Hey!
I know it's not the first time that our device doesn't receive the monthly security update, but since the device is almost two years old and I always felt like the XZ1 was "forgotten" by Sony, do you think it was intentional and we won't receive any more security updates?
_Nexus8_ said:
Hey!
I know it's not the first time that our device doesn't receive the monthly security update, but since the device is almost two years old and I always felt like the XZ1 was "forgotten" by Sony, do you think it was intentional and we won't receive any more security updates?
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It does not matter what we think.
What matters is that the device is old, Sony has had bad sales recently and they have cut personnel.
But also, XZ1, XZ1 Compact and XZ Premium have had updates at the same time usually. So all of them are out of business.
For me personally it is not loss - banking apps work, phone works, everything works. This is anyway a device that I carry with for occasions that I need it. It is not a device for spending some fun time.
May be we are receive update
russel5 said:
May be we are receive update
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Oh that's interesting, I'll check the few next days to see if something is coming
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Oh that's interesting, I'll check the few next days to see if something is coming
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I downloaded and installed the 107 version. It is the July security patch not the patch from August.
It's available now, just installed it.
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New here and loving my 8 Pro
I was wondering what Android security patch do you guys/girls currently have? Mine (EU version) is 5th of April, anyone got a newer one?
The April security patch is still being deployed. My phone got it less than 2 weeks ago. I think that Google has a quarterly cycle so I don't think there is anything more recent than the April level (but I might be wrong)... in any case I don't expect Huawei to roll out another SW update yet while the current rollout isn't finished.
anonimo said:
The April security patch is still being deployed. My phone got it less than 2 weeks ago. I think that Google has a quarterly cycle so I don't think there is anything more recent than the April level (but I might be wrong)... in any case I don't expect Huawei to roll out another SW update yet while the current rollout isn't finished.
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Actually Google releases patches update every month. OEMs are just lazy to give the monthly updates to users.
adriansticoid said:
Actually Google releases patches update every month. OEMs are just lazy to give the monthly updates to users.
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might also need some time to implement patches with their own ui? just may be?
thilak devraj said:
might also need some time to implement patches with their own ui? just may be?
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Uhmm no. Security patches have nothing to do with the UI. They are just "patches". Once Google uploads a new one, they can just patch the framework and necessary stuff, then roll it out with a small OTA.
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Uhmm no. Security patches have nothing to do with the UI. They are just "patches". Once Google uploads a new one, they can just patch the framework and necessary stuff, then roll it out with a small OTA.
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i quite dont get it yet,
if it was that easy, why would brands take such a risk of getting a bad reputation for not providing security patches?
thilak devraj said:
i quite dont get it yet,
if it was that easy, why would brands take such a risk of getting a bad reputation for not providing security patches?
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I don't know. That's the way they think. Look at the Nexus line. They always receive monthly updates because it's coming directly from Google.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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I don't know. That's the way they think. Look at the Nexus line. They always receive monthly updates because it's coming directly from Google.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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because google doesnt have to modify a thing, cause its stock android
thilak devraj said:
because google doesnt have to modify a thing, cause its stock android
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Like I said, security patches are just patches. It has nothing to do with the flavor of Android.
adriansticoid said:
Like I said, security patches are just patches. It has nothing to do with the flavor of Android.
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then, you are right, brands are just lazy if they do not provide at least security patches
adriansticoid said:
Actually Google releases patches update every month. OEMs are just lazy to give the monthly updates to users.
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not really true. recall reading an article that briefly explained the process, even security patch takes time for manufacturers to update -- need to go thru chipset manufacturer, and then to phone manufacturer and carriers... what i understand, not that much difference from the regular updates.
which is why Google is trying to make things easier in Nougat.
just sharing this link as well:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ke-full-control-of-androids-security-updates/
not the article i read, but still, hope it provides some extra info...
mydragoon said:
not really true. recall reading an article that briefly explained the process, even security patch takes time for manufacturers to update -- need to go thru chipset manufacturer, and then to phone manufacturer and carriers... what i understand, not that much difference from the regular updates.
which is why Google is trying to make things easier in Nougat.
just sharing this link as well:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ke-full-control-of-androids-security-updates/
not the article i read, but still, hope it provides some extra info...
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I stand corrected. Thanks. I hope Project Treble will be a success.
So, I'm guessing all 8 Pros are on april patch, at leastwe got it faster then the regular 8.
MrHuman said:
So, I'm guessing all 8 Pros are on april patch, at leastwe got it faster then the regular 8.
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That's how OEMs behave. Prioritizing updates on newly released devices.
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That's how OEMs behave. Prioritizing updates on newly released devices.
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actually we are behind the regular h8.
but from what i see duk-al20 (alias the honor v9, not the 9) is already on june, if not even july ^^ (B180 i think)
only european variant left out ..
OldDroid said:
actually we are behind the regular h8.
but from what i see duk-al20 (alias the hobor v9) is already on june, if not even july ^^ (B180 i think)
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Oh. That was a fast move by Huawei. I hope they do this with most of their devices.
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not really true. recall reading an article that briefly explained the process, even security patch takes time for manufacturers to update -- need to go thru chipset manufacturer, and then to phone manufacturer and carriers... what i understand, not that much difference from the regular updates.
which is why Google is trying to make things easier in Nougat.
just sharing this link as well:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ke-full-control-of-androids-security-updates/
not the article i read, but still, hope it provides some extra info...
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but , things are gonna change, biggest problem in android is reaching of the updates to devices, project treble:fingers-crossed:
Let's just hope for the best.
Any region on newer security patch then 5th April? Even my 1 1/2 year old 120 euro Asus tablet has got this update, would think Honor would pay more attention to it's flagship phone.
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Any region on newer security patch then 5th April? Even my 1 1/2 year old 120 euro Asus tablet has got this update, would think Honor would pay more attention to it's flagship phone.
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Check THIS AL20 has June updates.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
Never thought i would see the day.
Its patched it to the May security release which seems a bit behind the times still.
I was as shocked as you were, creation date 6th June, personally wonder why they bothered considering update content.
Ray
Standby time seems to be very much improved, a 2% drop over night and that was it.
Can I apply the update with my device being rooted with magisk or do I need to uninstall magisk first? Saw somewhere people using flashfire but I am not sure if I need to apply it from there as I have twrp installed. Grabbed the update so will upload.
Edit - drive.google. com/file/d/0B0o6IYW5dPwHcExfSXVvMWVCWU0/view?usp=sharing
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Dunno mate sorry, mine is completely stock.
Woke up this morning to another update being available, takes the UK Moto G5 Plus to the August patch.
Come on Moto where is Oreo
MrBelter said:
Come on Moto where is Oreo
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Probably next year, first quarter maybe?
psychopac said:
Probably next year, first quarter maybe?
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Don't tell anyone but it was a joke, the UK was seemingly ignored for months then 2 updates in 2 weeks.
MrBelter said:
Don't tell anyone but it was a joke, the UK was seemingly ignored for months then 2 updates in 2 weeks.
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Some guy on fb said that by the end of December or at the first week of January, we'll start getting Oreo. I can't believe that but I may be wrong
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Some guy on fb said that by the end of December or at the first week of January, we'll start getting Oreo. I can't believe that but I may be wrong
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Someone's grandma's uncle's cousin said on twitter that it'd be out tomorrow. But who knows...
Lol seriously people...
Has the support been cut on this phone as well? I'm using it as a backup to my Z5 premium which had support cut. I'm seeing the last security patch was February 2018.
Mike3009 said:
Has the support been cut on this phone as well? I'm using it as a backup to my Z5 premium which had support cut. I'm seeing the last security patch was February 2018.
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No, it has support until June 2019. It has had security patches "una tantum" since it was released.
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No, it has support until June 2019. It has had security patches "una tantum" since it was released.
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Thanks that's what I thought but I saw there were about two patches that seemed to have skipped the xa1 plus so I was worried. Is that normal?
Mike3009 said:
Thanks that's what I thought but I saw there were about two patches that seemed to have skipped the xa1 plus so I was worried. Is that normal?
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As I've said before, there are updates once in a while, so you haven't reason to worry about.
If you want constant updates, you've to buy higher level Xperias.
When it will get Android P (next year) they will be forced to update monthly, because of new Google directives.
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As I've said before, there are updates once in a while, so you haven't reason to worry about.
If you want constant updates, you've to buy higher level Xperias.
When it will get Android P (next year) they will be forced to update monthly, because of new Google directives.
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I saw the May update just came out. I already learned my lesson to not buy a high end phone from Sony. I own a Z5 premium and they cut the support right as two major vulnerabilities came out. Seems whether you buy a premium flagship phone or a midrange, they get treated equally and have support cut in just two years. Maybe I will reconsider after Android P. Thanks for the info on that. Although I really can't stand this new design trend of the xz2 series and misplaced fingerprint sensor...
Just updated my phone at work for a security patch and went from September to November that's cool I guess, I was kinda hoping for December but I guess we will skip December get January's in February
I personally don't understand all the hoopla over a security patch.. No offense, but I never had any phone of mine compromised, even if I did not have the latest patch.. I always look forward to the new Android OS or other updates that actually make improvements to the phone.. My phone go the Nov updated 2 weeks ago.. I never did understand why they wait to actually get these things out.. If it is so critical, they need to push it out when it actually comes out.
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I personally don't understand all the hoopla over a security patch.. No offense, but I never had any phone of mine compromised, even if I did not have the latest patch.. I always look forward to the new Android OS or other updates that actually make improvements to the phone.. My phone go the Nov updated 2 weeks ago.. I never did understand why they wait to actually get these things out.. If it is so critical, they need to push it out when it actually comes out.
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It's just peace of mind and they supposedly opened a new facility specific to updates, and also they are behind other companies, it's just them dropping the ball
Joe199799 said:
It's just peace of mind and they supposedly opened a new facility specific to updates, and also they are behind other companies, it's just them dropping the ball
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I remember when I bought my Moto Z2 Force. Then first time I booted it up, I got 4 updates one right after the other April-August.. If these companies want to retain customers, then yes, they need to step up the game a bit...
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I remember when I bought my Moto Z2 Force. Then first time I booted it up, I got 4 updates one right after the other April-August.. If these companies want to retain customers, then yes, they need to step up the game a bit...
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I'm back on my Z2 and have already had an update. LG really does need to step it up.
20degrees said:
I'm back on my Z2 and have already had an update. LG really does need to step it up.
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I agree 100 percent. I personally do not plan on updating my phone, again, unless it is necessary, or pie drops.
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6.in that time op6 gets every month security patches and updates without any delay..I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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You should understand that the Coronavirus incident affected all of the development, from any China company.
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I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
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Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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"We encountered some delays due to the NCP outbreak. The January security update for 7T will be released in the following two weeks if all goes well."
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I heard that their staff announced new updates will come on two month regular basis
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I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead
bynarie said:
yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead
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Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in
PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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Thanks for the information
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Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in
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Yeah..Right
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They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.
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Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?
Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.
Why would you put your trust in any oem? OnePlus already has your money. Also you're on XDA asking this... a home of developers and other enthusiasts who create and contribute to custom updated roms. [emoji2361]
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Yeah..Right
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U don't think so?
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Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?
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They're all under BBK electronics yes. (Oppo, Vivo, Realme and Oneplus) but they're seperated into different teams/offices especially OnePlus with it's OxygenOS. So people from Realme can work I think but people from OnePlus can't. It depends on where they are and their worling environment. Just wait. It'll soon be there and development on custom scene shall be A-okay okce twrp gets sorted out.
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Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.
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Delaying this update for Corona virus is understandable, and first thing important is the employees health.
But let's not just pretend this is one time thing. OnePlus always does this, always releases an update at the end of the month with previous months patch set and never really stay on track.
In my opinion, this is where OnePlus has fallen behind, and I think it's because they release too many phones to keep track of.
Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?
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Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?
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You should try visiting the OnePlus forum. I think every second or third post is someone whining about the security update being late.
Aside from being disgusted by the colossal self-centeredness of so many people *****ing about a damned phone update while people in the phone's country of origin are literally dying, I can't help but wonder WTF these people are doing with their phones to make them that paranoid.
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Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.
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Eddiemc said:
Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.