A70 "Super fast charging" ! Really ? - Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers

Hi guys,
For those having the A70, does the "Super Fast Charging" feature work for you ?
With the original provided charger (with the "Super Fast Charging" logo on it), I need 3 hours to go from 9% to 100%.
So that is 1% every 2 minutes...
I do not consider this a "Super fast". I think it is "Decent" but would not go above that...
For me, this a severe disappointment... Unless of course I am doing something wrong
Anyone else can share his results for Super fast charging here ?
Regards.

Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.

JesuuBL said:
Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
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Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !

Pe3ball said:
Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
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Hi,
Thanks for the info => Super Fast Charging only with display off ?
So if I leave "Always On" it will not work ?
Maybe that is why...
Anyways, I did as you suggested : I have done a full factory reset, and I have installed the bare minimum of Apps.
We will see about battery drain an battery charging.
I'll keep you posted.
Best regards.

https://imge.to/i/8E6
Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled

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https://imge.to/i/8E6
Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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Hi Sufyan3D,
Thanks a lot for that info...
I've made sure that the fast charge is enabled.
So far, the device is still at 100% so I can't say if the problem is "solved", but I'll make sure to report if now it charges as it should
And also about battery drain...
Regards.

That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!

Pe3ball said:
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
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Hi,
So far, I cannot tell about the Fast charge.
But the phone is almost idle (really gently used) with "Always on" enabled.
It's been idle since about 3hours and battery is at 98%.
I consider this a rather good result.
Hope it'll stay as it is once I install all my apps...
If not, I'll try to track the culprit for the high battery drain.
Regards.

I have same problem, after reading your post, I drained my battery to 9% and charge, it so slow while charging.
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It's pretty fast just over a hour and near full charge from 20% , pretty solid so far took it of charge at 7am and at 7:30pm still on 54% and been on it all day taking photos /slow mo vids web browsing the norm and still going strong!! [emoji2]
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Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
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Download a free app called "Ampere" from the Play Store, to measure your charging current. Plug the phone into the charger then open the App to get the measurements. Post your result here and compare with other A70 owners.
App shows that my charging current is around 1100mah (with the 25w charger)

I landed here as I was surprised how slow my A70 was to charge. It takes around 3 hours to get from 15% to full, using the included Samsung 3A charger & original cable. Ampere shows the current trickling in at around 850mA. Super Fast Charging is enabled. My previous phone was a Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite which charged at around 2A according to Ampere.
PS I found this link which suggests most of the fast charging happens early in the cycle https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/02/how-fast-is-samsung-25w-super-fast-charging

The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?

GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?

dwl99 said:
Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
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I've never tested it. I have fast charge turned off. I charge my phone over night. The battery lasts me all day every day.

Samsung A70 Failed!!
I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.

ErHarinderSingh said:
I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I am not facing such issues in my device. Regarding development, for a device like a70, development is always slow. We have the source codes available. The only thing missing is developers onboarding to support the device. If at least 1 dev puts the kernel and device source codes and tree in github, I bet development will start soon after.

GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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I took some readings with Ampere during a charge:
0 mins 8% battery 4050mA
30 mins 38% battery 1060mA
60 mins 52% battery 1050mA
90 mins 66% battery 1020mA
120 mins 81% battery 1080mA
150 mins 91% battery 1000mA
180 mins 100% battery
So 3h from nearly empty to full which is not exactly fast. Is this in line with what others get?

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Long charging duration. What should I do? Confused! Please advice.

Guys this issue is annoying me. My device is having some charging problems. I have measured the charging time for last two charges, and its taking 3 hours 40 mins for 10% to 100%, and 4 hours from 0% to 100%. Where most people are saying it takes around 3 hours, from a complete drain to full 100%.
So have any of you guys ever measured the actual time of charging? A lots of comments I see say around this or around that, or from 2 hours to 3 hours, well that's not what I need. If anyone has measured the time then please post here. I'm thinking about going to SC, but I don't wanna go there until I'm totally sure that there is a problem.
PS: I'm talking about Stock charger, (2A) plugged in AC power source. And device should be on, not off.
Btw- There should be a technical answer to this, the charging current is 2A and the battery is 3100 mAh, so how could I do the math?
Thanks in advance.
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I don't know the math stuff but why don't you try calibrating the battery - worth trying !
Knowing that info is only half the truth. How the phone charges the battery and how much energy your phone uses during the charge matters too.
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The time taken to charge is a pretty simple mathematical formula. But the rest of the calculation is complicated.
If you phone is on, how bright is the screen, is the display on or off, are you on wifi or network data, are you syncing email every 15 minutes or every hour, are you using the phone to send messages during charge, have you got gmail, dropbox, facebook, instagram, whatsapp, etc etc etc all doing a sync at regular intervals during the charge?
All of those things will use up some of the charge as its going in, so the charger is fighting against you.
I've been charging off usb at work and struggled to gain 20% in 8 hours because of my usage pattern.
Theoretical time for charge is about 1:30 hrs. Reality, start and ending charge should slow down (for safety), heat slow downs, plus usage of phone as spoken above I guess it could take up to 3 hrs.
It's not great to do a full charge regularly. I tend to keep mine between 40-90% for maximum life cycle of battery.
Perhaps try resetting battery stats? Try a different 2a charger?
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wisewood said:
The time taken to charge is a pretty simple mathematical formula. But the rest of the calculation is complicated.
If you phone is on, how bright is the screen, is the display on or off, are you on wifi or network data, are you syncing email every 15 minutes or every hour, are you using the phone to send messages during charge, have you got gmail, dropbox, facebook, instagram, whatsapp, etc etc etc all doing a sync at regular intervals during the charge?
All of those things will use up some of the charge as its going in, so the charger is fighting against you.
I've been charging off usb at work and struggled to gain 20% in 8 hours because of my usage pattern.
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I was testing how long it takes to charge, so I didn't even touch the phone while it was charging.
JLneonhug said:
Theoretical time for charge is about 1:30 hrs. Reality, start and ending charge should slow down (for safety), heat slow downs, plus usage of phone as spoken above I guess it could take up to 3 hrs.
It's not great to do a full charge regularly. I tend to keep mine between 40-90% for maximum life cycle of battery.
Perhaps try resetting battery stats? Try a different 2a charger?
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1:30 hours? Could you kindly explain how?
And I've wiped my device fully, also reseted battery stats.
One thing I'd to next is, I'll turn the device off and see how long it takes then.
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jujuburi said:
Guys this issue is annoying me. My device is having some charging problems. I have measured the charging time for last two charges, and its taking 3 hours 40 mins for 10% to 100%, and 4 hours from 0% to 100%. Where most people are saying it takes around 3 hours, from a complete drain to full 100%.
So have any of you guys ever measured the actual time of charging? A lots of comments I see say around this or around that, or from 2 hours to 3 hours, well that's not what I need. If anyone has measured the time then please post here. I'm thinking about going to SC, but I don't wanna go there until I'm totally sure that there is a problem.
PS: I'm talking about Stock charger, (2A) plugged in AC power source. And device should be on, not off.
Btw- There should be a technical answer to this, the charging current is 2A and the battery is 3100 mAh, so how could I do the math?
Thanks in advance.
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Mine takes 2.5 hrs to charge from 10% to 100% with phone on using stock wall charger and cable (when charged continuosly with no activity on phone). It charged from 1% to 96% in 2.5 hrs with phone switched off (switched it on exactly after 2.5 hrs to check). But, usually i avoid charging my phones to full 100% (also always charge it when at 10%).
Dpk1 said:
Mine takes 2.5 hrs to charge from 10% to 100% with phone on using stock wall charger and cable (when charged continuosly with no activity on phone). It charged from 1% to 96% in 2.5 hrs with phone switched off (switched it on exactly after 2.5 hrs to check). But, usually i avoid charging my phones to full 100% (also always charge it when at 10%).
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Try with another note 2 charger first. The thing with these chargers is they will behave erratically when there is voltage fluctuation or if you use in a train and other cases. So go to SC and tell them its taking almost double time for me to get charged. They will replace the charger as well the cable. My cousin has the same problem with s3. He got it replaced by the SC.
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Thanks Chaitanya. But the SC guys are so stupid here. First thing they do always are to take the phone in their custody and deal with it badly. Still I will ask them to replace the charger and check.
Some of us have noted that if you let the screen time out and not manually shut screen off after connecting the charger. ..The charging is faster. . If you manually shut off the screen. .. The charging is slow.... It is weird but don't know why. .it definitely is happening
handwritten from my note 2 (N7100)
Mine takes about 3 hours to charge fully from 15 %
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Op: I said theoretical it will take 1:30.. Realistically it should slow down during stages due to safety reasons.
Mine took probably 3 hours the other day I ran it down, but this was combination of using 1a and 2a charger.
I think on the note 2 it doesn't ramp up power till it gets to 20-30%. Took a while to get there from 2%. If only battery widget was working on the note 2..then I could confirm.
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Are you using the charger that came with Note2 ? I was using my old blackberry charger and it took for ever to charge the phone.
The output of the Note2's charger is more than twice the output of my blackberry charger.
^ Yeah, of course I am using the stock charger that came with Note 2! I'd not create this topic if I had used another charger.
Anyway, after a long week in Service Center now my phone is back, they provided me a new charging adapter (not the cable) and I was very happy because I thought everything will be smooth and like before but guess what? No improvement. It's still taking long! I just measured it for 30 mins exactly, it went from 70 to 83%, i.e 13%, where it should be 24% as stated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33585646&postcount=31
Now I am really angry. I will try with another Note 2 USB cable first, if that fails, there is something wrong with the device, I guess?
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^ Yeah, of course I am using the stock charger that came with Note 2! I'd not create this topic if I had used another charger.
Anyway, after a long week in Service Center now my phone is back, they provided me a new charging adapter (not the cable) and I was very happy because I thought everything will be smooth and like before but guess what? No improvement. It's still taking long! I just measured it for 30 mins exactly, it went from 70 to 83%, i.e 13%, where it should be 24% as stated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33585646&postcount=31
Now I am really angry. I will try with another Note 2 USB cable first, if that fails, there is something wrong with the device, I guess?
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I really don't think it's your device or your battery for that matter. I have a question as well (sorry to hijack...). When you were charging it for 30 mins, were you using it? Was the screen off or the phone totally turned off? I noticed one night that I had an email notification and the phone did not charge because the notification LED was on all night while I slept and it was plugged into my 1A Samsung charger from my original Note. I have yet to check if the charging disconnects itself if the LED comes on. I don't even know if the phone charges at all if the screen is on either. Can anyone confirm? I guess I'll try it out tonight! The battery last forever I got to admit, perhaps most of the time I'm slow charging it at 1A max with the original Note's charger? I guess it does the battery some good
Thanks a bunch!
No pal I am not using the device while charging (because I am testing and measuring the times, that's why I restrain myself from touching it), and it's on, not off.
Anyway, yesterday I went to a friend's home and found he has a Samsung ACE and has same USB port like Note's and I was carrying the charging adapter, so I took that Ace's cable and plugged in to my Note's adapter and let it charge for an hour, and I was amazed and happy to see that it increased 38% in 60 mins. Well this tells me that the USB cable of my Note 2 is gone to heaven.
And oh, if you charge and use the device at the same time it will charge pretty fast even then too. I can confirm this when I first got the device, always was using it and charging, and I was surprised to even then how fast it was charging.
I (and many other users) have similar problems with Galaxy S3. I've made an app that shows the actual charging current: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076078
I'm not sure if it works on the Note 2, but it is worth a try.
Please check if your device is charging at the optimal charging current (I think it is 2000mA for the Note 2 charger, instead of 1000mA as pointed in the SGS3 thread).

Very slow charging...

Is anyone else experiencing this problem or is it just how long it takes to charge this tab?
Plugged into the charger for an hour with the tablet off and it's only charged 15%. So it's going to take 6 and a half hours to fully charge?
Also the battery seems to die pretty quickly from just normal Web browsing. From 40 to 15% in an hr.
Battery life / charging / Simpsons tapped out lags / lots of stuttering with TouchWiz...
I want to be happy with this tab but it hasn't been easy
My battery life improves after a few charging cycles. I found Samsung charger is slow but not too bad. Mine charges about 30% an hour with tablet powered on but not in use. It goes a lot faster when using Nook HD charger, though both have 2.0A output.
My Note 3 charges so much faster that it's not even funny. And considering it's 10000 mAh...
Yep charges super slow. No idea why. Also drains super fast surfing web. People talk about getting 8 hours on this. Im lucky to get 4 but then again i like brightness high.
Use a launcher to improve Touchwiz stutter (funny that some folks complain about this stutter thing - on 10.5 have never experienced it even without a launcher).
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Is anyone else experiencing this problem or is it just how long it takes to charge this tab?
Plugged into the charger for an hour with the tablet off and it's only charged 15%. So it's going to take 6 and a half hours to fully charge?
Also the battery seems to die pretty quickly from just normal Web browsing. From 40 to 15% in an hr.
Battery life / charging / Simpsons tapped out lags / lots of stuttering with TouchWiz...
I want to be happy with this tab but it hasn't been easy
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Try to power down for a few minutes and then see if there was a difference after you powered on.
You can also check the task manager to see what is running on your system.
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Peter234 said:
Try to power down for a few minutes and then see if there was a difference after you powered on.
You can also check the task manager to see what is running on your system.
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I always kill apps when I'm done with them. Guess I'll give rooting and removing all the Samsung apps a shot.
I got some decent battery life out of mine when I had it about 6-8 hours mixed use. Def noticed a big drop when surfing the web using white backgrounds. Charging also was painfully slow on mine I think around 3-4 hours from 0 to full charge for me when not in use.
It's been a staple of their latest tablets unfortunately. Just make sure you're using the stock cable/adapter as some of the aftermarkets don't have enough power. For example, I have a 10 foot cable but it only puts out one third the power then the included power cable using the same adapter.
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Try using Galaxy Charging Current lite it helped me. I was using a Anker intelligent charger and it took forever to charge it. App showed current at 350-450mA. Used Samsungs and it showed 1800mA.
I have to agree, just received the tablet today albeit stressed out to the max because the fedex guy marked it as delivered when it wasn't to squeeze out extra minutes for a break (seriously?!?) I thought it got ripped off! So, back to the battery, I turned on the tab, beautiful this thing is by the way...and was at 62% out of the box. I began charging it using the included power cable and adapter, and 3 hours later I realized just how long this was taking to charge. Granted I was using it practically the whole time, I am hoping a higher amp charger will fix this for me.
Yup it took me 5.5 hours to charge fully. I'd be lucky if i get 5 hours of usage before the juice runs out.
8.4 inch charges fines here. 2.5 hours max, powered on or off.
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Charge time isn’t particularly fast on any of the devices, but the 10.5-inch model in particular takes a while to make it to a full charge. The 10.5 will reach a 90% charge in just under 4 hours, but to make it to 97% takes another hour and the last 3% takes another 42 minutes on top of that. Usable charge time is competitive, but if you’re obsessive about always charging to 100% the 10.5-inch model does take a while to get there.​​
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
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Charge time isn’t particularly fast on any of the devices, but the 10.5-inch model in particular takes a while to make it to a full charge. The 10.5 will reach a 90% charge in just under 4 hours, but to make it to 97% takes another hour and the last 3% takes another 42 minutes on top of that. Usable charge time is competitive, but if you’re obsessive about always charging to 100% the 10.5-inch model does take a while to get there.​​
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
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Mine seems to charge quicker than what is stated on that chart. Will have to time it from 0% next time.
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The charger that comes with the tab s is the same all new galaxy devices are shipping with. They do 5.3volts instead of just 5 volts. You will get a little quicker charge with the stock charger.
I get a legit 6-8 hours SOT mixed use
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Slow charging NO charging
I hope this is okay to post here since it is a charging problem. I am on my third SM t-800. Mine stop charging all together! First one charged one time then stopped. Second on would not charge at all, It used up its factory 45% that it shipped with and nothing more. Third one was best by far and charged untill this moring and has stopped. Now, here are the details. I checked the cord by pluging into my note 3 on all of them. Infact my wifes Note 2. They charge fine. I don't have my ameter to check ampers but they clearly are delivering volts to the other devices. Now get this. I have a Bose external speaker that uses a mini usb. I plugged that one into the tablet and it is charging right now. Of note I had a concern that maybe some how the socket was bumped on the tab and somehow messed it up. But that is a long shot since the first two were used while only on a desk. So this third one has been supper "babied". I'm so frustrated right now.
BTW my first tab charged very slowly. 6-7 hours or so. Maybe more? I feel at this point the pins in the tab are not making contact. Any thoughts?
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Just got of the horn w/ Samsung. Got issue taken care of. In short, the phone tech mentioned ampreage and I yanked the AC transformer off the wall and checked it. The factory transformer is 5.3v. 2.00ampers. In the dark last night i plugged into a "white" charger. An ipad charger I think, that is 5.2v. 2.4amp transformer. I switched the cord to the corect transformer and the tab is charging. Apparenty the chip in the tab was protecting the unit from over ampreage and it shut down charging. I know better than this and feel like a fool but thought I should let you all know what happened. This brings up a issue. Slow charging.... could the slowness be caused by a transformer with say 1.5 amps? Maybe the tab will let it charge but at a slow rate? Just a thought. Moral of the story for me? Plug in the tab in a lighted area, and into the correct charger.
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Embarrased
Charging is a little slow, but the battery is large, so i accept that, but when it's charged 100% it lasts for ages. Faster charging shortens the life of the battery anyway. I could easily get 7- 8 hours constant surfing out of this tab. I've been on it now for over 2hrs surfing and it's used 13% . I always use auto brightness.
I get 6-8 hrs of mixed use, YouTube, surfing the Web and some movies with a little gaming. It takes me around 4 hrs to fully charge. Battery life is average. I'm using a 10.5 LTE.
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ashyx said:
Faster charging shortens the life of the battery anyway.
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Technically this is not true at all. It is heat that hurts batteries. You can charge as fast as you want as long as you keep it cold. That being said, Lithium Ion batteries will take a much faster charge rate and not cause heat. You could easily charge this battery in 2 hours, but the common chargers aren't that powerful.

Very slow charging

Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..
jauhien said:
The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
I'm having literally no issues with charging from dead to 25% in about 15 minutes. 2 hours to 100% im very happy with the speed of charging and this is using my m8 charger as the m9 one is still sealed in box.
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MattMJB0188 said:
No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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I went with this one and it working like a champ, 30% to 100% in 50 min
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QTJZ3D0/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been using the GS4 charger, with a high output cable. The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A
the supplied charger is definitely giving 1.5 amps to mine. charges up pretty quick. with a quickcharge 2.0 charger it's crazy fast to charge.
One thing to note is it will take a faster charge the lower the battery level is, which means more heat. if you're also gaming with it, you could be bumping against the battery charging cutoff temperature. I only ever saw this happen on my Tegra HOX+. IIRC HTC has the notification LED blink in alternating green and orange/red when this happens. I'm guessing you would have mentioned temperature in the OP if this was the case, but I figured I'd bring it up.
gonzo237 said:
The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A
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Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere.. furthermore both handhelds are charging fast - otherwise if the cable is a problem..
jauhien said:
Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere..
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Sorry, meant it was 1.5a for HTC and 2.0a for the Samsung one. Didn't have them on hand to check.
iPhone 5 battery is 1,440 mAh... M9 battery is 2,840 mAh. 50% charge of Iphone battery doesn't equal 50% charge of M9 battery, in terms of charge time.
I believe the rate of charging to decrease while you use it to prevent the phone from overheating. (My M8 does this as well)
My stock charger is fast, and my quick charge 2.0 is crazy fast.
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....
as someone who had a nexus 6 with turbo charging. this is bad. charging is so slow.
joetang97 said:
If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....
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I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.
MattMJB0188 said:
I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.
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Yeah, this. I got an HTC Rapid Charger 2.0 for it just to be sure since I knew with certainty it's Quick Charge 2.0. In retrospect perhaps not the best move considering I'm essentially incentivising HTC for not including one in the box from the get go, but whatever.
MattMJB0188 said:
No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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Yup i got the same issue gonna take me 6-11hrs to charge and its very slow charging
I had a similar problem to OP. The second night I had my phone I plugged it in at 11 pm with about 5% battery left and went to bed. At 5:15 the next morning (6 hours later) it was only at 85%. I can't tell if there's still a problem or I just think there is because I'm paranoid about it now. I haven't run my battery down that low since, and looking at the charge current with Ampere seems somewhat inconclusive. I may have to run it down and then keep an eye on it while charging to see what's going on.
Something IS wrong with SOME M9 phones (I think)
I have one of the "bad" ones. Mine takes hours and hours to charge, whether on the cable and plug that came in the box, or on any others that I have around - some I know are 2 Amps. I think there is something seriously wrong with some of these phones, based on what I am reading in this thread, and on my own example. I have had my M9 for just a few days.
I'd like to post a follow up to this thread after having the phone for a couple of weeks now.
I've had several occurrences where my phone didn't fully charge overnight. The worst was a few days ago, I plugged it in at 5% and the next morning (6-8 hours) it was at 1%, it actually lost charge. I noticed before unplugging it so I looked at the history in Battery Widget Reborn and it showed the battery level just slowly dropped from 5% to 1% without any jumps or dips. The battery icon at the top of the screen showed it was charging but it died at that point so I didn't get a chance to open Ampere.
I think it's the charger (and/or the cable) that came with the phone. I've tried several other chargers that have all worked reliably:
- The QuickCharge 2.0 charger that came with my wife's S6 charges my phone really fast.
- I have a Kmashi external battery that also seems to charge it relatively quickly.
- Two older chargers that are several years old (both rated 5 volts at 0.7 amps) charge it from around 30% to full in 3-5 hours.
At first I thought it might have been a wakelock problem, but the battery has been dropping so slowly when the phone is just sitting in my pocket that I'm confident now that it's not wakelocks. I don't know if HTC is likely to send a replacement, but I'm going to stop into the Verizon store that I got the phone from to see if they'll replace it.
Gilligan
My phone is also odd when charging.
Half of the time it takes 6 hours or more to charge. If I look at GSAM battery monitor it shows a charge current of around 350mA. If I then unplug the charger and reconnect after 15 seconds I get over 1300mA charging current, most of the time. (It takes GSAM a while to show an accurate reading). Occasionally it will take a few tries to get it right. Once I get a good reading over 1300mA the phone will charge in 1.5 hours like it should.
Something very buggy about this phone's charging circuit. I get the same behaviour with all chargers and cables, even my battery bank.
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Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I use a 2A tablet charger from my hp touchpad. Charges from dead to 100% in 45 minutes.

Battery hold from 11% to 0%

Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
TodNex said:
Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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That's pretty weird
My 3a xl (about the same age as yours) doesn't use more than 10% max when left overnight. Are you using AOD or anything?
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@Skittles9823 nothing beside stock Android and apps that I've used forever. Strange is that it's occasional - also occassional is initial drain from 100% to 92%.
Maybe its time to flash it - nothing suspicious is shown in batt stats
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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@Skittles9823
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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I think popular wisdom is that both fast charging and in particular charging to 100% are not kind to the battery's longivety. Divided opinion about the effect of discharging to low percentages. Personally I charge to between 70 and 80% unless I know I'm going to need more capacity. 3a XL has a bigish battery, which helps. I recharge most nights but only to 70-80%. End of day I usually end up between high 40's and low 30's charge.
I manually set all apps I don't actually need to run in background to 'restricted' background use.
I charge mine up to a 100% often, when using it heavy.. I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it, unless you believe everything that is told or should I say sold to you.. Sounds like a faulty battery. If still under the 1 yr usual warranty I would have it replaced. I have drained mine down to less than 20% and still never experience any issue that OP state.
doubledragon5 said:
I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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It's actually true. Lithium Ion batters degrade over time, the speed of which, depends on the amount of battery cycles they go through (0-100% and vice versa). Others have done the research and the math and found that generally a 20% to 80% and vice versa charge seems to be the best for longevity.
Personally I charge to 100 but try to charge my phone when it gets to 20-30%.
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using XDA Labs
doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
WibblyW said:
Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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So very true my phone my money. In all my years of using cell phones, I think I have actually replaced a battery once because it went bad.
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
TodNex said:
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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The included charger is a fast charger, good for headlining how fast it charges, not so great for the battery. I just use a 'standard' (Anker) USB charger.
Jury's out on if deeper discharge is bad, but it's the number of complete cycles (0-100% counting as 1). So 40 - 80% is 0.4 of a full cycle, and you're not stressing the battery so much by taking it to 100%. Many folk here replace their phones frequently enough not to be bothered by all this - if they sell it when 20% of the battery capacity's gone, that's fine.
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
TodNex said:
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
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The good news is that this phone seems to be pretty easy to repair and a battery replacement could very well be a good option for you, especially since you wouldn't be compromising any water resistance or anything

Slow Charging Speed | Super fast charging not working

My S20+ exynos is charging slowly. Its taking around 1 hr 40 min - 2 hr to charge from 5 to 100. Super fast charging is turned on and when i plug in it states 1 hr 10 min to charge. This seems to be happening from last 4-5 charge cycles. Phone is on latest software(ATCT). Any ideas what to do.
For me it takes 1h5m mostly (15%-100%)
Maybe do you have bad USB cable?
Tapatalk - SM-G986B
If you are using a cable other than what came with the phone, that is usually the culprit.
0kti said:
For me it takes 1h5m mostly (15%-100%)
Maybe do you have bad USB cable?
Tapatalk - SM-G986B
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How do i check the cable is faulty ? I tried a cable from my prev phone (Nexus 6P) it wasn't any different .
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If you are using a cable other than what came with the phone, that is usually the culprit.
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nope. Cable is the same that came with the phone
sjandroiddeveloper said:
My S20+ exynos is charging slowly. Its taking around 1 hr 40 min - 2 hr to charge from 5 to 100. Super fast charging is turned on and when i plug in it states 1 hr 10 min to charge. This seems to be happening from last 4-5 charge cycles. Phone is on latest software(ATCT). Any ideas what to do.
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Bro I am facing the exact same issue on my galaxy S20 exynos. I think it is due to the April update installed, as I saw many comments regarding S20 ultras slow charging speed after the update. Anyways please let me know if you find a solution.
vanditsadaphale said:
Bro I am facing the exact same issue on my galaxy S20 exynos. I think it is due to the April update installed, as I saw many comments regarding S20 ultras slow charging speed after the update. Anyways please let me know if you find a solution.
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This might explain something... apparently ATCT was pulled
https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-pulls-latest-galaxy-s20-ultra-update-following-user-complaints
heslo.rb26 said:
This might explain something... apparently ATCT was pulled
https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-pulls-latest-galaxy-s20-ultra-update-following-user-complaints
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Pulled? Mine's just downloaded it this morning!
Think i'll postpone the update for the time being then
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Pulled? Mine's just downloaded it this morning!
Think i'll postpone the update for the time being then
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Maybe it's only recent or in certain regions? Either way it's clear it has some issues. I've noticed charging issues on ATCT myself
Funny... I've been thinking about *not* using the Samsung 25W charger that came with the phone and use an older sub-10W charger based on the idea that pumping huge current into the battery quickly prematurely shortens its life.
Plenty of articles talk about this.
The cynic in me thinks that manufacturers are pushing the convenience of warp/super/ultra/whatever fast charging knowing full well that users will F**K up their batteries at ever faster rates than before, thus creating a growing captive market for their latest mega-fast charging phones.
All my previous devices had replaceable batteries so I was less concerned with longevity, but having shelled out a not modest sum for the S20 (all my previous phones were superseded eBay items) I really want to get the longest life possible out of it.
I've got it plugged into an HP 1.5A USB charger and Accubattery thinks it should get from 35% to my target 80% in 1h16min, which I think is acceptable. I bought the fast travel charger and fast car charger at the same time, so I'll reserve these for "emergency" recharging and not use them by default.
Anyone else with similar thoughts?
It could be the April update. Mine says "Super fast charging" while I'm plugged into my 25W brick, BUT it only says "Cable charging" if I charge it through my laptop (USB-C) while previously it said "Fast charging". Has anybody experienced the same?
sjandroiddeveloper said:
My S20+ exynos is charging slowly. Its taking around 1 hr 40 min - 2 hr to charge from 5 to 100. Super fast charging is turned on and when i plug in it states 1 hr 10 min to charge. This seems to be happening from last 4-5 charge cycles. Phone is on latest software(ATCT). Any ideas what to do.
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Bro I just found a solution. Not the best but it works. My phone heated like hell even when idle and of course while charging too which resulted in slow charging speed, so what I did is wrap a cold cotton cloth around it while charging to keep it cool, and boom 50% charged in 30 mins. Earlier it took 1 hour for 50% charge.
For the cold cloth, I wet a handkerchief and squeezed the water out, thus ensuring there is no water to deal any damage (although the phone is ip68 rated).
Of course this is not a permanent solution but it works.
Hope it helps :good:
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sjandroiddeveloper said:
My S20+ exynos is charging slowly. Its taking around 1 hr 40 min - 2 hr to charge from 5 to 100. Super fast charging is turned on and when i plug in it states 1 hr 10 min to charge. This seems to be happening from last 4-5 charge cycles. Phone is on latest software(ATCT). Any ideas what to do.
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Bro I just found a solution. Not the best but it works. My phone heated like hell even when idle and of course while charging too which resulted in slow charging speed, so what I did is wrap a cold cotton cloth around it while charging to keep it cool, and boom 50% charged in 30 mins. Earlier it took 1 hour for 50% charge.
For the cold cloth, I wet a handkerchief and squeezed the water out, thus ensuring there is no water to deal any damage (although the phone is ip68 rated).
Of course this is not a permanent solution but it works.
Hope it helps :good:
I have the same problem and as pointed out by vanditsadaphale it is related with the temperature of the phone. Mine charges 30% in 30 minutes instead of 50% as advertised and always is > 35.0 degrees Celsius. Also a **** of battery life with screen on time at 5hrs after almost a day of use with 60 hz...
I have the same problem with my S20 snapdragon version ....
Before update:
Super charge and fast charge were fine with same cable and same charger (aftermarket one support 22watt charging)
After update:
With everything in BATTERY SETTING got ticked. It only charges at slowest speed.
Plugged into supercharging port - no response, no charging
Plugged into QC3.0 port - slow charging
sjandroiddeveloper said:
My S20+ exynos is charging slowly. Its taking around 1 hr 40 min - 2 hr to charge from 5 to 100. Super fast charging is turned on and when i plug in it states 1 hr 10 min to charge. This seems to be happening from last 4-5 charge cycles. Phone is on latest software(ATCT). Any ideas what to do.
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i have the same problem with S20 ultra
im using 25w charging
but not work fast
i just got notificating
cable chargine 1 h
i hope samsung fix this problem

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