Other than the stock camera, and Google Camera, I've yet to find a single camera application that actually supports the Z1C's HDR camera mode, all applications will take multiple shots and then do software HDR, whereas the camera is capable of doing HDR on its own (or so it seems when I use the first two applications).
Is there a reason why applications that use Software HDR can't just use the hardware version when installed in a device that supports it? Why I can't find other apps that use it?
I am not satisfied with the stock or Google camera, yet I don't want to give up HDR support to switch to something else :/
HDR is not a Hardware feature, in all cameras or Smartphones is a software picture treatment..
Vikingog said:
HDR is not a Hardware feature, in all cameras or Smartphones is a software picture treatment..
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging#HDR_sensors
I think he means that we have a HDR capable sensor..
Try Camera FV5 .. Someone told me that camera 360 app takes good pics in sony.. try that also..
Is there any reason that the sony cybershot camera apps package included in Sony STOCK ROM 5.0.2 can't be installed with any lollipop ROM....?
I have CM12.... and once MultiROM is available for the Z1c I'll be installing lots of ROMS to try them out but would be good to have Sony's Camera, and Walkman that work across all of them.
Can the Sony camera apps package be extracted from the system SIN file within a SONY STOCK lollipop zip and installed into any ROM...?
The Walkman app works.... I already have it.... just can't seem to find the camera apps anywhere
armaldon said:
Other than the stock camera, and Google Camera, I've yet to find a single camera application that actually supports the Z1C's HDR camera mode, all applications will take multiple shots and then do software HDR, whereas the camera is capable of doing HDR on its own (or so it seems when I use the first two applications).
Is there a reason why applications that use Software HDR can't just use the hardware version when installed in a device that supports it? Why I can't find other apps that use it?
I am not satisfied with the stock or Google camera, yet I don't want to give up HDR support to switch to something else :/
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Stock camera being Sony....? So are you on Stock ROM or have you found somewhere to download the original Sony camera apps package and installed them....? I'm looking everywhere trying to find the apps package with no luck so if you can help that would be awesome,
EDIT:.... I now have Snap... very nice HDR capability but have no idea if it's using the Hardware of the cybershot...?
hi,
Anyone know how can improve the camera quality since the google camera application wont work without gapps.
I thought about using the modded gcam, and i have tried a few, and they also wont start.
Device is Pixel XL.
Thanks
w1ll1m said:
hi,
Anyone know how can improve the camera quality since the google camera application wont work without gapps.
I thought about using the modded gcam, and i have tried a few, and they also wont start.
Device is Pixel XL.
Thanks
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Some AOSP roms include the Snapdragon or Snap camera, which is considerably better than the AOSP one.
You can also try third-party cameras, like Open Camera.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...d-camera-nx-v4-google-camera-zsl-hdr-t3494435
Default Camera App of Xiaomi Redmi Note 5/Pro is not bad!
But when another apps using camera (such as facebook, google Duo...), the picture quality is realy bad? i khow it doen't/isn't because of sensor'quality!
So How to imporve App Camera?
Tks
I always try to take photos with the camera app and then share to other apps, rather than take from within Facebook, hangouts, Viber, WhatsApp, etc. Most of those apps will still compress the image a bit also, so better starting with the best quality image, ie straight from the actual camera app itself.
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gsmyth said:
I always try to take photos with the camera app and then share to other apps, rather than take from within Facebook, hangouts, Viber, WhatsApp, etc. Most of those apps will still compress the image a bit also, so better starting with the best quality image, ie straight from the actual camera app itself.
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But it takes many time and inconvenience. Can any one replace default csmera API for app with better one?
dynamic503 said:
But it takes many time and inconvenience. Can any one replace default csmera API for app with better one?
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You can't change what API an application uses, some apps take advantage of camera2 api. If any of the ones your using do and you haven't enabled camera2 api with magisk or either i think it's a build.prop edit, then there likely to be defaulting to camera1 api that's my guess at least.
This assumes your using a custom rom, i'm not sure if camera2 api is enabled by default with MIUI or if it requires root.Your primary camera app can take advantage of binary, blobs drivers that the third party apps may not necessarily benefit from, no perfect solution try it and see.
gsmyth said:
I always try to take photos with the camera app and then share to other apps, rather than take from within Facebook, hangouts, Viber, WhatsApp, etc. Most of those apps will still compress the image a bit also, so better starting with the best quality image, ie straight from the actual camera app itself.
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You can't change what API an application uses, some apps take advantage of camera2 api. If any of the ones your using do and you haven't enabled camera2 api with magisk or either i think it's a build.prop edit, then there likely to be defaulting to camera1 api that's my guess at least.
This assumes your using a custom rom, i'm not sure if camera2 api is enabled by default with MIUI or if it requires root.Your primary camera app can take advantage of binary, blobs drivers that the third party apps may not necessarily benefit from, no perfect solution try it and see.
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I have enabled camera api2 already. For google camera. The pic quality is very good. But how can another camera app can use that camera driver?
dynamic503 said:
I have enabled camera api2 already. For google camera. The pic quality is very good. But how can another camera app can use that camera driver?
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I've asked this type of thing before, and had a few developers try to answer it it's messy. The idea is Samsung, LG, Xiaomi every manufacturer has there own default rom.
They call theirs stock, that's their version of stock, it's customised only AOSP is truly stock, but the manufacturers versions of their "own" stock roms include a binary also referred to as binary, blobs, it's pretty much a closed source driver each manufacturer makes so their default camera looks amazing.
A general idea is replacing stock rom from any manufacturer with any that isn't based of their "own" stock rom isn't going to include their camera driver as it's closed source, so developers can't use it, they can get the cameras working but they don't look great compared to stock with binary. Lots of people avoid custom roms lineage os aosp ect for this reason video calls, all apps using the camera look terrible.
Two exceptions google open sources there camera drivers and oneplus might be some rare others, in these cases camera quality is expected to be the same while using lineage os or aosp.
I'm not 100% sure if all apps use camera1 and camera2 api if you try look for whatsapp or google duo i couldn't confirm it for them, snapchat uses camera1 api instagram uses camera2 api, but maybe some apps don't benefit from camera2 api at all i'm unsure.
I also tried asking if google camera ports, look better on stock roms that have the binary driver from companies, compared to lineage os ect that don't have it, but that's unclear as even tho i'm 100% sure the binary from manufacturers benefit there own made camera apps, i'm not 100% if the binary benefits all third party apps, but i guess it does, as that's likely the reason all apps look worse moving away from stock roms.
Google camera ports may look great on roms without, the binary as they simply make use of camera2 api which doesn't really require anything from the closed source driver, which would explain why everyone raves about google camera ports on lineage os ect been great, before camera 2 api never saw people been overly impressed about camera apps with missing binary drivers.
Are you on MIUI or something else? you did say the stock camera app not google camera looks good and everything else looks worse, if your still on MIUI then maybe they don't have a binary or simply one that only effects there own camera app, you mentioned the camera lens quality also it's mostly software driver optimisations per individual app ect influencing it's quality.
You asked how to make other apps use google cameras driver, well google camera is benefiting from camera2 api that isn't a driver at all, however it is a requirement similar aspect to a driver it's up to each app developer if there going to make there, application benefit from camera1 api or camera2 api or not at all, so you cant force apps to use it when the developer of that app never implemented camera2 api to begin with, you enable camera2 api for google camera because custom roms and lots of phones don't have it enabled at all. Some phones sold from stores have camera2 api enabled out of the box.
I do actually wish there was a way to fix this, as i've thought about this myself, i did ask a question here about the same type of thing you can read it if you like.
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/200073/stock-os-vs-custom-proprietary-camera
also this the different levels of camera2 api supported depending on your phone
https://www.androidexplained.com/camera2-api-support/
the only other idea, i have is if the rom you use lets you choose the stock camera app to use and you change that to google camera and whatever, but i'm sure that's wishful thinking as when you do a video call an app will likely default to it's own camera even if you do that, but couldn't hurt to try it i guess!
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I've asked this type of thing before, and had a few developers try to answer it it's messy. The idea is Samsung, LG, Xiaomi every manufacturer has there own default rom.
They call theirs stock, that's their version of stock, it's customised only AOSP is truly stock, but the manufacturers versions of their "own" stock roms include a binary also referred to as binary, blobs, it's pretty much a closed source driver each manufacturer makes so their default camera looks amazing.
A general idea is replacing stock rom from any manufacturer with any that isn't based of their "own" stock rom isn't going to include their camera driver as it's closed source, so developers can't use it, they can get the cameras working but they don't look great compared to stock with binary. Lots of people avoid custom roms lineage os aosp ect for this reason video calls, all apps using the camera look terrible.
Two exceptions google open sources there camera drivers and oneplus might be some rare others, in these cases camera quality is expected to be the same while using lineage os or aosp.
I'm not 100% sure if all apps use camera1 and camera2 api if you try look for whatsapp or google duo i couldn't confirm it for them, snapchat uses camera1 api instagram uses camera2 api, but maybe some apps don't benefit from camera2 api at all i'm unsure.
I also tried asking if google camera ports, look better on stock roms that have the binary driver from companies, compared to lineage os ect that don't have it, but that's unclear as even tho i'm 100% sure the binary from manufacturers benefit there own made camera apps, i'm not 100% if the binary benefits all third party apps, but i guess it does, as that's likely the reason all apps look worse moving away from stock roms.
Google camera ports may look great on roms without, the binary as they simply make use of camera2 api which doesn't really require anything from the closed source driver, which would explain why everyone raves about google camera ports on lineage os ect been great, before camera 2 api never saw people been overly impressed about camera apps with missing binary drivers.
Are you on MIUI or something else? you did say the stock camera app not google camera looks good and everything else looks worse, if your still on MIUI then maybe they don't have a binary or simply one that only effects there own camera app, you mentioned the camera lens quality also it's mostly software driver optimisations per individual app ect influencing it's quality.
You asked how to make other apps use google cameras driver, well google camera is benefiting from camera2 api that isn't a driver at all, however it is a requirement similar aspect to a driver it's up to each app developer if there going to make there, application benefit from camera1 api or camera2 api or not at all, so you cant force apps to use it when the developer of that app never implemented camera2 api to begin with, you enable camera2 api for google camera because custom roms and lots of phones don't have it enabled at all. Some phones sold from stores have camera2 api enabled out of the box.
I do actually wish there was a way to fix this, as i've thought about this myself, i did ask a question here about the same type of thing you can read it if you like.
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/200073/stock-os-vs-custom-proprietary-camera
also this the different levels of camera2 api supported depending on your phone
https://www.androidexplained.com/camera2-api-support/
the only other idea, i have is if the rom you use lets you choose the stock camera app to use and you change that to google camera and whatever, but i'm sure that's wishful thinking as when you do a video call an app will likely default to it's own camera even if you do that, but couldn't hurt to try it i guess!
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Thankyou very much. But sad. Because many cheaper phone have better facebook messenger video call quality.
dynamic503 said:
Thankyou very much. But sad. Because many cheaper phone have better facebook messenger video call quality.
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Your welcome, hmm what phones have you seen with better video call quality on facebook messenger? i assume you have compared to more expensive phones.
That just becomes confusing, since for example just because a bunch of apps use camera2 api doesn't mean they will all be the same, software optimisations determine if it looks better or worse.
I would have assumed facebook's software was exactly the same for each phone it has been put on, unless it's simply the case these cheaper phones your speaking of are benefiting from a closed source driver, and for some crazy reason xiaomi phones don't have a binary for it, guess i'll look into that at some point.
Now that i've got this phone, yes xiaomi's camera app in particular is very good photo quality, better then any camera app i've seen on any custom rom very adjustable.
Worth noting i installed lineage os that had the xiaomi's default camera included in the rom i compared the quality to when i was using stock camera on miui itself, i couldn't see any differences in picture quality, which suggests to me perhaps xiaomi's camera isn't using any closed source driver, binary at all and it's quality is simply optimisations and the fact there's no binary driver is why there other apps look worse.
Just guessing at this point, but that's about the only scenario i think makes sense.
Just remembered there's a new thing called Project Treble the note 5 pro can upgrade to be treble compatible i have the note 5 ai so i got treble out of the box the crux is, if you flash a rom well a treble rom is called a GSI, generic system image a benefit of this, if it allows you to keep the vendor partition untouched while using custom roms, the vendor partition is where the closed source driver is and does mean a custom rom can use those drivers as they haven't been removed.
So it would mean custom roms with good camera/videos of course Treble is so new, so who noes if that's working properly yet! and it would assume xiaomis phones had closed drivers, if your not using miui and camera is bad then no surprise try go back to miui you never said what you use.
anyways you can read about that here.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/13/project-treble-impact-android-custom-rom-community/
it points out the stuff about cameras and roms.
Alister. said:
Your welcome, hmm what phones have you seen with better video call quality on facebook messenger? i assume you have compared to more expensive phones.
That just becomes confusing, since for example just because a bunch of apps use camera2 api doesn't mean they will all be the same, software optimisations determine if it looks better or worse.
I would have assumed facebook's software was exactly the same for each phone it has been put on, unless it's simply the case these cheaper phones your speaking of are benefiting from a closed source driver, and for some crazy reason xiaomi phones don't have a binary for it, guess i'll look into that at some point.
Now that i've got this phone, yes xiaomi's camera app in particular is very good photo quality, better then any camera app i've seen on any custom rom very adjustable.
Worth noting i installed lineage os that had the xiaomi's default camera included in the rom i compared the quality to when i was using stock camera on miui itself, i couldn't see any differences in picture quality, which suggests to me perhaps xiaomi's camera isn't using any closed source driver, binary at all and it's quality is simply optimisations and the fact there's no binary driver is why there other apps look worse.
Just guessing at this point, but that's about the only scenario i think makes sense.
Just remembered there's a new thing called Project Treble the note 5 pro can upgrade to be treble compatible i have the note 5 ai so i got treble out of the box the crux is, if you flash a rom well a treble rom is called a GSI, generic system image a benefit of this, if it allows you to keep the vendor partition untouched while using custom roms, the vendor partition is where the closed source driver is and does mean a custom rom can use those drivers as they haven't been removed.
So it would mean custom roms with good camera/videos of course Treble is so new, so who noes if that's working properly yet! and it would assume xiaomis phones had closed drivers, if your not using miui and camera is bad then no surprise try go back to miui you never said what you use.
anyways you can read about that here.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/13/project-treble-impact-android-custom-rom-community/
it points out the stuff about cameras and roms.
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Vivo V9 ... have better facebook video call quality...
Thankyou for your information
Camera performance in WhatsApp is very poor for rn5 pro selfie camera. How it could be improved ?
mjnabi said:
Camera performance in WhatsApp is very poor for rn5 pro selfie camera. How it could be improved ?
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No way now. Plz all of us report to Xiaomi
Yes plz report to Xiaomi
While looking for a nice Google Cam port for this handset, the XDA Portal Google Cam Hub mentioned Arnova's port. I've also seen that there is a fix for our device so that the port works properly, and that it needs root or TWRP to be installed. Without root and with the stock recovery, I proceeded to install the GCam port and used it for a couple of days, comparing its pics with others from the stock camera app. I have a couple of questions:
I've noticed no difference in quality. Do I need to adjust something in the settings of the ported APK other than to prevent the camera from taking purple photos? Maybe I'm doing something wrong and the quality could be better, maybe on the OP5T there isn't a big difference in camera quality between stock and GCam, and I just don't know it.
Is the fix needed if I'm just going to use the ported APK to take still pictures with the rear camera? I've read that the fix just deals with recording video and with the front camera.
Thank you beforehand. Probably there are details that I failed to read when I was searching for the port, but with this GCam thing being so decentralized it's a mess.
The image quality es better, less postprocessing and HDR+ it's just fantastic and GCam always perfect White Balance
I found that some versions of Arnova has that purple thing, just try diferents versions and stick to the best one (it depends if your ROM has the libs like Omnirom Treskmod)
Just try diferent Arnova versions : https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Cheers