Hdmi screen mirroring via usb cable not working - Samsung Galaxy A50 Questions & Answers

Helped a friend buy this. We were watching movies via wireless screen sharing (miracast) and it was OK but kept stuttering and dropping WiFi.
So I suggested getting an hdmi usb-c cable with power charging (4k). I was very surprised when it didn't work! Tried everything including downloading dex to the phone.
Connected the same cable to my s8 plus and it worked beautifully (dex) !
So why not the Samsung a50? Never experienced this on any phone before and have been connecting to TV this way for 10 years.
Need a different /special cable? Or no go on this device and can only do via wireless?
Thx

I haven't ever used HDMI mirroring on a phone but as far as my knowledge of Type-C goes, you need USB 3.1 to support all the alternate modes including HDMI and DisplayPort. The A50 comes with USB 2.0, so there is no possibility of getting Display-Out from the USB port.

t3chg33k said:
I haven't ever used HDMI mirroring on a phone but as far as my knowledge of Type-C goes, you need USB 3.1 to support all the alternate modes including HDMI and DisplayPort. The A50 comes with USB 2.0, so there is no possibility of getting Display-Out from the USB port.
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thanks for that explanation, I'm guessing this the same reason we can't use type c 3.5mm jacks?
by that respect, pretty much any type c 3.1 can output through hdmi?
Thanks,
Scott

Type-C as a standard is a mess. I don't think you are required to support alternate modes in USB 3.1, so I suppose there are USB 3.1 Type-C devices that still don't output video.
Regarding audio, there is Audio Accessory Mode for Type-C and the concept of active and passive headphones/dongles, so not all dongles will work.

samsung A50 simply doesnt support dex. only s8 s9 s10 and Note 8 9 10.
getting usb c to hdmi wouldnt solve your problem.
there is how ever one possible solution, which is the universal android usb to hdmi cable. it uses ezcast app (same app for wireless). mirroring your phone but wont display netflix etc on your tv.

Samsung A20
So, I know that the A-series doesn't support DeX, but I was hopeful that it might still have the capability to project to a lapdock (like the HP Elite X3 or Nexdock 2) via USB-C and display even crudely (so, not the fully optimized DeX-ified desktop mode, but maybe just a mirror?), ideally allowing for keyboard/touchpad input as well. Basically I'm trying to come up with a solution for my mom whose company is phasing out the laptop she's accustomed to working on in favor of these lousy Samsung A20s, which she's gonna have a lot of trouble seeing and interfacing with on such a tiny screen and without a full keyboard (she's in her 60s). The lapdock thing is the only idea I've been able to come up with (though, it sucks that the A20s don't support DeX), but I'm open to any other suggestions if you think the lapdock route is a dead end. Thanks!
sutton0028 said:
samsung A50 simply doesnt support dex. only s8 s9 s10 and Note 8 9 10.
getting usb c to hdmi wouldnt solve your problem.
there is how ever one possible solution, which is the universal android usb to hdmi cable. it uses ezcast app (same app for wireless). mirroring your phone but wont display netflix etc on your tv.
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The A50 doesn't support MHL(display out protocol) at all for some reason, which is quite disappointing. At least wireless display casting works well.

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[Q] HDMI cable

Anyone know where one can be brought? also why have I read stuff about the s2 having mini usb? it doesn't it has the same propriety connector as the galaxy s.
It's MHL. It's the supposed new 'standard' for connectivity. I think most devices are using that connection nowadays. Last I heard was Clove saying the MHL adapters won't be out until June.
DVC1985 said:
It's MHL. It's the supposed new 'standard' for connectivity. I think most devices are using that connection nowadays. Last I heard was Clove saying the MHL adapters won't be out until June.
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really? so the original galaxy s had mhl as well? Any suggestions on what to do with my fancy new phone? so far apart from being super quick it just seems like a sleaker bigger galaxy s, I cant think of anything my galaxy s couldn't do :S
Oh I know I'm gonna see if the wii mote works on this thing
badasschris said:
really? so the original galaxy s had mhl as well? Any suggestions on what to do with my fancy new phone? so far apart from being super quick it just seems like a sleaker bigger galaxy s, I cant think of anything my galaxy s couldn't do :S
Oh I know I'm gonna see if the wii mote works on this thing
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I can't find any evidence that it did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-definition_Link
It's the new standard, but that doesn't mean older devices support it. The SGS2 is one of the first AFAIK
But nothing on the market will currently work? HDMI out from a mobile is just supercool!
I have both an sgs1 and sgs 2, my charger fits the micro usb (the only i/o connector) on the phones, perfectly
The connectors should be the same on the S1 and S2, but only the S2 is MHL compatible.
I think MHL can use any 5 pin connector to send an HDMI signal while receiving power for charging.
I'm not sure if you'll be able to use the MHL HDMI out and USB at the same time, but I hope this is possible.
I'm also guessing that the adaptor will need to be a clever one with circuitry rather than a passive adaptor. Does anyone know if this will definitely be the case, and if so I'd imagine it'll have cost implications! Hope I'm wrong and a passive adaptor is possible
Coming from a LG Optimus 2x, that came with a Micro USB ---> HDMI cable. These are available from Ebay for a GBP 10 - would these work?
Yea guessing its just MHL compatible as the old port was usb compatible. Thats annoying, with all the talk of this new standard usb-hdmi port I was assuming it would use a standard connector and not a proprietary one.
It stupid really if all manufacturers used the same connector we wouldn't have to have multiple chargers/docks/cables
You can't use the USB port for MHL and USB functions at the same time, this is confirmed (if you search for MHL at youTube there is a great video with a person from the MHL consortium explaining it).
To badasschris: this isn't a proprietary port. Samsung, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Toshiba, and quite a few other partners are involved with it, it seems likely to become the standard for mobile devices (iPhone aside, I am sure Apply will continue to push their proprietary ports).
NZtechfreak said:
You can't use the USB port for MHL and USB functions at the same time, this is confirmed (if you search for MHL at youTube there is a great video with a person from the MHL consortium explaining it).
To badasschris: this isn't a proprietary port. Samsung, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Toshiba, and quite a few other partners are involved with it, it seems likely to become the standard for mobile devices (iPhone aside, I am sure Apply will continue to push their proprietary ports).
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Are you absolutely sure it isnt proprietary? Why I am getting confused is because it has the same port as the galaxy s1 and I heard nothing about that being a standard port and you always have to buy a samsung charger not a [standard port] charger e.g. mini usb charger for any devices which have mini usb. So you are saying at some point the other manufactorers will have the same port and I will be able to use my galaxy s charger to charge them?
Galaxy S is a standard micro USB port, and lacks the MHL connection, its not proprietary at all, I use several non-Samsung cables to charge the phone in my car and from PCs. Most manufacturers, Apple excluded, use micro USB charging now.
The port in the Galaxy SII is not the same as the Galaxy S, as it has MHL connectivity in addition, but its function as a micro USB port for mass memory and charging is perfectly standard, and doesn't require special cables or connectors of any kind.
NZtechfreak said:
Galaxy S is a standard micro USB port, and lacks the MHL connection, its not proprietary at all, I use several non-Samsung cables to charge the phone in my car and from PCs. Most manufacturers, Apple excluded, use micro USB charging now.
The port in the Galaxy SII is not the same as the Galaxy S, as it has MHL connectivity in addition, but its function as a micro USB port for mass memory and charging is perfectly standard, and doesn't require special cables or connectors of any kind.
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lol I had to thank you there I've been a right plonker. I remember seeing someone say the origional galaxy s was micro usb and then when I saw it I thought that't not micro usb. It just clicked I have been getting micro and mini usb confused. When anyone said micro I immediately assumed mini
Glad I got that sorted.
Is it possible to buy an MHL to HDMI cable? Where?
You can't use the USB port for MHL and USB functions at the same time, this is confirmed (if you search for MHL at youTube there is a great video with a person from the MHL consortium explaining it).
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That sucks. I was hoping to look into making a tablet dock that used a USB capacitive touch screen & HDMI output for the screen.
A laptop dock using Bluetooth for the keyboard and HDMI for the screen would still be possible, or a tablet that used Bluetooth for the touch-screen.
This phone is powerful - it's annoying not to be able to use the hardware for more than just a phone.
I reckon Motorola is thinking along the right lines with the Atrix, and I hoped other manufacturers would be too, but this combined port indicates Samsung are probably not.
DavidMc0 said:
That sucks. I was hoping to look into making a tablet dock that used a USB capacitive touch screen & HDMI output for the screen.
A laptop dock using Bluetooth for the keyboard and HDMI for the screen would still be possible, or a tablet that used Bluetooth for the touch-screen.
This phone is powerful - it's annoying not to be able to use the hardware for more than just a phone.
I reckon Motorola is thinking along the right lines with the Atrix, and I hoped other manufacturers would be too, but this combined port indicates Samsung are probably not.
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Plus you have the added fact that samsung like to mess with bluetooth meaning many devices wont work with it. I really hope the bluetooth situation gets fixed somehow as this device paired with a screen and a bluetooth keyboard/mouse and game pad gives you a portable computer / games console. without it its just an amazing phone
This should work perfectly with bluetooth mouse and keyboard, my SGSI does. It should also work with a Zeemote, unfortunately it doesn't have enough buttons to be that good for using in emulators.
I can confirm that the igo stowaway bluetooth keyboard works fine w/the SGS2 in case anyone's curious
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Is it possible to buy an MHL to HDMI cable? Where?
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Good question. That's what we are all looking for.
So far i have only seen two places selling them Clove and Expansys are doing it 2 £24.99 they ar egetting them in on the 28th May

USB C compatibility - HDMI?

Hey everyone,
I recently got a Nokia 6.1 aka 6 (2018) and was curious how good USB-C support is on current gen. Android phones.
So i tried using various USB-C adapters at home and at work to connect to different kinds of periphery in order to figure it out.
What worked for me:
Using my Dell USB-C adapter (DA-200) with Ethernet, HDMI, USB, VGA:
USB: works, can use mouse / usb drive / keyboard / audio interface, the usual USB OTG stuff
HDMI + VGA: not working, tried multiple displays, types of cables
Ethernet: Seems to kind of "work", powers up and LEDs on the interface signal an enabled uplink, however cannot configure the interface without root apparently
Using other various adapters ranging from USB-C to USB / Ethernet / HDMI / card reader to just USB-C to HDMI, i never was able to get HDMI working.
Now, it seems that there is a feature called "DP Alt mode" which i couldn't verify for any of the adapters i tested. It seems that the support for this mode is rather spotty among USB-C adapters.
Looking at the Qualcomm product brief for the 630 SoC, it seems to support "External Displays" and "DisplayPort". In contrast, the only thing the 835 SoC (which is confirmed to work with USB-C to HDMI adapters) lists additionally is "HDMI" support. (however it doesn't even list external display support, which is odd)
So i was wondering, is this what my adapters are missing to get HDMI to work?
And how can i figure out which phones even support video out using USB-C? DP Alt mode is never listed in the specs of any phone, and i don't know if it's in the SoC specs
IMO it is mostly a gimmick to be able to use HDMI with a phone nowadays, as other wireless screen sharing options work just fine for most use-cases, but i'm curious to see how cross-compatible this USB-C hardware is.
EDIT: just found out that apparently, in order to make a phone DP alt mode compatible, it has to support full USB 3.1 over USB-C, which the Nokia 6.1 apparently doesn't, according to spec sheets, it only supports USB 2.0 over USB-C. So i suppose it's not possible by the hardware design of the phone.
Did someone try a MHL adapter. They sometimes work on low spec phones. I sadly misplaced mine
Nokia 6.1 doesn't support wired video output (no MHL, no Alt-DP, no anything else).
The only option is the wireless standard Miracast (or the proprietary Chromecast).
matteventu said:
Nokia 6.1 doesn't support wired video output (no MHL, no Alt-DP, no anything else).
The only option is the wireless standard Miracast (or the proprietary Chromecast).
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I'm incredibly late to this, and this is one of my first posts, how does one get Miracast working on the Nokia 6.1? For reference I haven't gotten the phone yet (my parents are helping me to afford it and are giving it to me for Christmas).
I have tried usb c to gig ethernet and works automatic, it is based on the AX88179 chip it works in pixelexperience (possibly in the rest of roms)
(I know the topic is old but i leave it as a note)
How about this vod??
https://youtu.be/mciEZKSvva8

Connect galaxy a70 to external monitor with type c to hdmi adapter

I would like to know if galaxy a70 supports connecting hdmi monitor via usb type c to hdmi adapter or with any usb type c dock to external monitor. I want to mirror via type c cable and i am aware that there is no dex support for a70.
Can any one tried this? I don't have usb type c to hdmi adapter or type c dock to try this and wanted to buy if this is supported.
Thank you.
ssurampu said:
I would like to know if galaxy a70 supports connecting hdmi monitor via usb type c to hdmi adapter or with any usb type c dock to external monitor. I want to mirror via type c cable and i am aware that there is no dex support for a70.
Can any one tried this? I don't have usb type c to hdmi adapter or type c dock to try this and wanted to buy if this is supported.
Thank you.
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yes, i tried just few minutes ago connecting my device to computer but it's not supporting it's very weird Samsung not makeing stable update now days and i have ghost touch problem
Ok. This is bad. I was expected at least screen mirroring via cable on a70 but didn't happen.
I got dell usb type-c adapter and tried connecting hdmi cable to external monitor.
Nothing shown and nothing was detected except saying some usb device has connected.
For this price, should expect these minimal futures in the phone.
I don't recommend this phone even for camera and samsung one ui. Still sony fan so installed xperia home launcher even though it is not working properly.
Bluetooth is breaking a bit with head phones.
audio for receiving calls is poor.
Overall for this price, it is not a good product.
Hardware of Software
Is this a hardware feature or can be fixed with software update???
Tried it too. Doesn't work
I bought a Type C to HDMI converter. It worked on a samsung a30, note, but not on the A70. I should have gotten the cheaper A50. Might have worked there!
Can anyone update us? Is this a software or hardware issue? Has anyone successfully got it to work?
I think get a chromecast device and use screen mirroring feature in google home app and you will get a more convenient wireless display !!!
I think everybody knows about chrome of course but u end up using urr mobile hotspot data which is never unlimited like the unlimited data u can get reasonable an the point is cellphone distributers should include Mhl because its free to watch anything on your phone an it doesnt use up ure wifi I think carriers are catching on and are fishneting with cellphone distributers n there trying to ban it or make it obselete because they will lose money think about it watching all the movies u want from your phone and mivie channels unlimited with Mhl hdmi.an it sucks itvreally does.cause u either have to spend a fortune getting a device with mhl or the mid range nice cell phones with bigger screens normally dont have mhl
Maybe you have to use the official Samsung one - https://www.mobilefun.co.uk/official-samsung-galaxy-a70-usb-c-to-hdmi-adapter-74551
A70 connectivity problem
That's because its usb C 2.0 only the mobiles with 3.0+ can connect to HDMI
Can you charge through a USB Hub though?
Queried this with Samsung, and this was their response. Sadly it's a no go!
For this price, they should have given usb 3.0 or higher.
Store keeper told that it is possible but later i understand that meant screen mirror.
Can a custom rom add support for this?

Has anyone tried a USB-C hub with the G8? What is supported?

Wondering if we have support for:
RJ-45 Ethernet jack
microsd/SD card readers
HDMI-Out
Extra USB-A ports
An example of the device is here: https://www.amazon.ca/VAVA-Adapter-...b&qid=1563056649&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1
They are advertised for macbook but USB-C is obviously universal so it works with computers and stuff, wondering what kind of support we have on G8 if anyone has one to test.
I thought of this use case, use the HDMI to send to a monitor, and 2 of the usb slots for keyboard and mouse.... turn the G8 into a little laptop. I might order one to try it, in theory it could work but I have my doubts.
I didn't try the video out, but mouse and keyboard work fine through mine.
Cookst said:
I didn't try the video out, but mouse and keyboard work fine through mine.
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cool thanks, the video isn't even as important because wifi screen sharing is a thing too
Everything is working on my LG G8s ThinQ like before on my LG V40 ThinQ, LG G7 ThinQ.
The only problem is power drop when you connect multiple devices.
I tried an HDMI screen (it shares your Android screen and hopefully, no lags like with WiFi Screen Sharing), Ethernet connection, Microsoft multimedia keyboard (integrated touchpad on the keyboard), Western Digital My Passport and SanDisk DualDrive.
PS: The only thing I still didn't tried is Netflix via HDMI to USB-C. On my Galaxy S8 I couldn't have the images but well the sound but on my V40 it worked so, I'm wondering if LG isn't implementing Something to make it work. I must ask my manager
I found an adapter...
I was searching for an HDMI to USB-C adapter and tried a UGreen 6-in-1 adapter. It works perfectly. You can hook up your phone charger to the adapter to charge your phone while outputting to the TV/Monitor. It also has 2 USB 3.0 ports and SD/MicroSD slots. I got it to use my AKG Lyra microphone on my phone while making video calls for better audio. I've hooked my TV AND microphone to my phone so I can mount my phone on a stand and use the back (much better) camera for my calls. I use the TV to monitor the video. It works great! Search Amazon for " UGREEN USB C Hub 6 in 1 Type C to HDMI 4K " to find (I paid $25US). (New to xda and haven't posted enough to post links)
Hope this helps!
DW
Useful informations! I was thinking about one of those things, just to try out some kind of desktop mode when/IF it will be available on LG G8s, and a simple usb-c to hdmi seems to me too limiting as melvinmajor pointed out before (power drop).

USB-C to HDMI Cable?

Any recommendations on a good USB-C to HDMI Cable? With Desktop Mode finally being an option in Q, I'm hoping to test it out when Q is officially released and we see some apps support it. Preferably with availability in the States.
Amazon basic have better option for this USB-C to HDMI, I'm using that work perfectly
This one works great! NAGFAK USB C to HDMI Multiport Adapter USB 3.1 to HDMI 4K Video Converter/USB 3.0 hub Port PD Quick Charging Port with Large Projection for 2015/16/17/18 MacBook/MacBook Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R3XNBNR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vaXuDbVY2XYJ8
peteus said:
This one works great! NAGFAK USB C to HDMI Multiport Adapter USB 3.1 to HDMI 4K Video Converter/USB 3.0 hub Port PD Quick Charging Port with Large Projection for 2015/16/17/18 MacBook/MacBook Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R3XNBNR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vaXuDbVY2XYJ8
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Hi,
Does it work as HDMI + USB or only HDMI?
Is anyone able to screen mirror Netflix,YouTube TV, Hulu or Amazon prime with the cable? I have a cable and it mirrors everything except those apps when I'm playing video.
nfamisnme said:
Is anyone able to screen mirror Netflix,YouTube TV, Hulu or Amazon prime with the cable? I have a cable and it mirrors everything except those apps when I'm playing video.
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same here......
I don't want to maybe start a new thread so I thought here - does anyone charge their oneplus 7 pro type c from their laptop/pc to type c on their phone? my ultrabook doesn't quite have enough ports for usbs. so I wanna take away my phone on a usb and use a type c port instead to charge it.
I see some type c cables are 3.1 or something. for charging do I need the expensive cables?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=USB-C+...qid=1568570023&rnid=419151031&ref=sr_nr_p_6_1
thanks haha!
I have an Aukey USB hub which seems to work great. HDMI and USB. It can charge my phone but that seems to be too slow to be useful.
nfamisnme said:
Is anyone able to screen mirror Netflix,YouTube TV, Hulu or Amazon prime with the cable? I have a cable and it mirrors everything except those apps when I'm playing video.
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same here......
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You guys won't be able to mirror those apps unless you've rooted your phone and found a way to patch the application to make it think there is no secondary display connected. The reason you're getting nothing from these apps is they detect the presence of a secondary display, and since the phone cannot comply with HDCP over the adapter cable (not supported), it will not display correctly (black screen where the picture should be or no display at all). I've had a phone in the past with a miniHDMI port and I've used a proper mini-to-full HDMI cable without issue to watch Netflix, but that was a straight HDMI connection with HDCP. Netflix and them take anti-piracy seriously, yo!
Cynagen said:
You guys won't be able to mirror those apps unless you've rooted your phone and found a way to patch the application to make it think there is no secondary display connected. The reason you're getting nothing from these apps is they detect the presence of a secondary display, and since the phone cannot comply with HDCP over the adapter cable (not supported), it will not display correctly (black screen where the picture should be or no display at all). I've had a phone in the past with a miniHDMI port and I've used a proper mini-to-full HDMI cable without issue to watch Netflix, but that was a straight HDMI connection with HDCP. Netflix and them take anti-piracy seriously, yo!
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Dang, that explains it.
This works. Just received one and tested with Netflix
ViewHD 2 Port 1x2 Powered HDMI Mini Splitter for 1080P & 3D | Model: VHD-1X2MN3D https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004F9LVXC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_1L9KDb8XR16V9
Recommend an adapter with a power plug in so your phone doesn't run out of juice while watching TV.
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