I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
It's easy to find by the nomenclature.
Their names include MIUI or a variation of it.
Some are: Revolution OS, MIUI Pro, MIUI Eu, Masik ROM.
Egyptiandroid said:
Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
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You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
Letrix said:
You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
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In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
Oero :
U can go for MSM-Extended... Stable , Good battery life too !
Pie :
Liquid Remix
Superior OS
:good:
RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
RKStyles said:
I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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I believe his question was about custom MIUI roms which have firmware update removed so that risk of bricking is non existent. I believe reading that Masik does not contain firmware, but I'm not sure.
Other than your good explanation about ARB4 vs ARB3, one thing to add: anyone on ARB4 can flash any ARB4 rom since the bootloader checks for anti rollback protection index but not the MIUI version specifically. So any rom starting from Stable v9.5.19 if I remember and Beta 8.7.6 are safe, until ARB5 comes (if it comes, and if it requires ARB5).
RKStyles said:
I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I am gonna try this recovery. But do you mean that i can even flash miui official rom without bricking phone?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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as long as they tell you in the rom features or installation that doesnt affect ARB or doesnt touch firmware its ok.. but not sure if not all miui based roms have firmeareless. so you need to read rom intructions.
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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PE Extended. Also depends on the Kernel. But nothing like MIUI gives you better battery life.
try mcaosp rom... you won't switch to any other rom ever... best custom pie rom in my opinion. or if wanna go for miui based go for masik x1.7
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...rom-whyred-t3864111/post78150797#post78150797
Kireto00 said:
Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
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no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
abdullah alotaibi said:
no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
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You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
Kireto00 said:
You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
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i bricked mi device twice and solve it
i am on arb 4 thats not change.by pitchblack recovery i downgrade to arb3 roms wothout brick am sure and test .in youtobe search pitchblack recovery from arb4 to arb3
arb 4 not change but device not brick its work fine
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As Like Going to Android O after Instaliing Android P is a downgrade too, So I was just wondering if I can checkout Mokee Android P Rom, Can I get back to MIUI 8.7.12 (Oreo), Or even Anti Rollback Policy will Restrict me from doing that. I finally manage to download and flash TWRP on my RN5 Pro so far. I love MIUI but Even love to Check Another Roms. I'm at MIUI 8.7.12 currently.
I'll be glad if some MODERATORS will reply me about it, As I want to check Android P, biut without Bricking my Phone lol.
******HELP ME with that.
dmishra639 said:
As Like Going to Android O after Instaliing Android P is a downgrade too, So I was just wondering if I can checkout Mokee Android P Rom, Can I get back to MIUI 8.7.5 (Oreo), Or even Anti Rollback Policy will Restrict me from doing that. I finally manage to download and flash TWRP on my RN5 Pro so far. I love MIUI but Even love to Check Another Roms.
I'll be glad if some MODERATORS will reply me about it, As I want to check Android P, biut without Bricking my Phone lol.
******HELP ME with that.
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miui 10 8.7.5 is ARB3
this only applies to MIUI roms if AOSP or LAOS it doesnt apply.
but when going back to miui go back to 8.7.5 or global stable 5.9.17.0
raptorddd said:
miui 10 8.7.5 is ARB3
this only applies to MIUI roms if AOSP or LAOS it doesnt apply.
but when going back to miui go back to 8.7.5 or global stable 5.9.17.0
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I'm sorry 8.7.12 actually,
It's arb 4.
dmishra639 said:
I'm sorry 8.7.12 actually,
It's mrb 4.
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yes you can use AOSP or LAOS roms no problem here.. only in miui.. do not flash older 9.5.17.0 global stable or miui 10 8.7.5 only in miui roms you get ARB search more and youll find how to..
raptorddd said:
yes you can use AOSP or LAOS roms no problem here.. only in miui.. do not flash older 9.5.17.0 global stable or miui 10 8.7.5 only in miui roms you get ARB search more and youll find how to..
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Thanks, so basically I can roll back from Mokee to the latest version of MIUI, whatever it'll be?
dmishra639 said:
Thanks, so basically I can roll back from Mokee to the latest version of MIUI, whatever it'll be?
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right
but take a look in here in antirollback threads research just to make sure
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-everything-anti-roll-t3816219
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/faq-questions-answered-t3816185
Thanks man, it's really helped alot,
I appreciate that ?
Hello Guys after 15 days today I unlocked my bootloader ! after unlocked bootloader juz checked my ARB i have ARB : 2 !! Honestly I'm not fan of MIUI !! I want try some AOSP BASE ROMS as my daily drivers ! ROMS likes rr, linage os 15 or Android Pie 9.0 etc !! So my question is can I flash TWRP RECOVERY OR FLASH ANY CUSTOM ROMS in ARB 2 without any trouble also without bricking device !! Thanks you
Blissey said:
Hello Guys after 15 days today I unlocked my bootloader ! after unlocked bootloader juz checked my ARB i have ARB : 2 !! Honestly I'm not fan of MIUI !! I want try some AOSP BASE ROMS as my daily drivers ! ROMS likes rr, linage os 15 or Android Pie 9.0 etc !! So my question is can I flash TWRP RECOVERY OR FLASH ANY CUSTOM ROMS in ARB 2 without any trouble also without bricking device !! Thanks you
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Yes, you absolutely can. Even in ARP3 you wouldn't have any problem. Only ARP4 is a headache for us. So be careful not to upgrade your bootloader to ARP4.
kostas gp said:
Yes, you absolutely can. Even in ARP3 you wouldn't have any problem. Only ARP4 is a headache for us. So be careful not to upgrade your bootloader to ARP4.
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Thanks you sir for reply
i am also in anti 3 miui version 9.2.13. if i install rr rom is there any way to go back miui 9.2.13 without any problem
pradeepvg said:
i am also in anti 3 miui version 9.2.13. if i install rr rom is there any way to go back miui 9.2.13 without any problem
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Just flash miui rom (.zip) from TWRP or u can use miflash (.tgz). Even with level 4 you can return (only to 9.5.19)
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
Silvers91 said:
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
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8.8.23 has arb4
LeekGeek said:
8.8.23 has arb4
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So I will brick my device if I flash Pixel ROM?
Silvers91 said:
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
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yes ..
just make sure that if ever going back to miui that it be a ARB4..
raptorddd said:
yes ..
just make sure that if ever going back to miui that it be a ARB4..
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So what do I need to do to avoid bricking?
Silvers91 said:
So what do I need to do to avoid bricking?
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if going back to miui 9.5 dont flash 9.5.17.0 or older roms.. from 9.5.17.0 and older they are ARB3..
if miui 10 dont flash 8.7.5 thats ARB3..
raptorddd said:
if going back to miui 9.5 dont flash 9.5.17.0 or older roms.. from 9.5.17.0 and older they are ARB3..
if miui 10 dont flash 8.7.5 thats ARB3..
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Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
Silvers91 said:
Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
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and i did said YES.... to pixel experience...
but i wanted to kindly let you know about ARB.. in case you didnt know..
Silvers91 said:
Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
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Just flash pixel ROM
For other custom ROMs do not flash any firmware file recommended by custom ROM developer, because those firmware files are 8.7.5 MIUI firmware. If you try to flash firmware files then you are going to brick your device
nfl46 said:
Did you successfully get it installed?
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Not yet, still 2 hours to go.
I'm on the latest MIUI 10.0.0.1 stable Chinese.
I just want to flash the latest Global. Can I do this by just unlocking bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery, then flash the latest Global recovery.zip file? Or do I need to worry about ARB?
If you want to go back, make sure you will flash these version or higher
—Answered— Thank You!!
Hi, I just bought Redmi Note 5 today and after I turn it on, it is already on MIUI 10 8.7.5 Global Beta. The question is, can I roll it back to to MIUI 9.6 Global Stable? Because I found this rom isn't comfortable and I found so many bugs. I don't want to update it to MIUI 10 stable yet because ppl in MIUI forums complained that there are some bugs.
Thanks
Wtf...New device came with Developer beta rom?
algoo98 said:
Hi, I just bought Redmi Note 5 today and after I turn it on, it is already on MIUI 10 8.7.5 Global Beta. The question is, can I roll it back to to MIUI 9.6 Global Stable? Because I found this rom isn't comfortable and I found so many bugs. I don't want to update it to MIUI 10 stable yet because ppl in MIUI forums complained that there are some bugs.
Thanks
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8.7.5 miui 10 is ARB3 you can rollback to 9.5 miui 9.5.17.0 thats last ARB3..
or get 9.6.4.0 thats ARB4.
How come new device comes with beta ROM?? Something wrong with reseller please contact ask them
Right now your device is on arb3 (no antirollback) you can upgrade to latest version with firmware less ROM
Hemanth28 said:
Wtf...New device came with Developer beta rom?
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Ikr lol ?
raptorddd said:
8.7.5 miui 10 is ARB3 you can rollback to 9.5 miui 9.5.17.0 thats last ARB3..
or get 9.6.4.0 thats ARB4.
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Thanks a lot sir!
SunilSuni said:
How come new device comes with beta ROM?? Something wrong with reseller please contact ask them
Right now your device is on arb3 (no antirollback) you can upgrade to latest version with firmware less ROM
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I know it's weird.
Thank you so much, I've upgraded it now ?
Somebody can help me
Hi , si
can i go back to miui 9.6.4? I currently have 10 miui but I want to return to that version, as I can do it safely, I do not want my cell phone to be as brick because of the antirollback.
I do not have root
I do not have the bootloader unlocked
yTU158 said:
Hi , si
can i go back to miui 9.6.4? I currently have 10 miui but I want to return to that version, as I can do it safely, I do not want my cell phone to be as brick because of the antirollback.
I do not have root
I do not have the bootloader unlocked
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Yes you can donwgrade to 9.6.4 just flash recovery ROM using updater
thanks so much for your answer. Miui 10 stable and miui 9.6.4 have arb4 is true? So i will not have some problem with my Xiaomi.
or what is the reason of your answer
SunilSuni said:
Yes you can donwgrade to 9.6.4 just flash recovery ROM using updater
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yTU158 said:
thanks so much for your answer. Miui 10 stable and miui 9.6.4 have arb4 is true? So i will not have some problem with my Xiaomi.
or what is the reason of your answer
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Yes MIUI10 and 9.6.4 both have arb4 thats why you can switch between these ROMs
SunilSuni said:
Yes you can donwgrade to 9.6.4 just flash recovery ROM using updater
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Currently I am in miui10 stable and I want to go 9.5.19 but I don't want to unlock bootloader or flash via fastboot can I do this miui10 to 9.6.4 & then 9.6.4 to 9.6.3 & then 9.6.4 to 9.5.19 via updater
Abhi_2k_Rk said:
Currently I am in miui10 stable and I want to go 9.5.19 but I don't want to unlock bootloader or flash via fastboot can I do this miui10 to 9.6.4 & then 9.6.4 to 9.6.3 & then 9.6.4 to 9.5.19 via updater
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You can directly go from MIUI10 to 9.5.19
After downgrading just do a factory reset
Hello. I have been using Xiaomi.eu 20.6.18 based on MIUI 12.1
In a few days I think that they will release MIUI 12.0 based stable release but my phone has ARP so I think that downgrading will brick it, don't it?
Anyway, this weekly ROM is working well at the moment but I would like to use the stable version someday. I have some doubts so I will put numbers in them:
1. Can I go back to MIUI 12.0 based ROM while using MIUI 12.1 based ROM or not? without triggering anti-rollback
2. Can I switch to Pixel Experience (for example) which is using Android 10? It is a newer version of Android but I don't know how MIUI ARP handles it
3. If the point 2 answer is 'yes', I suppose that ARP is gone (at least Xiaomi's one) so, can I install Xiaomi.eu MIUI 12.0 from Pixel Experience? (I will be downgrading I know)
Thanks all of you for your future answers, and sorry for the number of questions. Any doubt about my explanation or something just ask
Arb only matters if u go back to very old version of miui ie, 9 and some version of miui 10....it doesn't matter with custom ROMs also...u can also check ur current arb status
No arb was implemented with miui 9.5.19 (global stable), so u can go till this version without bricking ur phone.
As u r on latest beta u have an index value of 4.
Sidgup1998 said:
No arb was implemented with miui 9.5.19 (global stable), so u can go till this version without bricking ur phone.
As u r on latest beta u have an index value of 4.
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I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
umair42 said:
I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
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Anyone?Please.
umair42 said:
I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
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Yes u can go easily.
I will recommend to go with fast boot method if u plan returning to miui 11
(I've used miui 12 20.6.18 eu build and successfully returned to miui 11 without bricking)
Sidgup1998 said:
Yes u can go easily.
I will recommend to go with fast boot method if u plan returning to miui 11
(I've used miui 12 20.6.18 eu build and successfully returned to miui 11 without bricking)
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Thanks for the reply.Can I use recovery method to return to miui 11?
And how was miui 12 20.6.18?Was it better than miui 11?
umair42 said:
Thanks for the reply.Can I use recovery method to return to miui 11?
And how was miui 12 20.6.18?Was it better than miui 11?
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Yes u can use the recovery method for returning back to miui 11.
Why i was recommending the fast boot method?
Bcoz I've seen if u flash global miui after flashing china based/eu roms, u cannot change ur region to other country other than china. Obviously this can be fixed by editing build.prop or flash region fix but u will have to root in the 1st case.
But u can try recovery method brother.
Yes miui 12 is better than 11 bcoz of new privacy features, ios style control center, no miui optimization api.
Sidgup1998 said:
Yes u can use the recovery method for returning back to miui 11.
Why i was recommending the fast boot method?
Bcoz I've seen if u flash global miui after flashing china based/eu roms, u cannot change ur region to other country other than china. Obviously this can be fixed by editing build.prop or flash region fix but u will have to root in the 1st case.
But u can try recovery method brother.
Yes miui 12 is better than 11 bcoz of new privacy features, ios style control center, no miui optimization api.
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Thanks i always root my phone so no problem for me.