Wanted to start this thread cuz I just received my 10000 mAh extended battery from zerolemon and wanted to post my results keep in mind this is the first day I've had the battery in and on the first full 12 hour charge that zerolemon recommends on the first charge and then it says to run the battery all the way dead but my sense I'm going to do the last 10% as shown in the picture but I'm going to charge it up full and going on today and see if I get any different results I was just curious on if anybody else has this battery yet and I wanted to see your results
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Just screen on time
My battery percentage still isn't accurate and I've had mine for about a week.
nnnnr14 said:
My battery percentage still isn't accurate and I've had mine for about a week.
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Ya i was kinda curious about that after looking at other ppl so ima try and see what happens
My Results
terpin32 said:
Ya i was kinda curious about that after looking at other ppl so ima try and see what happens
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I've had mine for 3 days, and this seems to be fairly consistent with the results that you're getting. after 1 day and 8 hours, I'm at 19%. slightly above yours, but not worryingly so. Im going to drain it down to 2-1%, and then charge it back up to 100% again. I believe if you do that for 5 charging cycles, it should be totally recalibrated. That said, you do not want to bring your battery that low on a constant basis, as it can damage lithium ion batteries.
I also use Battery Monitor Widget Pro, which gives a fairly accurate representation of how the battery is doing. I certainly recommend checking it out, for those of you who are starting to use the ZeroLemon battery.
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I've had mine for 3 days, and this seems to be fairly consistent with the results that you're getting. after 1 day and 8 hours, I'm at 19%. slightly above yours, but not worryingly so. Im going to drain it down to 2-1%, and then charge it back up to 100% again. I believe if you do that for 5 charging cycles, it should be totally recalibrated. That said, you do not want to bring your battery that low on a constant basis, as it can damage lithium ion batteries.
I also use Battery Monitor Widget Pro, which gives a fairly accurate representation of how the battery is doing. I certainly recommend checking it out, for those of you who are starting to use the ZeroLemon battery.
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Mine keeps going down but when i pull the battery it goes up like 20-30%
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Mine keeps going down but when i pull the battery it goes up like 20-30%
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after 2 days and 3 hours, I downloaded a battery drainer. The battery percentage was at 1% for a total of 12 hours, from 9pm yesterday, to about 9am this morning. I was able to continue watching Netflix and listen to Spotify at 1% both for about 2 hours respectively in that time frame. When I got into work this morning, I used the battery drainer for about 25 seconds before the phone finally quit on me and shut off the phone. I guess that means that Android is still trying to calibrate to the battery.
With all of that said, once you get down below 5% the phone shuts off the ability to manually adjust the screen brightness, and the stock music player will no longer allow you to play music (which is kind of a bummer, as I do have about 15 gigs of music on the phone, and had to switch to using Spotify on my bus ride home....through the Lincoln Tunnel). I don't know what else the phone shuts off, yet. I'll be sure to do a more in depth look next time it gets down that low...which may take another 2-3 days...
Bump on status updates?
Here is mine, on its 2nd charge.
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Here is mine, on its 2nd charge.
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What was your screen on time tho
I've had my ZL battery since release (pre-order), I use it on and off. It still hasn't adjusted to having the larger battery. When it gets down to 3% I bump the corner and it resets the phone giving me 30+% more.
It still lasts way longer than stock, so that's good. I just wish the phone would show the correct battery level.
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I've had my ZL battery since release (pre-order), I use it on and off. It still hasn't adjusted to having the larger battery. When it gets down to 3% I bump the corner and it resets the phone giving me 30+% more.
It still lasts way longer than stock, so that's good. I just wish the phone would show the correct battery level.
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Well if they get this thing rooted you can get it calibrated better and sometimes flashing a custom rom helps to my note 2 had a 9300mah zl battery and that thing was always right so idk y this pine won't
Yup, custom ROM did wonders on my ZL note 2
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Doesn't help with this battery. Nothing dOes. Zerolemon "want the battery calibrated? Do a battery pull" great.
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What was your screen on time tho
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If I understand your question correctly, you're asking whether or not the phones been rebooted? If so, none. During that time of 4 days + hours, the phone went to standby mode when not in use. So I haven't turned off the auto standby mode off to leave the "screen on continously."
Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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lol wacking the phone like a old school tv set
collinstheclown said:
Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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Id turn off fast charging i saw that it doesn't do anything other than hurt the battery Cuz it doesn't know what its at cuz of the size
collinstheclown said:
Just wanted to post a typical day for me. I play a game called ingress, it's a real battery hog.
The spike is a trick I do. When the phone gets really low it dims the screen and enters a power save mode. This sucks for playing a game in the day light... The trick is to give it a quick whack in the upper left corner, it moves the battery just enough to do a quick reset. You could do it manually, but sometimes that changes the battery history.
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This is what mine does everyday after i pull the battery for the first time after a full night charge
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anyone come up with a list to enable/disable to improve battery?
I think the battery is already pretty phenomenal.
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Not for me
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Is it better than mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266699
Stop using the light and orientation sensors. So turn off auto-rotate and don't use auto-screen brightness. Also use wifi when possible; 3g will consume more power if your signal is weak.
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ShouldI hard reset
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It is not good for me either. I am loosing about 15% a hour with the screen off and not even using it. If I use the phone i can just watch it fall about 1% every 5 min. I don't get it. the only thing i have in the background running is weather, twitter and gmail. That is it nothing else. The Android OS sits about 86% use in the batter use screen. I have no idea what is causing this. Any help would be great.
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It is not good for me either. I am loosing about 15% a hour with the screen off and not even using it. If I use the phone i can just watch it fall about 1% every 5 min. I don't get it. the only thing i have in the background running is weather, twitter and gmail. That is it nothing else. The Android OS sits about 86% use in the batter use screen. I have no idea what is causing this. Any help would be great.
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Run the phone down completely, to the point where it shuts off. Then charge until the led turns blue(fully charged), then turn it on. I'll screenshot my battery status tonight.
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Is android os always posed to be that high?
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Yes lol
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Is it better than mine?
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Yes it is always posted that high. I have also already tried the suggestion of completely draining the battery and charging to 100% twice now. Doesn't seem to help. This is not my first android phone so I have tried all the typical turn stuff off. I started with the hero and then went to the evo. Then jumped to verizon for thunderbold and now back on sprint for this phone obviously. So far this is the worst battery life I have had yet. Seeing what you guys are getting though gives me hope.
I have tried using spareparts to get more battery information but get a force close when trying to do that.
Man I know that battery results range pretty wildly, but I'm averaging 10% loss per 2 hours.
On launch day I was on it from about 3:30pm until about 10pm and only lost about 40%. And when I say on it, I bet the screen on time was 95% of that time.
So far, the battery life is one of my favorite things about this phone. First time I've felt comfortable enough to run a live wallpaper.
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Man I know that battery results range pretty wildly, but I'm averaging 10% loss per 2 hours.
On launch day I was on it from about 3:30pm until about 10pm and only lost about 40%. And when I say on it, I bet the screen on time was 95% of that time.
So far, the battery life is one of my favorite things about this phone. First time I've felt comfortable enough to run a live wallpaper.
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You are lucky then, If i use the phone I will loose 40% in about 2 hours no problem. Also if you are loosing about 5% an hour that will only give you about 20 hours total before your dead. I see people reporting they are getting over a day. Just don't see how. Are they just not using their phone at all.
What does everyone have there screen brightness to if not set to auto brightness? Also what is everyone's screen mode set to?
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What does everyone have there screen brightness to if not set to auto brightness? Also what is everyone's screen mode set to?
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I have mine at manual and just under the A. I have the mode at standard.
What I do is look at my active app widget to make sure I have no apps running. It is nice being there. Messaging sometimes hangs, I have noticed that.
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You SHOULD always when you get a new battery fully Drain it and then fully charge the battery with the device OFF. Thats what I did with my phone. I kept using it once I got it, it lasted around 5 hours before the phone shut off during a phone call. then when I plugged it in to charge, I plugged it in and did not turn it on and waited till it fully charged with the Blue Light. I dont know about the normal thing now adays with lithium ion batteries but you were always warned in the packaging to let your battery fully cyle its first cycle with no use at all. The cells in the batteries have a memory type of design and if you dont fully charge the battery you can prevent it from knowing its full capacity.
Now I dont know if this is true anymore with the new battery production of the manufacturers now may power cycle the batteries before they seal the whole package so the customers dont have to do it. Maybe why when you get your device the battery is around 50% now like mine came. I remember older devices you could not use your device until you fully charged the battery the first time.
About Screen Brightness, I learned from a Epic user that the best way to conserve battry usage was to always keep your Screen Brightness at 10% (Gotta love the Touchwiz Brightness Changing with the Top Notification bar, this device will not show the slider bar like Touchwiz 3.0 on the Epic but IT STILL WORKS!!!!). I have noticed that at the lowest brightness setting I can still see everything vividly enough to work with it and im getting over 24 hours with moderate normal usage (like only 1-3 5-10 minute phone calls, surfing the net, surfing for new apps) This is my first android phone. I also have had 4G turned off and Wifi off all this time as I have no way to access those right now. I also have GPS turned off because I havent needed to use it yet. I pretty much have everything but Basic needs turned on besides all the Factory default presets. I also Turned my screen mode to DYNAMIC, which seems to show more vivid colors like I use on my Samsung TV for my computer usage.
Now I turned off Live wallpaper and im using one of the preinstall basic Grey ones (the one with the asfault looking spot light) (I have been trying to hit the crazy benchmarks people are getting trying to find out why I am not getting the 93+mflops mine keeps hitting 80's) So I dont know what heavy usage is doing to my phone.
but then again this is only under 48 hours of ownage. My first full night off the charger was 1 day and 3hours before it said I was 5% battery life and I plugged it in.
I just got my gs3 2 weeks ago. Since last week, whenever i unplug it from a night of charging, the battery immediately drops to 98%. I had rooted my phone, but i restored it to like out of the box this past weekend. Is this a known bug?
Thanks.
I don't think the batteries charge past 98% as a fail safe mechanism.
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So the 100% is a lie?
also, what's odd is that if i unplug it initially, it drops to 98%. if i plug it back in for a few minutes and then unplug it again, it's up at 100 and seems to drain relatively normally.
The battery life on this phone is a bit of a mystery..I have had mine replaced due to just horrible batt life. It would drop 10% with about 10 mins of browsing. The replacement has been marginally better. I have no idea how people are getting 4 hrs screen on time with 20% left. I just flashed the MIUI JB4.1 Rom and its still not any better. Makes me think I have purchase another batt...
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The battery life on this phone is a bit of a mystery..I have had mine replaced due to just horrible batt life. It would drop 10% with about 10 mins of browsing. The replacement has been marginally better. I have no idea how people are getting 4 hrs screen on time with 20% left. I just flashed the MIUI JB4.1 Rom and its still not any better. Makes me think I have purchase another batt...
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A common problem with the battery life is an error with account synching. Every few phones will have this issue, and it is easily fixed with a factory reset. Basically the phone will try every 3 seconds or so to synch your accounts only to fail, and try again. Causes the phone to drain in less than a half hour.
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A common problem with the battery life is an error with account synching. Every few phones will have this issue, and it is easily fixed with a factory reset. Basically the phone will try every 3 seconds or so to synch your accounts only to fail, and try again. Causes the phone to drain in less than a half hour.
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If i flashed a custom rom, I would've already factory reset though...
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If i flashed a custom rom, I would've already factory reset though...
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I retract my previous statement, I obviously don't know how to read.
Still, doesn't hurt to check. Go into your settings and check your accounts. If any of them have a red error symbol when you click on them then you may be having this issue.
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The battery life on this phone is a bit of a mystery..I have had mine replaced due to just horrible batt life. It would drop 10% with about 10 mins of browsing. The replacement has been marginally better. I have no idea how people are getting 4 hrs screen on time with 20% left. I just flashed the MIUI JB4.1 Rom and its still not any better. Makes me think I have purchase another batt...
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It's possible. I got pretty close to that yesterday but that's being connected to wifi all day at work and at home and no videos. It's possible doing very minimalist tasks.
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Imo, battery life on this out any around phone is not a mystery. Auto sync, auto bright, auto rotate, anything "auto" will cause more battery to be used. I can also tell you that simply hitting the home button to leave an app, instead of using the back button, will cause more battery drain. Wifi uses less battery than mobile data. Bluetooth will also cause a slightly higher battery drain. Email, or any app, set to push will devour a battery. Leaving apps open when locking the phone will cause slightly higher battery drain. Leaving wifi turned on when not connected to wifi will also cause a drain.
I know a lot of that is what people consider a smartphone to be used for. But with a little tweaking, most can get their battery life better. I personally leave auto everything off, screen timeout 1 minute, screen bright 25%, wifi/bt on only when in use, email set to poll when i open the app. I think you get the idea.
Screen timeout means nothing. Just put your phone to sleep...
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So the 100% is a lie?
also, what's odd is that if i unplug it initially, it drops to 98%. if i plug it back in for a few minutes and then unplug it again, it's up at 100 and seems to drain relatively normally.
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Yes the 100% is a lie. Most phone manufactures only allow the phone to charge to 96%-98%. This gives the life of the batteries longevity. When I had the galaxy nexus developers would add 100% charge into their kernels so those who wanted to fully charge their device could...
Also if you look at your phone right after you take it off the charger it will say 98% but if you let the phone sit it goes back up to 100%. Don't know why though. I am no dev just my observations.
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My battery on the One X I think is bad, when I check facebook or Twitter on WiFi, it drains 1% every minute and it annoys me. Playing simple games also drains 1% every minute...really annoying. Is there a problem please help?
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My battery on the One X I think is bad, when I check facebook or Twitter on WiFi, it drains 1% every minute and it annoys me. Playing simple games also drains 1% every minute...really annoying. Is there a problem please help?
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If You are under mobile data It is normal
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Same thing here!
Bryannrx said:
My battery on the One X I think is bad, when I check facebook or Twitter on WiFi, it drains 1% every minute and it annoys me. Playing simple games also drains 1% every minute...really annoying. Is there a problem please help?
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It happens to me as well, but only if I turn on WiFi and let the phone use it´s online services.
Hoping that the Jelly Bean update with Sense 4+ brings some kind of optimization.
I have my HOX configured pretty much like my SGS3 and my S3 lasts 20, 30% longer and about 7ºC colder.
Same here, kinda want to change my phone again if HTC doesnt fix this problem.
do a battery calibration, app like this works https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
before the app 1 day usage = 60% of power left
after = 85% left
HTC made too much of the safty triggers for the battery if u use it lightly every day its minimizing side effects by making new one (less charge)
How long have you had your One X, OP? It takes several full charge cycles for the battery to calibrate, it's one thing about One X that's weird. I remember being completely disheartened with battery life when I first got mine - and it was horrible, pretty much like you've described it, 1% every minute or so - but only kept it because my mobile operator wouldn't replace it before making sure there is a hardware malfunction, which could have taken weeks, and I was impatient. Then I learned from xda that this slow calibration phenomenon is a thing with this phone.
I hope you're right svucinic811 I'm really getting worried here
I am wondering what a good rate of discharge is cos if i leave it on standby overnight it went from 99% to 79% in about 8.5 hours. personally i think it should have been 99% to 89% in 8.5hrs but anyways...
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I am wondering what a good rate of discharge is cos if i leave it on standby overnight it went from 99% to 79% in about 8.5 hours. personally i think it should have been 99% to 89% in 8.5hrs but anyways...
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It should only discharge at most a few percent. Check your wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats.
tomascus said:
It should only discharge at most a few percent. Check your wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats.
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will do....what should i look for?
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do a battery calibration, app like this works https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
before the app 1 day usage = 60% of power left
after = 85% left
HTC made too much of the safty triggers for the battery if u use it lightly every day its minimizing side effects by making new one (less charge)
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Will this work even without rooting my phone? I'm running on Stock Sense 4.1, but this seems like it would help a lot.
As well, if you (for a couple days) go without charging your phone in the middle of the day and let it run down until you charge it again I think you will see some results in the battery life. My battery would die everyday before school ended for me (Wake up at 7:00 AM, Phone dead by 5:00 PM). Unless it was just a placebo affect for me, its worth a try.
Does anyone else has this problem where, yes the battery drains fast, but takes forever to get charged to 100% ? FYI, I'm using the real charger, not via PC~USB
how do i calibrate betterbatterystats?
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Does anyone else has this problem where, yes the battery drains fast, but takes forever to get charged to 100% ? FYI, I'm using the real charger, not via PC~USB
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What's forever? 3 hours is about normal, unless you're heavily using it.
You don't have to calibrate Better Battery Stats. Just charge it up to full, then wait for it to happen again. Open it up, choose Since unplugged (obviously you should not have plugged it in at any point of time since the full charge), then take a screen shot of Kernel Wakelock, Partial Wakelocks and Process.
@Rohin, USB Cable quality plays a big part as well. A cheap rubbish USB cable even connected to the wall socket charger can only charge at 300+mAh, while a good one can charge up to about 750+mAh. About 85%-90%, charging usually slows down to about 200-300mAh, then slows down even more as it approaches 100%.
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will do....what should i look for?
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partial wakelocks, if any.
i wonder if this is still a problem in 4.0.4
http://phandroid.com/2012/04/14/htc-one-x-battery-life-got-you-down-here-is-a-fix/
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partial wakelocks, if any.
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i don't know how to read the stats on it.
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i don't know how to read the stats on it.
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So give it about a few hours on standby and then run BetterBatteryStats, then select partial wake locks from the drop down box and it should present you with a list of the wake locks, easy enough?
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So give it about a few hours on standby and then run BetterBatteryStats, then select partial wake locks from the drop down box and it should present you with a list of the wake locks, easy enough?
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oh ok, i see some have varying red bar sizes, what do they mean?
I had my One X for about 3 months...I don't know sometimes my battery is good and sometimes its bad...hope when the OTA update for jelly bean helps to use less battery. Who knows how to recalibrate the One X battery by charging??
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can someone (2, or 3 people) post their battery estimated time left when the phone is 100% charged. I think i have a faulty one but i dont remember what was the estimated time left for a phone with good battery. I know its estimated but i have mine showing 15 hours left when 100 charged, so i think its dying again...
Someone? PLease?
three days and 20 hours, still on original battery.
My device Z1c rooted and Existenz custom ROM using...in my device it showing 1 day and 30 mins. So my battery is faulty...?
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three days and 20 hours, still on original battery.
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Wow, that a lot. I dont eve think i got that when i bought the phone. You dont use it a lot, do you?
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My device Z1c rooted and Existenz custom ROM using...in my device it showing 1 day and 30 mins. So my battery is faulty...?
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Not necessary. depends on your use..
Anyone else can share they battery estimated time at 100% ?
profyler said:
Wow, that a lot. I dont eve think i got that when i bought the phone. You dont use it a lot, do you?
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i didn't say that's how long it lasts. just how long it estimates when it's at 100%, which is what you asked.
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profyler said:
Wow, that a lot. I dont eve think i got that when i bought the phone. You dont use it a lot, do you?
i didn't say that's how long it lasts. just how long it estimates when it's at 100%, which is what you asked.
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Oh All right, got it.
I thought it maybe shows the remaining time based on user use, but i guess not.
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Guys sometimes my phone when m using the phone in between the battery is 15% suddenly goes to 0% and get's power off...does this mean my battery got faulty or is there any solution for this...?
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Guys sometimes my phone when m using the phone in between the battery is 15% suddenly goes to 0% and get's power off...does this mean my battery got faulty or is there any solution for this...?
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Your battery is dying. Time to get a new one. There is a thread for that issue here.
Battery currently 50% and says I have approx 1day and 1hour left.(stock Android 5.1)
My GSAM Battery Monitor says I get average 1day 19hr per charge with average over 2months.
I'm on stock 5.1 with root access and have my phone tool'd up with frequency/governor management and stuff like powersave governor for screen off and etc.
Battery use is very subjective on a wide range of settings, location, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, telephony signal strength, LTE and general usage patterns, so one person's setting/use will not reflect another.
That said, one should get 24hrs easy even with over 4hrs SOT.
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Battery currently 50% and says I have approx 1day and 1hour left.(stock Android 5.1)
My GSAM Battery Monitor says I get average 1day 19hr per charge with average over 2months.
I'm on stock 5.1 with root access and have my phone tool'd up with frequency/governor management and stuff like powersave governor for screen off and etc.
Battery use is very subjective on a wide range of settings, location, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, telephony signal strength, LTE and general usage patterns, so one person's setting/use will not reflect another.
That said, one should get 24hrs easy even with over 4hrs SOT.
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Do you think that the estimated time left showing is relative to the user experience/history?
I got 15 hours estimated time left when 100%, bu I play a lot of games with it, thats why I ask. If its not, than my battery is dying...
profyler said:
Do you think that the estimated time left showing is relative to the user experience/history?
I got 15 hours estimated time left when 100%, bu I play a lot of games with it, thats why I ask. If its not, than my battery is dying...
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The Z1C battery stat's reflect the current real-time usage and project the available time left based on what is currently happening.
If your phone is configured optimally and you don't use your phone over night, it should only use approx 5% of battery.
If you use GSAM Battery Monitor you can check if any apps are keeping your phone awake, number of time your phone is woken and high CPU users.
You can check for telephony signal strength.
My phone is 100% signal strength (very good)
How much power is used to keep your screen displayed, with dimmer better.
Also you can see if your phone is in deep sleep when phone is not in use.
Over a 12hour period my phone is in deep sleep for 9hrs.
Use another phone for a couple of days and leave the Z1C with screen off for those few days.
If not used you should see over 3 days of battery life.
There is no answer to your question.
At the end of the day it's up to you to optimise your phone as best you can and base your decisions on previous battery use/experience with your known workloads.
If you're not gaming for a day or two and you have your phone as optimised as you can, then, 15hrs is crap and your battery is on the way out.
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The Z1C battery stat's reflect the current real-time usage and project ..............
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Thanks man. I got a 87% battery when i woke up (7 hours sleep), after a 100% charge. Stamina and wifi always on.
Im not playing any games today to see how far the battery is going to last.
thanks anyway
15 hours estimated battery but it hold ~19 hours. Still horrible since i used very lttle of the phone today
Sot = 47 mins.
Yep, battery is dying
damn
Sony Xperia Z1C Battery
Attached is a snapshot of the battery use in my Z1C running Android 5.1 stock with root access.
As noted, when the phone is not in use the battery almost flat-lines with very little use.
When battery use is almost a perfect triangle on the two axis and from 100 to 0%, then it's a good indicator the battery is failing/failed.
Replacing a battery on a Xperia Z1C ...well it sucks...to say the least :crying:
You need to add additional adhesive on the top left near the camera location as that's the area that tends to come unstuck after the back cover is replaced.
Also good batteries for an Xperia Z1C may be hard to find now.
The original batteries are marked with the manufacture date as yy-ww (Year and week[0-52])
If you find an original battery AND it DOESN'T have the NFC conductor glued on it, then you have a good chance of getting a good battery.
If the NFC conductor is glued onto the battery, then there is every chance the battery is just an old one pulled out of a previous Xperia Z1C.
Good luck.
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Attached is a snapshot of the battery use in my Z1C running Android 5.1 stock with root access.
As noted, when the phone is not in use the battery almost flat-lines with very little use.
When battery use is almost a perfect triangle on the two axis and from 100 to 0%, then it's a good indicator the battery is failing/failed.
Replacing a battery on a Xperia Z1C ...well it sucks...to say the least :crying:
You need to add additional adhesive on the top left near the camera location as that's the area that tends to come unstuck after the back cover is replaced.
Also good batteries for an Xperia Z1C may be hard to find now.
The original batteries are marked with the manufacture date as yy-ww (Year and week[0-52])
If you find an original battery AND it DOESN'T have the NFC conductor glued on it, then you have a good chance of getting a good battery.
If the NFC conductor is glued onto the battery, then there is every chance the battery is just an old one pulled out of a previous Xperia Z1C.
Good luck.
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Thanks man. How much SOT do you have in a 100% cycle? Your battery seems like awsome watching that print screen.
My little z1c is a frankenstein. I already changed the battery one time, the back cover 4, times. I repaired the mic, and changed the screen two times.
My screen is a generic one wich must be set to 100% auto brightness.. That also affects battery, but even so i think my batt is dying...
Xperia Z1 Compact Screen on Time
profyler said:
My little z1c is a frankenstein. I already changed the battery one time, the back cover 4, times. I repaired the mic, and changed the screen two times.
My screen is a generic one wich must be set to 100% auto brightness.. That also affects battery, but even so i think my batt is dying...
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A tube of glue and an Xperia Z1C are almost synonymous with each other these days.
I had to glue the bottom speaker cover and the magnetic charger back on again... plus the back cover several times.
Currently I have used 25% of the battery and 2hrs SOT as seen in the attached.
I get a reported ~7hrs of on screen time per 100% charge cycle.
Email, WhatsApp, web browsing using RSS in Opera Mini, Tapatalk, Shopping apps, system/file management, Youtube and etc... (No gaming nor social Facebook, Twitter, Tinder...and etc)
Deleted all Bloatware out of /system/app and system/priv-app.
Update - ..ummm.. is Clash of Clans and Battle Command gaming...me thinks not.. but maybe it is.. ..any way throw a 15min mix of that into the pot too.
If you're not using much CPU you'll get more SOT, which is why gaming is a bad indicator as it's hard on CPU and screen, unless you have a game that does not get updated anymore(known stable unchanged test environment) and you benchmarked it a few years ago.
Then you can use the same game as a good indicator for any current status changes.
Dr Goodvibes said:
A tube of glue and an Xperia Z1C are almost synonymous with each other these days.
I had to glue the bottom speaker cover and the magnetic charger back on again... plus the back cover several times.
Currently I have used 25% of the battery and 2hrs SOT as seen in the attached.
I get a reported ~7hrs of on screen time per 100% charge cycle.
Email, WhatsApp, web browsing using RSS in Opera Mini, Tapatalk, Shopping apps, system/file management, Youtube and etc... (No gaming nor social Facebook, Twitter, Tinder...and etc)
Deleted all Bloatware out of /system/app and system/priv-app.
Update - ..ummm.. is Clash of Clans and Battle Command gaming...me thinks not.. but maybe it is.. ..any way throw a 15min mix of that into the pot too.
If you're not using much CPU you'll get more SOT, which is why gaming is a bad indicator as it's hard on CPU and screen, unless you have a game that does not get updated anymore(known stable unchanged test environment) and you benchmarked it a few years ago.
Then you can use the same game as a good indicator for any current status changes.
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2 hrs SOT is awsome for 25% battery. I got 1 hour for 100%. But it doesnt mater. I bought another generic battery yesterday (originals are almost impossible to find). So lets see what it happens after.
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy
rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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rcobourn said:
So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
RedsonRising said:
It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
aznmode said:
Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
ccigas said:
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
winol said:
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
DeeXii said:
Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.
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Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
sikclown said:
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.
Is everyone having problems on Verizon?
Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.