Ok, I waited since I pre-ordered my 3xl to catch this in stock, ordered it and got it yesterday with the main intent of using it with retroarch and some steam games.
The Pros:
Out of the box it worked with no need for an app or any special phone setup
Setting up key binds in retroarch is.. interesting but I had done it before so I can't label it as hard
In steam streaming it works with a flaw I'll note under the cons
Power pass through is a good send when running higher cpu using emulation
The Cons:
The joysticks are not "tight" as in they wiggle in there sockets
The L2 and R2 are extremely mushy and highly sensitive making it really easy to press when just holding the controller
Steam stream app doesn't seem to recognize the dpad
Retroarch won't seem to map to what I would call the start and select buttons, or the gamevice button.
Doesn't work with any case on my 3xl.
You can't plug external media into the USB c on the controller, meaning no loading ROMs from usb.
Haven't tested:
Headphone jack
All in all I will keep it for what it is but wanted to share my experience.
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Saw some threads about this in the A500 section, but anyone try this (or other) controller with the A100?
I'd love to see a list of games/apps that work with it.
I'm sure it works great with the emulators
I thought I had found the pairing/installation guide online, but now I can't find it again. So I posted the product description from GameStop's site below.
Gamestop's retail stores don't even know they are selling this online, but it's been available at least since last christmas season.
They are even planning to sell their own branded tablet for gaming.
Here's the details from their site...
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The Wireless Tablet Game Controller is an incredible accessory only available at GameStop. Consumers can use it with their tablet and an HDMI cable (Micro to standard HDMI- sold at GameStop) to view their tablet games on their HDTV and play form their couch with the wireless controller (up to 30 feet away!). Definitely a new way to game!!
• Simple set up
• Bluetooth wireless technology
• Rechargeable unit with built in batteries and charging cable included
• Mapped control options let you assign buttons to the game actions you want
• Designed to work with select Android tablets
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Works with Version 1.3 and above of GTA III, I know because I am running it on my A100. As for other games, I am not so sure.
I bought mine when i bought my a100 from gamestop before christmas.
I have used the controller with MAME4droid, Riptide GP, SpeedXGalagus and Cordy.
Riptide GP and Cordy came pre-installed by gamestop, don't know if that makes a difference or not.
controller has at least a 20 foot range as well, it works fine from across the living room with the a100 connected to the TV via hdmi cable. (SpeedXGalagus doesn't work with tv because of orientation).
only problem i have had is that the OS sees the controller as a keyboard, so some non games will refuse to show the onscreen keyboard if the controller is connected/bound.
tsenecal said:
only problem i have had is that the OS sees the controller as a keyboard, so some non games will refuse to show the onscreen keyboard if the controller is connected/bound.
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Interesting, What apps? not ran into that issue myself
tsenecal said:
only problem i have had is that the OS sees the controller as a keyboard, so some non games will refuse to show the onscreen keyboard if the controller is connected/bound.
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You can get the keyboard to start poping up like normal. Same thing happens for me with bluetooth mouse. Just click the little keyboard icon down in the bar by the clock and select the keyboard you want to use, and toggle the little slider switch at the top of the menu. Then your keyboard will pop up like normal. You have to do it each time, but at least you get funtionality that way.
Hey, well since I didnt see a topic about wired controllers yet, I thought I would share my findings yesterday.
I just got in my USB OTG Adapter so when I got home, I tried my Logitech F310 controller on my Stock T-Mobile rom. Works great! (X-Input mode) I was actually navigating the entire screen with my controller, using Circle button to exit out etc. Was very plug and play! Best part, Emulators worked 100% for the key bindings to it! So wanted to pass this info on to anyone else who was wondering about "Wired" option. Since I know we can do Wii controllers, PS3 ones and so. Cept.. I dont WANT to resync or change batteries out all the time.
Now I had seen this on the market too. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoy&hl=en
Its about 5$ but not sure why I would use this if built in all works fine?
I did notice tho the USB port gets a lil warm after awhile of using it. (Since its powering yoru USB device it seems)
Now I did try the gamepad in minecraft. Some buttons work for opening menu, or "digging" however cant seem to make the movement work. So I may try to hit up Notch to allow keybinding options.
In my emulators tho, You set the D-Pad up for that, however a bonus.. analog stick works too for movement without setting anything up! Was playing Arcus Odyssey on Sega last night with the anlog stick heh.
Now I wonder.. if I use a mini usb "Y" adapter so I can have it plugged into the power source and my controller at the same time. That should work right? (This way I can keep it in my Dock, charging it while playing with the controller)
Sixaxis is better and cheaper.
psykhotic said:
Sixaxis is better and cheaper.
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But youd have to resync to PS3 or Tablet each time. Which is what I find annoying. Then till I get the 50$ Universal BT Onlive Controller (Which seems sweet and can dedicate it to android use) The wired option is nice. =)
I have been working with Launchers and Android native apps.
The conversations often turns to the ability to control glass in different ways.
Here we can talk about what we have done, what works and what doesn't.
Works for me
Bluetooth
Paired Bluetooth Peripherals with sideloaded Bluetooth Manager for Glass
http://ddrboxman.github.io/Bluetooth-Manager-for-Glass/
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse MX5000
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Cordless-Desktop-Laser-967558-0403/dp/B000AY5ZIS
MOGA Pro (tested playing SNES emulator)
http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Gaming-Android-Smartphones-Smartphone-Tablet/dp/B00BTDBSXU
Best of all BlueputDroid with Rooted Note 10.1 (paired Note 10.1 tablet to glass and use tablet to control Glass mouse and keyboard)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=berserker.android.apps.blueputdroid&hl=en
Audio
Hands Free Headset (Micro USB Stereo) OEM EHS49UD0MEBSTD for Samsung Flight (Black)
Got them on Amazon for less then five bucks
USB OTG cable
I hear this works but i have not tried it, would love to hear what others may have done with this
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I have been working with Launchers and Android native apps.
The conversations often turns to the ability to control glass in different ways.
Here we can talk about what we have done, what works and what doesn't.
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I noted this in a post elsewhere, but it's obviously more appropriate for this conversation.
I've been playing with background services on Glass that listen for a controller application via Bluetooth commands. The main limitation I've come across is the service's need to be a system app to control Glass globally. Inside a tester app within the same package however, the service works pretty well, other than a delay.
The service has other uses other than global control of Glass. The most appealing idea to me would be using the code within an emulator of some sort (GameBoy maybe?) and using your handheld device as a controller. Even more appealing would be the use of gestures for controls, instead of buttons on a touchscreen. Using gestures, you won't have to look down at your phone to see if your pressing the right button.
ShareKM Glass XE16
Wanted to post this up here since it is an amazing why to control Google Glass
There is an android app called ShareKM. It has been abandoned by its developer but there is a small group of people trying to keep it alive. At any rate the point of it is to control and android device from a computer. There is an apk in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52164367 that has made it so I can plug my Google Glass XE16 into a PC over USB and my PCs keyboard and mouse will throw over. So it acts like it sees my Glass as another screen and just walks the mouse and keyboard over!!!!
If your glass is rooted you can use bluetooth or wifi but a direct USB connection really links your PC mouse and keyboard to your glass. It is just like a PC application I love called Synergy. I use synergy to link one keyboard and mouse across a windows box, a Linux box and a Mac box. A three screen computer effect but three different operating systems!
So when I use Glass Launcher i can use ShareKM to interact with my android apps on my glass. Give it a try it is amazing!
I've just got a Fire Box & a new 360 Xbox controller wireless with microsoft's official dongle (official microsoft NOT generic)
Could someone walk me through what you pressed & for how long to pair it?
The Fire TV Box doesn't see it when I try to pair it (just continually searches). But it does recognise it partially for navigating menus. It recognises inputs from the left joystick & d pad only, & the A & B button. The right joystick is dead.
Looks like it's working as intended for you:
Left stick + D-Pad is for scrolling
A = OK
B = Back
XBox Button = Home
Start = Menu
Right stick has not functionality in the menus.
If that's working you don't have to pair it anywhere.
You can use it to navigate. Using it in any Emulator or Game App should also work Out-Of-The-Box now. Just use the controller button assignment in those apps.
I have a generic receiver but when that's already working fine it should be ok with the original.
Oh btw: The controller keeps blinking for me but it still works. Even for 2 controllers on the one receiver.
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Looks like it's working as intended for you:
Left stick + D-Pad is for scrolling
A = OK
B = Back
XBox Button = Home
Start = Menu
Right stick has not functionality in the menus.
If that's working you don't have to pair it anywhere.
You can use it to navigate. Using it in any Emulator or Game App should also work Out-Of-The-Box now. Just use the controller button assignment in those apps.
I have a generic receiver but when that's already working fine it should be ok with the original.
Oh btw: The controller keeps blinking for me but it still works. Even for 2 controllers on the one receiver.
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Oh thanks for that I feel really dumb now. I only ever gamed on my PC with a keyboard & mouse last time I used a controller was when I was a kid.
What do you do when you run out of buttons & triggers for a game? I'm playing Dead Trigger 2 & I don't have enough buttons & it makes you program them in yourself. There is no default.
I don't even know which buttons/triggers etc I should program in for what function. I know it would vary by person & game but I imagine there is probably a basic commonality to the way people decide which buttons to use for what.
Yeah the blinking is annoying but everyone gets that apparently.
Mrs Hedgehog
hi, can I use the ps4 control with the BlackShark2? tnks. :good:
SePudrioLaMomia said:
hi, can I use the ps4 control with the BlackShark2? tnks. :good:
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Yes and no. Ds4 works perfectly outside of shark space (the gaming mode) with zero issues.
With sharkspace enabled the ds4 looses connection and fails to reconnect untill sharkspace has been disabled/quit.
We can load sixaxis controller app from inside sharkspace, so in the future with root access (we currently don't have root) it should be usable in its gaming mode. But at present your going to have to play without one of the black sharks main selling points if you want to use your dual shock for.
This is also the case for all my 3rd party controllers, one user has claimed success with an ipega controller, but I've not got one to test, note planning on getting one.
The official controllers for the blackshark 2 are probably going to be the best option for full compatability unfortunately
Thanks bro!! I appreciate the time and dedication in the response, greetings. Maxx.-
Which controller have you guys tried? I tried my wireless controller using otg but seems like it doesn't recognize otg connection ?
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Which controller have you guys tried? I tried my wireless controller using otg but seems like it doesn't recognize otg connection
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I've tried a DS3, ds4, c.t.r.l and a nvidia shield bt controller, none worked inside sharkspace all worked outside.
I also manually changed the master addresses of the controllers aswell via a pc to match the blackshark2 with no success, tried various gamepad mappers also with no success.
As above there's a post on here somewhere someone recogned the i.p.e.g.a controllers work but personally I am not willing to buy one to test, maybe if someone with a legitimate blackshark2 controller would mind sharing the master bt address the controllers use we could use a pc to change our controllers (ds4 etc) to match, and maybe the blackshark would recognise our Bluetooth controllers as the official ones in sharkspace and stay connected.
That's my only other suggestion/idea untill we have Root access, and even then if they connect and they still probably won't, I dunno if there would be input issues caused as a result of the hardware not matching the software
As far as your otg controller is concerned does it connect and function as intended outside of sharkspace?
It doesn't work at all using otg. It says charging device ?
Just tried again, so my controller has two config dinput mode and xinput mode. Turns out one of them works and the other is not recognised. I think the xinput mode is what works and when I switch to it the controller works outside and inside shark space as well. Although, the button are a bit wrong but i remap them in game and i can play fortnite without any issues. I will still buy the black shark gamepad 2.0 though.
Your absolutely correct buddy thank you.
Dinput controllers such as the ds4 are not working inside sharkspace.
The nintendo switch joycons use xinput and work with the blackshark inside sharkspace. I did notice some input lag on the joycons but to be honest I wasnt playing the best game to test a controller. The switch pro controller also uses xinput so will assume that works aswell, but again not got one to test.
I have the Black Shark Gamepad 2.0, which is unfortunately a bit of a disappointment. It has some very strange aspects to it: Y button cannot be mapped in Shark Space mode, it acts as some toggle between touch screen emulation and mouse cursor mode, which I don't understand why someone would use that. It's useless to me as someone who wants it solely for emulators.
When used outside of Shark Space mode, the DPad and the lettered face buttons both register as the same thing A/B/X/Y buttons. Also, the right touchpad does not act like a stick, instead it acts like a mouse.
On top if this, there are no start, select or L3/R3 buttons. This amounts to playing in Shark Space mode leaving you 5 buttons short of a full controller and outside Shark Space to playing 8 buttons short.
I could get the master BT address for you but I am not exactly sure how to do it. Do I just need to pair it to a PC and do... what?
Has anyone tried using the Xbox 360 controllers