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Acer replacement/spare parts?

Hi all, my refurbished tab suddenly decided to stop charging, so I'm looking to see where I can get spare parts for it? Either the battery, the charger, and/or the AC-in port are bad. I already contacted the vendor, and it's still in the 90 day period... but I wanted to have a back up plan.
For argument's sake, The original charger seems dead, I connect it and nothing. I have a car charger, plugged into a DC-AC adapter that starts to charge it briefly, but then it starts acting crazy (it rapidly changes from charging to not charging). I think the AC port might be messed up since there's a faint smell of burned circuits when I sniff the little "port" (was going to use hole )
The tab does turn on, and if I leave it connected to the DC charger it should eventually charge (it charged about 3% with the tab off in about 4 hours).
Ideally I will get a positive response from the vendor (only reason I haven't opened the tab up), but as I said, I rather have a backup plan.

I'm sorry but did you say you kept charging it even after sniffing its (I'll do it) hole and smelling burning? I hope I Mis understood that part. However to offer some kind of help, do you smell anything using the stock charger, and have you wiggled it at all to see if it picks up? Also I would check that other adapter output, 12v and 1.5a iirc. Lower may account for the switching of charging and not, also slow charging. To high may be the smell and you toasting your tablet.
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Yes I did try to charge it after I smelled the burning. I only noticed that the tab wasn't charging when I heard it whine about low battery even though it was still connected. I then tried plugging it in, and out multiple times and wiggling the connector about to see if it would make proper contact. By the time I got around to sniffing stuff, if something were going to happen I'm sure it would have happened, but just in case I haven't pushed the issue with the stock charger, though it's pretty clear it's as dead as a sexually active teenager in a Friday the 13th movie.
I'm actually tempted to buy a replacement charger if I find one around locally; I'm not going to order it online and wait for "X" amount of days.
In any case, I got enough of a charge to restore it to stock ICS, no unlocked bootloader, no root.... *SIGH* these things are really NOT fun in their stock state.

OK...one last thing to check....the charger has 2 parts on the wall plug side. There's a tab you push down and the blades slide off, under that on the plug side will be 2 metal tabs, check those. I don't know if you had to put that on when you got it, but its something worth checking out. Maybe lightly pull the tabs up, don't get crazy just a little, slide the blades back on and give it a shot.
I would suggest checking the middle pin, however it takes a charge from the other charger you tried, so I doubt that's it, but maybe something worth checking anyways.
I know this isn't the point of the thread, but why replace if its a simple fix?
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masr1979 said:
Hi all, my refurbished tab suddenly decided to stop charging, so I'm looking to see where I can get spare parts for it? Either the battery, the charger, and/or the AC-in port are bad. I already contacted the vendor, and it's still in the 90 day period... but I wanted to have a back up plan.
For argument's sake, The original charger seems dead, I connect it and nothing. I have a car charger, plugged into a DC-AC adapter that starts to charge it briefly, but then it starts acting crazy (it rapidly changes from charging to not charging). I think the AC port might be messed up since there's a faint smell of burned circuits when I sniff the little "port" (was going to use hole )
The tab does turn on, and if I leave it connected to the DC charger it should eventually charge (it charged about 3% with the tab off in about 4 hours).
Ideally I will get a positive response from the vendor (only reason I haven't opened the tab up), but as I said, I rather have a backup plan.
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If you smelt a burnt smell coming from the tablet power port i would not recommend using it and replace it. The charger port is available on ebay as i was searching for other things for this tablet.

Well tried to inspect the charger... the thing looks brand new (well it is only a month old) pins are fine, and the contacts look fine as well. Believe me whenever possible I try to fix things more because I just like tinkering with stuff than anything else, but what I was thinking is that while I'm messing around with that I won't be able to use the tab. I will admit that messing around with power sources/adapters/etc isn't my strong suit... but that makes it even more exciting LOL!
dslayer83, I guess my searching skills have been found wanting. Before posting anything I did some searches but could not find anything through google, or ebay. Just about the only thing I found was the vache's thread where he uploaded the service manual, which has a slew of part #s, but sadly google searches for the parts that interest me don't turn up much.
In any case, I was contacted by the seller today asking if I wanted a refund or a replacement, so maybe I won't have to resort to plan"B". Still curious as to what the hell happened that made the tab go crazy, this is the first time I've had what appear to be hardware related issues with any of my electronics (coming from somebody who owned and abused a 3rd revision PS2, that's quite the statement), so it's all so new. Oh well, guess I'll ignore my curiosity this one time.
Thanks guys.

I would exchange it for sure. Or return, up to you. Aside from battery life and learning to use the screen around that 1 horrid angle, this tab has been amazing, coming.from a nook color to nook tab to kindle fire to a100. For 7" I'm not sure anything comes close for the money.
As for what happened, its hard to say. Could be something stuck in the port burned off, the charger wasn't regulating properly before it died, any number of things. The tab seems alright aside from hole sniffing and charging...anyways if you plan to exchange, make sure you get a new charger too.
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pio_masaki said:
I would exchange it for sure. Or return, up to you. Aside from battery life and learning to use the screen around that 1 horrid angle, this tab has been amazing, coming.from a nook color to nook tab to kindle fire to a100. For 7" I'm not sure anything comes close for the money.
As for what happened, its hard to say. Could be something stuck in the port burned off, the charger wasn't regulating properly before it died, any number of things. The tab seems alright aside from hole sniffing and charging...anyways if you plan to exchange, make sure you get a new charger too.
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Ditto on the return or exchange. Why tempt to repair something that can be replaced. I love my a100 and its the first tablet ive owned and only paid $80 for it. I know i got my money worth out of it already.

pio_masaki, you like this tab more than the Nook Tablet? I don't particularly like the design, but I thought the NT would be the better tablet... then again that just might be because I'm not a die hard Nvidia fan. I know I definitely like it better than the Kindle Fire since I've dealt with those (no SDCARD?... who came up with that?) I do agree though, that for what I paid nothing comes remotely close... though I paid $100 more than dslayer83 (lucky bastard).
Anyways, yeah I'm going for the exchange. If the seller was going to start giving me too much grief I was ready to repair it myself, but they seem to be complying so maybe there will be no need.

It doesn't really have anything to do with me liking nvidia, actually I don't care for nvidia for a few reasons, however the performance and price can't be beat. The nook tablet is just a bootloader locked color with dual core, imo not worth its price. The a100 is a true tablet, cameras, GPS, etc for the same price new.vs new last I looked. Plus now that ics dropped the sources will propel the a100 way beyond the others for performance and rom/kernel deving.
When I had the NT they could only root the stock, no cwm or custom roms available, it may be different now,but for me and what I want from my devices the a100 couldn't be beat. The fire would be second for me, my mom uses it now and it runs fine on ics for the most part.
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Sorry didn't mean to imply you where an nvidia fan, just that I don't really like them and usually go out of my way to evade them, whenever possible. That said, I just think the Ti chips on the NT and the Fire is better than the Tegra2, plus I hear wonders about the NT screen which I will say is the one area that the A100 didn't really feel great (despite me saying that the Ti chips are better I'm in no way complaining about this tabs power, not by a long shot). It looks super indoors but outdoors it's closed to impossible to read; still that's not a biggie.
Tomorrow I'm sending it back to get replaced, so fingers crossed I get a replacement by the end of next week, or sooner
On a side note, last I checked the NT had CWM, CM9 and the whole thing, though CM9 didn't seem like it wasn't at the daily driver level. I think devs were concentrating on porting the 3.0 kernel to it. I was really interested in getting one, but due to it's shape it wasn't a good fit with what I needed.

I completely agree on the nvidia thing, I have quite a beef about their drivers, also a laptop that has burned out 3 $600 replacement video cards, the last took the motherboard with it. That aside, for my money the t2 offered the performance I wanted vs price and.development at the time. I'm glad they cracked.open the NT, its going to be a very tough unit to beat once 3.0 gets going on it.
Im pro TI by far, and my next phone will likely be one sporting their hardware, or rather anything not tegra like my g2x. The a100 certainly fails screen wise, and if I decide to move from my Acer the NT is definitely on the list again.
Back on topic I'm glad to hear the seller is stepping up and handling business in a professional manner, so many stories about sellers flaking on their products makes hearing of a good one kind of rare. If you don't mind, who did you go through? It may help others looking for a good deal and a seller they can trust will do the right thing.
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masr1979 said:
though I paid $100 more than dslayer83 (lucky bastard).
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Heh, well i work in a cellphone repair shop and we buy and sell as well. I see plenty of knock offs come through the door but this puppy was well worth the buy. Im enjoying exploring what all i can do with it. Already using my Infuse wireless hotspot for its internet when im not around wifi. Might just get a car mount and use it for long trips for gps instead of tying up my phone.

pio_masaki said:
...Back on topic I'm glad to hear the seller is stepping up and handling business in a professional manner, so many stories about sellers flaking on their products makes hearing of a good one kind of rare. If you don't mind, who did you go through? It may help others looking for a good deal and a seller they can trust will do the right thing.
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I'm also hoping to get a phone using TI hardware in the future, but since I'll probably be going to republic wireless in a few months my options will be limited... *SIGH* In the mean time I'm probably buying a pandaboard at some point, though I'm not even sure for exactly what yet. I'd use it for an htpc, but I'm going to use a Raspberry Pi I'm supposed to be getting in June to run XBMC, maybe I'll just shove the pandaboard, instead of the a100, in the car, so many plans, so little money to do them all LOL!
Anyways, the seller is 1saleaday down side it's not a constant stock thing, they'll have deals for well... 1 day. A lot of the times their electronics are refurbished, but despite that everything that I've ordered has come to me looking not "like" new, but brand spanking new. This tablet in particular was refurbished by Acer themselves according to a little label... and while it did crap out, I'm perfectly aware that "sh*t happens". On the topic of shiesty sellers, my attitude until I heard from them should indicate what I think about most stores and their services, but glad to be pleasantly surprised this time.
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Heh, well i work in a cellphone repair shop and we buy and sell as well. I see plenty of knock offs come through the door but this puppy was well worth the buy. Im enjoying exploring what all i can do with it. Already using my Infuse wireless hotspot for its internet when im not around wifi. Might just get a car mount and use it for long trips for gps instead of tying up my phone.
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Well I'm not hating dude more power to you if you can get cheap toys... still that only further reiterates my previous statement... lucky bastard (LOL)

I'm considering a rpi for the bedroom, but the living room has an atv1 with Ubuntu and a crystal decoder for HD playback and the other bedroom an atv2 both running xbmc, been running since my dash on my Xbox lol. Glad to meet another user. Now if only I could get xbmc for my tablets....
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I'm considering a rpi for the bedroom, but the living room has an atv1 with Ubuntu and a crystal decoder for HD playback and the other bedroom an atv2 both running xbmc, been running since my dash on my Xbox lol. Glad to meet another user. Now if only I could get xbmc for my tablets....
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That would be epic... but in the mean time it's cool using the tab as a control

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That would be epic... but in the mean time it's cool using the tab as a control
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Yeah the tab does make a very nice remote lol
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Note 7 recall & media distributed information

When you look into the Note 7 recall and all of the information we have available, you have news outlets taking a biased point of view on the units. They have put words into both Samsung and the CPSC's mouth saying that the recalls are MANDATORY, that the Note 7 production has been permanently halted, and that the issue is the battery itself. In the meantime, Samsung themselves have announced that they CANNOT replicate the issue themselves, and the changing out of the battery would generally suggest that it was not the battery causing the problem. Plus, due to media coverage the issue has been severely exaggerated. According to the CPSC, only 96 units out of 1.9 million units sold in the US have been reported as overheating. In the two months since the release of the phone that is a 0.005% failure rate. That means the phone has a 99.995% chance of being perfectly fine. In terms of normal production, that would be considered a success by most companies. Samsung also has not announced anywhere on their site that production has been halted permenantly. They've said temporarily while they investigate. The investigation is NOT COMPLETE.
Now, if you take the battery out of the equation as the primary point of failure, there are three other points of possible failure that would be the most common cause to make the battery ignite. Those are software tampering, hardware tampering/error and the USB-C port/accessories.
Software: a partially flashed firmware could easily damage the charge rate systems to cause damage to the battery itself or damage the battery's protection board to the point where it can cause problems.
Hardware Tampering/Error: How many idiots have you seen on youtube sinking their Note7s to the bottom of a lake/river/pier, or drop testing them from heights that they are not rated for. Then count the # of people who replicate what other people do on youtube.. (Ghost pepper challenges anyone?)
USB-C Port/Accessories: USB-C has been under some controversy itself lately. Cheap USB cables have been sold that when used on devices damage not only the USB-C port, but also the power systems due to the cables being improperly wired. As well, the Note7 comes with USB-C accessories, one of which is a USB-A to a USB-C port adapter. This is used to use the unit AS a backup battery, or to attach flash drives to the unit and NOT to charge the unit. Many people have USB-A to USB-A cables. Imagine if someone used one of the faulty USB-C cables to charge the unit, or tried to use that adapter with a USB-A to USB-A cable to charge the unit. With only 96 cases reported of overheating, it's well within the number of people who don't understand technology enough to get the proper cables and/or use the unit up to spec. If the cable is not CERTIFIED by the USB-IF it could very well be a bad cable and have caused the issue.
What I'm saying here is look at the proof, look at the history of the devices you're attaching to the phone, look at human behavior, look at what the media's doing. We have people in this world who actually think TRUMP would make a good president. We have people in this world who snort condoms up their noses. It makes it completely possible that all 96 reported cases are 96 cases of users doing the wrong thing with their phones. It is very likely that out of 1.9 Million units sold in the US (according to CPSC), 96 of the people who bought Note 7s are simply idiots. (Plus there's a video of an idiot supposedly holding a Note 7 while the phone is catching fire. When a LI-Ion Battery overheats you can't hold it. not in your hands without receiving severe burns. Information below attached so you can see it all directly from the sources for the information on the Note 7 instead of from media locations.
Also, don't forget, some of these people with the phones who have overheated REFUSE to return them to Samsung for investigation. There is only one reason to refuse to turn in a destroyed device. If you tampered with it yourself.
Samsung Recall Info (showing its voluntary): http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
Verizon Recall Info (showing they're still investigating as of 10/10): https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-note7-recall-faqs/
CPSC Information: https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2017/S...-Additional-Incidents-with-Replacement-Phones
USB-C Cable Information: http://www.androidcentral.com/usb-c-problem-isnt-going-away-anytime-soon
More USB-C Info: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-find-safe-usb-type-c-cables
Update: Just spoke with a supervisor at Verizon, and they are AWARE that this is a blown out of proportion recall and issue. As of the current moment, they are supporting the phone INDEFINITELY, until Samsung verifies what the problem is and completes the investigation. Then depending on the investigation result, they will decide what to do. I encourage people to call their carriers and talk to supervisors who have more information.

I ansolutely agree with you, around 100 devices in 2 million +, is better than many other quality standards around, and as you pointed out, many people handle devices in very bad ways

Well said. This is why I'm not getting rid of mine. BTW, you accidently put billion instead of million the first time.
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Maybe the whole thing is a conspiracy by another company like LG or Apple. Paying people to do this to their phones then paying the media to overhype and overexaterate the whole thing. I don't think it's a coincidence this happened to the best phone Samsung has ever made. Let me rephrase that, the best phone ever created.

Think about this, how rediculous would it be if samsung found out it was an uncertified cable causing the entire problem, and that they took a multi-billion dollar loss over the cable. This is why all of this crap should not be happening until the investigation concludes.

Updated first post with: Also, don't forget, some of these people with the phones who have overheated REFUSE to return them to Samsung for investigation. There is only one reason to refuse to turn in a destroyed device. If you tampered with it yourself.
Fixed billion replaced with million

Update with information from Verizon in first post.

NOW we're talking! Finally my kinda people! Where have you been the past couple of days? Now the dust is settling and the initial "shock" has subsided people are starting to think with clarity. Excuse the pun, but 'Think Different'
Keep it going, I LIKE this!! I was getting so lonely here getting called a conspiracy nut and such. Thank you my people!

I agree. My phone is perfect and I would keep it except I would like to receive updates and such. At&t told me it has a one year warranty. That I don't have to turn it in. I'm struggling real hard with this. I love this damn phone and nothing else compared to it. I think it's just another case of reefer madness.

My theory is that the playdoh like battery is just in a foil like cover, so it's easily squished. They have mentioned possible assembly problems with squishing it inside the phone being the cause, but I wonder if perhaps a high G drop on a floor might distort it sufficiently that, after a number of charge/discharge cycles, may develop those crystals which will fuse internally between squashed plates causing the battery run away we have all seen.
I doubt it is external to the battery as surely between battery and main phone assembly there will be short circuit protection (generally the metallic canister style batteries have this built in, but with a sealed phone and soft battery, this protection is probably the very first thing the phone battery cable plugs into).
I only dropped my N4 twice, my N7 never (ok, it hit ground inside a Gear VR when my son was being silly), but I have seen others who are far less careful with phones that may have dropped and distorted the battery putty enough to be more prone to internally fusing.
Although at least 2 photos show the phone in (melted) protector cases which should reduce the shock loading, perhaps these ones had the extra squished assembly with the SDI batteries which already had less internal tolerances than the Chinese one?
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Another funny development that was brought up in another thread... The only video of the unit catching fire is a surveillance video from above... where you cannot actually see what device is spewing the smoke. The only reason its believed to be a note 7 is because someone SAID it is.

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finally!! some clarity i have 2 note 7 ... one from the first production and other of the second!... and everything fine ... i never trust samsung chargers..... so i instead use blackberry folding type chargers ... and never experience overheating anything ...

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finally!! some clarity i have 2 note 7 ... one from the first production and other of the second!... and everything fine ... i never trust samsung chargers..... so i instead use blackberry folding type chargers ... and never experience overheating anything ...
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The problem is obviously not the charger. I've charged it many times from below 10% all the way to 100 on the samsung unit, and it has never caused a problem. My best guess is that it wont fail because I am using a certified cable.

Perhaps samsung should go the apple route and put a chip in their chargers so only certified chargers work.
With the invention of fast charging technology it is pretty risky to use cheapies.
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Charging Circuit Blown?

Hi all,
My wife's 5x appears to be very dead. I haven't found any similar issues on this phone or any other so I thought I would share and also see if anyone has advice.
So her battery was low and so my 4 year old says "Let me help you with that Mom, I will go plug it in." A few moments later he says "Hey mom, it isn't working" as he shoves the end of the baby monitor wall wart in and out of the headphone jack. The wife plugs the phone into the correct charger but it doesn't seem to work. She used her phone for a little while longer before the battery died.
Best I can tell putting the 7.5 volts across the headphone jack blew up a circuit in the phone that also charges the battery. I messed with it awhile and the charging screen did come on one time briefly but I haven't seen it since. The USB port had been perfectly fine before.
I took the phone apart to take a look but it didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. It looks like a new motherboard would be needed to fix it and would probably cost more than the phone is worth.
So in summary the only thing that should be plugged into the headphone jack are headphones.
Any advice? Know a magic fix? We are both perfectly happy with our 5x's and had no plans to upgrade. She needs a Fi compatible phone so options are limited. The Moto x4 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade, new pixels are way too much phone and too much money, the old pixels are more than I want to spend for a used phone. I am thinking I will just pick up a used 5x from swappa as they are going cheap and I won't be out much, just worried about getting the BLOD, we have avoided that so far but it scares me more when getting a phone of unknown history. Would I be crazy to buy a used 5x knowing about the potential of the BLOD?
Thanks

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Would I be crazy to buy a used 5x knowing about the potential of the BLOD?
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Not necessarily, LG has been fixing out-of-warranty 5X phones with the bootloop problem. I don't know if they'd extend that courtesy to the 2nd owner of a phone but you can probably find out more by searching the 5X forums for recent posts with "LG repair warranty" in the text.

Thanks,
It looks to be a little bit of a crap shoot if a secondhand warranty will be honored but I think might just do it anyway. At least it is a pretty small investment if it would fail and not be covered under warranty.
I think I will give it a shot on the current phone for the extended warranty also but expect to be quickly shoot down. It was bought through project Fi two years ago but what I've read seems to indicate only the BLOD is being covered by the extended warranty.
I wish there were more options for project fi phones on the budget end. Should I be considering the X4 or second hand 1st Gen pixel?

Make the 3t great again.

Hello,
I use the one plus 3t now for a while as my daily driver, unfortunately with time goes wear on the device. The battery is in poor condition, the charging cable does very easily slip out of the charging port and some things in the navbar has burned into the OLED display (The display thingy is not as important as the rest, so I may keep it, if it is expensive to fix). Is it possible to fix it myself or do I have an expert to repair this stuff (I have never done something like this)? It is still a fast phone with more than enough ram, so I do not want to throw it away. How much would a repair cost for me? I am looking for services and vendors in Germany/central Europe.
Thank you in advance
WasteMatters

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Hello,
I use the one plus 3t now for a while as my daily driver, unfortunately with time goes wear on the device. The battery is in poor condition, the charging cable does very easily slip out of the charging port and some things in the navbar has burned into the OLED display (The display thingy is not as important as the rest, so I may keep it, if it is expensive to fix). Is it possible to fix it myself or do I have an expert to repair this stuff (I have never done something like this)? It is still a fast phone with more than enough ram, so I do not want to throw it away. How much would a repair cost for me? I am looking for services and vendors in Germany/central Europe.
Thank you in advance
WasteMatters
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For the charging cable slipping out, try cleaning the charging socket on the phone with a tooth pick or something pointy and hard. I cleaned it and a lot of jammed up dirt came out. Now my USB cable snaps into the socket again. For other things, good luck

Hello! I got my 3T last summer used from Swappa. It was advertised as "mint/like new" so I was disappointed to find how much wear there was on the device. The backside of the phone had some dot-like things. I suppose scratches from little rocks getting in through the case. The battery health was bad, had roughly 70% ish, don't remember. The cable was in bad shape and the charging port really loose and would loose connection.
So, I got a charging port off eBay. Maybe around $10. A new USB cable for $1 from China, but it's exactly as good as the original, and is fully functional to this day. I got a new housing/backside thing for $10 (China too). Exactly as the original, no issues whatsoever. I got a supposedly "extended" 3700mAh battery from china. That was a big fat lie. I got a refund. The battery in truth was 3000mAh. I'm still using it, I don't mind. Finding a good battery is either too much trouble or too expensive.
So, I installed things as they arrived. But it should take 30 minutes or so to do by yourself. The difficult or troublesome part is getting the phone open. But it's not impossible, and otherwise the phone is extremely easy to repair. But you must be careful.
I'm perfectly satisfied to this day with my refurbished-by-me 3T. Won't be upgrading anytime soon.

So i did it today.It was really not that hard, just the old battery was hard to remove. All in all a really easy repair. I saw some green marks from my dishwasher incident, but it seams that everything is working well. The battery is working, charging, as it should. With a new tempered glass protector on top it looks like new.

Which tempered glass did you get?

Unbelievable, OnePlus, what a shady tactic...

So Ive just discovered that with the most recent update to my 8 Pro, OnePlus has completely disabled "warp"/"dash" charging on 3rd party charging cables. How do I know? Ive been using one since I got the phone, and have a brand new backup 3rd party cable as well to confirm my findings.
The reason I have a 3rd party cable is the distance from my night stand to my nearest outlet. The standard cable just isn't long enough. So when I got the phone I did some research and found that the cables I purchased were one of the few aftermarket cables available that actually supported dash charging. And they worked just fine. I could charge from 20 to 80 percent in about 25-30 mins, and the lightning symbol appeared, using these aftermarket cables. Now all of a sudden, after about 6 months with the phone, I cannot.
I thought the first cable may have gotten a short, so I went and grabbed my brand new backup, still in the original packaging, and plugged it in. Nope, only a sloe trickle charge. Then I started thinking "Oh no, did my power brick break??? So I went to the closet and snagged the original OnePlus Cable that came with the phone. Wala, warp charge reactivates.
It just seems absolutely rediculous to me that now I have to somehow try to find a genuine OnePlus cable that is at least 10 feet long and it will cost me a rediculous amount of money. Way to play the Apple game, OnePlus. Im pretty sure this will be the last OnePlus I ever purchase, if this is the behavior I am to expect from this company. Is is absolutely NOT OK to use tactics like this to advance sales if you ask me. Plus the price of OnePlus devices is less of a "Flagship Killer" and more of just a regular flagship anymore. As someone who started out with the OnePlus 2 and has watched this company grow, I would say that disappointed is the understatement of the year as to how I feel about the company these days. The fact that they locked out dash charge with a software lock is the final straw for me. Goodbye OnePlus ?.

I think there's actual reasoning why the cable is quite short, I'd have thought it a power issue, also substantially thicker.
Also their charger will be rated and tested to work with the phone, would you approve of someone using a third party component in your product? Of course not.
if you use a 3rd party charger/ cable and it develops a fault? First thing you're going to do is go back to OnePlus, chances are most end users would withhold the fact that they used a 3rd party charger / cable at all.
Not only that but what kind of a business would allow their party piece to be used with a cheaper and untested alternative?
I don't completely agree with it but I totally understand it.
From an ethical point of view and practical.
Are you charging your phone overnight? You stated night stand? If you are then you're going to cause a problem with your phone sooner rather than later anyway, couple that with a third party charger and your multiplying the possibility of failure and or unwanted issues.
Tbh by limiting the power your phone's taking they may actually be inadvertently prolonging the life of your battery..
Up to you if you carry on buying OnePlus, I think for the price (which is higher) you will have a very very hard time to find something similar, I'd put the 8 pro up against any phone in nearly any department, to stop using them because they're protecting their product? Lol come on, swallow that 3rd party pride.
Don't charge overnight, use the proper charger, be happier for longer :

I think it's not the cable
There is a bug in Android 11 all versions, beta and not
But it does not impact all users
I was in contact with the support and delivered some log details etc and they confirm me it's a bug and they will fix it with a software update
Basically it's Only charging with max 18 Watt then
As it does not impact all phones (no clue why) most of the people are still fine

That's odd, I'm currently using a 3rd Party 6ft cable and I can warp charge on Android 11. I currently use this one.

dladz said:
I think there's actual reasoning why the cable is quite short, I'd have thought it a power issue, also substantially thicker.
Also their charger will be rated and tested to work with the phone, would you approve of someone using a third party component in your product? Of course not.
if you use a 3rd party charger/ cable and it develops a fault? First thing you're going to do is go back to OnePlus, chances are most end users would withhold the fact that they used a 3rd party charger / cable at all.
Not only that but what kind of a business would allow their party piece to be used with a cheaper and untested alternative?
I don't completely agree with it but I totally understand it.
From an ethical point of view and practical.
Are you charging your phone overnight? You stated night stand? If you are then you're going to cause a problem with your phone sooner rather than later anyway, couple that with a third party charger and your multiplying the possibility of failure and or unwanted issues.
Tbh by limiting the power your phone's taking they may actually be inadvertently prolonging the life of your battery..
Up to you if you carry on buying OnePlus, I think for the price (which is higher) you will have a very very hard time to find something similar, I'd put the 8 pro up against any phone in nearly any department, to stop using them because they're protecting their product? Lol come on, swallow that 3rd party pride.
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qvert said:
I think it's not the cable
There is a bug in Android 11 all versions, beta and not
But it does not impact all users
I was in contact with the support and delivered some log details etc and they confirm me it's a bug and they will fix it with a software update
Basically it's Only charging with max 18 Watt then
As it does not impact all phones (no clue why) most of the people are still fine
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So it turns out that they have disabled charging completely on 3rd party. I just came back to the phone after 4 hours on the 3rd party cable and the power level hadn't moved. Started at 24%, ended at 24%. So the 3rd party cable now only allows enough power to keep the phone in its current state, awesome.
And no, it makes no sense whatsoever that OnePlus would do this. This cable isn't under rated at all on power, in fact its an exact copy of the official OnePlus cable, red cable with white tips and all. All they did was reverse-engineer an original cable, and lengthen it. Its that simple. You can even tell looking into the plug ends that its an exact duplicate.
Theres nothing wrong with using this cable, its never even gotten warm when warp charging, it handles the power just as well as the original, same thickness and all. And the best part? The 2 pack of 12ft cables was just $14.99. Now thats a reasonable price for cables.
I even tried on my OnePlus Warp Car charger. Yep, 3rd party cable disables the warp charge there as well. The only way to charge with the 3rd party is to turn the phone off completely, in which case its a very slow trickle charge, taking literally 3 hours to charge up.
Welp, thats all the tests done. Guess Im just gonna go get my self an extension cord. Seems theres no other option now, the longest cord OnePlus sells is 150cm, or 6ft. Thats not good enough. Looks like Im resorting to getting the brick up and onto my night stand. To think I just warped charged on these 12ft cables literally 2 days ago Wed, Nov 11 was the last time it worked. Now even the brand new, never used cable didn't work.
Anyways, you guys are entitled to your own opinions but I really think this is a super shady move by OnePlus and I could never approve of it. Apples locked down ecosystem is exactly why Ive always hated Apple products and I could never own one, phone or otherwise. I like being able to modify my device and so Android is the obvious choice. And since the Android OS is Open Source, I think l should be able to use any cable rated for 30+ watts.
Its simple logic, and I am pretty sick of watching OnePlus SkyRocket in price anyways. There are better options these days and in a few years, when it is time, I can certainly say that I will be looking at other brands first.

12 foot cables? How far away is your bed side cabinet?
How long are your arms? Are you Dhalsim?
Jokes aside, I think 12 foot for 30watts is maybe pushing it a little. Do you happen to have a shorter cable? 6 foot maybe? Can't help but think that the length has something to do with it.
As a previous user just said, they noticed a bug and this will be fixed with an update, possible that they're looking into it.
Not sure buddy, time will tell or it won't.
It does sound like you just want to vent a bit.
caitsith810 said:
That's odd, I'm currently using a 3rd Party 6ft cable and I can warp charge on Android 11. I currently use this one.
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Length I think may be the decisive factor.
Longest cable I've ever seen officially provided with a device is the Kindle which I think may be 12 foot, but the wattage, amperage and voltage required is extremely low hence why it's ok to use.

dladz said:
12 foot cables? How far away is your bed side cabinet?
How long are your arms? Are you Dhalsim?
Jokes aside, I think 12 foot for 30watts is maybe pushing it a little. Do you happen to have a shorter cable? 6 foot maybe? Can't help but think that the length has something to do with it.
As a previous user just said, they noticed a bug and this will be fixed with an update, possible that they're looking into it.
Not sure buddy, time will tell or it won't.
It does sound like you just want to vent a bit.
Length I think may be the decisive factor.
Longest cable I've ever seen officially provided with a device is the Kindle which I think may be 12 foot, but the wattage, amperage and voltage required is extremely low hence why it's ok to use.
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Honestly, its not about venting, Ive never seen this happen on any other android device nor have I ever even heard of it happening. Remember, length has nothing to do with it considering the FACT that I had warp charge using these 12 foot cables for 6 months up until literally Wednesday this week. I purchased the cables as soon as I purchased the phone, knowing my night stand is roughly 10 feet from the nearest outlet. Its just sad to see OnePlus use such a tactic when they were once the leading "Flagship Killer" manufacturer whos founding ideas literally opposed a situation in which you were forced to purchase from within a locked ecosystem and spend more money. They have literally become Apple, and its disgusting and goes against my morals as someone who believes that large companies already bleed us way too much. It literally goes against everything OnePlus as a company is even supposed to stand for. "Never Settle"? Yeah, right, that saying means NOTHING these days, and that's a cold, hard FACT.

wallacengineering said:
Honestly, its not about venting, Ive never seen this happen on any other android device nor have I ever even heard of it happening. Remember, length has nothing to do with it considering the FACT that I had warp charge using these 12 foot cables for 6 months up until literally Wednesday this week. I purchased the cables as soon as I purchased the phone, knowing my night stand is roughly 10 feet from the nearest outlet. Its just sad to see OnePlus use such a tactic when they were once the leading "Flagship Killer" manufacturer whos founding ideas literally opposed a situation in which you were forced to purchase from within a locked ecosystem and spend more money. They have literally become Apple, and its disgusting and goes against my morals as someone who believes that large companies already bleed us way too much. It literally goes against everything OnePlus as a company is even supposed to stand for. "Never Settle"? Yeah, right, that saying means NOTHING these days, and that's a cold, hard FACT.
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Do you think that it may have to do with the fact that warp is new too, it wasn't on any other device prior to the 8 pro?
I dunno, if it's solely down to money then I agree with you, but can see why they did it (business practice)
But if be interested to see if there's a science behind it and it's there's a safety aspect involved, if thats the case then they could have done you a favour.
It'd be good to get some concise clarity.
Wouldn't go as far to call OnePlus apple mate, Huawei and Samsung sure but definitely not OnePlus.
The don't really mind you unlocking your bootloader, Samsung has an efuse chip that breaks when you modify the device with Odin (Dev software)
Huawei have completely blocked bootloader unlocking.
OnePlus until recently actually had twrp on their website?
If you unlock your bootloader you can still send it back for warranty, that's pretty opposite to Apple.
Safety (if this is why they reduced power to 3rd party cables) is mandatory to any company, saying "screw it so what if they catch fire, our customer saved some money" isn't in line with any company.
I think you're jumping the gun there.
Let's see what transpires first, seeing as another user is using a third party 6 foot cable there is no evidence that they have done that.
Your 12 foot cables may not meet their standards, after all did OnePlus release a 12 foot cable?

Not from what I can tell.
Tbh mate they have no moral obligation to support 12 foot cables.
Not bashing you btw, just giving you an objective opinion.
I can see your point but without clarity we can't see why that decision was made, coupled with the fact that they don't support that length I can't see how we can without a clear and concise response from OnePlus.
My money is on the length and potential risk.

dladz said:
Not from what I can tell.
Tbh mate they have no moral obligation to support 12 foot cables.
Not bashing you btw, just giving you an objective opinion.
I can see your point but without clarity we can't see why that decision was made, coupled with the fact that they don't support that length I can't see how we can without a clear and concise response from OnePlus.
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Well you do have a decent point here, OnePlus is definitely not as bad as a couple others, YET. However, I strongly doubt it was disabled for safety reasons. As I said, the cables have worked for the past 6 months on warp charge and theyve NEVER gotten even warm, always cool to the touch. Heat is always the first indication that something is being fed too much power, believe me. I build PCs and hobby-grade RC cars. I know the limits of current and wattage. 30 watts is nothing. Im used to pushing 2000 watts through short lengths of 10AWG wire. Even my LiPo charger dishes out 200W of charge power per channel and thats not even a super high amount these days, there are chargers capable of 1000 watts out there.
RC cars are a sure-fire way to push electronics to their very limit. Little machines that can out-run real full sized cars is nothing to sneeze at. But anyways, the parts that ever got warm durching warp charge were always the phone (slightly unless being used simultaneously), and the power brick (not bad but warmer than the phone on standby receiving warp charge). Both of these are completely expected and normal behaviors and have been for years now.

wallacengineering said:
Well you do have a decent point here, OnePlus is definitely not as bad as a couple others, YET. However, I strongly doubt it was disabled for safety reasons. As I said, the cables have worked for the past 6 months on warp charge and theyve NEVER gotten even warm, always cool to the touch. Heat is always the first indication that something is being fed too much power, believe me. I build PCs and hobby-grade RC cars. I know the limits of current and wattage. 30 watts is nothing. Im used to pushing 2000 watts through short lengths of 10AWG wire. Even my LiPo charger dishes out 200W of charge power per channel and thats not even a super high amount these days, there are chargers capable of 1000 watts out there.
RC cars are a sure-fire way to push electronics to their very limit. Little machines that can out-run real full sized cars is nothing to sneeze at. But anyways, the parts that ever got warm durching warp charge were always the phone (slightly unless being used simultaneously), and the power brick (not bad but warmer than the phone on standby receiving warp charge). Both of these are completely expected and normal behaviors and have been for years now.
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Aye I've been building PC's for decades myself, bit of a tinkerer, guess a lot of people are on XDA.
I've got a friend who does the RC racing cars, they're crazy fast, all Carbon parts, costs a small fortune too, interesting hobby, got my eye on the racing drones myself.
With the cable, bottom line from me is I don't know, I wish I understood the science more. Just seems long lol, plus it's a trick missed on their part for not releasing it themselves, I can't help but think maybe there's a reason for it? If not then pfft I have no idea, if they release a new 12 foot cable soon then we have our answer.

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Aye I've been building PC's for decades myself, bit of a tinkerer, guess a lot of people are on XDA.
I've got a friend who does the RC racing cars, they're crazy fast, all Carbon parts, costs a small fortune too, interesting hobby, got my eye on the racing drones myself.
With the cable, bottom line from me is I don't know, I wish I understood the science more. Just seems long lol, plus it's a trick missed on their part for not releasing it themselves, I can't help but think maybe there's a reason for it? If not then pfft I have no idea, if they release a new 12 foot cable soon then we have our answer.
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Ya, OnePlus releasing a 10 or 12-foot cable would just make me face palm like nobody's business ? lol.
Ya RC is fun as hell, probably the most fun an adult could ever have with a hobby. The community is amazing too, I race and bash with dozens of enthusiasts regularly just in my local area alone, we do everything from Monster Trucks to Rock Crawlers to Drift Cars to pro Racing Buggies. Just be sure to do your research. The Lithium batts aren't the same as the ones in our phones. They are incredibly power-dense and literally explode like a thermite grenade if mistreated. Luckily drone batteries are nowhere near the size of car and truck batts. My 6S LiPo is 6500mAH and 6S2P (Series-Parallel) configuration so thats 12 cells total. Its an incredibly violent and huge battery measuring 139(L)x48(W)x67mm(H) and weighs 900 grams. Its capable of burning right through 1in thick hardened alloy steel of class 12.9. Its a bad day if you set one of these guys off.
Its capable of 120 Amps of continuous current at 25 Volts (3000 watts) and bursts under 3 seconds of up to 200 Amps at 25 Volts (5000 watts). Its borderline ludacris technology. And these aren't even close to the most powerful LiPos available. Just be sure to understand that thanks to marketing, LiPo "C" discharge ratings are massively over rated and are false. Mine says 75C, which is BS, so they claim 487A continuous current when theres simply no way in hell. Tests have been done over the years to prove that C ratings are useless, so keep that in mind.
One Truck I own is the 1/8 Scale Arrma Kraton EXB. Ive put more than $1500 USD into it thus far, easily capable of 100+ MPH with appropriate gearing, capable of standing backflips, and can handle drops from 20 feet like it was just another drive home from work. Its an incredible machine, and I think you would like it. My 6S 6500mAH LiPo is responsible for powering it. Take a looksy at this review of the Kraton EXB from the second largest RC YouTuber:
https://youtu.be/DlVSj-zUlTY

wallacengineering said:
Ya, OnePlus releasing a 10 or 12-foot cable would just make me face palm like nobody's business ? lol.
Ya RC is fun as hell, probably the most fun an adult could ever have with a hobby. The community is amazing too, I race and bash with dozens of enthusiasts regularly just in my local area alone, we do everything from Monster Trucks to Rock Crawlers to Drift Cars to pro Racing Buggies. Just be sure to do your research. The Lithium batts aren't the same as the ones in our phones. They are incredibly power-dense and literally explode like a thermite grenade if mistreated. Luckily drone batteries are nowhere near the size of car and truck batts. My 6S LiPo is 6500mAH and 6S2P (Series-Parallel) configuration so thats 12 cells total. Its an incredibly violent and huge battery measuring 139(L)x48(W)x67mm(H) and weighs 900 grams. Its capable of burning right through 1in thick hardened alloy steel of class 12.9. Its a bad day if you set one of these guys off.
Its capable of 120 Amps of continuous current at 25 Volts (3000 watts) and bursts under 3 seconds of up to 200 Amps at 25 Volts (5000 watts). Its borderline ludacris technology. And these aren't even close to the most powerful LiPos available. Just be sure to understand that thanks to marketing, LiPo "C" discharge ratings are massively over rated and are false. Mine says 75C, which is BS, so they claim 487A continuous current when theres simply no way in hell. Tests have been done over the years to prove that C ratings are useless, so keep that in mind.
One Truck I own is the 1/8 Scale Arrma Kraton EXB. Ive put more than $1500 USD into it thus far, easily capable of 100+ MPH with appropriate gearing, capable of standing backflips, and can handle drops from 20 feet like it was just another drive home from work. Its an incredible machine, and I think you would like it. My 6S 6500mAH LiPo is responsible for powering it. Take a looksy at this review of the Kraton EXB from the second largest RC YouTuber:
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Haha that's mad. Brings out the inner child in every bloke in the world, you should try clay pigeon, most addictive hobby there is, I was hooked the second I tried it, I didn't miss a single shot on my first day out.
[email protected] I've seen actual cars sell for less.
I'll check out the vid, cheers
Also even if we've not solved the 12 foot OnePlus back step problem, you sound more upbeat and that's a start.
:good:

dladz said:
Haha that's mad. Brings out the inner child in every bloke in the world, you should try clay pigeon, most addictive hobby there is, I was hooked the second I tried it, I didn't miss a single shot on my first day out.
[email protected] I've seen actual cars sell for less.
I'll check out the vid, cheers
Also even if we've not solved the 12 foot OnePlus back step problem, you sound more upbeat and that's a start.
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Don't get me wrong OnePlus is definitely still not impressing me right now. I considered alternatives before even buying the 8 Pro considering the price but ended up going for the innovative LPDDR5 RAM + worlds first high current wireless charging, but now this is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. Guess we will cross that road when we come to it.
But RC discussions never fail to put a smile on my face, they truly are rediculous machines. You won't regret it. ?

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Don't get me wrong OnePlus is definitely still not impressing me right now. I considered alternatives before even buying the 8 Pro considering the price but ended up going for the innovative LPDDR5 RAM + worlds first high current wireless charging, but now this is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. Guess we will cross that road when we come to it.
But RC discussions never fail to put a smile on my face, they truly are rediculous machines. You won't regret it. ?
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Might do, have other commitments first and if I start I know I'll be hooked.
Personally I think OnePlus is going to be the one to beat for many years to come.. I'm still hoping htc makes a comeback
Sony - boring, stupid DRM, poor battery, awful development.
LG- Mental, impractical, very poor battery, no idea on development, complicated device, impossible to implement on ROMs
Samsung - efuse chip, exynos chips on EU devices, awful all round, super expensive
Pixel - expensive, awful battery, not top tier hardware
What does that leave? The Chinese ones?
Yea I'll stick with OnePlus

dladz said:
Might do, have other commitments first and if I start I know I'll be hooked.
Personally I think OnePlus is going to be the one to beat for many years to come.. I'm still hoping htc makes a comeback
Sony - boring, stupid DRM, poor battery, awful development.
LG- Mental, impractical, very poor battery, no idea on development, complicated device, impossible to implement on ROMs
Samsung - efuse chip, exynos chips on EU devices, awful all round, super expensive
Pixel - expensive, awful battery, not top tier hardware
What does that leave? The Chinese ones?
Yea I'll stick with OnePlus
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There was a sony I saw a while back that actually looked really interesting. I forget what its called but it had a perfect 21:9 aspect ratio and looked kinda strange at first but as I watched reviews it became more and more appealing. But yea, the battery - not so great lol.

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There was a sony I saw a while back that actually looked really interesting. I forget what its called but it had a perfect 21:9 aspect ratio and looked kinda strange at first but as I watched reviews it became more and more appealing. But yea, the battery - not so great lol.
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Think I know the one, quite old though was £900 at the time. Didn't sell very well
There is something i like about Sony phones but so much to dislike

I also lost warp on my el-cheapo 6ft cable. Then again, that thing is so thin I doubt I even want it to run warp lol.
There's only one real competitor I see for the OP8 / Pro. The ROG Phone 3 / Strix. Similar price, amazing hardware and cooling, great battery, I don't really see a downside to it lol.

lol
how dare oneplus force me to use their cable, which came included with the phone, for warp charging, a feature that's exclusive to oneplus chargers....:crying: they're just like apple!
lol if you cry any harder i might think you're stormviper

I have an 8 foot red cable (don't recall if I got it from 1+) but I can fast charge. I originally had one of those interchangeable USB and tips but all it would do was maintain the current charge. Those interchangeable tips are very convenient when you have a house full of type c, micro USB, and Apple products. I don't know why they would invoke such a procedure as preventing use of alternate charging devices, but it is one of the things I have come to dislike about OnePlus. I don't know if I'd feel comfortable buying another one of their phones, even though in other ways they are superior. I do not like Samsung at all and I'm disappointed that the Pixel phones aren't keeping up.