Suggest Quick Charger for Redmi note 7
abu13 said:
Suggest Quick Charger for Redmi note 7
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In India, buying mi quick charger 3.0 is the wisest choice. I bought it with redmi note 7 @ Rs. 450 from Mi home. It's not the fastest, but surely saves around 1 hr for charging than the stock charger.
The faster you charge your phone the more heat it'll produce. Be careful and follow the guidelines since it could harm your device otherwise
abu13 said:
Suggest Quick Charger for Redmi note 7
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the charger that is included on RN7 Pro China is 18watts quick charger 3.0.. so look for something like this.. I haven't found QuickCharge 4.0 charger around me yet...
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MarvinMe said:
The faster you charge your phone the more heat it'll produce. Be careful and follow the guidelines since it could harm your device otherwise
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maximum watts suggested by xiaomi for RN7 / Pro is 18 watts.. so your phone is still safe with this chargers.. (but look for the original product just to be safe)
bhert01 said:
the charger that is included on RN7 Pro China is 18watts quick charger 3.0.. so look for something like this.. I haven't found QuickCharge 4.0 charger around me yet...
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maximum watts suggested by xiaomi for RN7 / Pro is 18 watts.. so your phone is still safe with this chargers.. (but look for the original product just to be safe)
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I have home 24W QC3.0 charger, I will test it if it works!
Probably is also important type of USB cable.
Use mi qc 3.0 charger
Using mi qc 3.0 charger, works well
What about this one?
https://www.gearbest.com/chargers-cables/pp_009664077039.html?wid=1349303
looks like gearbest propose it in a bundle with the Redmi Note 7.
https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009575346063.html?wid=1349303#goodsDetail
abu13 said:
Suggest Quick Charger for Redmi note 7
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for redmi note 7 any higher voltages over 4.4V can't do any good - it shrinks for sure the lifetime span best scenario at half so my advice is to keep up using the standard charger which is very healthy for your 4000mAh battery. Also when charging try not to get it full 100%, so you'll have after 3 years of use a battery as new as you bought it - of course no company or company service would agree with me, they need you buying a new phone as soon as possible - the truth is that used cautiously batteries are able to work at maximum capacity about over 600 discharge cycles
viki191 said:
Using mi qc 3.0 charger, works well
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1)is your mobile heating?, please mention temperature after charging upto 1 hour
2)how much time does it takes to charge say from 20% to 80%
3)you can use Accu battery (android app) for battery temperature and charging speed
Golem_ said:
for redmi note 7 any higher voltages over 4.4V can't do any good - it shrinks for sure the lifetime span best scenario at half so my advice is to keep up using the standard charger which is very healthy for your 4000mAh battery. Also when charging try not to get it full 100%, so you'll have after 3 years of use a battery as new as you bought it - of course no company or company service would agree with me, they need you buying a new phone as soon as possible - the truth is that used cautiously batteries are able to work at maximum capacity about over 600 discharge cycles
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Yeah, and using battery however you want you get 500 full cycles before battery goes down to like 80% capacity, which is still FINE. So difference is so little i will just enjoy my phone, instead of worrying about such things. Also who uses their phone more than 2 years?
Plekst said:
Yeah, and using battery however you want you get 500 full cycles before battery goes down to like 80% capacity, which is still FINE. So difference is so little i will just enjoy my phone, instead of worrying about such things. Also who uses their phone more than 2 years?
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I'm working in a field where drones are vital so I have to know a lot about Lithium battery
Your assumptions are correct but like 4 years ago, meanwhile things changed not in the best way
Worst step they made is overcharging - I bet you didn't know are actually overcharging, by increasing the load voltage from 4.2V to 4.4V they succeeded to push more in our battery... so that they stamp now 4000mAh where actually sits 3200mAh - the costs? it halves the life span or even worse. If you put over that "quick charge" suddenly your 500 cycles is a beautiful dream
Golem_ said:
I'm working in a field where drones are vital so I have to know a lot about Lithium battery
Your assumptions are correct but like 4 years ago, meanwhile things changed not in the best way
Worst step they made is overcharging - I bet you didn't know are actually overcharging, by increasing the load voltage from 4.2V to 4.4V they succeeded to push more in our battery... so that they stamp now 4000mAh where actually sits 3200mAh - the costs? it halves the life span or even worse. If you put over that "quick charge" suddenly your 500 cycles is a beautiful dream
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Technology advances, ofcourse engineers trying to fit more energy in as small body as possible, thats only logical way. These "newer" batterys with max 4.4V have different structure to the more common 4.2V, they have extra materials like graphene helping them withstand it. Anyways, even nexus 5x which was released 4years ago, have such battery. And if you google it, you will find plenty of scientific tests newer than 4 years, showing same degradation, around 500 full cycles till you lose like 20%. So again, i dont see a reason to worry. Ill better enjoy my phone. Even if my battery is ruined after 2 years, hell, new one costs 10euros max, ill just swap it and keep using it whatever way i want. I mean, technically you are right, they do overcharge them, and mah does go down as voltage goes down, its not really 4000mah, but practically, its not worth all the trouble. Just enjoy your device.
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Technology advances, ofcourse engineers trying to fit more energy in as small body as possible, thats only logical way. These "newer" batterys with max 4.4V have different structure to the more common 4.2V, they have extra materials like graphene helping them withstand it. Anyways, even nexus 5x which was released 4years ago, have such battery. And if you google it, you will find plenty of scientific tests newer than 4 years, showing same degradation, around 500 full cycles till you lose like 20%. So again, i dont see a reason to worry. Ill better enjoy my phone. Even if my battery is ruined after 2 years, hell, new one costs 10euros max, ill just swap it and keep using it whatever way i want. I mean, technically you are right, they do overcharge them, and mah does go down as voltage goes down, its not really 4000mah, but practically, its not worth all the trouble. Just enjoy your device.
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update - it looks like RN7 4Ah xiaomi batteries wears out pretty fast, lot of users using quick charge (which in RN7 case makes charging faster with 15min or so) report that at less than a month the SOT decrease from 9+ hours to under 7 hours. It seems like that the profit margins made that so xiaomi puts in their phones batteries using old common technology. Most probably you're right but only when about flagships
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update - it looks like RN7 4Ah xiaomi batteries wears out pretty fast, lot of users using quick charge (which in RN7 case makes charging faster with 15min or so) report that at less than a month the SOT decrease from 9+ hours to under 7 hours. It seems like that the profit margins made that so xiaomi puts in their phones batteries using old common technology. Most probably you're right but only when about flagships
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Lol. If this was true whole internet would be full of complains, redmi is sold worldwide now, so believe me, european buyers wouldnt stay silent if battery degraded after a month. You would be reading articles in every smartphone news site, but thats not the case, so obviously thats not true, i dont know where you are finding this false information. Also, SOT is the dumbest thing to measure battery capacity, as it can be influenced by many factors. Check actual battery capacity in mah with app like Gsam or BBS.
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Lol. If this was true whole internet would be full of complains, redmi is sold worldwide now, so believe me, european buyers wouldnt stay silent if battery degraded after a month. You would be reading articles in every smartphone news site, but thats not the case, so obviously thats not true, i dont know where you are finding this false information. Also, SOT is the dumbest thing to measure battery capacity, as it can be influenced by many factors. Check actual battery capacity in mah with app like Gsam or BBS.
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Ah, got it now, you're that kind of "I chose to believe" from matrix guy... not going to disturb you anymore with false information about machine world :laugh:
Golem_ said:
Ah, got it now, you're that kind of "I chose to believe" from matrix guy... not going to disturb you anymore with false information about machine world :laugh:
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Show me 1 source of your information and we can discuss. Now you just talk nonsense out of your head . I can also create false nonsense, watch.
Edit: Update, a lot of users are reporting that battery is completely fine after months of using quick charge 4. We are good to go. Lmao.
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Show me 1 source of your information and we can discuss. Now you just talk nonsense out of your head . I can also create false nonsense, watch.
Edit: Update, a lot of users are reporting that battery is completely fine after months of using quick charge 4. We are good to go. Lmao.
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I think i earned my trust on this forum so no one to put under doubt my words - before asking things develop yourself cracking/hacking tools having tens of thousands of downloads, so to speak becoming a real xda member, then come back and I will show you tones of proves (you're a google fan, right? yeeep, google doesn't help sometime)... 'til then farewell rookie!
update: checked for your own useful threads, didn't find any... you don't want to share from your vastly knowledge?
Golem_ said:
I think i earned my trust on this forum so no one to put under doubt my words - before asking things develop yourself cracking/hacking tools having tens of thousands of downloads, so to speak becoming a real xda member, then come back and I will show you tones of proves (you're a google fan, right? yeeep, google doesn't help sometime)... 'til then farewell rookie!
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Haha, so standart. So many words, and zero proof or sources. Yeah, cya buddy. I dont have anything to prove because im talking facts. You on the other hand, are talking nonsense out of your ass. And when asked for proof, you write 5 lines of self promoting, how wonderful of a xda member you are, Lmaooo ?? ive been on xda since 2008, "rookie". Im mature enough to not believe every nonsense i see, unlike you it seems. Yeah, sure, battery is degraded in RN7 after 1 month use... Lmao, do you seriously believe this nonsense yourself? All these batterys are basically the same, and most of oems use quick charge 4 because it is LICENSED and SAFE technology. But yeah, you probably know better than thousands of engineers thinking otherwise ? because you created a cheap chinese smartwatch tool, that makes your opinion much more valid than the rest of the world, and you need no proof, your words are enough. Jeesus, some people live in dellusional world... Ever heard of tesla cars? They use same batteries as in laptops, smartphones etc. Difference being, they use much higher voltages and amperages than we do. Yet the batteries are fine. They even give 5 years warranty. So how do you explain that? Let me guess, you cant, because you talk nonsense out of your ass, and when asked for proof, you start bragging about your simple mtk tool which has nothing to do with this topic lmao.
conclusion: don't buy a quick charger for RN7
kabeza said:
conclusion: don't buy a quick charger for RN7
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Yes, if you believe telltales and grandma's fairytails. If you believe facts and scientific tests, you are free to use it, because there is absolutely no facts pointing otherwise.
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3100 mha battery ...any body have used this battery..any good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Baixt-Capacity-3100mAh-Standard-EB615268VU/dp/B008JAYXVU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346273688&sr=8-1
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3100 mha battery ...any body have used this battery..any good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Baixt-Capacity-3100mAh-Standard-EB615268VU/dp/B008JAYXVU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346273688&sr=8-1
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Please tell me the Note 2 battery fits my Note!?
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Please tell me the Note 2 battery fits my Note!?
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dunno about note 2..but this one states clearly for note 1...:laugh:
scorpion100 said:
dunno about note 2..but this one states clearly for note 1...:laugh:
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Yeah...but its made in China most likely and is a fail.
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Yeah...but its made in China most likely and is a fail.
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if you found a good battery better than 2500 mha..plz bring it on board..my battery life sux ...charge it everyday that is why looking for 3100 batteries
I will never ever buy a unoriginal battery. There's a reason why we read those articles about exploding devices.
LordManhattan said:
I will never ever buy a unoriginal battery. There's a reason why we read those articles about exploding devices.
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What about the Mugen battery?...didn't XDA recommend it?
With the current state of technology it'll be hard to get significantly more than 2500mAh to fit within the Note's battery size... So that one is a fake, like all the other Chinese knock offs that offer similar ratings...
freebeerz said:
With the current state of technology it'll be hard to get significantly more than 2500mAh to fit within the Note's battery size... So that one is a fake, like all the other Chinese knock offs that offer similar ratings...
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im sorry but i have to correct you on this..i bought ANKER battery which is 2700..it does last longer than the original 2500 and it fits perfectly... it is made in china... and it perform better than the original samsung battery..so it is not always true that chinese batteries are fake and no good..and by the way can you go around your house and check all the products you have you should find most electronics you own made in china :laugh: ..and am from uk
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if you found a good battery better than 2500 mha..plz bring it on board..
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That's just Chinese junk with most likely LOWER real mAh than the original battery...
my battery life sux ...charge it everyday that is why looking for 3100 batteries
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You are trying to solve the every smartphone's problem of needing a daily charge in the completely wrong way.
Buy additional batteries (I have a total of 4 original ones) and separate desktop battery chargers (I have 2 original ones) and you will never again have "battery anxiety" nor will you have ever again to keep your smartphone chained down to a wallet charger since you will be charging each battery separately from the phone...
I have been doing this since MANY years on my last 6 smartphones and I am continually shocked to see how seemingly few people are taking advantage of this setup... Even "powerusers" on xda!
For me there is NO other way and I consider "smart"phones with integrated batteries as useless, worthless toys...
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That's just Chinese junk with most likely LOWER real mAh than the original battery...
You are trying to solve the every smartphone's problem of needing a daily charge in the completely wrong way.
Buy additional batteries (I have a total of 4 original ones) and separate desktop battery chargers (I have 2 original ones) and you will never again have "battery anxiety" nor will you have ever again to keep your smartphone chained down to a wallet charger since you will be charging each battery separately from the phone...
I have been doing this since MANY years on my last 6 smartphones and I am continually shocked to see how seemingly few people are taking advantage of this setup... Even "powerusers" on xda!
For me there is NO other way and I consider "smart"phones with integrated batteries as useless, worthless toys...
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yeah i already bought an extra batteries ..i just bought the anker battery with 2700 and trust me it last longer than the original...and im going to buy another original as a spare as well... so in total i will be having 3 batteries
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yeah i already bought an extra batteries ..i just bought the anker battery with 2700 and trust me it last longer than the original...and im going to buy another original as a spare as well... so in total i will be having 3 batteries
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Are you also using desktop battery chargers? If the answer is yes I would really like to know why you want to mess around with non-original batteries...
All of the tests (or at least the professionally done ones..) that I have seen show that most of these batteries have sensibly lower real mAh than the nominal ones and/or degrade pretty more quickly. The few good ones are invariably the expensive ones which, when they grant appreciable higher mAh than the original ones, are also sensibly bigger and heavier and require different, "bulging" back covers to accomodate them which means that they can most probably not be docked anymore in the car mount or in the desktop dock (if you use one), are less comfortable to pocket, make the phone heavier and ruin the design too (not much important this last point but still), YUCK!
xdapao3 said:
Are you also using desktop battery chargers? If the answer is yes I would really like to know why you want to mess around with non-original batteries...
All of the tests (or at least the professionally done ones..) that I have seen show that most of these batteries have sensibly lower real mAh than the nominal ones and/or degrade pretty more quickly. The few good ones are invariably the expensive ones which, when they grant appreciable higher mAh than the original ones, are also sensibly bigger and heavier and require different, "bulging" back covers to accomodate them which means that they can most probably not be docked anymore in the car mount or in the desktop dock (if you use one), are less comfortable to pocket, make the phone heavier and ruin the design too (not much important this last point but still), YUCK!
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no mate just those batteries... so your advise is to stay away from not original... although ANKER seems to have positive feedback from customers who bought it in amazon..
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What about the Mugen battery?...didn't XDA recommend it?
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Well, Mugen makes quality batteries and it's a known brand. The chinese no-name batteries are not. We do not know how it's made, what materials has been used and so on. It's not worth the risk IMO. If that battery melts or worse; explodes, you won't only lose the 10 dollars you used - your device and maybe even your leg/face will get damaged.
Worth it?
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no mate just those batteries...
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then you're hugely missing out on the benefits I talked about.
Toss away non-original batteries, get yourself a desktop battery chargher and forget about all these nonsense battery problems!
so your advise is to stay away from not original... although ANKER seems to have positive feedback from customers who bought it in amazon..
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I don't care about feedback from who knows who, I care about cold hard datas and the facts are those I wrote above.
Adopt the setup I suggested you and you too will see no reason to use anything else but original batteries.
You talk sense guys..thx for advice..is there any particular desktop charger you would recommend ??
xdapao3 said:
That's just Chinese junk with most likely LOWER real mAh than the original battery...
You are trying to solve the every smartphone's problem of needing a daily charge in the completely wrong way.
Buy additional batteries (I have a total of 4 original ones) and separate desktop battery chargers (I have 2 original ones) and you will never again have "battery anxiety" nor will you have ever again to keep your smartphone chained down to a wallet charger since you will be charging each battery separately from the phone...
I have been doing this since MANY years on my last 6 smartphones and I am continually shocked to see how seemingly few people are taking advantage of this setup... Even "powerusers" on xda!
For me there is NO other way and I consider "smart"phones with integrated batteries as useless, worthless toys...
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I think most of the people don't like multiple batteries as that requires popping out the accessory cover/case AND the phone cover every single time to swap the battery. Of course, the batteries and their chargers need to be carried around too. All this is tedious and most don't like this inconvenience, so they prefer a battery with higher mAh instead of multiple batteries.
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scorpion100 said:
You talk sense guys..thx for advice..is there any particular desktop charger you would recommend ??
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Like I mentioned twice already: http://www.amazon.it/Samsung-EBH-1E...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346297966&sr=8-1-fkmr0
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incisivekeith said:
I think most of the people don't like multiple batteries as that requires popping out the accessory cover/case AND the phone cover every single time to swap the battery.
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Turning the phone off, swapping batteries and turning the phone on takes all of 30 sec.
Now compare 30 seconds to keeping your phone "on a leash" every single day for 2-3 HOURS to a wall charger... and you call THAT "tedious"????
As for cases, I have NEVER used cases on any of my phones (hate them for all the reasons listed again below) so I won't comment on that other than noting that you talk about cases but with bigger batteries you can't use cases AT ALL so that's just another disadvantage of bigger than original batteries!
Poof course, the batteries and their chargers need to be carried around too. All this is tedious and most don't like this inconvenience, so they prefer a battery with higher mAh instead of multiple batteries.
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Just the batteries, of course (you take with you however many you may need), what would be the reason for carrying around the chargers??
You charge your battery/batteries once you get back home.
An extended battery will NEVER last as long as just 2 original batteries (besides making it fatter, heavier, uncomfortable, not dockable etc) and with multiple batteries you can cover completely whatever you need to do with your smartphone even for short multi-day complete trips. Imagine being out camping, with extended batteries you would have to bring with you heavy external batteries anyway to which you would ALSO have to keep your Note tethered to for hours to recharge...
Very long trips? Of course you take the battery charger (very slim and light BTW and doubles as a stand to boot) with you, exactly like you would have to take your normal charger with external batteries.
There is no real point AGAINST additional batteries and there are PLENTY FOR IT.
It's a no brainer for any poweruser (i.e. anyone who actually NEEDS and USES smartphones...).
I'm always testing out new types of chargers but i agree, official charger and then one or two spare batteries - no more battery anxiety
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LordManhattan said:
There's a reason why we read those articles about exploding devices.
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what about those iphones that exploded? they dont have removable batteries
hi,
I look on ebay and I found this 3000mah battery compliant with the seller according nexus 5 but the question is, is it really consistent?,the same dimensions or?
I saw this info on the frandroid french forum and a member has ordered this battery to test
but I wanted the opinion of the members of xda
thanks
Might be helpful if you put a link up to the listing
DroidOFr said:
hi,
I look on ebay and I found this 3000mah battery compliant with the seller according nexus 5 but the question is, is it really consistent?,the same dimensions or?
I saw this info on the frandroid french forum and a member has ordered this battery to test
but I wanted the opinion of the members of xda
thanks
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You mean this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fit-battery...-32GB-Optimus-G2-P693-VS980-new-/181252568908
I couldn't find any site to give dimensions on it. Appearance-wise it looks right, but I guess we won't know until someone slaps it in and tests it.
I can't find it on eBay by myself... Thanks for the link.
Wouldn't risk buying and using it though..
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Might be helpful if you put a link up to the listing
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I found this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fit-battery...68908?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item2a337eb74c
Says 3000mah but not sure how well it would fair.
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You mean this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fit-battery...-32GB-Optimus-G2-P693-VS980-new-/181252568908
I couldn't find any site to give dimensions on it. Appearance-wise it looks right, but I guess we won't know until someone slaps it in and tests it.
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The battery has part number LG BL-T7. This is the battery that is in the G2 i believe. Also it has already been confirmed the G2 battery is not the same dimensions so it will not fit our N5's.
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I found this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fit-battery...68908?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item2a337eb74c
Says 3000mah but not sure how well it would fair.
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The battery has part number LG BL-T7. This is the battery that is in the G2 i believe. Also it has already been confirmed the G2 battery is not the same dimensions so it will not fit our N5's.
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Yep, didn't notice the BL-T7 before you pointed it out. That said the issue with the T7 was the stepped design that made it thicker. This one appears flat like the T9 that comes in the N5. So there is a possibility if the stepped design wasn't used that the battery could fit.
Personally I have no battery issues, the thing lasts all day for me and then some. However if I ever did have battery issues it would be nice to know there was something to upgrade to.
Seems like too much trouble for a phone that doesn't really have battery problems anyway.
Caelrie said:
Seems like too much trouble for a phone that doesn't really have battery problems anyway.
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Just because you and I and some others have no issues doesn't mean there's not legions of others who do. Like I said, I have no issues despite medium use, but I know many people that use their phones differently than I who need a beefier battery. Seeing as how it's not too terribly difficult to get to the battery, if there is a 3000mah one that works with our phones, why not let those people who need it use it?
You and I are most assuredly in the minority of people with no battery issues though, of that I'm certain.
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Just because you and I and some others have no issues doesn't mean there's not legions of others who do. Like I said, I have no issues despite medium use, but I know many people that use their phones differently than I who need a beefier battery. Seeing as how it's not too terribly difficult to get to the battery, if there is a 3000mah one that works with our phones, why not let those people who need it use it?
You and I are most assuredly in the minority of people with no battery issues though, of that I'm certain.
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But for those people who do need more battery, what's a 3000mah really going to do? Give you another couple hours? They'd be better served getting an external battery that would double their phone time and still only be the size of a tube of lipstick rather than tear their phones apart and void their warranties.
Caelrie said:
But for those people who do need more battery, what's a 3000mah really going to do? Give you another couple hours? They'd be better served getting an external battery that would double their phone time and still only be the size of a tube of lipstick rather than tear their phones apart and void their warranties.
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I don't disagree with you, but just playing with numbers, if the phone lasts 10 hours with the 2300, then it would be over 13 hours with a 3000, could be the difference between finding a charger mid day and not worrying about it. For some people the few hours is all the difference so why carry around a charger when you only need a few more?
Again though, I don't disagree with you, it's just that with the immense diversity in the way people use their phones, there isn't an easy solution to apply to all. For some the stock is good, for some a couple extra hours is what they need, and for others they'll need an external battery pack, just all depends on the user and their needs.
Caelrie said:
But for those people who do need more battery, what's a 3000mah really going to do? Give you another couple hours? They'd be better served getting an external battery that would double their phone time and still only be the size of a tube of lipstick rather than tear their phones apart and void their warranties.
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Better ask yourself why Google doesn't want you to change the battery.
For me a changeable battery is a must-have. I'm a heavy user, and this is my first Nexus device (since Samsung Galaxies und HTCs). Since it does not have a changeable battery I'm using now a anker power bank which charges the Nexus5 pretty fast. But this does it hurt my Nexus battery? What if my Nexus battery is crap? Looking at my old S3 und old HTC devices this happend to me.
Looks like the seller is under the impression that the nexus 5 32gb came with a 3000mah battery like some of the rumors suggested. My guess is that the seller isn't up to date with his information. I highly doubt this battery fits......but if someone wants to go for it be my guest and report back please :laugh::laugh::laugh::good::good:
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Looks like the seller is under the impression that the nexus 5 32gb came with a 3000mah battery like some of the rumors suggested. My guess is that the seller isn't up to date with his information. I highly doubt this battery fits......but if someone wants to go for it be my guest and report back please :laugh::laugh::laugh::good::good:
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found this:
http://www.cameronsino.com/UpdateInformation.aspx?date=10/19/2013&date0=10/11/2013&flag=1
yet they call it is a "T7"... not a T9 like Nex5 needs....
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Looks like the seller is under the impression that the nexus 5 32gb came with a 3000mah battery like some of the rumors suggested. My guess is that the seller isn't up to date with his information. I highly doubt this battery fits......but if someone wants to go for it be my guest and report back please :laugh::laugh::laugh::good::good:
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This was my thoughts too.
As for the others saying 3000mah wouldn't be worth the swap should watch the iFixit teardown. It is stupid simple to do a 1 time swap. Also my battery generally last the whole day but i have had a few where i needed to plug it in to keep it form prematurely dying on me when i needed to use it. I am a guy that likes to have as little items as possible. I have 2 keys on my key ring, my car, and my house, no bling keychains. So carrying a external power bank is my last choice. While at work i just plug it in when needed, which has been never so far. But on weekends is where i find it falling short as i tend to use the phone more.
tagging along
The problem is going to be, even if someone does make a battery that is compatible with the Nexus 5, its going to be some no name Chinese battery and it will never actually live up to the mah rating that its sold as. So even if they do sell a "3000 mah" battery for the Nexus 5, it would be amazing if the real rating of the battery was even 2500mah. Unless these no name battery companies have really upped their game in the last year or two, they almost never actually deliver the battery capacities that they list.
I personally wouldn't buy batteries from ebay. Too much risk for the amount of savings. Best case scenario is that it doesn't hold the stated charge, worse case is that it explodes on you like so many reports have indicated with people using no name third party accessories.
sorry the link
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/frandroidlink/390694643606?clk_rvr_id=546948030295
I've bought two different OEM batteries made in China for my netbook and both are poor quality despite the manufacturer's claims. Unfortunately I could not find any Japanese or Korean cells. I'm not going to gamble on putting an OEM battery inside my Nexus.
Lol. Larger capacity batteries, and in original size? There's no official manufacturer and can only be bought from ebay? Sounds like the various ones mentioned in the other flagship forums, like the S4. The story usually turns out the same. Someone baits desperate readers in, then when buyers get it, a bunch of them come back saying they don't see a difference despite advertised of being +25% larger, calling it a fraud. Buy only if you are susceptible to the placebo affect.
Hey people,
New to wireless charging here, my girlfriend just bought a wireless charger for my birthday. Just one question, when you are charging and you need to use the phone, should I pick it up or leave it there and try to use? I mean, if I keep picking it up to use, wouldn't the constant charging/stopping damage the battery? Please help me out!
Thank you!
jackhayden said:
Hey people,
New to wireless charging here, my girlfriend just bought a wireless charger for my birthday. Just one question, when you are charging and you need to use the phone, should I pick it up or leave it there and try to use? I mean, if I keep picking it up to use, wouldn't the constant charging/stopping damage the battery? Please help me out!
Thank you!
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No, it's fine. Pick it up as many times as you want. I have different wireless pads scattered throughout my house, office and car, that it will not "hurt" it.
It's probably fine. But if by constant you mean literally every 5 seconds then maybe not.
Also there's a xposed mod to disable the sound every time you put it on the pad if they annoy you too constantly.
BTW it'd be great if I had a techy girlfriend
thanks for the comments guys
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No, it's fine. Pick it up as many times as you want. I have different wireless pads scattered throughout my house, office and car, that it will not "hurt" it.
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uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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AFAIK li-ion batteries does not suffer from any memory effect and they even last longer when kept charged. Battery charge cycles are still there as an indicator of the goodness of the battery from the manufacturer but they are related to a full cycle (eg how much current passes through the battery) but smaller charging cycles shouldn't be counted as full.
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I want to buy a wireless charger but I need some advices ^^
What's the best charger for you guys ? I mean what's the more efficient charger, the official from the Google play or others ?
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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Well I had my phone since released and before that used my Nexus 4 and used wireless chargers since then. You mean to tell me we all need EE degrees to use/charge our phones?
Just use the pads no need to "worry" about the battery. In some instances batteries will need replacement, but many replace their devices well before you see an issue.
I don't want to go to e-war about batteries. I am just going by personal experience. I have my N4 still, which my wife uses and still uses charging pad still no issues there either.
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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Could you provide some references for our edification? I admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject but my understanding is that charge cycling is bad at or near full charge. I don't know that this a problem at lower charge levels (let's say <90%).
I don't have an EE degree but from what I understand newer batteries cycles are a full charge from 0-100. I read something on apples' website explaining this. So charging it twice from 50-100 would be one cycle.
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AFAIK li-ion batteries does not suffer from any memory effect and they even last longer when kept charged. Battery charge cycles are still there as an indicator of the goodness of the battery from the manufacturer but they are related to a full cycle (eg how much current passes through the battery) but smaller charging cycles shouldn't be counted as full.
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noppppppeeeeeeee, left at full charge lose 20% of capacity after 1 year. see:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
You might be right about the charge cycles, as most things seem to relate to amount of power transferred through the battery, and not 'depth of discharge" but honestly many people I've met who plug their phones in all the time to top up, end up having to get the battery replaced after a year. Apple product, ok no problem they do it free for like 2 years; but I've done nothing but run my batteries all the way down every time and slowcharge every night on USB-500mA (gentler current, kinder to battery, cooler temps, and even a slightly more thorough charge) (just 5% POSSIBLY 10% it's hard to say...probably 5%...I guess I should test this)
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Well I had my phone since released and before that used my Nexus 4 and used wireless chargers since then. You mean to tell me we all need EE degrees to use/charge our phones?
Just use the pads no need to "worry" about the battery. In some instances batteries will need replacement, but many replace their devices well before you see an issue.
I don't want to go to e-war about batteries. I am just going by personal experience. I have my N4 still, which my wife uses and still uses charging pad still no issues there either.
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EE to charge? No, I'm just saying you might want to think twice before picking up 20 times a day from the pad. Better to get MightyText for when you're at your PC/work to text with.
the google charging pad IS better I would have less issues charging on one of those. However, I'm a cheapie, and use $10 chargers, which heat my phone usually to 40C for a full 0%-100% charge. Not best, but I have resigned myself to the reality of potentially replacing the battery in 18 months if I want the convenience of charging pads everywhere. You might wish to think this way as well. Also, after 18 months, maybe you could just charge it at every opportunity (at that point, who cares, you only need it for another 18 months probably) and that would be enough.
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but honestly many people I've met who plug their phones in all the time to top up, end up having to get the battery replaced after a year.
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All I know is since 1998 I charge my phones to 100% as often as I can find a charging device. I am the only one on my family plan of 5(the others run battery down daily to~30% or more) that doesn't replace their battery before their next upgrade. So my motto is *Top up every chance you get*.
Wiley_11 said:
All I know is since 1998 I charge my phones to 100% as often as I can find a charging device. I am the only one on my family plan of 5(the others run battery down daily to~30% or more) that doesn't replace their battery before their next upgrade. So my motto is *Top up every chance you get*.
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that's encouraging to hear I've never heard that before.
5pik3 said:
I want to buy a wireless charger but I need some advices ^^
What's the best charger for you guys ? I mean what's the more efficient charger, the official from the Google play or others ?
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Bought this for just 8,33 euro shipped (9.99 $) and works like a charm! :good:
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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I don't think we need a degree in EE... All you need to know about batteries is in this place: http://batteryuniversity.com/
Go a take a look at let those "dogmas" change.
Peace.
JeckaD said:
I don't think we need a degree in EE... All you need to know about batteries is in this place: http://batteryuniversity.com/
Go a take a look at let those "dogmas" change.
Peace.
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like I said-- Battery University also has applicable degrees
thor1k said:
noppppppeeeeeeee, left at full charge lose 20% of capacity after 1 year. see:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
You might be right about the charge cycles, as most things seem to relate to amount of power transferred through the battery, and not 'depth of discharge" but honestly many people I've met who plug their phones in all the time to top up, end up having to get the battery replaced after a year. Apple product, ok no problem they do it free for like 2 years; but I've done nothing but run my batteries all the way down every time and slowcharge every night on USB-500mA (gentler current, kinder to battery, cooler temps, and even a slightly more thorough charge) (just 5% POSSIBLY 10% it's hard to say...probably 5%...I guess I should test this)
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EE to charge? No, I'm just saying you might want to think twice before picking up 20 times a day from the pad. Better to get MightyText for when you're at your PC/work to text with.
the google charging pad IS better I would have less issues charging on one of those. However, I'm a cheapie, and use $10 chargers, which heat my phone usually to 40C for a full 0%-100% charge. Not best, but I have resigned myself to the reality of potentially replacing the battery in 18 months if I want the convenience of charging pads everywhere. You might wish to think this way as well. Also, after 18 months, maybe you could just charge it at every opportunity (at that point, who cares, you only need it for another 18 months probably) and that would be enough.
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Not sure if it makes a difference but nexus 5 uses newer li-po batteries not li-ion.
My device has 2 weeks and was charged only 6 or 7 times, but AccuBattery reports that my battery has capacity of 2800 mAh instead of expected 3000 mAh, which gives 93% health.
I know that these are only estimates, but at my previous device, Xperia Z it was very close to official specification (99%).
Should I worry about my OnePlus and already submit a warranty ticket, or maybe battery in this phone is really that weak? Might someone post his results from this or similar app?
Bought my op3 and it's measuring less than 2800MAh, I'm getting pretty good battery life so I don't know if the app is just not accurate or what.
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EP2008 said:
Bought my op3 and it's measuring less than 2800MAh, I'm getting pretty good battery life so I don't know if the app is just not accurate or what.
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Ok, thanks for info. I hope that app itself really can't measure it precisely and it's not OnePlus way to achieve shorter charging times for DashCharge, a marketing purpose
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My device has 2 weeks and was charged only 6 or 7 times, but AccuBattery reports that my battery has capacity of 2800 mAh instead of expected 3000 mAh, which gives 93% health.
I know that these are only estimates, but at my previous device, Xperia Z it was very close to official specification (99%).
Should I worry about my OnePlus and already submit a warranty ticket, or maybe battery in this phone is really that weak? Might someone post his results from this or similar app?
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For me it is showing 2600mah
sandeeppathak007 said:
For me it is showing 2600mah
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Maybe AccuBattery detects wrong amps during charging/discharging per 1%. I think that's how it estimates total battery capacity. At least I hope so.
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Maybe AccuBattery detects wrong amps during charging/discharging per 1%. I think that's how it estimates total battery capacity. At least I hope so.
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Yeah I hope so anyways I am able to get about a day of battery backup with normal usage so it's fine
What about today? The same health? This is a scary topic.
2771mAh for me. Don't expect an app to be able to do these calculations accurately. My battery is still fine.
Anyway, there something strange here, i can't find any replacement battery for OP3 with the "original mAh" i found only 2450mAh in any site that i search for it.
Guys. Have u seen the teardown video. Battery can be replace like withing 5 minutes. I was concerned at first cause im olanning on keeping my device for a year or more. But this is one of the easier device to repair if something goes bad
eduardmc said:
Guys. Have u seen the teardown video. Battery can be replace like withing 5 minutes. I was concerned at first cause im olanning on keeping my device for a year or more. But this is one of the easier device to repair if something goes bad
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That's right, but, can you find the original replacement? i can't found it.
felipondrioxcl said:
Anyway, there something strange here, i can't find any replacement battery for OP3 with the "original mAh" i found only 2450mAh in any site that i search for it.
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As far as I know OnePlus is NOT selling their parts. The only way you'll get genuine replacement parts is by sending the phone to official service center.
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Explorer23 said:
As far as I know OnePlus is NOT selling their parts. The only way you'll get genuine replacement parts is by sending the phone to official service center.
Sent from my OnePlus 3 using Tapatalk
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Hmmm....I'm watching the forum here, trying to decide whether to get an OP3 (T)...
This is definitely one tick in the negative column.
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Hmmm....I'm watching the forum here, trying to decide whether to get an OP3 (T)...
This is definitely one tick in the negative column.
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Yeah, that part is less than ideal ...
But otherwise the phone itself is great - and fairly cheap for what it offers. Plus the community support is on "Nexus" level.
I'd go for it (again) ?
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Hmmm....I'm watching the forum here, trying to decide whether to get an OP3 (T)...
This is definitely one tick in the negative column.
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Don't get scared about that issue. My OP works great even without 3000mAh, I easily can get 5 days of standby, with normal usage, only with turned off phone at night
Edit: Maybe easily is too much said, I use 50% pixel filter and Efficiency battery mode, then OP consumes 20% battery per day. But even without it you can still get 3-4 days, with some calls and photos made, plus some time spent on the Feedly
I remember that when the S9 series made it's debut, Samsung claimed their batteries would degrade more slowly over time than the competition, even to the extent of claiming only 5% loss of total charge in the first year vs the 15%-20% that you can expect from pretty much everyone else. Now that the phone is a year old, has anybody been monitoring your real capacity with an app like Accubattery to determine whether this can be confirmed or not? I do not have an S9, but I was thinking of switching to Samsung when the 10 series is released soon if they were truthful with their claims of more resilient batteries, so thanks for whatever results you can share.
And you believe that app will actually know the truth?
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And you believe that app will actually know the truth?
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I know it will give a better estimate than the original claimed capacity because it degrades over time
I do. I generally charge as all those articles and AccuBattery suggest that is trying to keep the battery from extremes, usually charging 40-90%. And now AccuBattery says my battery after 7,5 months is at 82% its original capacity. I would like not to believe that but in actuality I see the battery is not really good as I barely make it through the day with medium usage (usually some 3h SOT and I actually have few apps and use the phone for communication and reading mostly). That anxiety makes me think of switching to Oneplus 6T - though I would miss wireless charging I value the lack of battery anxiety (guess that is a psychological term already ) more. I know I could just replace the battery, but it was average at best even when new so no point.
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I know it will give a better estimate than the original claimed capacity because it degrades over time
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And how does it know how much it degrades? Does it know the chemistry of the battery in the s9? Its a guesstimate, nothing more.
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I do. I generally charge as all those articles and AccuBattery suggest that is trying to keep the battery from extremes, usually charging 40-90%. And now AccuBattery says my battery after 7,5 months is at 82% its original capacity. I would like not to believe that but in actuality I see the battery is not really good as I barely make it through the day with medium usage (usually some 3h SOT and I actually have few apps and use the phone for communication and reading mostly). That anxiety makes me think of switching to Oneplus 6T - though I would miss wireless charging I value the lack of battery anxiety (guess that is a psychological term already ) more. I know I could just replace the battery, but it was average at best even when new so no point.
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Thanks for the feedback, I'm not surprised the term has come into use. I probably sound like some kind of conspiracy nut but I am sure the manufacturers design the phones with planned obsolescence in mind by only giving them the minimum amount of battery they can squeeze since they will go down the toilet over time anyway. I'm on verizon but I was thinking of switching to the moto g7 power edition when it comes out for the same reason, especially considering how samsung seems to have lied outright about their supposed better battery longevity.
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And how does it know how much it degrades? Does it know the chemistry of the battery in the s9? Its a guesstimate, nothing more.
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For a self proclaimed "provider of experienced replies", you really don't know what you are talking about. You don't need to sample the battery chemistry, the current the battery provides over it's charge cycles are what is necessary. The app takes approximations of it to determine how much current output it can sustain over time and that is it. Sure it isn't a 100% accurate but I'll take it over a the nay-saying ramblings of a whiner on this forum any day.
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Thanks for the feedback, I'm not surprised the term has come into use. I probably sound like some kind of conspiracy nut but I am sure the manufacturers design the phones with planned obsolescence in mind by only giving them the minimum amount of battery they can squeeze since they will go down the toilet over time anyway. I'm on verizon but I was thinking of switching to the moto g7 power edition when it comes out for the same reason, especially considering how samsung seems to have lied outright about their supposed better battery longevity.
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Unfortunately that's what it seems and it's a great shame really as S9 is pretty much a complete package in my eyes. Anyway, it seems I might be selling it and gonna miss the heartrate monitor and One UI (really liking it), but pumping the phone's battery 2 times per day is not for me in this day and age and that after only 7,5 months of usage Next try S11 maybe.
As for AccuBattery method - from what I understand it measures the current flow when charging and compares it to the percentage of battery charged. This way it knows e.g. that the battery got 40% charge over 1000 MaH charged which would mean (as in my case) that the battery's max capacity would be around 2500. Of course it's not perfectly accurate but it makes sanse and shows you the direction the battery goes. Ah.