Hi,
Anyone with the Best-buy Unlocked version can confirm if the bootloader is Unlocked? Perviously only the Verizon version was available with Bootloader locked, now with this models looks like all the devices will be bootloader unlockeable.
Thanks,
I guess a better question would be what pixel 3a XL have an unlocked bootloader? I am interested in buying one from t-mobile. I would assume the one sold at the google store has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks for any information.
alphahere said:
I guess a better question would be what pixel 3a XL have an unlocked bootloader? I am interested in buying one from t-mobile. I would assume the one sold at the google store has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks for any information.
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I bought the unlocked Pixel 3a XL at Best Buy today. The OEM unlock toggle in developer options is not greyed out. The bootloader is unlockable....
droidnew said:
I bought the unlocked Pixel 3a XL at Best Buy today. The OEM unlock toggle in developer options is not greyed out. The bootloader is unlockable....
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Thank you Sr.
alphahere said:
I guess a better question would be what pixel 3a XL have an unlocked bootloader? I am interested in buying one from t-mobile. I would assume the one sold at the google store has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks for any information.
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Per google all pixels are sold at carriers, except Verizon, are the same exact one sold from google store. They only include a sim for the carrier. Meaning they are sim unlocked, bootloader unlockable et ESIM ready. Verizon even on Pixel 3a had the ESIM removed or disabled. again. Do not buy from Verizon.
Best buy Unlocked, B&H video....are OK I will find out as soon as I pick mine from tmobile and will update this post.
nashi20002003 said:
Per google all pixels are sold at carriers, except Verizon, are the same exact one sold from google store. They only include a sim for the carrier. Meaning they are sim unlocked, bootloader unlockable et ESIM ready. Verizon even on Pixel 3a had the ESIM removed or disabled. again. Do not buy from Verizon.
Best buy Unlocked, B&H video....are OK I will find out as soon as I pick mine from tmobile and will update this post.
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Please do. I'm anxious to pull the trigger today on a couple of Pixels from T-Mobile but won't if the bootloader is locked.
I purchased the 3a XL at Best Buy and was able to unlock the bootloader. Works fine on T-Mobile. Plus, BB gave me a $100 gift card with the purchase.
Phariex said:
Hi,
Anyone with the Best-buy Unlocked version can confirm if the bootloader is Unlocked? Perviously only the Verizon version was available with Bootloader locked, now with this models looks like all the devices will be bootloader unlockeable.
Thanks,
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Yes it's unlock-able just buy the carrier unlocked model not the Verizon one. Best Buy now sells all 4 models in the unlocked version.
TechOut said:
Yes it's unlock-able just buy the carrier unlocked model not the Verizon one. Best Buy now sells all 4 models in the unlocked version.
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Also... Verizon Wi-Fi calling is working on my unlocked 3a XL. Just FYI stuff
droidnew said:
Also... Verizon Wi-Fi calling is working on my unlocked 3a XL. Just FYI stuff
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Each carrier (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint) all have a Pixel variant now so as long as the carrier supports Wi-Fi calling on a BYOD phone it should work for the major carriers.
I'm wondering if the AT&t T-Mobile Sprint very in school out for bootloader unlock or if they're going the same way as Verizon with it not being unlockable I prefer just to buy it from the Google store and get the unlocked one but Best buy has it for $100 cheaper if you activate it through them Even the unlocked one so I don't know how that works.
I have the Tmo one. I see that damn unlock app in my drawer and sure enough, it's locked to the network. :/
nashi20002003 said:
Per google all pixels are sold at carriers, except Verizon, are the same exact one sold from google store. They only include a sim for the carrier. Meaning they are sim unlocked, bootloader unlockable et ESIM ready. Verizon even on Pixel 3a had the ESIM removed or disabled. again. Do not buy from Verizon.
Best buy Unlocked, B&H video....are OK I will find out as soon as I pick mine from tmobile and will update this post.
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I just asked B&H about their listing and according to the B&H rep.. LTE Band 71 is missing on the B&H model. Does not make sense but that is what they told me and it is on the question and answer page. So if you are going to use T-Mobile avoid this model.
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CHH2 said:
I have the Tmo one. I see that damn unlock app in my drawer and sure enough, it's locked to the network. :/
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That it for me, I need a unlocked phone. Thanks! I am going to get the bestbuy version. Is the bootloader unlockable on the t-mobile version?
alphahere said:
I just asked B&H about their listing and according to the B&H rep.. LTE Band 71 is missing on the B&H model. Does not make sense but that is what they told me and it is on the question and answer page. So if you are going to use T-Mobile avoid this model.
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That it for me, I need a unlocked phone. Thanks! I am going to get the bestbuy version. Is the bootloader unlockable on the t-mobile version?
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The specs over on the Google store site says that band 71 is there. And I have no idea if the bootloader in unlockable? How do I check?
GokuSSJgod said:
I'm wondering if the AT&t T-Mobile Sprint very in school out for bootloader unlock or if they're going the same way as Verizon with it not being unlockable I prefer just to buy it from the Google store and get the unlocked one but Best buy has it for $100 cheaper if you activate it through them Even the unlocked one so I don't know how that works.
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That would be a BB gift card. Google Store has the same $100 credit for the Google Store so I don't think that I'd say it was $100 cheaper at BB.
bobby janow said:
That would be a BB gift card. Google Store has the same $100 credit for the Google Store so I don't think that I'd say it was $100 cheaper at BB.
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My main query was about the bootloader status if it's going to be like Verizon on the other carriers or if it's going to be like the unlocked from Google Which Best buy selling and yeah.
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My main query was about the bootloader status if it's going to be like Verizon on the other carriers or if it's going to be like the unlocked from Google Which Best buy selling and yeah.
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Yes, I know that. I think that has been answered in that only the Verizon model will be bl locked. But I'd still like to see a few more confirmations of it.
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The specs over on the Google store site says that band 71 is there. And I have no idea if the bootloader in unlockable? How do I check?
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https://www.techmesto.com/how-to-check-android-bootloader-lock-status-from-fastboot/
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Yes, I know that. I think that has been answered in that only the Verizon model will be bl locked. But I'd still like to see a few more confirmations of it.
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Of course the Verizon is locked. I'm wondering if someone can answer the variants for T-Mobile, Sprint and at&t. Unless those models are just the Google store unlocked models which would be amazing!
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I have the Tmo one. I see that damn unlock app in my drawer and sure enough, it's locked to the network. :/
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But is the allow oem Unlocking toggle in dev options grayed out?
Related
It seems like all of the of the carriers have released the LG G4 locked to the carrier, but where can I purchase it unlocked, so that I can switch between carriers?
Does Best Buy sell it unlocked?
I'm in South Florida, USA.
Thank you.
Best place so far, and several have got them from this seller on ebay here at XDA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
Looks pretty legit, do you have a link to satisfied customers on XDA?
Thank you for the link.
Acill said:
Best place so far, and several have got them from this seller on ebay here at XDA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
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He is selling the Asian version.
The only one with an unlockable bootloader (right now) is the EU version. (if that matters to you)
I suppose I'm confused about the differences. I'd like to be able to root/unlock the bootloader - which will allow me to install custom ROMs/modifications?
But my main concern at the moment is being able to switch carriers - for example from Sprint to T-Mobile.
I dont think you can go from sprint to t-mobile. Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM
Also good to know the 815 isnt universal, had no idea. WAY to many SKUs on this phone!!
The Asian version at that link will run on T-Mobile, AT&T or any other GSM provider just fine. It won't run on Sprint or Verizon.
I have an unlock one up gor sale on swappa. Check for Fidelio_o
No one is selling an unlocked version. An unlock is not even available (for the US variants).
I got the unlocked version from that eBay listing. Using it on AT&T. Love it.
Does 815 have quick charging?
Does anyone know if 815 model comes with quick charging?
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Does anyone know if 815 model comes with quick charging?
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Im using my anker quick charger and it works just fine.
B&H Photo will have them around June 20. $629 for non-leather, $699 for leather.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1155900-REG/lg_lg_h815_32gb_blk_g4_h815_32gb_unlocked.html
That's one of the questions I also have. If I buy the unlocked version will it be compatible with both AT&T & T-Mobile. And by compatible I mean will I get full 4G LTE speeds while using on either carrier. I currently have a unlocked branded T-Mobile HTC One M8 but I don't get AT&T's LTE when I put in one of their SIM cards.
gtg465x said:
I got the unlocked version from that eBay listing. Using it on AT&T. Love it.
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I call bull****. An unlock is not even available right now.
davelee1054 said:
I call bull****. An unlock is not even available right now.
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Go ahead, call it. Hope it makes you feel better.
It's not an AT&T branded model that was unlocked after purchase. It's a factory unlocked model. As in, not carrier branded, was never locked to begin with so didn't need to be unlocked.
See here:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/191577825455?nav=SEARCH
Bootloader unlock is available for the h815 but you just blew your warranty if anyone is selling g4s with unlocked bootloaders i would be careful as there is no warranty lg has already stated once you unlock the bootloader your warranty is blown.
nexy33 said:
Bootloader unlock is available for the h815 but you just blew your warranty if anyone is selling g4s with unlocked bootloaders i would be careful as there is no warranty lg has already stated once you unlock the bootloader your warranty is blown.
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Dude, I have an H815. The bootloader is not unlocked. Factory unlocked refers to the phone not being locked to a specific carrier, not the bootloader. It works on AT&T and T-Mobile and any GSM carrier I want. And I didn't have to do any unlocking myself to get it carrier unlocked. It came that way from the LG factory, hence the term "factory unlocked". LG sells this model that way. Warranty in tact.
here http://www.handtec.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?order=most_viewed&dir=desc&cat=0&q=lg+g4
real EU variants
Ok I know that just flicked through the thread and caught some one calling BS about not being able to buy unlocked as I bought mine direct from lg and it's unlocked, by not reading from the beginning I surmised it was about the boot loader.
This may be premature since the phones haven't shipped yet but when I go to order the phone on Google's website they give an option for a Verizon version with a sim card or an unlocked version. If both phones are the same except one has a locked bootloader then why bother to do this? Why not let Verizon sell their own variant with a locked bootloader? Are there any disadvantages or missing features when using the unlocked version on Verizon???
If both phones were the same and acted the same when on Verizon then I'd be royally pissed if I bought the Verizon pixel from Google's site only to find it had a locked bootloader. I'll bet that a lot of people will buy the Verizon version from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can still be unlocked because they bought it from Google and not at the Verizon store. I'm surprised more people aren't discussing this and warning others. In the past if you bought a gen. 1 pixel from the Google store it was guaranteed to be unlockable but now it doesn't seem to be the case and Verizon probably convinced Google to con purchasers into doing this since they get such a hard-on about locking bootloaders.
Now if the unlocked version doesn't work the same on the Verizon network (I.e. Volte does not work or signal strength isn't as good then I don't feel too bad about Google selling both variants directly from their store.
Thoughts??
I don't believe the Gen 1 Verizon pixel was ever intended to have an unlockable bootloader.
No it wasn't but there was no way to purchase a Verizon Gen 1 pixel from Google like there is for the Gen 2. If you wanted an unlocked bootloader you just bought the only pixel offered on the Google store. Now there is two options from the same store. I'm just worried that people will get the Verizon version from the Google store (not Verizon store) thinking that it's unlocked because they bought it from Google, not Verizon.
Do both phones (Verizon and unlocked versions) operate on the same bands with same features when activated on Verizon network?
The option for the version states that a SIM is included. My only guess is that they toss a SIM card in the box for you if you select Verizon.
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I was wondering the same thing, I plan on activating on Verizon when I receive my unlocked XL 2. But decided to buy the unlocked version just in case there was something stupid like a locked down bootloader or something weird.
I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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Go in and reorder it, I switched from a Panda Verizon XL 2 128gb that was gonna get delivered Nov7-9th to just black 128gb xl 2 unlocked which said Oct 25th. The shipping dates havent really changed much.
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I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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Same for me: no mention of Unlocked or Verizon on order acknowledgment...
If you are unsure, the advice to cancel and reorder is good, just with penalty of
later shipping.
I ordered mine while *slightly inebriated" last night. This morning I simply canceled my order and reordered it while 100% sober so that I knew 100% that I ordered an unlocked version and not the Verizon model. The order history didn't state unlocked or Verizon so I just wasn't sure... You can't be too sure of these types of things lol =)
Thanks for the post. I made the mistake of ordering the Verizon version. It does say this in the description on the order confirmation. Reordered and delivery date was reduced to October 27 from Nov 20.
(64 GB, Just Black, Verizon SIM-enabled
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It would be the first time for me to order a google (pixel) phone.
Im am from Germany, will the pixel from "Deutsche Telekom" (T-Mobile) be different than the one straight from the google store? :/
@EDIT: Asked the Support from Telekom Deutschland and tehy told me, that there isnt a difference between the Telekom Device and the Google Store Device in relation to Bootloader, updates or bloatware.
Can anyone verify if the unlocked version works the same as the Verizon version when on the Verizon network? Does volte and vvm work the same? Does the unlocked version have access to the same cell towers and lte bands? Or does Verizon cripple some features on the unlocked variant?
mattd860 said:
Can anyone verify if the unlocked version works the same as the Verizon version when on the Verizon network? Does volte and vvm work the same? Does the unlocked version have access to the same cell towers and lte bands? Or does Verizon cripple some features on the unlocked variant?
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On the old Pixel XL it worked the same on either model. I had an unlocked Pixel XL and a Verizon Pixel and they both worked the same with features. VoLTE and VVM both worked fine. The only difference was the unlocked model showed as "other" Pixel device with a generic picture in my Verizon account and the Verizon pixel showed as "Verizon Pixel" with an actual picture of the phone.
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Thanks for the post. I made the mistake of ordering the Verizon version. It does say this in the description on the order confirmation. Reordered and delivery date was reduced to October 27 from Nov 20.
(64 GB, Just Black, Verizon SIM-enabled
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Thanks for confirming. I think I'm ok then since it looks like the Verizon version actually states it in the order status.
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On the old Pixel XL it worked the same on either model. I had an unlocked Pixel XL and a Verizon Pixel and they both worked the same with features. VoLTE and VVM both worked fine. The only difference was the unlocked model showed as "other" Pixel device with a generic picture in my Verizon account and the Verizon pixel showed as "Verizon Pixel" with an actual picture of the phone.
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Thanks for confirming. I think I'm ok then since it looks like the Verizon version actually states it in the order status.
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Would this also apply if you order the Pixel 2 XL from Verizon directly?
This is happening exactly as I predicted. People are being duped into buying the Verizon pixel 2 from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can be unlocked because they purchased from the Google store instead of the Verizon store.
mattd860 said:
This is happening exactly as I predicted. People are being duped into buying the Verizon pixel 2 from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can be unlocked because they purchased from the Google store instead of the Verizon store.
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I can get the Verizon version directly from them through my work for $350, that is why I was wondering.
Can someone who ordered the Verizon Pixel show a snippet of the confirmation page?
If VZW version is the same as the unlocked one, and Google is simply throwing in the SIM card, insert the VZW SIM card after turn on the phone and unlock the bootloader.
Google Customer service confirmed to me on the phone that bootloader for Verizon version is locked but should get OS and security patch updates directly from Google if bought from Google Store. He wasn't sure about OS updates if phone is bought from Verizon.
nomifm said:
Google Customer service confirmed to me on the phone that bootloader for Verizon version is locked but should get OS and security patch updates directly from Google if bought from Google Store. He wasn't sure about OS updates if phone is bought from Verizon.
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Well last year was the Pixel different when ordering directly from Verizon with updates?
The boot loader unlocked really is not necessary in my case because I would be happy just to be on stock Android with regular updates.
I've been out of the game for a bit so I'm a little lost, are ALL the z2 phones boot loaders unlockable through the Motorola Devs site, or only the ones from Sprint and T-Mobile? I haven't been to my store to see which particular version of the Z2 they sell yet, but I'm also looking at the LG V30 which I know I need a specific version number (998). What do I need to look for before I buy the Z2 to make sure I can unlock it and flash TWRP?
I used to be an android tweaker back when I was in middle school (about 2009-ish) and then switched to apple. Now I'm done with that and want to get back into android so I'm looking into what phones are out and my tiny local cell carrier offers the V30 and the Z2 Force which are both contenders. I'm particularly interested in using Magisk which wasn't around back in the day
Thanks!
I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
Uzephi said:
I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.
wooddale said:
Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.
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stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now
mattlowry said:
stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now
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Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.
wooddale said:
Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.
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not unless someone finds an exploit. so i wouldnt hold your breath
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Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.
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Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.
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att and verizon = not unlockable
sprint and tmobile = unlockable
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att and verizon = not unlockable
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Well I'm not on any of those four lol, thats why I want to know if I can tell by serial number or something. Otherwise I suppose I can go buy the thing, try the moto website, and if it's not eligible I'll just tell my carrier I didn't like the phone and since the warranty should still be good they'll let me "test drive" it for two weeks.
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular
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(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
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So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks
wooddale said:
So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks
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Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.
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Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.
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Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.
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Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.
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That is why I left Vz. Great signal but I want unlock options. Having to use rumrunner on my HTC M7 was a pain compared to just going to HTCdev and accepting the voided warranty. HTCdev, Motorola unlock site, etc will always work. Programs like rumrunner, Sunshine, etc can be patched via update and not work on newer firmwares. No bueno in my book.
I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?
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I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?
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Usually it would require the Verizon flash all and then it depends if Lenovo went cheap and put the Verizon specific frequencies for LTE in all models. Most of the time each phone for different carriers are from different batches with tiny hardware differences. Some times the radio is the exact same and the modem firmware file depicts what frequencies are unlocked. (Most of us modders went away from Verizon for what my previous post explains, so possibly no one who has Verizon has tried to bite the bullet).
If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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Sorry missed the part about not owning I guess they won't carrier unlock unless you own
Uzephi said:
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
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hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then
ctrl+alt+pasta said:
hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then
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What MVNO do you use?
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What MVNO do you use?
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Not going to lie I had to look MVNO up but Wikipedia says Verizon. ****...so I guess that means I'm out of luck
EDIT: My company does sell the snapdragon Galaxy devices though. I know the boot loader is locked but they can still get root and I can still run exposed then right? It'll really suck not having a custom recovery but Xposed should give me enough to play with. I'll have to jump over to those forums
Hi, I bought a used one piexl3 xl from amazon (third party seller).
Condition and notes:
Used - Like New
Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked. Can be used with GSM and CDMA networks. Excellent condition, no scuffs, dents, scratches anywhere. Always in a case. Comes with original Box and all unused/new accessories. Comes with thin Black Spigen case. Warranty runs till end of this year with Google and goes with IMEI. Excellent deal and Priced to sell. I Ship Fedex with Signature.*
I guess it is rootble.But the OEM unlock is grey out. I am not sure it come from google verizon verison or verizon directly.
pls help me
thanks
ps since it is a used one. two verizon sms messages in my device and verizon app too.
maybe cheap deal is not a good one.:crying:
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Hi, I bought a used one piexl3 xl from amazon (third party seller).
Condition and notes:
Used - Like New
Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked. Can be used with GSM and CDMA networks. Excellent condition, no scuffs, dents, scratches anywhere. Always in a case. Comes with original Box and all unused/new accessories. Comes with thin Black Spigen case. Warranty runs till end of this year with Google and goes with IMEI. Excellent deal and Priced to sell. I Ship Fedex with Signature.*
I guess it is rootble.But the OEM unlock is grey out. I am not sure it come from google verizon verison or verizon directly.
pls help me
thanks
ps since it is a used one. two verizon sms messages in my device and verizon app too.
maybe cheap deal is not a good one.:crying:
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I don't think the phone you purchased is rootable. It sounds like it is a Verizon 'Carrier/Sims' unlocked phone, not a Google 'unlockable bootloader' Pixel3 XL.
Homeboy76 said:
I don't think the phone you purchased is rootable. It sounds like it is a Verizon 'Carrier' unlocked phone, not a Google 'unlockable bootloader' Pixel3 XL.
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thanks
Pretty sure verizon version has orange power button anx google green. The one i saw in verizon store had orange button
hilla_killa said:
Pretty sure verizon version has orange power button anx google green. The one i saw in verizon store had orange button
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I have the Verizon pixel 3 non xl, and it has a green power button
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Sickid said:
Hi, I bought a used one piexl3 xl from amazon (third party seller).
Condition and notes:
Used - Like New
Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked. Can be used with GSM and CDMA networks. Excellent condition, no scuffs, dents, scratches anywhere. Always in a case. Comes with original Box and all unused/new accessories. Comes with thin Black Spigen case. Warranty runs till end of this year with Google and goes with IMEI. Excellent deal and Priced to sell. I Ship Fedex with Signature.*
I guess it is rootble.But the OEM unlock is grey out. I am not sure it come from google verizon verison or verizon directly.
pls help me
thanks
ps since it is a used one. two verizon sms messages in my device and verizon app too.
maybe cheap deal is not a good one.:crying:
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You're description you posted answered your question. "Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked." Verizon
abranson said:
I have the Verizon pixel 3 non xl, and it has a green power button
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You're description you posted answered your question. "Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked." Verizon
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So fully global factory unlocked is just a joke :crying:
abranson said:
I have the Verizon pixel 3 non xl, and it has a green power button
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You're description you posted answered your question. "Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked." Verizon
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Anyway thanks to everyone. I just keep my pixel, and wait for good news for vzw. Root is an bounus for me.
Random note, unlocked Google pixel 3 models have an EID listed on the box vs the vzw version has an iccid. Also Verizon models have an imei starting with 35 vs Google's 99
SIM unlock and Bootloader unlock are two different things. It sounds like your phone is a Verizon SIM unlocked phone which allows you to use on any network with any SIM. But from what I understand, at the moment, all Verizon Pixel 3 phones are bootloader locked. They cannot be rooted nor Bootloader unlocked.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
StykerB said:
Random note, unlocked Google pixel 3 models have an EID listed on the box vs the vzw version has an iccid. Also Verizon models have an imei starting with 35 vs Google's 99
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Yep, you are totally right.
People really need to start understanding the difference between carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked. You received exactly what was advertised.
spotmark said:
People really need to start understanding the difference between carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked. You received exactly what was advertised.
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Too funny when even the carrier argents don't know the difference and spout off the same misinformation as private sells and those who purchase from them.
I mean really, when it's stated unlocked it means carrier unlocked. A bootloader unlock would never be described as that. It would say bootloader unlockable or bootloader not unlockable. If a CSR says unlocked it can only mean one thing. On the Google store the Pixel 3s are either Fi, Verizon or unlocked. Does anyone really thing they mean bootloader unlocked?
So from now on when you hear unlocked you now know what it means. If the description is bootloader unlocked you also know what it means. Mr. Verizon man before I buy the phone I'd like to know if the phone is unlocked. Yes, of course it is. You get the device and can't unlock the bootloader. Now whose fault is that?
It seems that Sprint and T-Mobile US both offer the Pixel 3/3 XL/3a/3a XL. Would Sprint/T-Mobile Pixels allow bootloader unlocking (unlike the Verizon versions)?
AFAIK, only verizon model has locked bootloader. There is no special model for Sprint/T-Mobile. This is only for the 3/3xl, 3a/3aXL is not out is not out yet. Nobody would really know.
wangdaning said:
AFAIK, only verizon model has locked bootloader. There is no special model for Sprint/T-Mobile. This is only for the 3/3xl, 3a/3aXL is not out is not out yet. Nobody would really know.
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I was doing work at a T-Mobile store today, and they just got a shipment of the pixel 3a and pixel 3axl today. Don't say they aren't out. They had a demo out for the xl. Bootloader was locked also. Was unable to get developer options enabled on the regular 3a
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abranson said:
I was doing work at a T-Mobile store today, and they just got a shipment of the pixel 3a and pixel 3axl today. Don't say they aren't out. They had a demo out for the xl. Bootloader was locked also. Was unable to get developer options enabled on the regular 3a
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Next time I'm at T-Mobile, I'll have to get pics, but I replace the hand scanners that go with T-Mobile iPads. Only way I knew they got them in today.
abranson said:
I was doing work at a T-Mobile store today, and they just got a shipment of the pixel 3a and pixel 3axl today.
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Fair enough, but not many people have bought them or had time to play around with such things. There is not even a forum for them. I hope they make one or the Pixel 3/XL forums will be flooded with two devices each.
wangdaning said:
Fair enough, but not many people have bought them or had time to play around with such things. There is not even a forum for them. I hope they make one or the Pixel 3/XL forums will be flooded with two devices each.
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There is one, but it's empty, only due to it being announced today.
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wangdaning said:
Fair enough, but not many people have bought them or had time to play around with such things. There is not even a forum for them. I hope they make one or the Pixel 3/XL forums will be flooded with two devices each.
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There is one, but it's empty, only due to it being announced today.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3a
abranson said:
I was doing work at a T-Mobile store today, and they just got a shipment of the pixel 3a and pixel 3axl today. Don't say they aren't out. They had a demo out for the xl. Bootloader was locked also. Was unable to get developer options enabled on the regular 3a.
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They could be "demo" units where developer options had to be locked (otherwise people could just steal phones by enabling OEM unlocking and running off). The Sprint/T-Mo Pixels may allow bootloader unlocking, they may not, who knows? I'd still prefer to buy carrier unlocked myself, but if the Sprint/T-Mo are bootloader unlocked then that makes my life easier if I buy used (or from a carrier).
I remember reading that the demo units of the European LG G5 were bootloader locked (maybe developer options grayed out) even when the retail versions weren't, so the Pixel 3/3a (XL) may be the same. But that was in 2016 (when I was hoping my Sprint LG G4 got bootloader unlocked somehow).
neelchauhan said:
They could be "demo" units where developer options had to be locked (otherwise people could just steal phones by enabling OEM unlocking and running off). The Sprint/T-Mo Pixels may allow bootloader unlocking, they may not, who knows? I'd still prefer to buy unlocked myself, but if the Sprint/T-Mo are bootloader unlocked then that makes my life easier if I buy used (or from a carrier).
I remember reading that the demo units of the European LG G5 were bootloader locked (maybe developer options grayed out) even when the retail versions weren't, so the Pixel 3/3a (XL) may be the same. But that was in 2016 (when I was hoping my Sprint LG G4 got bootloader unlocked somehow).
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It's possible. The manager was just tinkering with one he had bought this morning. The xl was a demo, but IDK. Anything is possible these days
neelchauhan said:
They could be "demo" units where developer options had to be locked (otherwise people could just steal phones by enabling OEM unlocking and running off). The Sprint/T-Mo Pixels may allow bootloader unlocking, they may not, who knows? I'd still prefer to buy carrier unlocked myself, but if the Sprint/T-Mo are bootloader unlocked then that makes my life easier if I buy used (or from a carrier).
I remember reading that the demo units of the European LG G5 were bootloader locked (maybe developer options grayed out) even when the retail versions weren't, so the Pixel 3/3a (XL) may be the same. But that was in 2016 (when I was hoping my Sprint LG G4 got bootloader unlocked somehow).
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Sorry, please delete my comment. 8t appears I was speaking on incents last night.
smartymcfly said:
You can't enable unlocking oem unless you unlocked the bootloader first. You need to use a cpu to do that. Unlockable bootloaders would never be shipped to retail in an unlocked state.
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What are you smoking? You have to enable oem unlocking in developer options in order to unlock bootloader
And this is a Sprint pixel 3 xl, unfortunately it looks like we will not be able to get root
rayraycarter4 said:
And this is a Sprint pixel 3 xl, unfortunately it looks like we will not be able to get root
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And here I was thinking of changing from the V40 to the Google Pixel 3XL
Sent from my LG V40 using XDA Labs
rayraycarter4 said:
And this is a Sprint pixel 3 xl, unfortunately it looks like we will not be able to get root
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Darn.
Would it be possible to enable OEM unlocking after SIM unlocking (like the T-Mobile OnePlus), or is this impossible.
One person on Reddit says T-Mobile Pixels allow bootloader unlocking: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/bmjw8x/pixel_3_bootloaders_can_be_unlocked/.
However, a T-Mobile employee said that you need to pay off the device before BL unlocking a T-Mo Pixel (like T-Mo OnePlus): https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/bm9ayz/tmobile_says_pixel_3_devices_can_be_bootloader/.
As for sprint version, can we just flash the regular pixel firmware over sprints locked down version?
DR4LUC0N said:
As for sprint version, can we just flash the regular pixel firmware over sprints locked down version?
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No.
About Sprint, I am assuming it's the same game as T-Mobile: you need to SIM unlock before you can bootloader unlock. I could be wrong.
DR4LUC0N said:
As for sprint version, can we just flash the regular pixel firmware over sprints locked down version?
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There is no such thing as a Sprint software version, or a Verizon software version. There is only one software version, from Google.
TonikJDK said:
There is no such thing as a Sprint software version, or a Verizon software version. There is only one software version, from Google.
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Maybe you need to check google on that. I am not aware of sprint or tmobile, but the verizon model does live among us.
got my 3axl today from sprint. OEM locked.. ill be a guinea pig. dont really care if the phone bricks
wangdaning said:
Maybe you need to check google on that. I am not aware of sprint or tmobile, but the verizon model does live among us.
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The software is the same on both. Can't believe after all this time this topic still comes up.