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[Q] Getting the most out of Rooting the SM-N910V? Please contribute!

I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.

doctor-cool said:
I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.

Thanks , I got root last night
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?

doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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You can run anything you want, it's not going to hurt root. Root is really only a door, or access, to settings/system files that you wouldn't normally have. Any app that you can run without root can be run safely with root. The opposite is not true. There are a number of apps that cannot be run without root. A good way to find most of the apps that require root is to go to the Play Store and just search for "root apps". There's a bunch out there that you may want to try.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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The only thing you have to be aware of to protect root is taking an OTA update. Now that you have a custom recovery and root the likely hood that you would be able to find and download an OTA is not likely, but if by chance you receive a notice that an OTA is available do not download and install it. If by chance the phone automatically downloads it and tries to install it, the OTA should fail so you'll be alright.
Be careful not to flash or ODIN a retail firmware. That is probably the biggest warning I can offer. Retail firmware, when flashed, will lock your bootloader. You can flash a modem or a kernel or a recovery, but not the entire firmware .tar md5 file.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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By the way. Since you are new to root and custom recoveries, the first thing you should do, right now, is do a backup. Power off your phone, go into TWRP recovery (hold down the volume up, home and power buttom all at the same time). Continue to hold them down until you see the TWRP splash screen, then you can let them go. From the on screen menu select backup. Choose which file you want backed up. I recommend you do boot, system, data, modem, EFS and recovery as a minimum. After the backup is complete return to the main menu and select reboot. Do it right now

wifi hotspot
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?

doctor-cool said:
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.

jpcalhoun said:
I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it

doctor-cool said:
Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.

Automatic Back Up?
jpcalhoun said:
Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up

doctor-cool said:
We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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It's diffidently a good idea to have a recent backup and the original backup of your stock ROM. The only problem with a lot of backups is keeping straight what backup is what and the amount of space they consume. Memory is cheap I know, but backups can eat up storage real fast, LOL.

Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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No there is not a stock md5 for the DE and there most likely will not be. In the past Samsung has never released a firmware package for their DE phones, not that I have ever seen anyway. What your phone came with is what you got. NO OTAs and no updates of any kind in the future...that's if Samsung behaves like they have in the past. That's why making a good back up of your stock (no root) when you first get recovery is so important. And, making a backup after root of course.

Do you mind me asking how you sync..............
GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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your TWRP folder to your Dropbox account.. Did you transfer the folder to your computer first or can you sync the folder on your phone to DropBox directly ?

I use dropsync select the folder and it just does it automatically.
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jpcalhoun said:
I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
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I'm assuming that the Greenify is the one with the leaf?
Is LagFix the purchase version? Is it an app by itself, or does it require exposed?
Do you use the SD Maid Pro Version?
Does the Adaway require exposed as well?
Thanks so much in advance.

Odd & problematic behaviour after 6.0 update Any ideas ?

First of all, I salute everybody that chips in to this comunity, active or less ! G'day, gents !
And now, to the problem(s) :
I have a stock 16g/2g D855 (Romania/Orange), no root, no tweaks, nothing, except an original battery change couple of months back.
My phone didn't take OTA updates, don't know why, but i've been updating it via PC Suite / Mobile Support Tool.
Last update was 5.0, all was fine.
Now, on the other hand, after the update to 6.0, a small hell broke loose.
First of all, until now, after the power on LG image, i had a small LG animation, now it has changed to some stupid Orange explosion crap + wallpaper. That doesn't bother me that much, but the fact that whatever wallpaper i choose, it changes it back to the Orange one right after restart...
Second, and third, and fourth & fifth ...
QuickCircle apps no longer work (even though they are activated and selected), so my "submarin"ish flip case is useless... Facedetection, no reaction... KnockCode, same thing, doesn't even lock the phone, no matter the security type. I can't even change my Display Off style anymore. Developer Options, gone, not available for this user (altough user is owner) and clicking hundreds of times on build no. doesn't do anything. Notification bar, no kind of available selection on it (like wifi or data, etc), except user & the notification button in the button bar doesn't even slide it down. Plus a couple more of these "small unfortunate events" :silly:
But the biggest problem is that when and if i turn on the wifi, the phone almost instantly restarts, and keeps doing so if i'm not fast on the touch and disable it (like split second after finshing boot) and thus becoming an unusable plastic...:crying:
So i've tried reinstalling the update, via Recovery Upgrade two times (all went smooth) but problems are still there. I'm starting to think that this might be a something wrong with the update. Eitherway, main concern is, what do i do now ? Wireless is 30% of my job...
Specifing that i'm pretty much a noobie at this kind of stuff, thank you all for taking the time to read about my problem !:highfive:

the software may be having some issues, i recommend that you download the kdz file for the software and flash it via flashtool, all problems should be fixed and the o2 bloat will be removed.
d855 kdz (30B):http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW4DCC3332TXAZRAB5452PI/D85530B_00_1217.kdz
lg flashtool:http://lgflashtool.com/download/LG-Flash-Tool-2014.zip

ModekXKay said:
the software may be having some issues, i recommend that you download the kdz file for the software and flash it via flashtool, all problems should be fixed and the o2 bloat will be removed.
d855 kdz (30B): csmgdl.lgmobile. com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW4DCC3332TXAZRAB5452PI/D85530B_00_1217.kdz
lg flashtool: lgflashtool. com/download/LG-Flash-Tool-2014.zip
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Thank you for your reply
But doesn't this require root ?
And most of all, won't i lose everything ? Settings, accounts, contacts, data ? Or is there anyway to backup everything ?

andy_krt said:
Thank you for your reply
But doesn't this require root ?
And most of all, won't i lose everything ? Settings, accounts, contacts, data ? Or is there anyway to backup everything ?
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It doesn't require root.
But it would certainly wipe everything including your internal sd. The only way is to take a backup using any app and moving the backup files temporarily to a pc or any other external storage.
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA-Developers mobile app

Sreerag ag said:
It doesn't require root.
But it would certainly wipe everything including your internal sd. The only way is to take a backup using any app and moving the backup files temporarily to a pc or any other external storage.
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Thank you for replying
Ok, seems logical. Any advice about some software that cand do that properly ?
I mean all & all. Accounts, passwords, contacts and so on...because I can't remember my Google account pass (or any other one for that matter) for the life of me, and the maps to the nav app are a pain to dld.
And besides that, can the backup be actually performed, since i can't access the Developer Debug Mode ?

andy_krt said:
Thank you for replying
Ok, seems logical. Any advice about some software that cand do that properly ?
I mean all & all. Accounts, passwords, contacts and so on...because I can't remember my Google account pass (or any other one for that matter) for the life of me, and the maps to the nav app are a pain to dld.
And besides that, can the backup be actually performed, since i can't access the Developer Debug Mode ?
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There are many apps on the play store for taking backups. You can use the to take backups of apps, contacts, messages and so on.
However to backup accounts, passwords and app data you require a rooted device and could use titanium backup.
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Sreerag ag said:
There are many apps on the play store for taking backups. You can use the to take backups of apps, contacts, messages and so on.
However to backup accounts, passwords and app data you require a rooted device and could use titanium backup.
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Well then that's out of the question... Having no data plan, any Play Store installation is ruled out, could probably be done via PC Suite.
I've tried using Helium, doesn't do much good. I'm thinking about rooting the phone, but with my luck, i'll probably brick it.
I wonder if there's anyway to find my Google account pass...
L.E. according to devtester, LGD855 MyIMEI A6RRTN D85530C_00 (D85530C_00_0211) is the latest version for it, pretty much the same as my last update. So ,do i re.dld this one and flash it or i go with the D85530B_00_1217 from the Quick Download page ?
L.E.2 : So far i've tried both kdz files mentioned above, plus D85521C_00_1204.kdz (Lollipop). All unsuccesful. In Download Mode, using Flash Tool as is, selecting Normal than Start. The Marshmallows kdz show the exact same problems and Lollipop doesn't even want to install. It goes up tu 4% on Pc (0 on phone) and Retry appears until Exit.
Aw man, the truth MUST be out there...

Try thos link to fix the lg flash tool stuck at 4%
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-t...it-stops-at-4-while-flash-kdz-firmware-80205/
Dont sweat it too much, ive been in your situation before. It sucks but the community is always by your side to fix it!

ModekXKay said:
Try thos link to fix the lg flash tool stuck at 4%
www. theandroidsoul.com/how-to-fix-lg-flashtool-problem-when-it-stops-at-4-while-flash-kdz-firmware-80205
Dont sweat it too much, ive been in your situation before. It sucks but the community is always by your side to fix it!
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Thanks for the link, but i managed to somehow solve the problem :good:

ok, so it took some time, but finally figured this bugger out.
For anyone that needs assistance in the future, let me know and i'll support you as much as i can.
It took me 2 crazy noobie a** days, and almost lost everything, but somehow i managed not to.
So, from the start, let me just say that Remember Password on FF was heaven for me.
Mainly, for not losing everything, you definetly NEED to know your Google account. For me it was setup before to back everything up, but somehow, i forgot the pass This is where i used my PC and logged in to G+ (again, thank God for pass remembering) and reset the pass by sms. Spot on !:victory:
Then connect your phone via usb and within PC Suite (Lg Bridge didn't work for me btw) drag & drop everything from Phone to PC. Apps, contacts, messages, all.
Next, the only sofware that actually worked in flashing my G3 was LGUP. Had some problems with it by not recognising my phone, but i found a version that worked.
Once that done, i removed the Sd Card, entered Download mode and tried flashing D85530B_00_1217.kdz (MM) by selecting Upgrade. That din't work. Same problems. Tried it again, but this time selecting Refurbish (wich wipes out everything) and voila ! Alive & kickin' !
Then it's just a matter of patience resetting your phone back. Enter the Google account with your freshly changed pass and the phone will basically ask you to restore itself back.
This was a long story short, but if anyone needs more detailed aspects, let me know.
The only thing i didn't figure out yet is why the Orange bloated kdz had Slow Mo option for camera and this standard one doesn't.
Thanks to everybody for their support and the community for hosting us !
Cheers:highfive:

Nexus 5x is slow now, root without data loss?

hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks

haxxo said:
hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks
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If your bootloader is not unlocked then absolutely. Unlocking it will wipe the device.
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Yes - unlocking bootloader will wipe everything, so make sure photos/videos/music/sms/mms is backed up in cloud or on PC.
Since you're gonna lose everything anyway, why not try factory reset (but backup the things I mention above first Then see how your phone acts when adding back the 3rd party apps.
Have you taken all OTA's? 8.1 is out for Nexus 5X.
I'm on it now and not rooted. Have rooted up to now, but so far I am impressed with stock non-rooted performance.

haxxo said:
hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks
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If you can live without root I think you should try first the wiping/factory reset. Performance is pretty good with 8.1 stock for me.One restart everyday is recommended also.

the 8.1 OTA update worked great for 24 hours, and after that it became incredibly slow again. for some crazy ass reason, every single app is running all the time, even if i limit background process and even disable apps with background check. when there is a heavy computing load, random apps that are rarely ever used start crashing (not responding error). and since you cant stop apps from running anymore without root, i think a root is required or a new phone as its unusable 75% of the time.
if i use google backup, and backup my sms through a 3rd app, will i be able to restore everything on my phone after root? if not, what will go missing so i can back it up separately.
if google backup includes all apps/app data, contacts, pictures/videos and call history, and i backed up my sms with a 3rd party app. seems like everything should get restored after root.

I was watching catlog *:W and *:E and saw that OOM killer was failing and a bunch of errors, even with the Jan 5 2018 / 8.1.0 r7 update. The phone is ridiculously slow at starting chrome, loading webpages, downloading attachments from email, updating apps from the play store.
I deleted the dalvik-cache and cache and started every app manually and rebooted a bunch of times, but the phone seems to degrade into this pathetically slow mode. It seems as if the flash is 10-100x slower than it should be.

mickrussom said:
[...]It seems as if the flash is 10-100x slower than it should be.
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This is what I'm too afraid off. Maybe Google has done something to slow the device down like Apple did recently?

How are you guys seeing 8.1 already? I'm on T-Mobile. TIA.

7carisfast said:
How are you guys seeing 8.1 already? I'm on T-Mobile. TIA.
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Updates arrive at different intervals for Nexus devices. If you do not want to wait, adb sideload the full OTA image:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Titanium Backup TiBu and Android 10

Recently updated to Android 10 Q
I have had zero luck in getting Titanium Backup to work properly. Even when trying to restore data, it causes the app the crash resulting in me needing to uninstall and reinstall (not even wiping data helps).
Any steps I need to follow?
I have root with Magisk 19.4 (patched boot img), latest Q update (.c).
I'd really love to get this working as otherwise I'll have lost all SMS data. I backed up before wiping my phone, but the Google backup wasn't available for me to restore from...even my plan B is failing X^D

MeetFace said:
Recently updated to Android 10 Q
I have had zero luck in getting Titanium Backup to work properly. Even when trying to restore data, it causes the app the crash resulting in me needing to uninstall and reinstall (not even wiping data helps).
Any steps I need to follow?
I have root with Magisk 19.4 (patched boot img), latest Q update (.c).
I'd really love to get this working as otherwise I'll have lost all SMS data. I backed up before wiping my phone, but the Google backup wasn't available for me to restore from...even my plan B is failing X^D
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I got around to doing a full flash yesterday (even full flashed both slots) with the .c factory image. Also got the canary MM and canary Magisk updates early this morning. TiBa is working fine for me. Just a shot in the dark, but are you running EdXposed or any other modules/modifications (Substratum themes) that could be causing issues? The only modules I have loaded are MagiskHide Props Config, Active Edge System Mod and systemless hosts. My BusyBox is Stericson and not the module.

sliding_billy said:
I got around to doing a full flash yesterday (even full flashed both slots) with the .c factory image. Also got the canary MM and canary Magisk updates early this morning. TiBa is working fine for me. Just a shot in the dark, but are you running EdXposed or any other modules/modifications (Substratum themes) that could be causing issues? The only modules I have loaded are MagiskHide Props Config, Active Edge System Mod and systemless hosts. My BusyBox is Stericson and not the module.
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No other modules or mods installed, not even a custom kernel at that point., but I found that part of my problem is that TiBu corrupted my messages backup. It took the better part of an hour to back up, but the backup file is only about 350 KB...I'm crestfallen, lol. Never had an issue like that with TiBu, been using it for years. Didn't even think to check that the backup was saved properly.
Lol, I woke up this morning and flashed back to Android Pie so I could restore my messages in TiBU, and then back them up some other way and then roll forward to 10...only to discover this. Talk about salt in the wound.

MeetFace said:
No other modules or mods installed, not even a custom kernel at that point., but I found that part of my problem is that TiBu corrupted my messages backup. It took the better part of an hour to back up, but the backup file is only about 350 KB...I'm crestfallen, lol. Never had an issue like that with TiBu, been using it for years. Didn't even think to check that the backup was saved properly.
Lol, I woke up this morning and flashed back to Android Pie so I could restore my messages in TiBU, and then back them up some other way and then roll forward to 10...only to discover this. Talk about salt in the wound.
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Glad it worked out. I don't use TiBa for messages. I use SMS backup and Restore. I absolutely love that app.

sliding_billy said:
Glad it worked out. I don't use TiBa for messages. I use SMS backup and Restore. I absolutely love that app.
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+1 for SMS backup and Restore. Although I use TiBu, I never restore anything but user apps with it.

Tried updating to Canary Magisk, still no love.
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MeetFace said:
Recently updated to Android 10 Q
I have had zero luck in getting Titanium Backup to work properly. Even when trying to restore data, it causes the app the crash resulting in me needing to uninstall and reinstall (not even wiping data helps).
Any steps I need to follow?
I have root with Magisk 19.4 (patched boot img), latest Q update (.c).
I'd really love to get this working as otherwise I'll have lost all SMS data. I backed up before wiping my phone, but the Google backup wasn't available for me to restore from...even my plan B is failing X^D
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There is an add-on for Titanium on apk mirror. Install it and TB will work.

I have the exact same issue as OP. I'm trying to restore my SMS messages on 10 with TiBu. I'm on 10, rooted, with Magisk 19.4. Every time I go to restore my SMS data, TiBu just hangs and I have to force close it.
Any other ideas on how I could restore these messages?
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madscribblerz said:
There is an add-on for Titanium on apk mirror. Install it and TB will work.
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It's already installed. TiBu installed it automatically
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C5Longhorn said:
I have the exact same issue as OP. I'm trying to restore my SMS messages on 10 with TiBu. I'm on 10, rooted, with Magisk 19.4. Every time I go to restore my SMS data, TiBu just hangs and I have to force close it.
Any other ideas on how I could restore these messages?
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If you have a large message archive, it can take 30-45 minutes to restore. Maybe it's working
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MeetFace said:
If you have a large message archive, it can take 30-45 minutes to restore. Maybe it's working
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It turned out that I needed to make TiBu the default SMS app for the restore. Once I did that it worked right away.

C5Longhorn said:
It turned out that I needed to make TiBu the default SMS app for the restore. Once I did that it worked right away.
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Didn't TiBu prompt you to do that?

Not that I'm aware. It may have a couple of weeks ago, but not this latest time.
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The solution to this is to disable "Verify apps over USB" in developer settings.

Solution to backing up SNS taking so long?
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SMS backup fail on Q
Techvir said:
The solution to this is to disable "Verify apps over USB" in developer settings.
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Backup sms/mms fails with most recent AOSP 10 (Pixel 3a). Manually changing default messaging app (no notification popup) doesn't work either. I guess TB isn't supported after Pie.

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Backup sms/mms fails with most recent AOSP 10 (Pixel 3a). Manually changing default messaging app (no notification popup) doesn't work either. I guess TB isn't supported after Pie.
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I heard that. Anyone who's been around this scene a while knows at one time it was great and a must for all users.
You can send logs in to TBU bug tracker web page. I'm sure they have a lot of people sending logs and writing them and it's probably hard to keep up but I sent some logs not long ago.. I never saw anything updated or anything because of my logs but...? I sent the maximum amount you can at a time and then filled out another report and sent more. Who knows...
I've been using Migrate NG from here on xda to backup my user apps and data from user apps. Works great! Check it out! Also from what I've read Swift app is supposedly the new good backup app that works but if you don't have pro you can only backup one app at a time and same on restore. Not sure why they don't do like a three day trial to let us try if out in pro version before we buy it...But from what I've seen they do not. Definitely check out Migrate app, anyone who hasn't. Works well on my OnePlus6t and the xda thread is active so if for some reason it doesn't work on your device there is help to get it to work.

flash713 said:
I heard that. Anyone who's been around this scene a while knows at one time it was great and a must for all users.
You can send logs in to TBU bug tracker web page. I'm sure they have a lot of people sending logs and writing them and it's probably hard to keep up but I sent some logs not long ago.. I never saw anything updated or anything because of my logs but...? I sent the maximum amount you can at a time and then filled out another report and sent more. Who knows...
I've been using Migrate NG from here on xda to backup my user apps and data from user apps. Works great! Check it out! Also from what I've read Swift app is supposedly the new good backup app that works but if you don't have pro you can only backup one app at a time and same on restore. Not sure why they don't do like a three day trial to let us try if out in pro version before we buy it...But from what I've seen they do not. Definitely check out Migrate app, anyone who hasn't. Works well on my OnePlus6t and the xda thread is active so if for some reason it doesn't work on your device there is help to get it to work.
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I'm just going back to Pie and run it until the wheels fall off (like Kitkat). I don't like a lot of things with Q and breaks too many fundamental legacy apps and features imo. I can't really blame the old school developers for not supporting every autistic brain fart google comes up with.

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I'm just going back to Pie and run it until the wheels fall off (like Kitkat). I don't like a lot of things with Q and breaks too many fundamental legacy apps and features imo. I can't really blame the old school developers for not supporting every autistic brain fart google comes up with.
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I loved pie!! There are some awesome substratum themes too that lost support after pie... I hear you man. Many roms imo seemed to be better on android 9 than now. I used to like when android evolved and up graded to next version and now I don't because of exactly what you're saying here. You look at a nexus device back on say 7.12 and then now... Sure battery is better optimized nowadays but in my opinion those were the best times for android. More roms, themes, sound mods that were made universal (arise audio).. Android 7-9 was killer! I just know how much of a security risk it is using things that are that outdated... Especially nowadays! There is probably a way to patch an older version depending on how old it is.. I mean I see roms being made still for nexus 5x that are android 10 based now.. Good luck!

Question Good backup options?

Hello everyone!
I pre-ordered my Pixel 6 Pro and received it a couple of weeks ago. I did not immediately unlock the bootloader as I didn't see the need (as I would need to wipe anyway once I install a Google-spyware-free ROM.) However, since development is proceeding smoothly enough (thanks to everyone who's working hard on that!) I'm starting to look at options of how to back up my data in case of a future wipe.
In the golden days of Android development, I used to use Titanium (with root), which also worked without root, really. What do people use nowadays (beyond Google) to back up their Android phones?
Thanks a lot in advance!

SwiftBackup

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SwiftBackup
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There really is no other answer than this one. Migrate is fantastic too - but Swift backup is objectively better. It really is just click/press button and forget, in ease of use.
Some apps don't properly back up each respective app properly, which is why I still use tibu for some things. But I find myself using tibu less and less.

ROOT:
Code:
echo "Demonstrates fzf for interactive selection of multiple packages"
for APP in $(pm list packages | fzf -m)
do
APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done
ADB:
Code:
for APP in $(adb shell pm list packages | grep -E 'accubattery|betterbatterystats|etc|etc|etc')
do
APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done

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SwiftBackup
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From what I've read, and for what most backup apps are capable of, if you wanna backup app data you have to be rooted.
If you're stock then some developers can limit adb backup from even taking place, so I'm finding options are limited the longer you go without rooting right away.

I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro ? ? ? ) ( ouch, last updated on: November 24th, 2019)

I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.

old_fart said:
I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro )
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Yeah, but Swift is objectively better as a general backup tool than TiBu these days

yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good

Just checked Swift Backup and even without root it does seem like a valid option. My only concern is that requires a Google login to use? I imagine that, unlike Google's actual Android backup, this would work even without gapps installed (potentially), but just wondering if anyone could confirm that?

From other devices I used to use TWRP backup by just hooking each and every partition and copying the backup file to the PC afterwards. If anything went wrong I simply restored the TWRP backup. Is there a way to do this kind of backup manually from the PC?

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I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.
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Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.

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Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.
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I'd like to root, but would have to sift through all of the new info that's been provided. It'll take some time going from beginning to end, but never do I worry about backups because I'm in control of my data.
When I transitioned over from my old pixel 2xl to the 6 with the data transfer, none of my apps retained data or login info. It's kinda pointless for the transfer to have to redownload every single app and retain nothing except SMS. I don't understand why the process sucks as bad as it does. Why can't it just transfer everything from one device to another? I might as well just not even bother with it and should have rooted it then.

Nekromantik said:
yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good
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There's a good SMS/MMS backup app in the play store that I have used for many years if you'd ever like to try it. I understand you're using swift, but this app doesn't require root to work.

If you are rooted, OAndBackupX is a great tool... It's free and open-source, and a fully featured product. It has some limited capabilities without root, but if you want a full backup with app data, you'd need root.
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Neo Backup | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
The open-source tool to backup your apps and data
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For SMS, MMS & RCS backup, you can try SMS Backup & Restore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore). RCS support is still experimental, but SMS & MMS backup & restore works well.

Just a reminder: Because of the requirement to disable dm-verity and vbmeta verification when flashing a patched boot image, you will have to wipe data when doing so. If you have not yet unlocked your bootloader, this is a non issue, as you can disable AVB after unlocking the bootloader.