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NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ??

any idea if i change my radio version on TP2 by installing AT&T or T-Mobile it could works the 3G on it?? i have TP2 EURO Version witch is runing on Edge Speed Network.

Its highly unlikely. The only reason i'm not gonna say a definitive no is because of the rumored world tp2. Now if its anything like the last like 3-4 HTC phones the antenna for the USA 3G bands is not installed in the device so u can do all the software u want but it won't change the fact that u won't get 3G

not gonna work, there's nothing u can do. This has been addressed many times, just search.

to bad as a good phone like tp2 does not support North American 3G
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.

NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ?? ¡¡¡Wait!!!
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html

cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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you really should have read up on this forum before you bought the phone. like esincho said, this has been addressed many, many times.

bujucito said:
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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that's not really an accurate pic of AT&T's TP2. especially because of the QWERTZ keyboard. this was discussed too lol

cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck

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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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I live in a 3G arean and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G

mac208x said:
I live in a 3G area and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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Yeah, there is not much of a difference if you use EDGE or 3G on the phone itself. I do everything on EDGE, and i'm quite happy. The peak i got here is 20kb/s and is fast enough for my everyday needs. I can even stream youtube normally, just like my PC.
The big difference here is when you tether. On everything else, EDGE is fine.

I live in a 3G area and just switched from my xperia to the touch pro 2 and there is a huge difference depending on what browser u use. And youtube loads very slow on edge at least for me it does. 3G was much faster!

Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.

^agree, usa 3G is a must have for speedy internet, streaming, etc.

mmdirk said:
Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar

well if you put the skyfire browser it makes a major differnece in speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXgBcegnrs

osanchezm said:
Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.

bersca said:
Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Hi Bersca,
You are right, it is a Rhodium100
Regards
Omar

Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...

Upfront??? Its all over these forums on HTC's website. I'm not sure how much more information you needed? A big red sign? I don't understand this confusion.

Lenstar said:
Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
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seriously, stop posting your sob story in any thread you find.
it's no one's fault but yours that you bought the European version that doesn't run 3G in the US. if you had done your research instead of relying only on whatever online store you purchased it from, you would have known that the Rhodium 100 doesn't have the necessary bands to support 3G here.
all that info is in this forum, all you had to do was look. so stop blaming the online merchant for not being "upfront" with you, because no one here will care. it's your fault for not researching the phone further than "ooohhhh the screen tilts and it's a 3.6 inch WVGA resolution and it has dual speakers and blah blah blah" learn from this mistake so you won't waste your money and posting space on the forum.

[Q] Disadvantages N7105 (LTE) over N7100

I received a "N7100" today, which should have been the LTE version aka "N7105". I'm considering keeping it though...
What are the DISADVANTAGES of the N7105 over the N7100? I'm guessing:
- reduced battery life, but how bad is it really?
- higher price tag: I read on some UK forums a GBP 50 price difference on a branded device; anyone has a idea of the difference for an unlocked version?
- availability? I can't find an unlocked N7105 in stock anywhere here in Northern Europe, not even pre-order.
- fewer custom ROMs?
- no root (yet)?
- other considerations?

dXsL said:
I received a "N7100" today, which should have been the LTE version aka "N7105". I'm considering keeping it though...
What are the DISADVANTAGES of the N7105 over the N7100? I'm guessing:
- reduced battery life, but how bad is it really?
- higher price tag: I read on some UK forums a GBP 50 price difference on a branded device; anyone has a idea of the difference for an unlocked version?
- availability? I can't find an unlocked N7105 in stock anywhere here in Northern Europe, not even pre-order.
- fewer custom ROMs?
- no root (yet)?
- other considerations?
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Long wait for firmware updates

dXsL said:
I received a "N7100" today, which should have been the LTE version aka "N7105". I'm considering keeping it though...
What are the DISADVANTAGES of the N7105 over the N7100? I'm guessing:
- reduced battery life, but how bad is it really?
- higher price tag: I read on some UK forums a GBP 50 price difference on a branded device; anyone has a idea of the difference for an unlocked version?
- availability? I can't find an unlocked N7105 in stock anywhere here in Northern Europe, not even pre-order.
- fewer custom ROMs?
- no root (yet)?
- other considerations?
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1. not noticeable for me
2. yes, more price for LTE, let see yr demand for that
3. regional problem
4. yes atm
5. root available at first day N7105 arrive

Hard to say what the disadvantages are between the N7100 and N7105 without owning both.
Currently, I have N7105 and having LTE makes more sense for future proofing (that's of course, if the network has it). I don't see major threads about LTE battery life but am used to charging each night.
There does seem to be less custom roms at the moment.
I got my N7105 on contract and didn't even see the option for N7100 so cost wasn't an issue. You may need to reconsider your plan though as running at 4G.
Just my 2c.

Sorry to say but LTE version has no FM radio...

in Singapore, we dont hv the option of N7100... so price vise is not an issue. matter of fact, i don't see any disadvantages between them. but for sure, N7105 gv u an option to use 3G or 4G in which... i hv tested, 4G can perform 5 - 10 times faster by using speedtest apps... as for more custom rom for N7100... that i hv to agree, at this moment... but i'm very sure... soon either existing roms to be compatible both version, or more new roms for N7105.
battery vise... i hv no problem at all. previous version i use, s2,n7000,s3...all also i use that bulky extended battery if i don't want to worry abt running out of juice. but this N7105...same usage as the rest... remarkably it can last me morning till night without using any extended battery.
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda premium

I believe you can disable 4G and just have it on 3G/HSPA+ to conserve battery AFAIK.

I have owned both. I currently have the 7105 for future proof. My initial observation is that battery really drains quicker, but that is with 4g enabled eventhough I dont have 4g connection. I will observe more.... no need for roms because stock rom is excellent for me. For root, search for chainfire root guide for 7100, there is also a download specific for 7105 there.
What I dont understand is the settings for changing networks have only 2 options. 2g/3g/4g (auto mode) or 3g only. There should be 2g/3g mode as well.

I choose the N7100. Convincing arguments for me:
- battery drain (even though you can switch if off, just like 3G in the old days was an issue)
- FM radio (I'm streaming 99% of the time, but I still like listening to radio once in a while)
Ultimate argument: what is future-proof really? by the time 4G coverage is up to par (in my country at least), I'll probably be using a Note IV

I intend to keep my Note 2 for 3-4 years... can't really think of anything else I need on a phablet, and LTE will make it future proof...

LTE as standard in the UK
I believe the LTE version will become the norm in the UK at least. EE (The new Orange/T-Mobile) is now shipping the LTE version only and the other telco's will follow suit for "we are 4G ready" marketing purpose if nothing else. I would expect Samsung to push this model in other countries as well.
Not noticed any battery problems with my 7105, even with 4G enabled (I'm not in a 4G area though). I didn't realise about the FM radio which is a shame, but like I say, I had no option but a 7105 with EE.

Network (Singapore, M1)
Im using N7105: Here's my personal review on battery both 3G & LTE
Network on 3G: Battery time - 16 hours (Pure 3G) - 20 hours (With some wifi connection)
Network on LTE 4G: Battery time - 10 hours (Pure LTE) - 14 hours (With some wifi connection)

I've got the lte, I can't compare to non lte note 2, but the battery lasts a lot longer than my non lte s3(mostly because of increased capacity I know, but I never put my note down whereas I was bored with my s3).
The main advantage of lte version for me is faster downloads even though I'm on 3 and dont use lte, the hspa+ dc gave me a download speed last week of 20mb!
It should also have higher resale value next year when I buy the s4 or note 3
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda premium

mzsport said:
Network (Singapore, M1)
Im using N7105: Here's my personal review on battery both 3G & LTE
Network on 3G: Battery time - 16 hours (Pure 3G) - 20 hours (With some wifi connection)
Network on LTE 4G: Battery time - 10 hours (Pure LTE) - 14 hours (With some wifi connection)
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Do you mean you are connected and downloading stuff for all those hours you state?

[email protected] said:
in Singapore, we dont hv the option of N7100... so price vise is not an issue. matter of fact, i don't see any disadvantages between them. but for sure, N7105 gv u an option to use 3G or 4G in which... i hv tested, 4G can perform 5 - 10 times faster by using speedtest apps... as for more custom rom for N7100... that i hv to agree, at this moment... but i'm very sure... soon either existing roms to be compatible both version, or more new roms for N7105.
battery vise... i hv no problem at all. previous version i use, s2,n7000,s3...all also i use that bulky extended battery if i don't want to worry abt running out of juice. but this N7105...same usage as the rest... remarkably it can last me morning till night without using any extended battery.
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda premium
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Tony, can you please confirm that the N7105 version sold in Singapore does not have an FM radio. Is it available sim free and what price can it be bought for?
Regards,
Stefan

nm8 said:
Do you mean you are connected and downloading stuff for all those hours you state?
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At my working place as I go in and out of my office (WiFi area)
70% outside 30% wifi, if you need a breakdown.
Normal usage, phone call, whatsapp, facebook & a bit of 3D gaming.
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nm8 said:
Do you mean you are connected and downloading stuff for all those hours you state?
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SJKowal said:
Tony, can you please confirm that the N7105 version sold in Singapore does not have an FM radio. Is it available sim free and what price can it be bought for?
Regards,
Stefan
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Stefan, Im from SG. Yes, Singapore only has GT-N7105 model. No FM. Unlock set. Around S$890+
So far, the stocks are very limited in SG. Good sales.

mzsport said:
At my working place as I go in and out of my office (WiFi area)
70% outside 30% wifi, if you need a breakdown.
Normal usage, phone call, whatsapp, facebook & a bit of 3D gaming.
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Stefan, Im from SG. Yes, Singapore only has GT-N7105 model. No FM. Unlock set. Around S$890+
So far, the stocks are very limited in SG. Good sales.
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Thanks Tony. They are just a bit too expensive at present. It would exceed the permissible Customs level when re-entering the UK. Stefan
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mzsport said:
At my working place as I go in and out of my office (WiFi area)
70% outside 30% wifi, if you need a breakdown.
Normal usage, phone call, whatsapp, facebook & a bit of 3D gaming.
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Stefan, Im from SG. Yes, Singapore only has GT-N7105 model. No FM. Unlock set. Around S$890+
So far, the stocks are very limited in SG. Good sales.
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Thanks Tony. They are just a bit too expensive at present. It would exceed the permissible Customs level when re-entering the UK. Stefan

I only have the non LTE version, bought it sim free. Do I regret not getting the LTE model? Not really.
Yeah it will be worth more second hand but most the time I use the likes of mazhuma to sell my phones too and they will be little difference at sale time.
Also I'm on tmobile (ee) but am on an unlimited data plan that includes tethering so won't be in a rush to change to a ee 4g plan. If tmobile used dc-hsdpa which I don't think they do then maybe that's the only advantage for me but even with that, what I use data for either on the phone or via tether the speed given by dc-hsdpa isn't that important to me.
Then, although I'm locked into my tmobile contact for another 18 months I'm likely to swap my phone within 8 months anyway so the 4g picture will be a lot clearer then.
Sent from my Samsung Note II.

I had FM radio on my Galaxy Note N7000. And I think I used it twice in 12 month. I easily trade this for the LTE capability in my N7105.

I would rather have lte for future proof rather than manual radio. It is fiddly and you need the headset for it to work. I have tunein radio pro which allows me to listen to any online radio station in the world. Digital radio will take over analog radio anyway just like the tv signals.

LG d855 Euro model of G3, since not using LTE will it have unlimited data?

I have a d855 model and I read it can't use LTE. Mine displays H instead of LTE but streams hd video as fast as my LTE phone or at least I notice no difference. When I did speed test when tether to laptop I got 4mbps which is still high speed but I think LTE is way faster.
My question is if no 4g/LTE which is limited at 2.5gb per month then am I unlimited high speed ? Just slower high speed.

Nope, 2.5gb with LTE, HSDPA, 3G, EDGE or GPRS and after that your speed will be limited to 64kbit/s (or slower) till end of month.

The phone does in fact have LTE. And whatever stipulations are concerning your data plan are specific to the plan you have on your wireless carrier.

Japultra said:
The phone does in fact have LTE. And whatever stipulations are concerning your data plan are specific to the plan you have on your wireless carrier.
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I'm not so much concerned with LTE being available in other parts of the world based on the frequencies of the d855. I need LTE here in the USA and so far I've found the question asked a ton of times and all of the answers are that it does not have LTE. It does not have 1700 or 1900 capabilities which is what T-mobile needs. I even read posts where ATT people can't seem to get it to work with their LTE. I tested it last night and got 3g speeds for tethering 4.19mbps, then put sim in my chinese Huawei and got 28.35mbps so for sure it's on 3g and not LTE. It works great on 3g and is fairly fast but the fact that a USA seller who is selling in the USA would specifically state 4g LTE phone and not mention anywhere in the ebay ad that LTE won't work in the country he is trying to sell it is irritating. If he was a seller in another country then it would be another story. Even his rating was great and no complaints about the d855 but most people might not care that they aren't getting LTE.

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I'm not so much concerned with LTE being available in other parts of the world based on the frequencies of the d855. I need LTE here in the USA and so far I've found the question asked a ton of times and all of the answers are that it does not have LTE. It does not have 1700 or 1900 capabilities which is what T-mobile needs. I even read posts where ATT people can't seem to get it to work with their LTE. I tested it last night and got 3g speeds for tethering 4.19mbps, then put sim in my chinese Huawei and got 28.35mbps so for sure it's on 3g and not LTE. It works great on 3g and is fairly fast but the fact that a USA seller who is selling in the USA would specifically state 4g LTE phone and not mention anywhere in the ebay ad that LTE won't work in the country he is trying to sell it is irritating. If he was a seller in another country then it would be another story. Even his rating was great and no complaints about the d855 but most people might not care that they aren't getting LTE.
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Gotcha. You never mentioned in your original post where you live so I had no idea.

Japultra said:
Gotcha. You never mentioned in your original post where you live so I had no idea.
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sorry, I noticed your info said London so figured you might not have. They said they'll refund so should be fine. I just want to make sure they don't hit me with a restockng fee. I currently use the Huawei Ascend Mate 2. 6.1" screen and 4000mah battery is hard to walk away from. It's the camera on it that isn't so awesome.

Mi Max 3 in USA

Curious to see some comments from anyone with Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile or AT&T - are you able to get a stable LTE connection? Overlapping bands are only B4 and B5, so it may not work well everywhere in US. Some speed test results and general comments on LTE connection would be appreciated.

I am still awaiting my unit to show up, its been "in transit" for 2 weeks now. I have AT&T and am also curious about this.
I have used many overseas phones in the past and even without LTE I never really had any issues with speed. HSPA+ always seemed to get the job done fine.

LTE in USA
There's another thread on the board where a fellow in NJ is using the Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile and keeping Band 4 LTE almost all the time. I'm on T-Mobile as well and I'm seriously considering the device.
I am curious, though, if the Global version will have support for additional bands?

I got this phone last week and am on Tmobile. I'm getting 50mbps down with no drops yet. I love it. The only problem I had at first was with calling, but after enabling voLTE by typing *#*#86583#*#* into the dialer, problem solved.

I'm on Cricket and pulling stable LTE constantly, though I haven't left town with it yet. Probably Band 4, but 20 is also a possibility.

h20 wireless with uses ATT network shows 4g not LTE However Tmobile shows LTE

misterk267 said:
I'm on Cricket and pulling stable LTE constantly, though I haven't left town with it yet. Probably Band 4, but 20 is also a possibility.
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Install LTE Discovery from play store - it will show you the bands you're connecting to, signal strength, towers in your area and a bunch of other useful stuff

Apo11on said:
Curious to see some comments from anyone with Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile or AT&T - are you able to get a stable LTE connection? Overlapping bands are only B4 and B5, so it may not work well everywhere in US. Some speed test results and general comments on LTE connection would be appreciated.
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minutes should be arriving in a few days. I'm Houston with T-Mobile service so I'll let you know .

mtonne said:
There's another thread on the board where a fellow in NJ is using the Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile and keeping Band 4 LTE almost all the time. I'm on T-Mobile as well and I'm seriously considering the device.
I am curious, though, if the Global version will have support for additional bands?
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Which Global version do you speak of? If you're referring to Max 3 Global ROM, which some stores pre-install - that ROM has no impact on availability of additional LTE bands.

My black 6gb/128gb arrives today from TradingShenzhen to me in UK. I have an EE UK sim in slot 1 and AT&T US sim in slot 2. I won't be able to do the best tests since I'm obviously in UK currently, but at least you'll know whether you're covered internationally and how dual sim functionality is .

On T-Moblie
I am in TX using T-Mobile and the connectivity was horrible regardless. Even had T-Mobile store try to help.
Anyway, I followed the Xiaomi advice to revert to the China ROM (the "Global" Versions are BS and have this connectivity issue from some suppliers).
I need to flash the ROM tonight since I wiped EVERYTHING after fighting with it all night.
Apparently wiping "System" in a Xiaomi might be a very bad thing. I'll find out. I used TWRP BTW.

I’m referring to the authentic Global ROM that should be onboard the Hong Kong exports.
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Which Global version do you speak of? If you're referring to Max 3 Global ROM, which some stores pre-install - that ROM has no impact on availability of additional LTE bands.
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Ald47 said:
I am in TX using T-Mobile and the connectivity was horrible regardless. Even had T-Mobile store try to help.
Anyway, I followed the Xiaomi advice to revert to the China ROM (the "Global" Versions are BS and have this connectivity issue from some suppliers).
I need to flash the ROM tonight since I wiped EVERYTHING after fighting with it all night.
Apparently wiping "System" in a Xiaomi might be a very bad thing. I'll find out. I used TWRP BTW.
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Where in TX? I’m in San Antonio.

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I’m referring to the authentic Global ROM that should be onboard the Hong Kong exports.
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Where in TX? I’m in San Antonio.
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Houston

mtonne said:
I’m referring to the authentic Global ROM that should be onboard the Hong Kong exports.
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Where in TX? I’m in San Antonio.
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I may need you to send me a recovery image of your phone, if you can, when you get it.
I'm hoping I didn't fubar this one, but I can fastboot and get into TWRP so I don't think it's a total loss.

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Install LTE Discovery from play store - it will show you the bands you're connecting to, signal strength, towers in your area and a bunch of other useful stuff
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Thanks for the recommendation - I am indeed pulling band 4 at all times.

misterk267 said:
Thanks for the recommendation - I am indeed pulling band 4 at all times.
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Any speed test data to share? Network congestions in your area are obviously not the same as mine, but during low load times your tests still give good indication what that CAT 12 LTE modem of SD636 is capable of.

Apo11on said:
Any speed test data to share? Network congestions in your area are obviously not the same as mine, but during low load times your tests still give good indication what that CAT 12 LTE modem of SD636 is capable of.
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I would, but it would be moot since I'm on Cricket and data speeds are capped at ~8Mbps or so, if I remember correctly.

Ald47 said:
I am in TX using T-Mobile and the connectivity was horrible regardless. Even had T-Mobile store try to help.
Anyway, I followed the Xiaomi advice to revert to the China ROM (the "Global" Versions are BS and have this connectivity issue from some suppliers).
I need to flash the ROM tonight since I wiped EVERYTHING after fighting with it all night.
Apparently wiping "System" in a Xiaomi might be a very bad thing. I'll find out. I used TWRP BTW.
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In Houston as well getting Chinese ROM version Tuesday. Did your connection suck cause of installed " global rom

xxfirerican said:
In Houston as well getting Chinese ROM version Tuesday. Did your connection suck cause of installed " global rom
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I believe so since changing to comes ROM stoned it for those that could. I'm out of town so I can't play with it to get it back functioning.

Mi Max 3 just arrived . First off blue color amazing. I'm in Houston on T-Mobile running original China ROM, after adding all Google apps and tweaking some settings as far as syncing this phone is running awesome here in Houston. Super fast and really loving the build quality the phone is huge in person and I can't say enough about blue color.

ATT 5G nonsense

I was with a friend who has a new iPhone that was showing 5G. I have the dual SIM international version on ATT and I know it misses band 30 so I was interested to see just how much faster his network speed was. We both ran SPEED TEST and I got a miserable 15MB download and 10MB upload. Meantime.... He couldnt even get more than 2MB on both. He wasn't very happy! We tested web browsing and mine was faster. What a con!

ekerbuddyeker said:
I was with a friend who has a new iPhone that was showing 5G. I have the dual SIM international version on ATT and I know it misses band 30 so I was interested to see just how much faster his network speed was. We both ran SPEED TEST and I got a miserable 15MB download and 10MB upload. Meantime.... He couldnt even get more than 2MB on both. He wasn't very happy! We tested web browsing and mine was faster. What a con!
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It's not true 5G, it's 5GE it's just a fancier albeit deceptive way of saying 4G LTE+ (if I'm wrong on the LTE+ part my bad I know it's still 4G though) real 5G still has a little bit to go before it's full 5G
https://www.howtogeek.com/399560/5g-e-isnt-real-5g.-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
There's a link detailing it

The 5gE will show up on the S10+. I saw it show up on my 9+.

todd3835 said:
The 5gE will show up on the S10+. I saw it show up on my 9+.
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Probably only on US versions

Joe199799 said:
It's not true 5G, it's 5GE it's just a fancier albeit deceptive way of saying 4G LTE+ (if I'm wrong on the LTE+ part my bad I know it's still 4G though) real 5G still has a little bit to go before it's full 5G
https://www.howtogeek.com/399560/5g-e-isnt-real-5g.-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
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You're absolutely right. They're basically pulling the same Stunt they did when the started labeling HSPA+ as 4G when it was in fact more like 3.5G. Total sham. In order to be considered 5G you need to have a minimum speed of 1Gps. I get about 540Mps on LTE+ in Canada. I don't think AT&T can even come close to those speeds. And it's not even 5G.
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My wife has an Att S10+ and I have a G975F variant.
the status bar shose 5G - but speeds are just typical - however, I have noticed that it is faster than my phone/ I was outside the other day and my wifes phone got 120MB download and 75 MB upload - I did a speed test on my phone at the same spot and I only got 60MB down and 30MB up.
I think it might be because the G975F varient is missing one band that is on the ATT Variant. It isn't reallt 5G but it is a bit faster on ATT phones. I think becuase it is Enhanced LTE....hopefully some day we will be able to flash ATT CSC on the G975F phones....I
don't remember which band is missing from the G975F variant, but it does definately mean that devices that are from the F Varients are not as fast on LTE as the ATT PHOnes.
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mrnovanova said:
You're absolutely right. They're basically pulling the same Stunt they did when the started labeling HSPA+ as 4G when it was in fact more like 3.5G. Total sham. In order to be considered 5G you need to have a minimum speed of 1Gps. I get about 540Mps on LTE+ in Canada. I don't think AT&T can even come close to those speeds. And it's not even 5G.
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Yeaaaaaa I was right. But in all seriousness it's shady as hell business practice (but then again almost all the carriers in the US were guilty of it at some point)
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Geekser said:
My wife has an Att S10+ and I have a G975F variant.
the status bar shose 5G - but speeds are just typical - however, I have noticed that it is faster than my phone/ I was outside the other day and my wifes phone got 120MB download and 75 MB upload - I did a speed test on my phone at the same spot and I only got 60MB down and 30MB up.
I think it might be because the G975F varient is missing one band that is on the ATT Variant. It isn't reallt 5G but it is a bit faster on ATT phones. I think becuase it is Enhanced LTE....hopefully some day we will be able to flash ATT CSC on the G975F phones....I
don't remember which band is missing from the G975F variant, but it does definately mean that devices that are from the F Varients are not as fast on LTE as the ATT PHOnes.
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Don't take this the wrong way but your home screen looks like my LG lucid that ran gingerbread. It gives me original Droid vibes as well I dig it.

Joe199799 said:
Yeaaaaaa I was right. But in all seriousness it's shady as hell business practice (but then again almost all the carriers in the US were guilty of it at some point)
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Don't take this the wrong way but your home screen looks like my LG lucid that ran gingerbread. It gives me original Droid vibes as well I dig it.
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that is my wife's phone and home screen...it works for her.

AT&T should be held accountable by somebody for their scummy practices - or at least called out for it. It's ridiculous!

My phone got 7g's on att

Time to root and go custom. 6GYE$ for everyone!

Drunkula said:
AT&T should be held accountable by somebody for their scummy practices - or at least called out for it. It's ridiculous!
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Are you living under a rock? The other 3 major carriers called them out on it already, months ago. There's even an xda article from earlier today where Sprint and ATT settled a lawsuit about misleading customers about 5g "E".

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Are you living under a rock?
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No. I just haven't seen it. Have you seen everything, everywhere?

This 5G stuff is fluff anyways. I live in a rural area with barely any LTE coverage. Will most likely never see 5G here. I deploy IOT hardware (autonomous air quality/meterological arrays, for example) and they all use 2G GSM hardware. They just post data to an offshore server. Point is not all applications need low latency gigabit wireless. That's what my Xirrus wifi is for.
And where LTE service is good, I'm seeing nearly 200Mbps /50Mbps (down/up) speeds with latency averaging in the mid 20s to low 30s. That's good enough for me. Just remove the stupid wifi needed to get big updates and we're good. With unlimited plans these days it's ridiculous to have to tether off another LTE device to get larger updates.

Att recently updated to 4x4 bands and 5ge is their way of showing it instead of something like 4g+