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I'd like to ask for some opinions on the subject. Buying a new phone but I can't decide which one is better. LG or Samsung?
I don't really care about the design, both look ok to me.
Screen size difference is minimal and also not very important.
Buttons on the back- Is it ok?
This will be half business half personal phone so it must work and must have good radio. How's the signal? Connection speeds? Camera and music playback are somewhat important. As well as roaming capabilities. I can see that G3 is missing some of the LTE bands that S5 has. Any other issues or thoughts?
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I'd like to ask for some opinions on the subject. Buying a new phone but I can't decide which one is better. LG or Samsung?
I don't really care about the design, both look ok to me.
Screen size difference is minimal and also not very important.
Buttons on the back- Is it ok?
This will be half business half personal phone so it must work and must have good radio. How's the signal? Connection speeds? Camera and music playback are somewhat important. As well as roaming capabilities. I can see that G3 is missing some of the LTE bands that S5 has. Any other issues or thoughts?
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If it's going to be half for work the get the s5 since it had better battery life
I would honestly wait till Sunday to see whats new with HTC and Samsung.
I love the g3 but honestly I miss that oled screen. Probably going to jump to the s6 if the exynos processor doesn't have to many app incompatibility.
I think they are both great phones... I have done a lot of comparisons with the G3 camera and the S5... In the exact same settings, the G3 camera hands down is better. The S5 can get to the same quality pictures, but only with a lot of manipulation. My sister had the S5, so we were duplicating pictures one day and night. So if Camera is something that matters, you might want to take that into consideration.
s6 did not come out yet, and honestly I don't see any point in paying a couple of hundred bucks more for it no matter what it is. OS will be just the same and hardware makes no difference at all. I won't notice any difference while reading email or looking at a map so one of these two is good enough.
My other phone is S4 and I've had it for almost 2 years and perfectly happy with it . I'll probably get at least another year out of it.
My wife had the S5 and misses her S4. I prefer the G3 over the S5 because it feels more responsive.
Just test them both in the store and go with what feels right.. They're both good as far as I can tell.
I've had both...
and I am using the G3 now. The S5 had significantly better bluetooth capability (particularly has the aptx profile for streaming - LG falls short in that capability). I'm on T-Mobile and it seems that the G3 has a much better radio/antenna. Also, the S5 fingerprint scanner was terrible and required multiple swipes sometimes to unlock. And Touchwiz seems to have more bloat (relative since LG has lots too). You'd have to root to get the full potential of either one and get rid of unwanted crapware. The killer for me is the significantly better LG camera w/laser focus - it blows the Samsung camera away in speed of focus.
And if you're going to root, there is much more development activity with a Samsung phone than with LG although there are some good ROM's here.
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I love the g3 but honestly I miss that oled screen. Probably going to jump to the s6 if the exynos processor doesn't have to many app incompatibility.
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I'm on the same boat as you.. lol.. I wish the g3 was a bit more bright. next to Amoled, it looks like im running 50% brightness.
Having previously owned the G2 and G3, I was looking forward to the G4, however personally the camera is the only reason why I stick with it. Everything else seems like a downgrade from the G3, especially in the looks and feel. I'm glad we have root and Xposed which helps greatly, but going from the G2 to the G3 showed a large decline in dev support, and seeing as how it's been several months since release and we still have no custom ROMs makes it seem like there is going to be very little dev support going forward, even if we eventually get custom ROMs.
I don't remember wanting a new phone so quickly the last 2 years, but I've been anxiously awaiting the new phones this fall to see if there is something else that I'd like more. I'm leaning towards either the Moto X Pure or new Nexus.
Is anyone else disappointed enough in either the phone or dev support that they are looking to replace their G4 earlier than usual?
For most people the G4 is one heck of a phone, but for those of us who hang out here, no development = no fun.
I do like the G4 for the most part. It has it's issues though. Particularly the Verizon one more so from all I've read.
I mainly am bothered by the touchscreen issues. So many missed taps or swipes registering as taps instead and opening things I meant to just swipe across or whatever. Little bit of lag but it's workable.
Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless. The only thing that really stopped me from buying the S6 edge was the piddly battery and it not being changeable. Now that the S6 edge + is out and they've beefed up the battery, in hindsight if it was released at the same time I would have bought that instead because I did like the S4 for it's time.
That's the tech world for you though, you buy something new that's the best that day and something (arguably) better comes out right around the corner.
Every point I was going to make has been covered.
The Samsung development overshadows LG development, 2 to 1.
Definitely will be a consideration on the next purchase.
Take note LG, we wont be fooled again.
I was going to sell my G4 now, but not really excited about anything out there. Probably waiting for the new Motorola X Pure. Checked selling prices on swappa and I will already lose $100 or more if I sell now. Maybe I shouldn't wait..
I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!
If I wasn't trying to save money, I would consider the MXP. That said, even though there isn't a thriving development community for it, the G4 works pretty well for my needs since root and Xposed are available for it and haven't been giving me any issues.
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I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!
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I remember reading that the Note 5 and I assume S6 Edge + are not able to be unlocked/rooted on Verizon and AT&T, as Samsung has incorporated that into Knox that the phones will no longer work if modified (or something along those lines).
I miss the days when pretty much all phones, especially flagships, had tons of dev support and were rooted quickly. Seems like as time goes on pretty much only Nexus and unlocked global phones get any support.
Bailed for Nexus 6...couldn't take not having roms....... my wife is happy with it.
Made the exact same decision. I don't miss that phone at all. Nexus 6 may be older but it still is a kick a** phone
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I may regret this decision, but I decided to preorder the iPhone 6s lol
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So far love the G4, but it's only been a week, not noticing any issues thus far. Coming from a bad experience with a Sony Z3V and Verizon, who finally agreed to give me a new phone and I picked the G4. My biggest concern was the battery but I'm getting 2 days with moderate use.
Yes, for now.
In general the phone is pretty good I'm just disappointed that there is no unlocked boot-loader and custom recovery as yet for the VS986. I hope it becomes available in the near future.
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Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.
Pretty unhappy with my G4, even after rooting and trying several fixes for existing issues. The battery life is poor at best, the touch screen misses and issues are awful and on top of that, general lag persists throughout the day. Overall, I WANT to like the phone. I like the camera, the shape, etc. I really think we need the bootloader unlocked to have users fix these issues that LG and VZW cannot. I'm stuck on the edge plan, so I guess I'm waiting.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.
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Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
But, coming from the S4 back in June my contract happened to be up for upgrade on the exact release date of the G4, I would have been totally content to stick with the Galaxy line had they not gotten away from the removable battery and SD card support in the S6, and the battery that is in the S6 really is pretty tiny. That was the deciding factor for me buying the G4 much like you're concerned with. Other than those things the S6/S6 edge would have been perfect to me. I decided to try something new and went with the G4 on the basis they had the removable battery and SD card slot (and the changeable backs as a bonus).
Naturally with there being two years between my S4 and the G4, the G4 is faster and smoother, has a better display, better camera. That's just advancements in technology at work. Down the line we'll look at the same specs as today's flagship phones as minor leagues.
Read around here and just about any phone forums, you'll see the same things echoed to varying degrees:
S6: Piddly battery life, no SD card, no removable battery, great looking screen, fast, arguably best camera, great build with the glass/metal, quick charge/wireless charge built in
G4: Bigger swappable battery, great (larger) screen, fast but some models lag depending on carrier, arguably best camera, nice changeable backs, wireless charge not built in, some models with touch screen response issues
Like I said you'll read the same things everywhere and just have to decide what works best for you. If you're the type that prefers to swap the battery for a quick boost to 100%, don't buy the S6 obviously. If you like the idea of using wireless charging, don't buy the G4 obviously. If you prefer a smaller screen go with the S6, if you want big go G4 (Or the newer Note 5 or S6 edge + of course), if you want to try a new button scheme go G4 (I do like the rear buttons) or if you like traditional side buttons go Samsung. It's a tough call really, you get what I mean, either way it's been years since the S4 so no matter what you're going to get a better phone due to the advancements both companies have made. Compared to the S4 both the S6 and G4 will fly through processing, have better displays, have better cameras, and be more efficient. You just have to decide which features are more important to you.
Now, I know you didn't mention the newer S6 edge + or Note 5 but they've been released since the G4 was released and in hindsight if they'd been released all at the same time I'd have chosen one of them over the G4 and am probably switching over to one of them soon as I can. As I said earlier the only reason I went with the G4 over the original S6 was the tiny battery in the S6, and in the newer two phones Samsung has beefed up that department to match the G4 at 3000mah. So that said, I'm probably looking to get back into a Samsung, because when it was in it's prime, I really did love my S4.
My main gripe with the G4 is the touch screen response, which like I said if you read around you will see it is pretty common and no known fix has been brought to light. It seems pretty hit or miss but it is really frustrating.
Hopefully I helped and answered some of your questions. If not feel free to let me know.
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Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
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Cwey I very much appreciate your detailed and very helpful reply. After reading it this morning I decided to get the S6. I picked one up a 64gb version a couple of hours ago and my wife got a iPhone 6S (she loves apples ). I figure with 64gb's SD card memory expansion is no big deal. I had to give up my unlimited data because I'm doing the 24 month no-contract phone payment service. I really don't use a lot of data anyway. I was on the old service plan paying for minutes and text. I'm actually paying about $10 a month less with unlimited calls and text. I looked into other phones also like the soon to be relesed Nexus 5X but the specs don't seem to be that great. The S6 Edge+ and Note 5 are too big for my taste. The larger size of the G4 is also a negative for me. Also I have the S6 with the OE2 firmware which can be rooted. The updated OF1 cannot be rooted at this time. I just have to be careful not to allow the firmware update to go through. Thanks again.
I got a Nexus 6 as well. Great phone even though it is old now. Also got a One M9 and sent it off to Java Card S-Off'ed. Also a good phone with custom roms. I miss the G4 camera a bit but nothing else.
I'll be looking at the Nexus 5X or the Moto X Pure as a replacement for the G4
I'm not sure how long i will keep it, because the digital products update so fast!
I wish the g5 had better battery life than the g4.... But it isn't looking like it so far.
Maybe there'll be an extended battery friend.
Still hoping for a bigger 5.5 model like the 2 paired galaxy's and iPhones
well ,right now i'm not looking to upgrade from G4 . Is still an amazing phone ,so far i had no issues and i hope it wont be (due to bootloops problem) ,currently with S/N 602.
I don't see any benefits to upgrade to g5 or s7/s7 edge. I still don't see the point on doing that ,if we are talking in terms of perfomance /camera /etc. I will be waiting Lg G6 ,maybe next year i will upgrade not sure yet .
I'll be tuning in on HTC tomorrow, as that is the most likely candidate for my upgrade. I'm out of the LG game. The G4 was a mess and I'm not fond of the G5.
I'd also like to check out a Huawei Mate 8 but that is a little hard to come by here.
In my case.... I haven't had any issues at all
mine is a h815 sn506
Would gladly keep it if I could be sure that it wouldn't boot loop
V10 is almost the price of a new s7 here otherwise I would have bought one.
The s7 edge is impressive but I really though the screen curve is gimmicky and makes the phone unnecessarily fragile.
Would get a mate 8 if it was easy to get my hands on one
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I wish the g5 had better battery life than the g4.... But it isn't looking like it so far.
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Surprisingly it does thanks to 6.0.1
when we get it then the extra battery on the G4 will surpass it.
Still hoping for a bigger 5.5 model like the 2 paired galaxy's and iPhones
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heard something about a mini.
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In my case.... I haven't had any issues at all
mine is a h815 sn506
Would gladly keep it if I could be sure that it wouldn't boot loop
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If it does there is warranty but am suprised you have doubts as your poll thread pretty much ended them for me
V10 is almost the price of a new s7 here otherwise I would have bought one
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v11 ?
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Surprisingly it does thanks to 6.0.1
when we get it then the extra battery on the G4 will surpass it.
heard something about a mini.
If it does there is warranty but am suprised you have doubts as your poll thread pretty much ended them for me
v11 ?
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Thanks for the sentiment
I have a euro model (815) but actually from .... There is no officially licensed lg reseller or service center here.
So if I have any issues my g4 will end up being a brick most likely.
I actually depend on it for work.
I like this phone as it's like the traditional androids with the removable battery and SD.
I've also taken around 2400 photos with the main camera in that time..... As I think the product so good that my mirrorless camera stays at home most times now.
I also think that sealed batteries make devices "disposable" forcing you to inevitably upgrade and also continuing to growing e-rubbish. It's really sad to me that most consumers accept that sealed batteries are more the norm than the exception now.
No LG here in Trinidad officially but there are official Apple, and Samsung stores.
I wish the Android would just make the same phone all regions so we wouldn't have this problem with matching parts and regional warranties. I honestly don't understand why there are so many different model numbers of just the g4 alone
I've gone to the GS7. I did enjoy the G4 but the S7 feels like a massive step forward.
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I've gone to the GS7. I did enjoy the G4 but the S7 feels like a massive step forward.
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I wish you a device without lag ,cause i know if you buy samsung after 3-4 months of use cause of touchwiz you get lag on phone and a factory reset doesn't help at all . Anyway ,post some pictures taken with s7 i'm curious . Danke
Haven't taken many photos just yet but from what I have taken I wouldn't say they look hugely better than the G4. The amoled screen makes them look better on the device but on a computer it's much of a muchness. The speaker is pretty pointless on the S7 too but that's the price you pay for IP68. Day-to-day performance and amoled alone are worth the upgrade to me. I do miss the clip tray though.
I used to be in the same boat about Touchwiz but it's come a long way since the awful days of the Captivate or even the SII
Reviews show G4 and G5 camera outperform S7
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Reviews show G4 and G5 camera outperform S7
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Which review are you speaking of specifically?
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Which review are you speaking of specifically?
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Reviews show G4 and G5 camera outperform S7
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Samsung has issued a new update that improves things a little. What firmware did this reviewer use ?
What resolution was S7 using ? 12MP or 9MP. If you want to do 16:9 then s7 is at a disadvantage. I don't know why they changed the aspect (!) The S6 was 16MP for same aspect as the G5.
The G5 has improved on details so it does not surprise me much. But i prefer to see image data than collages.
There are two advantages that will be useful to S7 users. As a convenience. Slowest shutter is 1/4 whereas on the G4 it is 1/9 with night shot.
And using a faster shutter speed with flash means you can freeze people better. Both with point & click.
To do this on the G4/G5 or even S6/Note 5 will require manual settings. Very possible just extra steps.
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Thanks for the sentiment
I have a euro model (815) but actually from .... There is no officially licensed lg reseller or service center here.
So if I have any issues my g4 will end up being a brick most likely.
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What is better you ask in the title ? i don't know the answer to that question other than to speculate v11. v10 was too big for me so picked the G4.
Keep your data backed up, if it happens so you won't lose much.
It takes a lot of courage to buy a phone like this when others are more available.
In India LG uses a franchise model. I had to call up several shops on their website just to find a seller that had a demo device. It took a trip into the suburbs to finally find it. Suprisingly not available in a number of big box stores unlike samsung or apple.
LG did not spend much on publicity of the G4 compared to G3. For one month when G3 came out i got LG ads on YT and was so sick of it.
I actually depend on it for work.
I like this phone as it's like the traditional androids with the removable battery and SD.
I've also taken around 2400 photos with the main camera in that time..... As I think the product so good that my mirrorless camera stays at home most times now.
I also think that sealed batteries make devices "disposable" forcing you to inevitably upgrade and also continuing to growing e-rubbish. It's really sad to me that most consumers accept that sealed batteries are more the norm than the exception now.
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Fully agree with everything you said there.
In fact there is a growing trend to show that a bigger sealed battery can be as good as two replaceable batteries. S7e for instance. To make replaceable batteries obsolete. If one increases the size of the replaceble battery then there is no chance.
Sealed battery has a way to go on android. Look at the ifixit repairability table.
The G4/G5 score 8.
What does the iphone with its sealed battery get ? 7
What does the S6/S7 get ? 3 (!)
htc one ? 2 (!)
Not only are these harder to repair they are also more expensive to replace the battery so you have to lose them in two years.
It does not stop there amoled is shorter lived than LCD. Loses brightness over time. Not so with LCD.
No LG here in Trinidad officially but there are official Apple, and Samsung stores.
I wish the Android would just make the same phone all regions so we wouldn't have this problem with matching parts and regional warranties. I honestly don't understand why there are so many different model numbers of just the g4 alone
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Google does it with nexus already. You would think its easier this way. One phone for the whole world.
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Yeah, I'm going to need to see EXIF for that. Otherwise I call BS. I can take a few pics with my D750 and (crudely) label it "S7" and suddenly "reviews" will show the S7 as being the best camera on a phone ever. I have a G4, and under NO circumstance 100% crop looks like that (which I am assuming that is 100% crop).
Please stop the fud.
I quickly did my own "review" and I'd like you to guess which is the G4, and which is the S7e. Images attached. EDIT - Both are at high jpg quality auto mode.
Smartphone cameras these days are good, and not one is very clearly better than the other - and none of them will look pleasing at 100% crop. If you want better photo quality, invest in something not attached to a phone.:good:
Source is here and you can find a bigger discussion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4dmvku/comparison_shot_of_galaxy_s7_vs_lg_g4_both_in/
Both cameras are good, s7 shoots faster (2x faster), g4 is more clear at 100 zoom.
From what I've seen, nothing really worth the upgrade from g4. We still have Motorola and oneplus to look forward to but it will be very difficult to get those devices where I live so that isn't very exciting prospect. Having said that, I just grabbed the 6p with a substantial discount and I'd consider that an upgrade. If u love xda and everything root, nothing beats a nexus and the 6p is hand down the best nexus ever made
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Source is here and you can find a bigger discussion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4dmvku/comparison_shot_of_galaxy_s7_vs_lg_g4_both_in/
Both cameras are good, s7 shoots faster (2x faster), g4 is more clear at 100 zoom.
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This is still fanboy fud. You first claim a 'review' and then link to reddit? Attached are images shot using the G4 and S7e in manual mode @ ISO 50 1/6th shutter auto WB jpeg fine. The S7e isn't even close to looking as bad as this nonsense from reddit. In fact, I can't even call either shot I just did with either camera better than the other. There's a limit on how good a picture will be with such a small sensor.
Not to mention that the G4 in auto mode will never shoot at those settings- I've already demonstrated that with my previous post shooting in auto mode with the samples I attached.
I like my G4's camera a lot. The G4 definitely does a better job of auto white balance, but at 100% (and greater) NO smartphone camera will preserve that amount of detail. That is DSLR territory - with good glass and a larger sensor.
I've wasted enough of my time on this...
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Don't let the quality of a camera sensor determine what your next phone is. Almost every new flagship phone these days (since the last gen anyway) is more than adequate. Go by what you want in features, root/roms, etc.
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This is still fanboy fud. You first claim a 'review' and then link to reddit? Attached are images shot using the G4 and S7e in manual mode @ ISO 50 1/6th shutter auto WB jpeg fine. The S7e isn't even close to looking as bad as this nonsense from reddit. In fact, I can't even call either shot I just did with either camera better than the other. There's a limit on how good a picture will be with such a small sensor.
Not to mention that the G4 in auto mode will never shoot at those settings- I've already demonstrated that with my previous post shooting in auto mode with the samples I attached.
I like my G4's camera a lot. The G4 definitely does a better job of auto white balance, but at 100% (and greater) NO smartphone camera will preserve that amount of detail. That is DSLR territory - with good glass and a larger sensor.
I've wasted enough of my time on this...
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Don't let the quality of a camera sensor determine what your next phone is. Almost every new flagship phone these days (since the last gen anyway) is more than adequate. Go by what you want in features, root/roms, etc.
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Denying the truth doesn't change the fact.
T-Mobile has really cracked down on our ability to root our phones. I'm not sure if I'll be willing to go with a TMO LG once again simply because they have made things very difficult for us.
Next time I will go with an unlocked phone but unfortunately a lot of the unlocked phones may or may not have all the bands that T-Mobile uses. The international unlocked version of the lgv30 allegedly have the capability of using 600 megahertz but to my knowledge no one has actually succeeded in testing that alleged ability out.
The new OnePlus phones do have the 600 megahertz ability which is nice but OnePlus phones in my opinion do not offer all the bells and whistles that a Samsung Galaxy S9 or an LG v30 plus has to offer.
LG has certainly disappointed me with their international version not by default having 600 megahertz. And T-Mobile has definitely disappointed me by controlling what a bought outright phone owner can do with their phone.
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T-Mobile has really cracked down on our ability to root our phones. I'm not sure if I'll be willing to go with a TMO LG once again simply because they have made things very difficult for us.
Next time I will go with an unlocked phone but unfortunately a lot of the unlocked phones may or may not have all the bands that T-Mobile uses. The international unlocked version of the lgv30 allegedly have the capability of using 600 megahertz but to my knowledge no one has actually succeeded in testing that alleged ability out.
The new OnePlus phones do have the 600 megahertz ability which is nice but OnePlus phones in my opinion do not offer all the bells and whistles that a Samsung Galaxy S9 or an LG v30 plus has to offer.
LG has certainly disappointed me with their international version not by default having 600 megahertz. And T-Mobile has definitely disappointed me by controlling what a bought outright phone owner can do with their phone.
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Well. My OnePlus 6 has all the bells and whistles I need like bottom mounted headphone jack, flat screen (not curved edges), unlocked bootloader with official TWRP, regular updates (treble support), equalizer for headphone jack (something that is a huge let down on my V30), very low amount of bloatware, stock android (mostly), notification toggle slider key, amazing battery life, immense performance, dual SIM option since I have 4 active SIM cards, 8gb RAM/128gb storage, insanely strong network connections via WiFi (490mbps) & LTE (125mbps at times) including a great connection in underground train stations, great GPS, Android 8.1 instead of buggy/laggy 8.0, and mostly everything else I use. I can't think of anything the V30 has that I need that the OnePlus 6 doesn't. Sure wireless charging, but I've used it once 7months ago for 9minutes. Dash charging is crazy fast!
It's just too bad that LG won't update the V30 & G6 with Treble support, I mean OnePlus just pushed treble support to older devices! LOL
Sucks I have to stop being an LG "fanboy" but I'm done buying carrier flagships now. But the v30 is still really good.
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Well. My OnePlus 6 has all the bells and whistles I need like bottom mounted headphone jack, flat screen (not curved edges), unlocked bootloader with official TWRP, regular updates (treble support), equalizer for headphone jack (something that is a huge let down on my V30), very low amount of bloatware, stock android (mostly), notification toggle slider key, amazing battery life, immense performance, dual SIM option since I have 4 active SIM cards, 8gb RAM/128gb storage, insanely strong network connections via WiFi (490mbps) & LTE (125mbps at times) including a great connection in underground train stations, great GPS, Android 8.1 instead of buggy/laggy 8.0, and mostly everything else I use. I can't think of anything the V30 has that I need that the OnePlus 6 doesn't. Sure wireless charging, but I've used it once 7months ago for 9minutes. Dash charging is crazy fast!
It's just too bad that LG won't update the V30 & G6 with Treble support, I mean OnePlus just pushed treble support to older devices! LOL
Sucks I have to stop being an LG "fanboy" but I'm done buying carrier flagships now. But the v30 is still really good.
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But no QHD display, no Qi wireless charging, no IP68 waterproofing.
I detest OnePlus almost as much as Apple because they won't give customers premium features. At least Apple finally gave users Qi wireless charging -- but OnePlus won't. Apple at least gives IP67.
I'm also not going to dump all my QuickCharge chargers for proprietary Dash chargers.
I also don't like that the often cheat at benchmarks tests.
I would buy Samsung before OnePlus, in that they have QHD display, Qi wireless charging, IP68, etc. They're a real premium phone, like LG.
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But no QHD display, no Qi wireless charging.
I detest OnePlus almost as much as Apple because they won't give customers premium features. At least Apple finally gave users Qi wireless charging -- but OnePlus won't.
I'm also not going to dump all my QuickCharge chargers for proprietary Dash chargers.
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Wireless charging has no use for me as I've used it for less than 10min of my entire life.
And larger than 1080p doesn't matter on a screen less than 62 inches.
All OEMs cheat on benchmark, they just push to max settings. No biggie.
My V30 charger chsrges my OP6 faster than it charges my V30. You don't NEED to use dash charger at all, people that say and think so are idiots and you shouldn't listen to them! Yes dash is faster in comparison but quick charge works just fine.
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Also like to agree that OnePlus isn't at the 'premium' level yet.
Returned my op6 to keep v30.
V30 screen is better and supports daydream
Size is better for me op6 is a hair to big.
Prefer no notch
Vibrate motor is the op6 is Mickey mouse
LTE radio is the same as sd845 in v30
I think the v30 camera is better and op6 has two cameras but no wide angle which makes no sense
Op is making strides but they're not there yet. When I returned the device I told them I'd pay $200 more for $200 more phone.
I'm thinking that in October pixel 3 will be the phone to beat. If not, I'll wait till 2019 with v30
Bacon612 were you able to listen to music thru wired earbuds on the op6? If so could you comment on the audio quality between the V30 and the op6 please?
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Bacon612 were you able to listen to music thru wired earbuds on the op6? If so could you comment on the audio quality between the V30 and the op6 please?
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I didn't get a chance to, no. I used it as a daily with root for about a week and a half. Received my v30 during that time (for $325) and it was a no brainier deciding which one to keep for me.
Bought a 6 which arrives tomorrow so I'll put it thru it's paces. I do like my V30 but I also love root and flashing ROMs and the fact that my T-Mobile V30 is still locked down with no solution for it in the near future is frustrating.
Thanks for taking the time to reply bud.
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Many good points raised here. I really like my v30 plus. Even tho it's stock, it's the best phone I've had thus far.
Time will tell what's next.
I'd like to sample an OP6 but they aren't found in local stores. It's almost a leap of faith if you don't know anyone that owns one, where you can actually experience it.
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Also like to agree that OnePlus isn't at the 'premium' level yet.
Returned my op6 to keep v30.
V30 screen is better and supports daydream
Size is better for me op6 is a hair to big.
Prefer no notch
Vibrate motor is the op6 is Mickey mouse
LTE radio is the same as sd845 in v30
I think the v30 camera is better and op6 has two cameras but no wide angle which makes no sense
Op is making strides but they're not there yet. When I returned the device I told them I'd pay $200 more for $200 more phone.
I'm thinking that in October pixel 3 will be the phone to beat. If not, I'll wait till 2019 with v30
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Agreed the vibration is way too intense on the OP6. I hate it, but lowered it with the kernel I use.
V30 has great camera. OP6 has a significantly better camera than the G7, but I've only spent about a week with the G7 so far.
I use my v30 for daydream also, since it came with the daydream viewer.
The, "notch" actually no longer bothers me since I don't form opinions based on the bandwagon internet haters of it. At this point I kinda like it. Before having the OP6 I was one of the idiotic masses who viewed it as a piece of the bezel overlapping the screen, when in reality it's the complete opposite. Theres actually 2 parts of the screen overlapping the bezel. Basically making the speaker, LED, & Camera part of the status bar, so basically the status bar s part of the bezel, giving more screen availability to the user.
But to each their own.
I'm just finished with companies that void warranty for unlocking the Bootloader or rooting and lock me out of having root.
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Bacon612 were you able to listen to music thru wired earbuds on the op6? If so could you comment on the audio quality between the V30 and the op6 please?
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I know you're not asking me. But i have both phones in my hand as i type this.
V30 sounds good, very clear. However, the top mounted headphone jack ruins.the entire usage of headphones while mobile.
Another thing about the v30 is that for some stupid reason, they decided to not include an equalizer for the headphone jack (DAC) Which I believe the V10, V20, & G7 do include.
I'm a bass head and NEED the heavy bass in my headphones.
For this, and this is my preference, the OP6 definitely has better sound in earbuds due to the equalizer.
Plus, the OnePlus headphones are 24ohm impedance which make them sound great in the v30 also.
Whereas the LG/B&O earbuds are complete garbage especially for $150.
For earbuds, OnePlus 6 wins.
For driven speakers and extrenal powered sound systems, the V30 kills it due to the immense clarity of the DAC.
The OP6 may not be B&O tuned but surely does have a great quality sound driver!
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I used to feel strongly about having the ability to root, but in recent years it's become less important to me. Possibly because I moved away from bloated Samsung phones (S6 was last) and I discovered Package Disabler app (for Samsung and LG phones). I'm grateful T-Mobile phones have less bloat than Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T versions. Unfortunately T-Mobile phones are usually the last to receive major OS updates.
In regards to the OP6, no wireless charging, no waterproof, and no wide-angle camera are deal breakers for me.
Well after playing with the OP6 the last few days looks like I'm selling my V30. I do see where both phones have their pros and cons but overall I like the 6. The only gripe I had when I first got the phone was the slight difference in the resolution on the display and the sound when listening to music thru my earbuds. But after tweaking the eq to my liking it sounds great. I don't even notice the display anymore since the difference is so minimal. The major plus for me is the huge dev community behind the 6 and looking forward to all tweaks and improvements that go along with that.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to chime in here. Your input was much appreciated.
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I've used the Pixel 6 Pro on and off since November. For the most part, it has been a very good phone, but after using the S22 Ultra for over 2 months now, I realize how much better the P6P could be. The 5G reception, the charging speeds, and overall stability of the Snapdragon S22 Ultra are vastly superior to the Pixel 6 Pro. To be fair, the P6P has a cleaner software experience, better camera in some respects, and better speakers, but the essentials are done better by the S22U. Like many of us, I had hoped that the P6P would have been the Samsung flagship with stock Android, but it's turning out to have similar problems as the Exynos chips, even down to running warm. There are promises for big things in the June or July update, but each update has brought new bugs. I'm considering just selling the P6P and seeing if the Pixel 7 Pro fixes anything.
The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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My girlfriend has the S21 Ultra, I have the P6P, andddd everyime I grab her phone I am surprised at how smooth it is. Every. Time.
I am getting pretty tired of having to borrow my wife's 22 when I need to make a phone call.
I had the s22ultra SD variant, sold it because if the crappy UI and micro stutters I experienced constantly. Regardless of the hardware, what good is it if the software is still in beta production.
A lot of gimmicky features like bixby, knox, etc.
Samsung has potential but they suck.
there is a 300$ difference between these two phones. the s22 ultra BETTER have the better experience.
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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Most reliable radio hardware I've had. Never had service dropped.
I used to have to have Tasker automatically cycle airplane mode whenever service was lost on all my prior phones, which were all Qualcomm flagships.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
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That's something else too. While picture quality is pretty good, the picture taking experience falls behind.
Hopefully most of the issues addressed can be resolved or mitigated through software updates, I hope, also for my own sake.
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There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
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I agree with the signal reception. I have been working from home past 2 years, so I haven't had as much time to get frustrated, meaning using it while out and about. But this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned and finding out just how horrible it is as I start traveling more. I am just outside metro DC area and have a lot of experience with other phones plus friends and family. Why, just why couldn't they have stuck with a trusted chip? Verizon, fwiw. I will eventually switch to something non Google. Other parts work great, but they call it a smartphone, not a camera connection device.
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I agree with the signal reception...this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned...
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Did a software update solve the S20 problems? I did a quick search but not seeing that exact resolution. If that update in beta right now helps a lot they may save a customer here, but I am not upgrading to a future Pixel if they put a documented problem in this phone and the solution is to upgrade out of the problem.
I have owned both and they are both flawed.
I still have the S22U and ultimately it is IMO the better option. Yes the shutter lag is annoying and OneUI has it’s frustrations too but the flaws on the Pixel are bigger, FPS was a daily frustration (and the ultrasonic FPS on samsung is just better than all optical ones IMO) auto brightness was just dumb and as other have said the radio is weaker.
I am hopeful that lessons will have been learned with the Pixel 7
I have the vanilla S22, same with everyone says, it has micro stutter on the UI frequently, and the usual Samsung not able to capture moving objects. For those reasons, I am moving to Pixel 7 Pro this year.
To be fair, the P6 Pro is in another price league. You compare an Audi A5 to a BMW 7 (significant price difference). That still doesn't excuse, however, the especially weak reception quality and temperature problems (quick overheating under stress) on a P6 Pro. Basic features need to work, full stop. And Pixels struggle with that at times.