Is the Honor 7X identical to the Huawei Y9? (system/kernel/cpu-wise) - Honor 7X Questions & Answers

Hello I am new here so I apologize if I am using the forum wrongly or if I'm posting these somewhere inappropriate but I have my mind clogged up with a good amount of doubts and I really feel like I need them answered.
I currently have a(n FLA-LX3) Y9 which I got some months ago, I got it instead of the 7X because I thought it was better specially because of the battery life but I've noticed that the modding and ROM community only circulates around the 7X as far as I've read, NOT the Y9. Then I got myself to comparing the two and I realized that they have the same octa-core set and CPU, which is the Kirin 659 evidently. When I found out about this I scratched and tilted my head in confusion regarding why there's little to no modding to the Y9 compared to the more-popular 7X, adding to this my honest desire to install OpenKirin on my device since I honestly feel EMUI is too annoying for me and I just prefer stock Oreo/AOSP
My questions rely on this. Is the 7X identical to the Y9? If so, can I install such things as fastboot, TWRP or OpenKirin to it? Are their ROMs different enough for them to stop me from installing stock Oreo on my FLA-LX3? I really, really want a vanilla android experience so I really need to know what I can and can't do with my device.
Thanks for answering the questions in advance. Cheers. :good:

Fragility said:
Hello I am new here so I apologize if I am using the forum wrongly or if I'm posting these somewhere inappropriate but I have my mind clogged up with a good amount of doubts and I really feel like I need them answered.
I currently have a(n FLA-LX3) Y9 which I got some months ago, I got it instead of the 7X because I thought it was better specially because of the battery life but I've noticed that the modding and ROM community only circulates around the 7X as far as I've read, NOT the Y9. Then I got myself to comparing the two and I realized that they have the same octa-core set and CPU, which is the Kirin 659 evidently. When I found out about this I scratched and tilted my head in confusion regarding why there's little to no modding to the Y9 compared to the more-popular 7X, adding to this my honest desire to install OpenKirin on my device since I honestly feel EMUI is too annoying for me and I just prefer stock Oreo/AOSP
My questions rely on this. Is the 7X identical to the Y9? If so, can I install such things as fastboot, TWRP or OpenKirin to it? Are their ROMs different enough for them to stop me from installing stock Oreo on my FLA-LX3? I really, really want a vanilla android experience so I really need to know what I can and can't do with my device.
Thanks for answering the questions in advance. Cheers. :good:
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The number one condition we have had here on the 7x , is a stock update to Oreo in order to use the gsi roms.
The Oreo update brought treble suppose to the 7x.
If your y9 got an ota update to Oreo, or originally came with Oreo, then download an app from play store . (Name is something like treble check). See if device supports treble. If so should be able to try to install one .
No direct info on your device, so try at own risk, and search some more to see if there is some forum our there for that device.

mrmazak said:
The number one condition we have had here on the 7x , is a stock update to Oreo in order to use the gsi roms.
The Oreo update brought treble suppose to the 7x.
If your y9 got an ota update to Oreo, or originally came with Oreo, then download an app from play store . (Name is something like treble check). See if device supports treble. If so should be able to try to install one .
No direct info on your device, so try at own risk, and search some more to see if there is some forum our there for that device.
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I just downloaded the app and it popped up as Project Treble being supported although it says Seamless System Updates are not because apparently my phone only has one set of partition which is slot A, I don't know if that makes a difference with the 7X.
I mean I do want to try and install OpenKirin but as I said I don't know if the risk is worth it without knowing these things and I tried looking around the forum to no avail since my phone doesn't seem to be really popular.

Fragility said:
I just downloaded the app and it popped up as Project Treble being supported although it says Seamless System Updates are not because apparently my phone only has one set of partition which is slot A, I don't know if that makes a difference with the 7X.
I mean I do want to try and install OpenKirin but as I said I don't know if the risk is worth it without knowing these things and I tried looking around the forum to no avail since my phone doesn't seem to be really popular.
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Biggest problem I see is there does not seem to be updates listed in team mt for that model.
So there is not way to get original images back if flashing open kirin turns out to be not what you wanted
If you have already unlocked bootloader and did install TWRP, you could use that to make an image backup of your current system.
But you would not have stock recovery anymore. To do the factory wipe needed for the open kirin rom
You could try stock recovery from other device. It possibly would be same.
There are full ota updates for model "fla" just not the lx line. The recovery from one of them could be same as yours. But I wonder how the language would be.
Anyway it seems a risk to try now, without someone else worth same device, and without full ota available

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You're a power user. Can the Huawei Mate 9 Pro keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Huawei Mate 9 Pro. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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This is a weak spot as it's no well known worldwide. Dev's are not too many and custom ROMs or even Official Updates are missing.
Official updates are excellent and fast since android 8 dropped. I usually get security updates the same month they are for. But it's true, no real custom rom development as of yet. Hopefully we get better sw once Project Treble compatible roms are available.
The Phone is good enough. Nothing spectacular. When I got the root sorted by using the Krom root, the phone is stable. I have high hopes and expectations for the resurrection remix ROM via the openkirin project, in my opinion the best ROM out there.
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The Phone is good enough. Nothing spectacular. When I got the root sorted by using the Krom root, the phone is stable. I have high hopes and expectations for the resurrection remix ROM via the openkirin project, in my opinion the best ROM out there.
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Would you please explain how did you root your phone with mentioned method (kroom root) ?
Do you think I will be able to root my phone Huawei Mate 9 PRO (LON-L29 8.0.0.378(C432)
I have been searching for root for a long time now, but I am very confused since there isn't really good community around this model.
I hope somebody will be able to help rooting my phone.
Thank you in advance guys
halilyildiz said:
Would you please explain how did you root your phone with mentioned method (kroom root) ?
Do you think I will be able to root my phone Huawei Mate 9 PRO (LON-L29 8.0.0.378(C432)
I have been searching for root for a long time now, but I am very confused since there isn't really good community around this model.
I hope somebody will be able to help rooting my phone.
Thank you in advance guys
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Assuming you have unlocked the bootloader.
You can download Krom from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9-pro/development/kangvip-rom-b354-mate-9-pro-links-t3790605
When you unzip the rom files, you will find Run.bat Run that file and when it's time to install, you get to the install menu, you select option 2 instead of option 1. Your phone will then be rooted and reboot. Enjoy.
H10N3 said:
Assuming you have unlocked the bootloader.
You can download Krom from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9-pro/development/kangvip-rom-b354-mate-9-pro-links-t3790605
When you unzip the rom files, you will find Run.bat Run that file and when it's time to install, you get to the install menu, you select option 2 instead of option 1. Your phone will then be rooted and reboot. Enjoy.
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Thank you for quick reply
I will try it as soon as I have time and write back here.
But in download section of kangvip roms the latest version of kangvip is m9pro... E.8..370, mine is 378 do you think it is going to be problem if I use that, or should I try to downgrade somehow?
halilyildiz said:
Thank you for quick reply
I will try it as soon as I have time and write back here.
But in download section of kangvip roms the latest version of kangvip is m9pro... E.8..370, mine is 378 do you think it is going to be problem if I use that, or should I try to downgrade somehow?
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I rooted my 378 with the same kangvip installer that I used for 370.
H10N3 said:
I rooted my 378 with the same kangvip installer that I used for 370.
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Thank you very much for the support. I am still searching for the best way to get root to bypass safetynet. It seems like magisk root is best way to do so. I am also looking for twrp supports decryption, I might have found one I didn't try it yet. This is the link https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-1-0-t3783353
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I rooted my 378 with the same kangvip installer that I used for 370.
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Thank you for the reply man...
Well I guess I will not be able to root after all since I don't have the bootloader code. I contacted Huawei support, they do not promise anything but there is still a tiny hope.
I know there is options like DC unlocker etc but I didn't get / read any confirmation about that anyone have successfully rooted their mate 9 pro [No EXTERNAL SD double sim version (LON-L29)] with a DC given code.
In this point I don't know what to do. Even if if I somehow manage to get the bootloader code I still need to find proper magisk root method. Mate 9 pro has no good community unfortunately.
I know my next phone is gonna be root friendly device like One Plus 6 or Google phone etc.
I hate not having full control of my own device.
halilyildiz said:
Thank you for the reply man...
Well I guess I will not be able to root after all since I don't have the bootloader code. I contacted Huawei support, they do not promise anything but there is still a tiny hope.
I know there is options like DC unlocker etc but I didn't get / read any confirmation about that anyone have successfully rooted their mate 9 pro [No EXTERNAL SD double sim version (LON-L29)] with a DC given code.
In this point I don't know what to do. Even if if I somehow manage to get the bootloader code I still need to find proper magisk root method. Mate 9 pro has no good community unfortunately.
I know my next phone is gonna be root friendly device like One Plus 6 or Google phone etc.
I hate not having full control of my own device.
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I'm with you on this one.
Owning this device has taught me a few life long lessons:
1. Buy a popular phone, more spare parts, cheaper repair
2. Buy a popular phone, more community support and custom ROMs
3. Buy a popular phone, cheaper, especially second hand, which I personally prefer
4. Buy a popular phone, got an issue? Someone else already solved it
5. ???
6. Profit

BLN-L24 links have bad key in the Honor 6x Repository thread

Need to rollback, or be advised of any custom ROMS that work..
Try Elite ROM from ROM section. it should work fine.
I personally would not recommend installing Elite ROM as it is more hassle than it is worth when you try to switch ROMs. It re/debrands your device and even after restoring a nandroid your audio will not work nor will your camera function properly. What files have bad keys? I put a lot of those up and the keys should work fine....
@shashank1320 check the links in the BLN-L24 section....something got messed up when you copied my links as mine work.
@ghostair is your device bricked? IMO none of the ROMs for this phone are worth installing on a main phone because there is too much functionality lost, no disrespect to the devs. Elite ROM does have the least amount of bugs but it is a hassle as I mentioned earlier. My main gripe about it is when installing and uninstalling apps you must restart the device in order for the apps to be added or removed from the app drawer....its a major annoyance.
BLN-L24C567B110 Thanks to @Dazed No More
boot - https://mega.nz/#!ceRkHQoA!L8MECn8Ul...8JwO7ZuVEEr8mk
recovery - https://mega.nz/#!sOZAUJTZ!QKKROoWkI...UPNDwL79ZI1yQI
BLN-L24C567B360 Thanks to @Dazed No More
boot - https://mega.nz/#!hDQB3RCT!YTH2j1IhJ...y_prJHEgHdSrxg
recovery - https://mega.nz/#!Fa4DBbxS!XDIczpXcr...TApUtNvcOMEDnc
TWRP 3.1.1 didn't work for me, nor did EliteROM or his version of TWRP.
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TWRP 3.1.1 didn't work for me, nor did EliteROM or his version of TWRP.
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Is your device bricked? You say you want to rollback, but have you started the process....what firmware are you on?
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@shashank1320 check the links in the BLN-L24 section....something got messed up when you copied my links as mine work.
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Let me check mate. Thanks for pointing that out.
No it's not bricked, actually I am on TWRP 3.1.1-0, it was only EliteROM's version that didn't work. I haven't even been able to use the phone at all, for a week, and am currently on LineageOS 13 as it was only release that works for my model it seems.
ghostair said:
No it's not bricked, actually I am on TWRP 3.1.1-0, it was only EliteROM's version that didn't work. I haven't even been able to use the phone at all, for a week, and am currently on LineageOS 13 as it was only release that works for my model it seems.
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Im confused....your original post says you need to rollback but you say you are currently on LOS 13?? Rolling back refers to downgrading from Android 7.0 (Nougat) to 6.0.1 (MM) but you are already on MM if you are running LOS 13. You also say your device is not bricked but then in the next sentence say you havent been able to use it at all for a week.....and lastly you say LOS 13 was the only release to work for your model yet every single ROM in the development forum can be flashed to the BLN-L24, I know because I have done it.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Your posts are contradictory and make no sense. Id be glad to help but you gotta give me something to work with here.
Im assuming you did not make a full backup in TWRP before flashing any ROMs, in which case you have learned a valuable lesson....always have a backup. But since you dont we will get you back to EMUI which I assume is what you mean when you say roll back.
Dazed No More said:
Im confused....your original post says you need to rollback but you say you are currently on LOS 13?? Rolling back refers to downgrading from Android 7.0 (Nougat) to 6.0.1 (MM) but you are already on MM if you are running LOS 13. You also say your device is not bricked but then in the next sentence say you havent been able to use it at all for a week.....and lastly you say LOS 13 was the only release to work for your model yet every single ROM in the development forum can be flashed to the BLN-L24, I know because I have done it.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Your posts are contradictory and make no sense. Id be glad to help but you gotta give me something to work with here.
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I understand, I probably should have just used, "go back," to EMUI. Since LOS 13 isn't usable in the least, as I can't make calls, and it drops LTE.
If they work then how? I followed everything, flashing vendor.img with fastboot, then flashing the respective zip?
I'd rather not go back to EMUI, it's why I haven't been able to actually "use it as a phone," since purchase.
Why would you not want to go back to EMUI? Its smooth and everything works. EMUI is the reason you havent been able to use it as a phone?? There is not one single ROM for this device that works entirely and has full functionality. You're always going to be missing something whether its the camera, LTE, calls, etc.
You're going to have to go back to EMUI so you can update to Anrdoid 7.0 (be sure to make a full backup) and then flash away all the ROMS you like and you will see they are all broken in some way. This is most definitely not the phone to use if you are looking for polished ROMs.
My last tip before departing......download the flashable vendor zip if you still want to mess around with the ROMs, it makes life much easier. Its in one of the threads in that forum I think AOKP

Is there a Custom ROM for Huawei 7X/Mate SE?

Would like to use a clean version of Android instead of the EMUI version that is loaded on all their phones.
Seeing how these phones are identical, figured what would work for one would work with the other.
Thanks for giving me any insight.
Coming from the Galaxy Note 4 - hoping I'm not making a mistake with this phone that is enroute.
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Nothing happening on this phone I guess.
Jimi Mack said:
Nothing happening on this phone I guess.
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Guess you haven't bothered looking at the ROMs and development section. While alot of ROMs are not what I would deem "daily material", their is working going on to get ROMs on this device.
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Here is a list of supported custom ROMs on Mate SE, Choose the A only ROM.
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
The whole custom ROM world has changed, Now you need to apply system.img instead of rom.zip using fastboot command.
I have the PHH-Treble installed on my Huawei Mate SE. here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
In addition, I'd check out the Open Kirin site. I've read the Lineage version is outstanding and well tuned for the chip. They list the 7x as supported but I've read the Mate SE most certainly is also.
https://openkirin.net/download/
nook'r said:
Here is a list of supported custom ROMs on Mate SE, Choose the A only ROM.
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
The whole custom ROM world has changed, Now you need to apply system.img instead of rom.zip using fastboot command.
I have the PHH-Treble installed on my Huawei Mate SE. here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
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Learning about this phone, why the A only roms?
AsItLies said:
In addition, I'd check out the Open Kirin site. I've read the Lineage version is outstanding and well tuned for the chip. They list the 7x as supported but I've read the Mate SE most certainly is also.
https://openkirin.net/download/
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I've been running the OpenKirin Lineage v4 on my Mate SE as daily driver for over a week. It is outstanding. Not going back to emui.
olswede said:
I've been running the OpenKirin Lineage v4 on my Mate SE as daily driver for over a week. It is outstanding. Not going back to emui.
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Coincidentally, just booted that ROM (on my SE) today. It's very very good, noticed a few minor glitches to do with the camera and navigation (will let them know about em).
I'll admit though, emui8 is growing on me It's certainly better than 5.1 was. Love to see the roms becoming available though. No doubt when updates stop (or before), they will be critical to have.
AsItLies said:
Coincidentally, just booted that ROM (on my SE) today. It's very very good, noticed a few minor glitches to do with the camera and navigation (will let them know about em).
I'll admit though, emui8 is growing on me It's certainly better than 5.1 was. Love to see the roms becoming available though. No doubt when updates stop (or before), they will be critical to have.
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I don't mind emui except that the power-saver regularly kills tasker, ad-blocking vpns, etc. I've tried everything to exempt them from power saving but no go. The battery life is outstanding though (I usually only lose 15% after a full day's usage), so for average users it's a bonus.
nook'r said:
Here is a list of supported custom ROMs on Mate SE, Choose the A only ROM.
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
The whole custom ROM world has changed, Now you need to apply system.img instead of rom.zip using fastboot command.
I have the PHH-Treble installed on my Huawei Mate SE. here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
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Hey thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have not installed a custom ROM in a long time.
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olswede said:
I've been running the OpenKirin Lineage v4 on my Mate SE as daily driver for over a week. It is outstanding. Not going back to emui.
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This looks sweet, but the instruction on this site say I need my custom bootloader,and i can't find a guide how to do that. i have TWRP
AsItLies said:
Coincidentally, just booted that ROM (on my SE) today. It's very very good, noticed a few minor glitches to do with the camera and navigation (will let them know about em).
I'll admit though, emui8 is growing on me It's certainly better than 5.1 was. Love to see the roms becoming available though. No doubt when updates stop (or before), they will be critical to have.
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Any chance you'd elaborate on the issues you've come across? I'm thinking about loading it up but don't want to lose functionality
JakeBuck said:
Any chance you'd elaborate on the issues you've come across? I'm thinking about loading it up but don't want to lose functionality
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Nothing terribly serious. I didn't use it for long, but the camera option for selfie shutter 'palm to camera' didn't work. Also the recently taken shots didn't show in the bottom gallery (I read this is fixed now). And the navigation arrows at the bottom seemed to not be persistent somehow (after a reboot this was okay).
It's easy to go back to stock, except if you haven't backed everything up, have to reconfigure, add / subtract apps etc.
I'd suggest searching for the openKirin website, they seem to be doing the most development. Also follow their directions, they worked for me and pretty easy.
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How does one flash the "Openkirin_los_beta4" Iso to the Mate SE (BND-L34)? TWRP?? Fastboot??? what are the exact steps to not render it a paper weight again lol; Do you need Magisk-v16.0 to root it as well?
Scythe69 said:
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How does one flash the "Openkirin_los_beta4" Iso to the Mate SE (BND-L34)? TWRP?? Fastboot??? what are the exact steps to not render it a paper weight again lol; Do you need Magisk-v16.0 to root it as well?
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https://openkirin.net/user_guide/openkirin-rom-installation-instructions/
zackzuse said:
This looks sweet, but the instruction on this site say I need my custom bootloader,and i can't find a guide how to do that. i have TWRP
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No, you don't need a custom bootloader.
You only need unlocked bootloader and unlocked frp.
TWRP is not supported on OpenKirin ROMs (especially on 7x twrp won't work).
You just need to flash the .img file through bootloader and then reboot to recovery and do a factory data reset.
Can anyone give me some advice: I have the Mate SE, currently on EMUI 8.0.0.332 (security update available but not installed), with TWRP and Magisk. I would love to install a custom ROM, but the OpenKirin site says TWRP isn't supported. Can I still install one of those builds and just expect no support if something goes wrong, or should I find some way to return to full stock before flashing? And if I need stock recovery, where can I find a download for it? I haven't had any luck on searching here yet.
Install Android 9.0 Pie on Honor 7X – AOSP 9.0 Pie ROM
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Install Android 9.0 Pie on Honor 7X – AOSP 9.0 Pie ROM
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Has anyone tried this custom ROM? I would love to hear some success stories before possibly bricking my device
awlonsky said:
Has anyone tried this custom ROM? I would love to hear some success stories before possibly bricking my device
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Pretty much any GSI works so long as you have updated to EMUI 8 sometime in the past.

Any way to try out LOS without installing it on a phone ?

Hi
I have a Honor 5X (kiwi / KIW-L21) as my daily driver and as its nearing the end of it warranty (2 years) its starting to run slower (good job, Huawei). Given this and the fact that during these two years i never received ANY update apart from an update to android 6.0.1 from android 5, im considering switching to LOS 16.
The thing is im completely new to custom ROMs, recovery, phone rooting and that jazz and im a bit scared.
I wanted to know if there is a way I can try out LOS 16 (say for example on a VM) to be sure that i like it before installing.
If not, would I be able to restore my phone back to its current OS in case i dont like LOS and want to fall back to EMUI ?
PS : I wanted to try it out on an older phone I have and for which i dont care as much, but its not supported :'( Its an Asus Zenfone go ZB552KL
Thanks in advance !
The oldphone approach is a good idea. Go to a recycling place and grab some old Motorola or Samsung phones. Broken screen is OK.
kurtn said:
The oldphone approach is a good idea. Go to a recycling place and grab some old Motorola or Samsung phones. Broken screen is OK.
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My local trash collecting place isn't very open to people who want to take stuff (yes, what a nonesense) but i'll try that i guess. The thing is we have like 3 or 4 old phones but none of them are listed as compatible on the LOS website
IamGron. said:
My local trash collecting place isn't very open to people who want to take stuff (yes, what a nonesense) but i'll try that i guess. The thing is we have like 3 or 4 old phones but none of them are listed as compatible on the LOS website
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You don't need official. Search XDA and you will find unofficial lineageOS for many old phones. https://twrp.me/Devices/ is a good place to find the phone's code name. With that you can check stats.lineageos.org for popular ROM versions.
Will give it a look, thanks.
If nothing usefull comes out of this investigation and I end up doing it on my 5X, is there a way for me to backup the whole phone (i mean not just data, like the whole OS) that way I can fall back to its current state if something goes wrong / i dont like LOS ?
IamGron. said:
Will give it a look, thanks..........
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To be honest, there's various ways for backing up a whole device but, there's limited (possibly no) choices that all depends upon the device itself and the capabilities of said device. So there's no real way of answering this question without, also, taking under consideration that what works for one may/may not work for another.
With that stated...
I've always found that the only way to know if I like something as huge as updating the Custom Android version Firmware, is to "Hope for the Best and Prepare for the Worse".
I've been successful with Restoring TWRP Backups made but, have always had an (approximately) 50% +/- of a restoration working without any issues (a chance of requiring a fresh installation in the end).
In another words...
The only "recommended" way to upgrade/downgrade the LineageOS Android Versions is to make sure you have everything on hand for performing a fresh installation for both the upgrading and the downgrading of both Android Versions.
For anyone to guide you any other way should (ethically) be able to provide you with guidance in case something goes wrong in the process (of said guidance) with your specific device.
You should also ask for support and guidance within the LineageOS thread and, if needed, somewhere within the Device Dedicated Area of the forum that's specific to your device. This will help locate assistance from those who has your device as well.
For example...
[ROM][9.0.x] LineageOS 16.0 Official (kiwi) [NO VoLTE] by BadDaemon
[ROM] [9.x] LineageOS 16.0 Pie Unofficial for Honor 5x (kiwi) by coldhans
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x
I hope that I had explained this okay via text... :thumbup:
I wish you the best of luck!
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Ibuprophen said:
To be honest, there's various ways for backing up a whole device but, there's limited (possibly no) choices that all depends upon the device itself and the capabilities of said device. So there's no real way of answering this question without, also, taking under consideration that what works for one may/may not work for another.
With that stated...
I've always found that the only way to know if I like something as huge as updating the Custom Android version Firmware, is to "Hope for the Best and Prepare for the Worse".
I've been successful with Restoring TWRP Backups made but, have always had an (approximately) 50% +/- of a restoration working without any issues (a chance of requiring a fresh installation in the end).
In another words...
The only "recommended" way to upgrade/downgrade the LineageOS Android Versions is to make sure you have everything on hand for performing a fresh installation for both the upgrading and the downgrading of both Android Versions.
For anyone to guide you any other way should (ethically) be able to provide you with guidance in case something goes wrong in the process (of said guidance) with your specific device.
You should also ask for support and guidance within the LineageOS thread and, if needed, somewhere within the Device Dedicated Area of the forum that's specific to your device. This will help locate assistance from those who has your device as well.
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Hi there, thanks for the answer and sorry for the delayed reaction, I was busy
I will investigate on the linked threads and see what I want to do after that. My main concern being fingerprint sensor gestures (I know, stupid habits lol) asking on the kiwi forum is definitely a good idea. Same things for installing TWRP and the recovery, someone there would probably be able to help.
Thanks a lot for your time

Question what about twrp guys? :(

hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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What device and firmware?
TheGhost1951 said:
What device and firmware?
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i want to buy normal OP9P
Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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The OnePlus 9 pro is good for customizing!
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
MJPollard said:
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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Bugscze said:
You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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There's a user/team on the >OnePlus 6 & 6T forums<, that has had success with Android 12 and 13 decrypt, I use it on my 6T, and decrypt works flawlessly, I use it to flash Magisk when changing/updating ROMs.
It's Unofficial however, I hope it trickles to other devices.
Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?
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@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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thank you bro for explain, what do you think about chinese OP9P? i can change the rom, 5G i dont care that much, anthing else? is quality the same like hardware and plastic and fiber and this things? i mean phone body and screen
Bugscze said:
You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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thanks, <3
Evon88 said:
thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?
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All of them are made in china and I think will be good quality OnePlus phone. I don't know if they use anything different (except rom). You can change from colorOS to oxygenOS
twrp not needed
vincemue said:
twrp not needed
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Needed, maybe not. Desired, definitely. It can do a lot of things that the stock and AOSP recoveries simply can't (to name just one: it can wipe data without wiping storage, as I mentioned above; stock/AOSP recoveries' "factory reset" wipe destroys everything).
MJPollard said:
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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I was on LE2127_11_C20 A12 with tarp and root.......the mail reason it worked was no lock screen security. I did try with setting a password is be cause a script to try and make partitions R/W but that put me in a bootloader loop. Went back to 11.2.9.9..
Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?
dartballs said:
Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?
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Who are you asking?
Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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The Indian variant has dual SIM. Maybe some others variants, too.

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