major Android update and 3 years of security updates.
(Note: Flagship devices released prior to the OnePlus 8 series will follow the previous schedule of 2 major Android updates and 3 years of security updates. Software update plans for carrier versions will follow the requirements of our carrier partners.)
We believe that OxygenOS will continue to offer the best Android experience possible for you. Thanks for your continued feedback and support.
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Let's hope Oxygen forms the larger part since Color OS is NOT popular at all.
Also means that we will get 3 yrs of OS updates and 4 yrs of security updates.
Merging the 2 might just be good for custom development since there will be more devs working on a standard codebase.
how to go to lastest color os from 11.2.8.8 ? must wipe data ?
brmbjn said:
how to go to lastest color os from 11.2.8.8 ? must wipe data ?
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Why ask that here?
djsubterrain said:
Why ask that here?
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because
Oxygen OS and Color OS merging !​
brmbjn said:
because
Oxygen OS and Color OS merging !​
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Wow you only read title
djsubterrain said:
Let's hope Oxygen forms the larger part since Color OS is NOT popular at all.
Also means that we will get 3 yrs of OS updates and 4 yrs of security updates.
Merging the 2 might just be good for custom development since there will be more devs working on a standard codebase.
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Well the language seems to imply that oxygen will be the base and color os will just be merging in backend stuff, which as long as it doesnt start adding proprietary chinese bloat doesnt seem too bad to me. The bigger news in my mind is their commitment to 3 years of OS and 4 years of security updates. When they announced the merge with oppo everyone thought "oh so they are just going to stop caring and not support their phones as well" but it seems they are keeping their word on it enabling a better update schedule with more resources.
Wait ! What ??? You got Oxygen os 11.2.8.8 ?
null0seven said:
Wait ! What ??? You got Oxygen os 11.2.8.8 ?
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Not yet.
I think next update is coloros
I used Oxygen os for few weeks but returned to coloros, i can feel battery is better
I can't wait maybe we get better AnTuTu scores then like colorOS who scores 800k and oxygenOS 750k
It's official! The next version of Oxygen OS will be replaced with color os! All oneplus phones will now run color OS from August 2021! RIP Oxygen OS!
I keep hearing that color os is more battery friendly. I am curious how it is going to work out.
Color OS = China
Oxygen = world wide
You can NOT replace google store for the rest of the world ! Not that easy ! They Loose a Big peace of the market !
null0seven said:
Color OS = China
Oxygen = world wide
You can NOT replace google store for the rest of the world ! Not that easy ! They Loose a Big peace of the market !
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*Piece.
PKkeys said:
It's official! The next version of Oxygen OS will be replaced with color os! All oneplus phones will now run color OS from August 2021! RIP Oxygen OS!
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Eh, no.
Huigie said:
Eh, no.
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I don't know where he found that info but it's not true easy. They will continue oxygen and with the Android 12 new look will be introduced and for sure Oxygen Os will be different than Color Os to recognize both brands.
Some good perspective on this topic:
The OxygenOS-ColorOS merger was inevitable, and I'm looking forward to it
OxygenOS is merging with ColorOS, and that has me excited. There's a lot of potential for great things to happen, if it all goes well!
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