Treble support for LG G3 - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This thread popped up yesterday which makes me very optimistic we could finally have Treble support on our G3 phones. The hardware is more than capable, we have sufficient horsepower, memory and storage, official Lineage 15.1 support and now one of the variants even has a Treble-compatible recovery! Any developers working on Treble support for the G3?

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Android P ROM ?

Will there be any Android P roms?
Hard to say and if so it will be full of bugs so...
vlonebenzzz said:
Will there be any Android P roms?
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Well dude the G3 development is extremely slow, and you say, why you say that. Many others devices more older than G3 have p roms not free of bug but enough stable for dayli driver for example motorola devices, xiaomi and many others, if you go and check the lineage Os Page you can see there's no single Lg that have official support for lineage 15.1, even an older device like g3 have 8.1 through Crdroid and is smooth and stable at least for my device D851 variant. So conclusions the G3 development is practically dead, thanks to God for the devs that continue with the development, you know slow but is better than nothing.

Treble Rooting/Modding?

As far as I know, the LG G7 and Android smartphones released with Oreo support project Treble and John Wu's Magisk now support rooting using Treble so I'm really hoping this will bring root to the device.
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1008056655001468928?s=19

SAMSUNG Galaxy J7 2017 (J730F/DS) - Project Treble?

Hi dears!
Is it possible to repartition and make Project Treble for SAMSUNG Galaxy J7 2017 (J730F/DS)? I'm very sad, cuz this phone doesn't support none of stable custom ROM's like LineageOS or Ressurection Remix.
Its near impossible to "partition" your phone for project treble to be compatible, if it didn't ship with 8.1.0 Oreo then its a guarantee its nor compatible
Project treble is compatible with android 8.1.0 or above
Their is things happening in the world and your sad cause project treble is incompatible with your phone, grow up
Steku1997 said:
Hi dears!
Is it possible to repartition and make Project Treble for SAMSUNG Galaxy J7 2017 (J730F/DS)? I'm very sad, cuz this phone doesn't support none of stable custom ROM's like LineageOS or Ressurection Remix.
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Everything is possible. Some things are just difficult.
You can take a look at Mi A1 repartition guide made by CosmicDan. He added vendor partition to Mi A1 which had Nougat out of the box.
But don't use that guide. You would need Treble vendor and Kernel with Treble support etc first.
If there's any other phone with same CPU and it has Treble then You can try porting it from that device. But that's difficult. And some things could be buggy. On some Samsung phones You wouldn't even need to repartition them as You can use their /cache partition to keep vendor files.
I'd recommend You to just buy a new phone with Treble if You really need Treble that much. There are lots of cheap Xiaomi phones with good specs and they support Treble.
Your phone got 8.1 update so You're not using outdated firmware.. Treble only sounds fun for the first 10 minutes. Then You start noticing that all roms are almost identical Except for MIUI 10 or Nubia sGSI.

How would one start with porting treble to a non treble device?

I don't have a whole lot of experience with building ROMs but I have built some for the LG G5 and I was wondering how I would get started porting treble to it.
Thanks,
ROMSG
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...ssion/research-project-treble-ported-t3744602
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/project-treble-porting-op3-t3748286
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...eble-lineageos-15-1-treble-oneplus-3-t3830455
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...ussion/discussion-guide-oneplus-5-5t-t3776358
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/treble-stock-to-treble-everything-to-t3793734
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/development/aio-project-treble-tissot-t3793408
https://devrant.com/rants/1586230/p...y-pain-but-thats-nothing-compared-to-whats-to

Confused: Why 32bit only OS on Moto G5 64bit hardware?

Hi!
If I understand things correctly, my Moto G5 phone is born with an Android OS version that only accepts 32bit code, although the hardware is 64bit?
Why did Moto do that? It sounds like selling a car with a 6 or 8 cylinders engine, and only use 4 of them...?!
And on top of that, I discovered they stopped updating that (primitive 32bit) Android 8.1.0 OS in February 2019...
Should I switch to a custom 64bit ROM? NB!: Stability and robustness is more important to me than fancy new features...!
I found 2 lists of 'Best ROMs for Moto G5'. The shortest recommends 8 here:
https://romsx.com/best-custom-roms-for-moto-g5/
So which should I choose?
NB: Moto G5 only has 16 GB.
Hero002 said:
Hi!
If I understand things correctly, my Moto G5 phone is born with an Android OS version that only accepts 32bit code, although the hardware is 64bit?
Why did Moto do that? It sounds like selling a car with a 6 or 8 cylinders engine, and only use 4 of them...?!
And on top of that, I discovered they stopped updating that (primitive 32bit) Android 8.1.0 OS in February 2019...
Should I switch to a custom 64bit ROM? NB!: Stability and robustness is more important to me than fancy new features...!
I found 2 lists of 'Best ROMs for Moto G5'. The shortest recommends 8 here:
https://romsx.com/best-custom-roms-for-moto-g5/
So which should I choose?
NB: Moto G5 only has 16 GB.
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You will have to ask Motorola for the answer to the first part
As for custom 64bit roms:
Lineage 17.1
Lineage mint (based on lineage 17.1)
ASOP android 10
Are the latest custom roms for this device (see dev section)
All will have the same issue with regards to camera/video recording not working fully
TheFixItMan said:
You will have to ask Motorola for the answer to the first part
As for custom 64bit roms:
Lineage 17.1
Lineage mint (based on lineage 17.1)
ASOP android 10
Are the latest custom roms for this device (see dev section)
All will have the same issue with regards to camera/video recording not working fully
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Thank you for your reply!
But what about ROMs that have been more tested in real life, where camera and video etc. work?
Yes - it is Motorola that should answer my first questions. I don't expect any answer from them... But others might have a comment...
Hero002 said:
Thank you for your reply!
But what about ROMs that have been more tested in real life, where camera and video etc. work?
Yes - it is Motorola that should answer my first questions. I don't expect any answer from them... But others might have a comment...
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All 64bit roms will have the camera issue as Motorola have not released updated camera libs
The roms I listed above are the latest roms which will have the camera bug minimised but you will still experience issues in some apps like only being able to take a certain amount of photos before the app freezes, camera not working in low light, green tint, video not recording/saving and so on. You can use various other apps but nothing is perfect and you may still experience issues
The only fully functioning custom rom with no bugs will be the 32bit lineage 14.1
TheFixItMan said:
All 64bit roms will have the camera issue as Motorola have not released updated camera libs
The roms I listed above are the latest roms which will have the camera bug minimised but you will still experience issues in some apps like only being able to take a certain amount of photos before the app freezes, camera not working in low light, green tint, video not recording/saving and so on. You can use various other apps but nothing is perfect and you may still experience issues
The only fully functioning custom rom with no bugs will be the 32bit lineage 14.1
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That is the most useful information I have yet seen about custom ROMs - thank you!
But according to https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/7-1-x-lineageos-14-1-moto-g5-t3611973 LineageOS 14.1 for Moto G5 is:
ROM OS Version: 7.1.x Nougat
Last Updated 2018-03-18
And the 'stock' OS on my Moto G5 is Android 8.1.0 updated in February 2019.
My intention was to UPgrade my OS, not DOWNgrade it... !
So THAT LineageOS 14.1 doesn't really seem relevant.
And on https://download.lineageos.org/ there doesn't seem to be a version for Moto G5(?) There are versions for G4 and G6, but not G5. (Neither under Lenovo - the actual producer.)
But thanks anyway!
Hero002 said:
That is the most useful information I have yet seen about custom ROMs - thank you!
But according to https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/7-1-x-lineageos-14-1-moto-g5-t3611973 LineageOS 14.1 for Moto G5 is:
ROM OS Version: 7.1.x Nougat
Last Updated 2018-03-18
And the 'stock' OS on my Moto G5 is Android 8.1.0 updated in February 2019.
My intention was to UPgrade my OS, not DOWNgrade it... !
So THAT LineageOS 14.1 doesn't really seem relevant.
And on https://download.lineageos.org/ there doesn't seem to be a version for Moto G5(?) There are versions for G4 and G6, but not G5. (Neither under Lenovo - the actual producer.)
But thanks anyway!
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Only official versions will be on the lineageos website
There is no difference between an official and unofficial version except the official versions are built on the lineage servers every week with any lineage side changes (not device side unless merged by maintainer)
However official versions have to meet certain criteria in terms of everything that works in stock rom must work in the unofficial lineage build submitted to become official.
As the camera doesn't work as it does in stock in lineage 17.1 it will never become official in its current state
They are listed under Motorola because that is the company that makes the phones
Lenovo is the parent company that owns Motorola
TheFixItMan said:
Only official versions will be on the lineageos website
There is no difference between an official and unofficial version except the official versions are built on the lineage servers every week with any lineage side changes (not device side unless merged by maintainer)
However official versions have to meet certain criteria in terms of everything that works in stock rom must work in the unofficial lineage build submitted to become official.
As the camera doesn't work as it does in stock in lineage 17.1 it will never become official in its current state
They are listed under Motorola because that is the company that makes the phones
Lenovo is the parent company that owns Motorola
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Thank you.
But I am not 100% sure about whether you are confirming that the stock ROM on Moto G5 is the newest available Android OS version where everything works?
Hero002 said:
Thank you.
But I am not 100% sure about whether you are confirming that the stock ROM on Moto G5 is the newest available Android OS version where everything works?
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Stock rom will be the latest os version where everything works 100%
All 64bit custom roms have camera issues due to no updated propriety sources
TheFixItMan said:
Stock rom will be the latest os version where everything works 100%
All 64bit custom roms have camera issues due to no updated proprietary sources
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That's sad.
So when I want to buy a phone in the future:
Which other smart phone brands will probably not leave their customers with 'a choice between plague or cholera'...?
Hero002 said:
That's sad.
So when I want to buy a phone in the future:
Which other smart phone brands will probably not leave their customers with 'a choice between plague or cholera'...?
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Samsung will have the most community support as they are the most popular phones
Google pixel will obviously have longevity
Xiaomi might be the best budget choice other than later Motorola models

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