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Can I install MIUI 8.7.26 (MIUI10) without worrying about ARB?

I have a Redmi Note 5 Global with MIUI 9.5.19, and I want to install 8.7.26 (MIUI10) because I can't unlock my bootloader yet (14 days to go).
My question is: can I do that safely without bricking my device? And can I go back to MIUI 9.5.19 if I wanted to?
Thanks!

I did same thing and it worked flawlessly.

Mentu12 said:
I did same thing and it worked flawlessly.
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You have a locked bootloader? You used a recovery ROM or a fastboot ROM (MiFlash tool)?
Thanks!

Silvers91 said:
You have a locked bootloader? You used a recovery ROM or a fastboot ROM (MiFlash tool)?
Thanks!
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Just update through the phones settings with the zip file. You might need to try different MIUI 10 versions. There is always only one version you can go to from your current MIUI 9 version. Took me 4 tries but now it's working great

domsch1988 said:
Just update through the phones settings with the zip file. You might need to try different MIUI 10 versions. There is always only one version you can go to from your current MIUI 9 version. Took me 4 tries but now it's working great
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I flashed MIUI 8.7.26 through the method you mentioned without issues, but it has so many bugs, especially with notifications on lockscreen that bother me so much. Do you know if I can revert back to global stable MIUI 9 with the same method without issues with ARB?

Am I safe to proceed?

I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!

Silvers91 said:
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
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8.8.23 has arb4

LeekGeek said:
8.8.23 has arb4
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So I will brick my device if I flash Pixel ROM?

Silvers91 said:
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
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yes ..
just make sure that if ever going back to miui that it be a ARB4..

raptorddd said:
yes ..
just make sure that if ever going back to miui that it be a ARB4..
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So what do I need to do to avoid bricking?

Silvers91 said:
So what do I need to do to avoid bricking?
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if going back to miui 9.5 dont flash 9.5.17.0 or older roms.. from 9.5.17.0 and older they are ARB3..
if miui 10 dont flash 8.7.5 thats ARB3..

raptorddd said:
if going back to miui 9.5 dont flash 9.5.17.0 or older roms.. from 9.5.17.0 and older they are ARB3..
if miui 10 dont flash 8.7.5 thats ARB3..
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Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.

Silvers91 said:
Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
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and i did said YES.... to pixel experience...
but i wanted to kindly let you know about ARB.. in case you didnt know..

Silvers91 said:
Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
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Just flash pixel ROM
For other custom ROMs do not flash any firmware file recommended by custom ROM developer, because those firmware files are 8.7.5 MIUI firmware. If you try to flash firmware files then you are going to brick your device

nfl46 said:
Did you successfully get it installed?
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Not yet, still 2 hours to go.

I'm on the latest MIUI 10.0.0.1 stable Chinese.
I just want to flash the latest Global. Can I do this by just unlocking bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery, then flash the latest Global recovery.zip file? Or do I need to worry about ARB?

If you want to go back, make sure you will flash these version or higher

I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom, Help me

I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?

Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?

It's easy to find by the nomenclature.
Their names include MIUI or a variation of it.
Some are: Revolution OS, MIUI Pro, MIUI Eu, Masik ROM.
Egyptiandroid said:
Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
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You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.

Letrix said:
You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
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In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?

Oero :
U can go for MSM-Extended... Stable , Good battery life too !
Pie :
Liquid Remix
Superior OS
:good:

RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?

Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device

RKStyles said:
I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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I believe his question was about custom MIUI roms which have firmware update removed so that risk of bricking is non existent. I believe reading that Masik does not contain firmware, but I'm not sure.
Other than your good explanation about ARB4 vs ARB3, one thing to add: anyone on ARB4 can flash any ARB4 rom since the bootloader checks for anti rollback protection index but not the MIUI version specifically. So any rom starting from Stable v9.5.19 if I remember and Beta 8.7.6 are safe, until ARB5 comes (if it comes, and if it requires ARB5).

RKStyles said:
I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal

abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I am gonna try this recovery. But do you mean that i can even flash miui official rom without bricking phone?

Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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as long as they tell you in the rom features or installation that doesnt affect ARB or doesnt touch firmware its ok.. but not sure if not all miui based roms have firmeareless. so you need to read rom intructions.

shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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PE Extended. Also depends on the Kernel. But nothing like MIUI gives you better battery life.

try mcaosp rom... you won't switch to any other rom ever... best custom pie rom in my opinion. or if wanna go for miui based go for masik x1.7

shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...rom-whyred-t3864111/post78150797#post78150797

Kireto00 said:
Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
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no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:

abdullah alotaibi said:
no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
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You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that

Kireto00 said:
You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
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i bricked mi device twice and solve it
i am on arb 4 thats not change.by pitchblack recovery i downgrade to arb3 roms wothout brick am sure and test .in youtobe search pitchblack recovery from arb4 to arb3
arb 4 not change but device not brick its work fine

Confused about flashing custom rom 9 pie on zui stock 2.5 bootloader..??

Hey guys ,
i am using pixel experience 8.1 right now and some where i read "you have to update your bootloader to flash new android pie roms i dont know my bootloader version plz help me ..?
note -- i flashed pixel experience 8.1 on indian Z2plus ZUI 2.0.093_ST_16081

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affaan007 said:
Hey guys ,
i am using pixel experience 8.1 right now and some where i read "you have to update your bootloader to flash new android pie roms i dont know my bootloader version plz help me ..?
note -- i flashed pixel experience 8.1 on indian Z2plus ZUI 2.0.093_ST_16081
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i suggest you to try flashing the new roms and in case you get a blue screen , qfil latest firmware to update bootloader , i dont think theres another way to check the bootloader version .
And dont worry getting a blue screen wont brick the device or anything , if you get it just boot back to twrp and follow the procedure for updating the bootloader through qfil (there are plenty of instructions available ,read em carefully and you will be fine).
PS: you need an updated bootloader only for roms which ship with latest kernel 4.4 and not 3.18 .
so yeah you can try pie roms which have 3.18 kernel without hesitation.
Also keep in mind that if you do decide to update the bootloader and flash roms with latest kernel , you need to flash vendortofactory.zip and new factory twrp due to new implementation so DO READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY IN THE THREAD OF WHATEVER ROM YOU FLASH !

Mine is 3.18 kernal I guess I have to update my bootloader using qfil if want to flash pixel experience 9 pie
Can you send me the link for required files to update bootloader thanks ?

affaan007 said:
Hey guys ,
i am using pixel experience 8.1 right now and some where i read "you have to update your bootloader to flash new android pie roms i dont know my bootloader version plz help me ..?
note -- i flashed pixel experience 8.1 on indian Z2plus ZUI 2.0.093_ST_16081
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I've needed to update to ZUI 4.0 before installing Android 9.0 Pie ROMs.

Help/Guide needed to update from Android 9 (Aosp rom) to Android 11

Hello friends,
Greetings!
I need your assistance in installing custom rom (Android 11) in my redmi note 8. Currently i was in anroid 9 aosp (pototo) rom. I have nt used this mobile for long time using other mobile.
Much appreciated your help.

shameemindia said:
Hello friends,
Greetings!
I need your assistance in installing custom rom (Android 11) in my redmi note 8. Currently i was in anroid 9 aosp (pototo) rom. I have nt used this mobile for long time using other mobile.
Much appreciated your help.
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do a clean flash (replace A10 FW with A11 FW)

loopypalm said:
do a clean flash (replace A10 FW with A11 FW)
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Thanks for the info, but still not clear.
Im currently running Aosp 9 rom installed almost a year back.
Do i have to flash android 10 official firmaware and thern android 11 official firmware and root, twrp and flash custom rom. Or directly possible to flash aosp 11 rom through twrp?

shameemindia said:
Im currently running Aosp 9 rom installed almost a year back.
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dosen't matter, instruction did not change since then
shameemindia said:
Do i have to flash android 10 FW and then android 11 ?
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no need, FW always overwrite files, (that's why it's possible to downgrade FW)
just one thing to keep in mind :
some A11 dev recomand using A10 FW to be able to use 5GHz frequency in WiFi
ask the dev of the rom you want to use about the FW if you plan to use 5GHz ...
shameemindia said:
Or directly possible to flash aosp 11 rom through twrp?
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possible ,but twrp have some encryption problems after flashing A11 rom, that's why i recomand using orangefox

loopypalm said:
do a clean flash (replace A10 FW with A11 FW)
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Thanks for the info, but still not clear.
Im curr
loopypalm said:
dosen't matter, instruction did not change since then
no need, FW always overwrite files, (that's why it's possible to downgrade FW)
just one thing to keep in mind :
some A11 dev recomand using A10 FW to be able to use 5GHz frequency in WiFi
ask the dev of the rom you want to use about the FW if you plan to use 5GHz ...
possible ,but twrp have some encryption problems after flashing A11 rom, that's why i recomand using orangefox
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Thanks for the info bro