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Will OnePlus continue OP3 support??

After the release of the OP3T, OnePlus has decided to discontinue sales of the OP3 according to Android authority. http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-3-officially-discontinued-us-europe-729580/
Could this mean that sooner or later, they might drop the support of the OP3 due to how they have to work on updates for both phones? They have slightly different specs so that might mean they have to work on two different sets of updates right?

There is slight difference in OP3 and OP3T, basically in Soc. OP3T will obviously require different drivers etc and they definitely will not care for the older one. You know what, they have released 7 beta updated for OP3 but nothing worth noticeable is there in these updates except their try to push own bloatware. Some of the OEM have updated their devices to nougat but not Oneplus. If LG can make their device updated to nougat out of the box then why not Oneplus. If they release nougat for OP3 than it will have negative impact on sale of OP3T which they never let happen. They will be updating OP3T to nougat and OP3 will get it after few months

drnajmu said:
There is slight difference in OP3 and OP3T, basically in Soc. OP3T will obviously require different drivers etc and they definitely will not care for the older one. You know what, they have released 7 beta updated for OP3 but nothing worth noticeable is there in these updates except their try to push own bloatware. Some of the OEM have updated their devices to nougat but not Oneplus. If LG can make their device updated to nougat out of the box then why not Oneplus. If they release nougat for OP3 than it will have negative impact on sale of OP3T which they never let happen. They will be updating OP3T to nougat and OP3 will get it after few months
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Both devices get Nougat this year. According to their stream updates will be brought out sameoutaniously. Also the OP2 and OPx will get Nougat but not this year.

Demian3112 said:
Both devices get Nougat this year. According to their stream updates will be brought out simultaneously. Also the OP2 and OPx will get Nougat but not this year.
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The OPX will not get official Nougat as the 801 doesn't pass Google's certification as Qualcomm is not updating the drivers to support OpenGL ES 3.1.

quite disappointed on how quickly OP decided to destroy its great public image made after release of OP3...

lel, what did you guys expect from "LYING CARL" ? You can't trust a single word this guy says.

=dave= said:
lel, what did you guys expect from "LYING CARL" ? You can't trust a single word this guy says.
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Absolutely true

Don't speculate. Wait and see.
OP are vastly smaller than LG or Samsung, there isn't simply the quantity of devices out there as OP can't manufacture that many. So they're taking advantage of the newer hardware and quickly updating to the newest CPU, rather than continuing to manufacture devices on older hardware. This is why OP3 has been discontinued.
Software-wise, again, they don't have the development team to get Nougat out to us 'RIGHT NOW', but we've been promised it by the end of the year on both devices. I've been very pleased with the amount of updates and community builds so far.
OP4 will hit probably six months from now and that maybe an incremental update again, unless we see a snapdragon 830 or something!

Asus zenfone 5z: Android P release date.

Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.

suraj051 said:
Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.
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If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018

chaostan said:
If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018
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Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.

Why are people so hung up on the getting the newest update immediately? There are usually bugs that need to be worked out, such as the Android P fast charging bug.
I'd rather get it a little later after it's smoothed out.

I'm expecting it at end of Q4/18.

suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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This is not a flagship from asus point of view. They treat ROG series as one

suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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Dude calm down. My LG V20 still has Android 7.0

Buying HTC 10 in 2018. Makes sense for use next 2 years?

Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.

fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.
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HTC 10 is a good phone but I think it's not worth buying in 2018, because you will never have much support or updates in stock and with custom rom you will see a dying project.
That is my opinion

There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812

scutworker said:
There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812
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there is someone on the xda discord who has a booting p rom for the htc 10

Dont buy this phone at all .... buy Chinese phone like xiaomi redmi note 5 pro ..... Chinese phone has more active developers than this phone.....htc 10 threads died already or will die soon.

aligh2014 said:
Dont buy this phone at all .... buy Chinese phone like xiaomi redmi note 5 pro ..... Chinese phone has more active developers than this phone.....htc 10 threads died already or will die soon.
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Maybe, maybe not....if Fagyi solves a few problems then we will have Oreo fully working and maybe even Pie.
But this all comes down to one person. If you want a device with active development by multiple people with multiple ROMS, then you should look elsewhere.

scutworker said:
There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812
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LineageOS Nougat works fine on HTC 10? Woofer is ok? I have downgraded my 10 from Oreo to Nougat and battery performance is quite better!

harvey1483 said:
LineageOS Nougat works fine on HTC 10? Woofer is ok? I have downgraded my 10 from Oreo to Nougat and battery performance is quite better!
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LineageOS Nougat (official version) works just fine on HTC 10 and the woofer works as it should.

HTC 10 have great hardware but HTC device software support management is absolutely worthless. HTC is ruining their costumers loyalty. They are supporting devices only one year long.
After official release Android 8.0 battery life is catastrophical, but HTC coorporation is not doing anything to fix that. That's why HTC 10 is my last device from HTC.
Better choose other manufacturers.

fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.
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I bought the 10 earlier this year as a stop gap after my Pixel died. I was keen to wait for the Pixel 3 as the 2 didn't do it for me.
The handset itself is nice enough, camera is just ok and the battery life with Oreo is truly awful. Thankfully Quick Charge makes it useable. Screen is good, but not as punch as amoled.
Depends on your requirements, the handset does have more or less everything, but I compared app speed against a Huawei 3e and it was faster to launch apps like facebook and linkedin.

I agree; I think the hardware is fantastic and the phone is robust unlike a lot of new glass phones.
I also prefer a LCD screen over amoled, so that's good too.
But the software is dreadful and it's completely unacceptable to drop support after such a short period of time. Just look at Apple who released ios12 this week for iPhone 6 released in 2014!
My HTC 10 is going well on LineageOS 14 (Nougat) and hopefully Fagyi on these forums will get Oreo or Pie working one day which will add life to this old phone. But if he can't then I will be stuck with outdated software on my phone.
In any case, this will be my last phone from HTC.....

Android 10 update

Any ideas if Samsung finally will update Android on their phones including the new Note 10/10+ fast this year? P30 Pro will have acces to Android Q Beta this September...any news for the Note?
Was a reason i moved away from Samsung phones, i really like the Note 10 + and i really want to purchase it but, can't stand waiting month for the new Android version...
So what you think?

Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest

winol said:
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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If timely OS updates is high on your priority list, you bought the wrong phone.
I have owned the Note5, Note7, Note8, and Note9. I recall the Note 8 update to Oreo occurred the April after it was released, and the Note9 Pie update occurred in February after it was released (carrier versions, anyway). So you're looking at Q1 2020 for the update.
However, half the time the Android updates contain things that Samsung has already had in their software for a year or two, so... it's not that big a deal. That said, I still am always super excited when it happens (so I get it).

I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.

Hazzay88 said:
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything

torickray said:
Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
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You are missing Android 10

really if you care about the android updates as soon as possible just go to a Pixel device. on the other hand just buy a phone you like and get the updates when they come, an android update doesn't really change a lot, a lot of what is added to the base android are features that are common among third parties, so for a device from a manufacturer like Samsung all the android update means is you get a bigger number and some of the phones features move from the Samsung UI to base Android.

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing Android 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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Software is important for EVERYBODY, what I tried to tell you is this: if you like/want a note10 device, it works fine as it is, it will update in due course, if the updates are your most uttmost concern, then a pixel would be the perfect choice for you, it is well known that samsung is never the first to issue updates, knowing this, better get something else

After seeing the YouTube video of One UI 2.0 over Android 10, I can't see anything that exciting. Android 9 (RIP desserts) runs great, and 10 looked like a very incremental update.

Just enjoy your phone you just got it . Q will come orob will get 10 and 11 . Let's get 9 working good before we think of getting 10

torickray said:
Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.

Belimawr said:
there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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I had the Pixel 2 XL and when the update came through my battery life improved which was already good but improvement in any department is good.

Why should you come to this forum and complain about Samsung update when you know how they work?
We all know the update will take some time to be available since the moment we buy it. We like this phone not because of the google update that we eventually will get, but because of the features that not available even with latest google update.
You should buy pixel and iphone then. Or huawei.

Exactly

I've only had one recent "need" for an android upgrade(Wireless android auto), just to find out that after we got it that google had restricted the feature to google devices. After 6 months of google claiming it was the Samsung's issue, even though no other brands worked either, they came out with a "beta" that enabled Wireless AA on other devices, no patches from samsung required.
There are so few important updates in Android these days, it's the least of my concerns.

It's official: The 9750 is the last 4G SD Note 10+ without Android 10

Same story every year for the Hong Kong variant! The same thing happened to my SM-G9650 with Android Pie.

Patience young one, it will come and you'll probably get a better initial experience than everyone else.

I'm not too bummed yet because I hear Good Lock hasn't been updated for 10 which would stop me from updating anyway. But once that happens...

I just ordered a N9750 coming from the Oneplus 7 pro which runs 10, not happy

mahdibassam said:
I just ordered a N9750 coming from the Oneplus 7 pro which runs 10, not happy
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Just out of interest, which features of Android 10 are you going to miss by temporarily going back to Android 9?

willhemmens said:
Just out of interest, which features of Android 10 are you going to miss by temporarily going back to Android 9?
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number one for sure would be the gesture navigation - it is absolutely the best, the samsung one is just rubbish. ALso music controller and scribbling through the playing audio directly from the notification shade although im not sure if thats a oneplus feature or android 10. Im sure there will be a lot of other things il miss that i dont know yet!

First versions in major updates always come out with some bugs, For me, It is better to update when all wrinkles have been ironed out

Do the users the device is intended for actual card about Android 10?
Serious question.

intruda119 said:
Do the users the device is intended for actual card about Android 10?
Serious question.
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I'm not dying too get it, but I am looking forward to the faster sharing menu, native dark mode and the potential for a Samsung Pay issue I'm having to get resolved. That, and I'm hoping the camera's aggressive noise reduction is itself reduced, lol.

intruda119 said:
Do the users the device is intended for actual card about Android 10?
Serious question.
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I'd say the average Note10+ buyer is probably fairly interested in the version of Android it's running, yes. They are someone that is probably expecting one of the best Android experiences possible, especially when you consider the cost of the handsets.

Does anybody know if they fixed the ps4 dualshock 4 pairing with Android 10? That's 1 of the reasons of the update I want and gestures.

AceDaMack said:
Does anybody know if they fixed the ps4 dualshock 4 pairing with Android 10? That's 1 of the reasons of the update I want and gestures.
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Are you a Samsung UI launcher person? If so, you're in luck as that's the only launcher the new gestures support.

Yes all I have to do is apply the update. I use this phone mostly for gaming and a few months ago someone posted that the dualshock 4 pairing would be fixed with Android 10 I just want a conformation on that b4 I start downloading. I'm still on release firmware in hopes for root but if I can use my ps4 controller I would gladly update

Is it maybe possible to flash other snapdragon rom on this n9750 version?

Nevermind I gonna sell this peace of garbage

(choir) Hallelujah!
It beat "the estimate" on the street, lol.

waqqas.khokhar said:
(choir) Hallelujah!
It beat "the estimate" on the street, lol.
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Yes me to today, finally :good:

Only 1 thing the notification ring on the top does not bling when s an your eyes for faceunlock

Can the Note 10+ Hong Kong get flashed with stock Android 10 ROM from another region and get it done that way? And what about root? Can it be rooted afterwards again under Android 10 or not?
The truth of the matter is I see zero benefits on an upgrade. Android 9 works flawlessly on my rooted 10 Plus and there isn't anything on Android 10 that I already can't do with my Android 9 firmware. I never quite understand this "upgrade" rush everyone seems to have..
Heck.. I'm still on Android 8 on my Note 8 and everything works flawlessly with all my apps and setting such as on my newer Note 10+. THE ONLY thing about my Note 8 that needs an "upgrade" is the p...e-of-s..t AMOLED display that is burnt in everywhere.. and no firmware will fix that.
Gosh I miss LCDs.. Samsung AMOLED panels ALL last less than a couple months before they start burning in.. all of them.

VeEuzUKY said:
The truth of the matter is I see zero benefits on an upgrade. Android 9 works flawlessly on my rooted 10 Plus and there isn't anything on Android 10 that I already can't do with my Android 9 firmware. I never quite understand this "upgrade" rush everyone seems to have...
I'm still on Android 8 on my Note 8 and everything works flawlessly with all my apps and setting such as on my newer Note 10+.
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I also do not understand people who want to move as quickly as possible to a new version of Android, it is better to wait for bug fixes.
if you consider that fixing security vulnerabilities is useless, yes you can stay on android 8
VeEuzUKY said:
THE ONLY thing about my Note 8 that needs an "upgrade" is the p...e-of-s..t AMOLED display that is burnt in everywhere.. and no firmware will fix that.
Gosh I miss LCDs.. Samsung AMOLED panels ALL last less than a couple months before they start burning in.. all of them.
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I have my Note 10+ more than 3 months and the screen has nothing. I did not have burns on the screen of my Note 2, which I had for more than 4 years ?