Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy
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If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
ccigas said:
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
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Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.
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Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.
Is everyone having problems on Verizon?
Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.
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Battery consumption is going trough the roof lately..
Can someone tell me if it is normal to go from 56% to 28% in an hour of surfing and listening to music? (see screenshots) Screen brightness is 10% and just surfing, no downloading from the market etcetera..
I think it's unacceptable.. Took my phone from the charger 7:30 this morning, i charged it at work from 50 to 60% in the afternoon.
Current charge is 17%.
I already changed my ROM (clear cache, dalvik, storage) and radio but it doesn't seem to help at all...
I ordered a replacement battery for only 10 euro at ebay so i hope it will solve the issue..
Also, is there a known fix for the 90% charge on wakeup? It's rather annoying.
Yep thats 3G for you.. I've just been doing the same fir about 10 and already a 15% drop.. at least yiu can change the battery unlike the iPhone..
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Yep thats 3G for you.. I've just been doing the same fir about 10 and already a 15% drop.. at least yiu can change the battery unlike the iPhone..
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That's ridiculous.. Are you telling me it's normal to drop a percent per minute when actually using the device? (happened to me the other day)
Yeah I hear you. This phone has absolutely pathetic battery life. Even worse than an iPhone! Even using SetCPU to underclock it has little effect.
Just 10 minutes after unplugging it from the charger its at 94%. Another 10 minutes later its at 89.
Disturbing.
If you are sure you don't have an app running in the background, or a badly coded app draining your battery, I'd try THIS. I get around 48 hours of medium use on a full charge.
Calibrating the battery made a massive difference to me.
I forgot to mention that in fact i did calibrate my battery. Twice. Already 6% down in 10 minutes as we speak.
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I forgot to mention that in fact i did calibrate my battery. Twice. Already 6% down in 10 minutes as we speak.
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Im not trying to be rude but im assuming you have checked all your settings & applications for wakelock bugs and syncing related stuff?
You should roughly have ~1% per hour consumption when idling(screen off).
Try typing *#*#INFO#*#* and see battery history for any abnormalities, like way higher "running" % than "screen on" %. They should be pretty much equal.
Jgruar said:
Im not trying to be rude but im assuming you have checked all your settings & applications for wakelock bugs and syncing related stuff?
You should roughly have ~1% per hour consumption when idling(screen off).
Try typing *#*#INFO#*#* and see battery history for any abnormalities, like way higher "running" % than "screen on" %. They should be pretty much equal.
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Yes i checked all those things numerous times also no abnormalities in applications sucking up all the juice.
I think we can conclude the battery(consumption) just sucks monkey balls.
When your battery is fully charged go to phone and type the following. *#*#4636#*#* then tap battery information. It should say battery health good, and then Battery voltage. What doe that read?
I'd also try calibrating the battery again, following the instructions to the letter. If all else fails I'd try a factory reset and run it at stock for a while to test and ensure you don't have a rogue app.
One thing I'd say about your cheap replacement battery. They are never going to be nearly as good as an original, as they are mostly poorly made and deliberately wrongly labelled to make them look like they are high powered, and at worst can be dangerous. Just be careful with that one.
I really can't understand why you would have such poor battery life. I'm happilly getting at least 48 hours with mine. I have wifi and data enabled all the time, use it a lot for twitter, make a few calls, and send texts.
Anyway, good luck and let me know how you get on.
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When your battery is fully charged go to phone and type the following. *#*#4636#*#* then tap battery information. It should say battery health good, and then Battery voltage. What doe that read?
I'd also try calibrating the battery again, following the instructions to the letter. If all else fails I'd try a factory reset and run it at stock for a while to test and ensure you don't have a rogue app.
One thing I'd say about your cheap replacement battery. They are never going to be nearly as good as an original, as they are mostly poorly made and deliberately wrongly labelled to make them look like they are high powered, and at worst can be dangerous. Just be careful with that one.
I really can't understand why you would have such poor battery life. I'm happilly getting at least 48 hours with mine. I have wifi and data enabled all the time, use it a lot for twitter, make a few calls, and send texts.
Anyway, good luck and let me know how you get on.
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Cheers for your reply,
I checked using *#*#4636#*#* and nothing out of the ordinary to be honest.
When fully charged it's around 4100mV so that should be ok as well.
About the cheap battery, it's from E-cell in the UK and my previous purchases were of good quality. So will see if it's crap or not
Having the same issue as you. Bought my phone 5 days back and I calibrated the battery too. No sneaky app trying to drain the battery.
Will wait for couple of days and then as suggested will reset the phone to factory settings and then check.
Fully charged my LTE Nexus while it was on and then fully charged while it was off. Restarted the phone, haven't done anything with it in 30 mins and it's already down 4% to 96%. What's the deal?!?!?
Someone said in another thread... if you look at your Android System usage in the battery meter, its way too high... sounds like a bug - apparently a custom kernel has fixed this, but I havent rooted yet to test it.
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Fully charged my LTE Nexus while it was on and then fully charged while it was off. Restarted the phone, haven't done anything with it in 30 mins and it's already down 4% to 96%. What's the deal?!?!?
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Check here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
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Although I prefer the GN, laptopmag.com found that the Rezound and RAZR have clear advantages when it comes to web surfing time on 4G. GSM GN wasn't too impressive either.
"On the LAPTOP Battery Test (web surfing over 4G on 40-percent brightness), the Galaxy Nexus lasted just 3 hours and 40 minutes. That's a full 3 hours less than the smartphone average (6:38), and about 1:20 less than the unlocked Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile's network. By comparison, the HTC Rezound lasted 5:03 and the Droid RAZR lasted 4:48. Verizon Nexus owners may want to turn off 4G when they don't really need it or find other ways to conserve juice."
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-nexus-verizon-wireless.aspx
After just a couple days mine is doing just fine. I'm at 18 hours right now with 23% left. You have to condition the battery always.
Mine did the same thing as they always do. I only got 4 hours first full charge. After 2 more full cycles it's great!
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After just a couple days mine is doing just fine. I'm at 18 hours right now with 23% left. You have to condition the battery always.
Mine did the same thing as they always do. I only got 4 hours first full charge. After 2 more full cycles it's great!
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I forget this every time I get a new phone!! It's odd considering I load roms very, very frequently on whatever phone I have at the time and I know I have to wait a couple of battery cycles for battery life to get acceptable with any new rom, but I can't seem to remember it with a new phone!
I'm going to chill and wait and see.
Also, let it die completely and then charge it up 100000% (leave it charging overnight if you can). This is a good way to "train" the battery.
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I forget this every time I get a new phone!! It's odd considering I load roms very, very frequently on whatever phone I have at the time and I know I have to wait a couple of battery cycles for battery life to get acceptable with any new rom, but I can't seem to remember it with a new phone!
I'm going to chill and wait and see.
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Oh yeah, that will work for you. Mine is up to 20 hours now and 14% left.
20 hours of standby show me screen time 3 hours of screen time it's really bad
Im at 39% with around 2:55 screen on... I am on wifi right now though
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For me that's bad 3 hours damm
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Also, let it die completely and then charge it up 100000% (leave it charging overnight if you can). This is a good way to "train" the battery.
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Do NOT do this whatever you do. You should never completely drain a Li-Ion battery except when calibrating it after flashing a rom. Draining li-ion batteries hurts its battery life.
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For me that's bad 3 hours damm
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How much u get?
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Do NOT do this whatever you do. You should never completely drain a Li-Ion battery except when calibrating it after flashing a rom. Draining li-ion batteries hurts its battery life.
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Ok, so should he do it or not? You say not to unless you're calibrating.
Well, that's what the other poster is talking about. "training" = calibrating.
It doesn't harm a thing letting them drain all the way to the point of the phone shutting down. I've been doing this for all my phones, new roms, etc. I always end up with excellent battery life.
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It doesn't harm a thing letting them drain all the way to the point of the phone shutting down. I've been doing this for all my phones, new roms, etc. I always end up with excellent battery life.
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Sorry, but you are wrong.
Deep discharges do "harm" a LiIon battery physically (there is damage done to the membranes in the battery at a molecular level).
You will get about ~500 full (deep) discharges from your battery, but you will get more than double of that if you only discharge to 50% and more if you discharge even less. So the best thing is to charge your LiIon cell as often as possible, with the exception that it's also not healthy for the cell to be at full charge voltage (4.20 V) for a prolonged time either.
Yikes. You people with good battery life are lucky haha. I'm on my 6th charge and I still get around an hour and forty minutes of battery life. I'm at like 50% after an hour or so... and that's with LTE off too...
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This thread is redundant, please continue the conversation in one of the older battery life threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386201
I feel like I make a thread for each phone I go through. First Blackberries, then Droid X, now Galaxy Nexus.
I am getting pretty horrible battery drain that is definitely worse than others' Nexuses. I have gone to the extended battery now for a few days, yet in the morning, when I unplug from charger (says 98% but charged?), with brightness only a quarter of the way up from lowest, I can literally watch the percentage (battery number mod in corner) drop one-by-one each minute or a few...So if I am actually using the phone, you can imagine it drops pretty fast. Yesterday, with very very moderate use the phone was still dead within 5-6 hours. It was at the mid-80s within an hour or more. Again, with moderate use.
It is stomach-dropping watching the percentage number just go down and down. Yet my friend's Gnex using the extended battery his first day did not hit 85% yesterday until 5+ hours later. The battery stats page on mine shows nothing with high numbers except Screen and Android OS, so I assume no apps are draining it. I am rooted with unlocked BL, on bigxie's deodexed ROM with softkeys mod, battery percentage mod, and power menu mod. I have 100-something apps and many widgets but no battery draining/updating ones. Others with the same ROM report fine battery.
I believe after using the ext. battery for a couple days, it should be "conditioned" if needed at all, yet I see no improvement.
I'm getting very angry watching this drop.. For example, 40 minutes off the charger with almost NO use except for turning the screen on here and there, I am at 94% battery with Screen at 46%, Android OS at 34%, Phone Idle 11%, Cell Standby 9%, and Android System 2%.
And then 1 hr 20 min in, at 88% battery with 55% Screen, 27% Android OS, 6% Phone Idle, 6% Cell Standby.
This doesn't sound normal right? Keep in mind, those numbers are with almost no phone use..very minimal settings menus visited and one update from Market.
Jesus, literally almost every time or two I turn the screen on just to check these numbers, I see the damn battery percentage drop a number. Not even using the phone how/as much as I normally would be. This is infuriating. Luckily, it doesn't seem to drain much with the screen off.
Quit checking and wait til the bug is fixed and blood pressure stabilizes?
Crazy world, ay?
Update to 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 with an improved kernel = success.
Use the phone for 1-2 weeks to stablize battery life - mine is better now than it was when I began using it. But the kernel/rom makes a big difference.
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
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No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
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Maybe, but the fact that I have no other visible outstanding draining factors, and I get no 4G at home and therefore have it set to CDMA only...I should not be seeing 1% drops almost every time I turn the screen on for more than 30 seconds. Especially with an extended battery.
God forbid I want to use GPS or 4G.
More battery life threads please.
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More battery life threads please.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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Thank you, downloading now and will check it out.
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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This - My battery on the stock battery on GSM sucked first few days, and I was really concerned I made a poor purchase. But with the screen on probably 5 or 6 hours of my work day it lives through the day and just enough to get home after that. I can charge it at work too, which I usually do. On my day off it survived 18 hours and still had ~20% battery life left on 4.0.3 AOKP/Francisco.Franco Kernel
From my experience, the battery life isn't bad. I did install the "extended" battery as soon as I bought the phone but is isn't much bigger than the stock battery. I am on stock rooted 4.02. With LTE off I use about 2% per hour in standby. With LTE on it is almost double that (3-4%/hour). I have several widgets running and gps enabled. (wifi when available) I can easily get a 16-18 hour day and have 50% remaining when I go to bed unles I sit around gaming for a couple hours.
I may try a new ROM tonight but I expect it will probably make things worse.
Im running a bone stock setup and im getting 12 -14 hours a day... normally I read posts like the one skiddingus posted and wonder why I never can achieve those readings so i feel your confusion . I do have 4g on and gps off screen is about 1/4 of the way up brightness wise
Wanted to start this thread cuz I just received my 10000 mAh extended battery from zerolemon and wanted to post my results keep in mind this is the first day I've had the battery in and on the first full 12 hour charge that zerolemon recommends on the first charge and then it says to run the battery all the way dead but my sense I'm going to do the last 10% as shown in the picture but I'm going to charge it up full and going on today and see if I get any different results I was just curious on if anybody else has this battery yet and I wanted to see your results
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Just screen on time
My battery percentage still isn't accurate and I've had mine for about a week.
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My battery percentage still isn't accurate and I've had mine for about a week.
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Ya i was kinda curious about that after looking at other ppl so ima try and see what happens
My Results
terpin32 said:
Ya i was kinda curious about that after looking at other ppl so ima try and see what happens
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I've had mine for 3 days, and this seems to be fairly consistent with the results that you're getting. after 1 day and 8 hours, I'm at 19%. slightly above yours, but not worryingly so. Im going to drain it down to 2-1%, and then charge it back up to 100% again. I believe if you do that for 5 charging cycles, it should be totally recalibrated. That said, you do not want to bring your battery that low on a constant basis, as it can damage lithium ion batteries.
I also use Battery Monitor Widget Pro, which gives a fairly accurate representation of how the battery is doing. I certainly recommend checking it out, for those of you who are starting to use the ZeroLemon battery.
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I've had mine for 3 days, and this seems to be fairly consistent with the results that you're getting. after 1 day and 8 hours, I'm at 19%. slightly above yours, but not worryingly so. Im going to drain it down to 2-1%, and then charge it back up to 100% again. I believe if you do that for 5 charging cycles, it should be totally recalibrated. That said, you do not want to bring your battery that low on a constant basis, as it can damage lithium ion batteries.
I also use Battery Monitor Widget Pro, which gives a fairly accurate representation of how the battery is doing. I certainly recommend checking it out, for those of you who are starting to use the ZeroLemon battery.
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Mine keeps going down but when i pull the battery it goes up like 20-30%
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Mine keeps going down but when i pull the battery it goes up like 20-30%
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after 2 days and 3 hours, I downloaded a battery drainer. The battery percentage was at 1% for a total of 12 hours, from 9pm yesterday, to about 9am this morning. I was able to continue watching Netflix and listen to Spotify at 1% both for about 2 hours respectively in that time frame. When I got into work this morning, I used the battery drainer for about 25 seconds before the phone finally quit on me and shut off the phone. I guess that means that Android is still trying to calibrate to the battery.
With all of that said, once you get down below 5% the phone shuts off the ability to manually adjust the screen brightness, and the stock music player will no longer allow you to play music (which is kind of a bummer, as I do have about 15 gigs of music on the phone, and had to switch to using Spotify on my bus ride home....through the Lincoln Tunnel). I don't know what else the phone shuts off, yet. I'll be sure to do a more in depth look next time it gets down that low...which may take another 2-3 days...
Bump on status updates?
Here is mine, on its 2nd charge.
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Here is mine, on its 2nd charge.
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What was your screen on time tho
I've had my ZL battery since release (pre-order), I use it on and off. It still hasn't adjusted to having the larger battery. When it gets down to 3% I bump the corner and it resets the phone giving me 30+% more.
It still lasts way longer than stock, so that's good. I just wish the phone would show the correct battery level.
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I've had my ZL battery since release (pre-order), I use it on and off. It still hasn't adjusted to having the larger battery. When it gets down to 3% I bump the corner and it resets the phone giving me 30+% more.
It still lasts way longer than stock, so that's good. I just wish the phone would show the correct battery level.
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Well if they get this thing rooted you can get it calibrated better and sometimes flashing a custom rom helps to my note 2 had a 9300mah zl battery and that thing was always right so idk y this pine won't
Yup, custom ROM did wonders on my ZL note 2
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Doesn't help with this battery. Nothing dOes. Zerolemon "want the battery calibrated? Do a battery pull" great.
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What was your screen on time tho
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If I understand your question correctly, you're asking whether or not the phones been rebooted? If so, none. During that time of 4 days + hours, the phone went to standby mode when not in use. So I haven't turned off the auto standby mode off to leave the "screen on continously."
Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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lol wacking the phone like a old school tv set
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Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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Id turn off fast charging i saw that it doesn't do anything other than hurt the battery Cuz it doesn't know what its at cuz of the size
collinstheclown said:
Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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This is what mine does everyday after i pull the battery for the first time after a full night charge
Hey you guys,
I charged my phone to 100%, unplugged the cable and went to bed at 3:00am in the morning, when I woke up at 7:00a, the battery went down to 94%.
I looked at the battery usage, there was no Screen usage listed -even though I have the Night clock on-, and the Android System took the cake at 36% followed by Android OS at 14%, the rest of them were small numbers.
I have disabled bunch of packages through EZ Disabler, I have my screen on Auto and the slider is at 30%. I have all the Edge functions off. I do have Always On enabled but I have it disabled at night through the morning.
Now after a minimum browsing, looking through the settings, trying to figure out what's going on, the battery is at 82%, 14% drop in an hour or so.
I came from an iPhone 6 Plus, I've never heard a battery drop 6% on idle within 4 hours time. That's just crazy.
A few questions I have:
01. Is my battery defective?
02. When you Force Stop an application, will it auto start after you restart?
Thank you
A drain of 6% with the night clock on looks totally fine to me. Mine does the same as well. I also had alm the bloat wares disabled earlier, then I re-enabled them since the battery life dropped again. Things seems to settling in for me now. Can go a fill day with around 4.5hrs of screen on time.
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Thanks for the respond Amith007
I expect some battery consumption when the screen is used for the Night clock, but is 6% drop within 4 hours time normal? Maybe it is? I don't have experience with an Android device before.
I'm going to test it out tonight without the Night clock to see if I still get the drain or not.
I don't know what burnt it though, was it from the screen or from the app itself, because I don't see Screen usage under the battery usage.
From what i read, the always on screen feature isn't supposed to consume more than 1% per hour. Mine also seems to eat more battery than that though.
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so leave it on the charger at night
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Thanks for the respond Amith007
I expect some battery consumption when the screen is used for the Night clock, but is 6% drop within 4 hours time normal? Maybe it is? I don't have experience with an Android device before.
I'm going to test it out tonight without the Night clock to see if I still get the drain or not.
I don't know what burnt it though, was it from the screen or from the app itself, because I don't see Screen usage under the battery usage.
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I belive you will still see some drain even with the night clock turned off. It's mainly due to the app or service running in the background. I see a drain of 5 to 6% over a period of 7hrs while I sleep. You can out the apps to sleep manually from the Battery menu if you are extremely concerned about it.
The overall battery life is not so good for me after switching to Note 7 from Nexus 6P. However the quick charge sort of solves the problem for me. The charging is extremely fast when compared to my iPhone 6Plus. So I stopped bothering too much about it . I guess it's good if you can make it a day with almost 4.5hrs of screen on time.
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It seems normal to me. That being said, Samsung does have more bloatware and even if you disabled a lot of things, there might still be background processes that are using up battery.
Also, if you haven't already, set screen brightness at auto if you don't want a super bright always on display at night
Thanks all. Sounds like it's the norm then.
A little bit of disappointment to be honest, but I guess I just need to get used to it. It feels like the same experience I had to go through when switching from iPhone 4 to a Windows Phone years ago, but eventually I managed. Plenty of promising features this Note 7 has, too bad if I have to turn off a lot of them for the sake of the battery.
@ParishM
The reason why I left it uncharged is to test out the drain.
A quick question:
I know this just came out last week, but do you guys use a portable battery that you would like to recommend that is optimal for USB type C?
I belive there is an official 3100 battery pack case from Samsung if you wish to charge while on the run
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
There are several Type C quick charge battery packs on amazon which you can look at. I am sure reading the reviews will be a good idea. I can't speak for one as I have never used one so far.
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@amith007
Thanks for the Samsung recommendation, I will take a look at that.
The Amazon review, I'm sure they can be trusted, but I'd prefer a recommendation from this community better. Plenty of the reviews are based on a free product they receive in return for their "honest and unbias' review, I don't know whether to trust them or not.
Lol, those honest and unbiased reviews in exchange of free product are very trustworthy