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S9 vs Note8

Hi everybody,
It's black Friday and i want to change my phone.
I can find the note8 and the S9 at the same price. Both in Exynos variant.
S9 has treble, note8 better battery. Which one should i get ?
Thanks

Znuf said:
Hi everybody,
It's black Friday and i want to change my phone.
I can find the note8 and the S9 at the same price. Both in Exynos variant.
S9 has treble, note8 better battery. Which one should i get ?
Thanks
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The Note 8 because the S9 with the 9810 performs like a slightly better Exynos 8895 with worse efficiency. Although the Note 8 has no project treble. If you get the Note 8 you would have to rely on Lineage.
Read this article about the Exynos 9810 and the s9:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12520/the-galaxy-s9-review/8
I would say import the G9600 which is the the Snapdragon s9 which has a boot loader which can be unlocked although the development is dead but at least you can get TWRP and flash a GSI and get project treble.
Or get the Exynos s9+ bigger battery and it performs like a slightly better Note 8 with about the same battery life/SOT.
I would stay far away from the regular s9 because a lot of people are reporting bad battery life because of the Exynos 9810. Either pay a bit more and get the s9+ with the Exy 9810 or get the Note 8 and rely on Lineage. Btw I have the s9+ Exynos.

Thanks ??? awesome details!!! Thanks a lot for all this informations.
All plus variant are too expensive here.
Note 8 has no stereo speaker too :/
I found a MI mix2s for 350$ I think I'll go with this.

Is Mediatek chip is better than Snapdragon as redmi said?

We already saw all the performance of Mediatek chip, the performance is not better than snapdragon. But redmi claims that the mediatek chip is better than snapdragon 712. What do you guys think about this?

HarishMadhav said:
We already saw all the performance of Mediatek chip, the performance is not better than snapdragon. But redmi claims that the mediatek chip is better than snapdragon 712. What do you guys think about this?
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Of course, G90T is more powerfull than SD712...
CPU : Cortex A76 are better than Cortex A75 (Kryo 360 is a very slight customisation)
GPU : Mali G76mc4 is better than Adreno 616
RAM : 2133Mhz is better than 1866 (both lpddr4x dual Channel)
ISP : 3x MNFR up to 64MP are better than 2x MNFR up to 48MP.
Thinking the opposite is nothing but forejudgement...or troll.
Of course, you can find some apps that will run better on 712 (for exemple, emulators), but it's not a problem of power but of app's unoptimized code.

Not everything is all about specs, but about optimization and quality of sources, of which Mediatek is not famous at all. Broken sources, ROMs filled with bugs and etc. It would be great, if Mediatek would have forums like CAF, that would considerably boost development, but...
I once used Mediatek device and got fed up with it being completely locked and sources being broken completely. My opinion, though.

Just look at the Xiaomi Redmi Pro ( this one ). It came with android 6.0 and never received any further android update. I had that phone, and even though it had a 4000mAh battery with amoled display, it was not able to last even a day.... After that phone, I will never buy another one with mediatek soc...

Termi92 said:
Just look at the Xiaomi Redmi Pro ( this one ). It came with android 6.0 and never received any further android update. I had that phone, and even though it had a 4000mAh battery with amoled display, it was not able to last even a day.... After that phone, I will never buy another one with mediatek soc...
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Same here

Termi92 said:
Just look at the Xiaomi Redmi Pro ( this one ). It came with android 6.0 and never received any further android update. I had that phone, and even though it had a 4000mAh battery with amoled display, it was not able to last even a day.... After that phone, I will never buy another one with mediatek soc...
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But it's not like that this time, I easily get 9 hours SOT with gaming.

Battery life for me is VERY good. About to go to bed with 50% battery left with light use during the day and heavy use all evening.

Termi92 said:
Just look at the Xiaomi Redmi Pro ( this one ). It came with android 6.0 and never received any further android update. I had that phone, and even though it had a 4000mAh battery with amoled display, it was not able to last even a day.... After that phone, I will never buy another one with mediatek soc...
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My Redmi Note 8 Pro lasts for about a day and 10 hours mostly. At the end of the day there is almost 48% battery left. I'm much satisfied with its battery timings

HarishMadhav said:
We already saw all the performance of Mediatek chip, the performance is not better than snapdragon. But redmi claims that the mediatek chip is better than snapdragon 712. What do you guys think about this?
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I am very satisfied with Mediatek performance on this phone. I noticed big difference between Redmi note 7 that I have with Redmi note 8 pro that I have now.

Think things are different this time, the redmi N8 pro is a game changer this phone is awesome the battery life lasts all day power using and the phones a beast. i speed tested it against my sammy note 9 eight gig version and my Mi mix 3 eight gig version and it was neck and neck. But here we are a note 9 eight gig is a 1200$ phone and the mi mix 3 is a 450$ phone and a 240$ is running with them and the camera is outstanding better than the sammy n9 and the mm3 so dollars for dollars there's a big difference there.

same price as mi 9 lite...
i would go for the mi 9 lite

chenrp said:
same price as mi 9 lite...
i would go for the mi 9 lite
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Besides screen nothing is better on lite, right?

Foreal_Bruh said:
Besides screen nothing is better on lite, right?
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Not exactly
The snapdragon cpu is more supported over the years

Galaxy S20 FE 5G Snapdragon version- EU region

Dear All,
I have created this thread because it is perfect to have Snapdragon 865 processor on the Samsung so called "flagship" phone here in Europe.
Also with this Snapdragon chipset for EU market we have also warranty and service, because the phone is designated for our region.
Feel free to comment, add home screen screenshots or post issues or feedbacks about this phone.
Also, you can add on this thread any useful information about any OneUI 3.0 beta or Android 11 Beta for this device.
Thanks and cheers.

i just placed the order for S20 FE 5g Mystic White Snapdragon 865 with 6GB RAM.
And I am returning the Note20Ultra Exynos 990 model because i get no more than 4hrs SoT no matter what i do.
I chosed the performance and battery instead of S-Pen.
Cheers

AllAboutTech said:
i just placed the order for S20 FE 5g Mystic White Snapdragon 865 with 6GB RAM.
And I am returning the Note20Ultra Exynos 990 model because i get no more than 4hrs SoT no matter what i do.
I chosed the performance and battery instead of S-Pen.
Cheers
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Yup, I am using Exynos S20 FE, battery life is crap

dzontra83 said:
Yup, I am using Exynos S20 FE, battery life is crap
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from the consumer point of view, maybe Samsung will hear us saying the following:
make Fan Edition to every flasgship which they will launch from now on
launch this Fan Edition variant along with the flagship series, no later
make the Fan Edition with the Snapdragon for 5G regions includin Europe, as they did with the S20 FE
add by default 8GB RAM and 128GB space along with eSIM
also every Fan Edition version to have flat screen

How is the battery on the 5G/865 version?

4h30m SoT with 38% battery remaining, at first charge since out of the box and counting. so happy
still learning pattern.
S20FE Snapdragon 865 version EU.

Question to those with the 865 EU version, do you have automatic call recording option built in?

Noam23 said:
Question to those with the 865 EU version, do you have automatic call recording option built in?
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no..

AllAboutTech said:
no..
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Which country are you at?
That's really weird because the S20 line has call recording on the EU variants... Why did they remove it for the FE?

jvidia said:
How is the battery on the 5G/865 version?
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S20 fe 5g sd 865 eu
i heavily debloated the phone via adb i can do easy 11hr+ sot (60hz (120hz is useless to me))

BADA 187 said:
S20 fe 5g sd 865 eu
i heavily debloated the phone via adb i can do easy 11hr+ sot (60hz (120hz is useless to me))
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Would you mind sharing what you removed/disabled?
As in debloating... that would be helpful to others as well
Thanks in advance!

MasterThiefGarrett said:
Would you mind sharing what you removed/disabled?
As in debloating... that would be helpful to others as well
Thanks in advance!
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Here you go, its a list i collected from several places, credits go to them whoever deserve it (been a while to remember where it came from).
i have used this on my Galaxy s10e and S20 FE 5G, all with no problems
removes all google stuff while keeping play store intact
removes all samsung stuff while keeping Samsung DeX intact
removes some additional stuff like facebook/spotify/netflix etc etc
the [DEBLOAT] ofc does the debloating
the [BLOAT] restores everything again
DEBLOAT:
https://github.com/N7-BADA/random-stuff/blob/main/[DEBLOAT}Samsung S-Series.txt
BLOAT:
https://github.com/N7-BADA/random-stuff/blob/main/[BLOAT}Samsung S-Series.txt
My GitHub will get updates in the future, files also in attachment probably wont update these

Does anyone with an EU device have OEM unlock available?

TheTrueJayTwenty said:
Does anyone with an EU device have OEM unlock available?
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Yes, mine has unlock available, model SM-G781B
Inviato dal mio SM-G781B utilizzando Tapatalk

Noam23 said:
Which country are you at?
That's really weird because the S20 line has call recording on the EU variants... Why did they remove it for the FE?
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That is not true.
Here in germany no newer Samsung device has the call recording option as it is illegal here to record calls without permission of the other side.
It can only be enabled with a CSC change to INS.

Anyone know Can I flash Hong Kong S20 FE 5G (G9810) to the EU S20 FE 5G, they both run on Snapdragon 865

S20 FE 5G -firmware upgrade - ATJI
Galaxy S20 FE 5G G781BXXU1ATJ1 -October firmware upgrade

AllAboutTech said:
Galaxy S20 FE 5G G781BXXU1ATJ1 -October firmware upgrade
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Does it really improve touch screen? So many People reported issues with touch last week

AlexisXDA said:
Does it really improve touch screen? So many People reported issues with touch last week
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i have 0 issues with my screen, ive seen the reports. i guess im one of the lucky ones .
i didnt receive the update yet tho.. (EU)

Does it have dual sim enabled? If so that's your model code?

Question OP 9 Pro or S21 Ultra?

Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english

I had both in my cart and chose 9pro. I paid 800 usf for it. The s21 ultra is 1200 usd. The 9 pro has the same processor and everyone talked crap about the camera, but I think it's pretty good. They have same 5g processor. Samsung has micro sd slot which I got away from years ago. Samsungs touchwiz is something I don't care for after having 2 phones a s7edge and a note 10 very laggy(uses a lot of resources). If you want the best camera on a phone buy a nokia or Google phone.
I have also owned a 6t and 7tpro mclaren version phones.

At the current prices, I'd take the S21 Ultra. Having used both Samsung and OnePlus phones, I think Samsung provides a more polished product. I'm not saying that the OnePlus 9 Pro is a bad phone, but it doesn't seem like a good value compared to the competition at the moment. Heck, a brand new OnePlus 8 Pro is $599 through OnePlus right now and has virtually all the same qualities. The reports of overheating and unstable software don't help the 9 Pro either. If it gets a discounted price in the coming months, then it may be a more compelling option.

I'd probably take the Ultra. It's a better device all around, but to me it's a bit TOO big. Updates will be faster with the Ultra, Samsung has consistently been putting out monthly updates since the S10. The device will also be supported longer, if you keep your phones for a few years.

OP 9 pro. In my country Samsung sells s21 ultra with exynos processors So no thanks.. If it would have snapdragon I would've choosen s21 ultra

The main complaint about the Exynos is that it gets hotter. Well, the OP9 Pro overheats anyways, so there's no real difference. Oh, and people complain about the Exynos being 0.0xxx% slower, like they could actually feel the difference.

entropism said:
The main complaint about the Exynos is that it gets hotter. Well, the OP9 Pro overheats anyways, so there's no real difference. Oh, and people complain about the Exynos being 0.0xxx% slower, like they could actually feel the difference.
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Yeah I hear the exynos is just about as good as this year's 888 and it's almost impossible to tell the difference.

entropism said:
The main complaint about the Exynos is that it gets hotter. Well, the OP9 Pro overheats anyways, so there's no real difference. Oh, and people complain about the Exynos being 0.0xxx% slower, like they could actually feel the difference.
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I haven't had any problems with overheating of the OnePlus 9 pro yet. In what situations should this happen?

Both the Exynos and SD888 run hot and throttle. Here is a pretty good breakdown and comparison of the 2 chips: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16463/snapdragon-888-vs-exynos-2100-galaxy-s21-ultra
More worrisome for the Exynos is its weird clock behaviour, with the new chip really struggling in maintaining its peak frequencies other than for very brief moments – the Snapdragon 888’s X1 core had no such issues. My Exynos S21 Ultra chip bin was quite terrible here, but the better silicon on my second S21 doesn’t improve things too much either.
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Basically, the Exynos can run as well as the SD888 in terms of peak performance, but that's partially because Samsung is running it overclocked and it gets HOT. Yes, the SD888 gets hot and throttles, but the Exynos gets hotter sooner, drains battery, and the GPU just sucks (and equally power hungry).

Thanks to everybody for your help. I've decided by S21 Ultra because of the price. Here un Argentina i can get it for less money.
I'm a Oneplus follower but this time, my wallet choose.

As a person that has owned an S21 Ultra since it was launched in the USA, I would choose the OP 9 Pro. I have just ordered one through tmobile and can't wait!
Personally, the S21 Ultra was primarily used for youtube vanced, browsing, and as a business cell. I highly value the software and prefer OP's Oxygen OS over OneUI, hence why I'm replacing the S21 Ultra.
Both phones are great and you can't go wrong with either, but software matters the most to me and I didn't think I'd miss OOS as much as I have.

I know OP already made the decision.
Here in the US the OnePlus is cheaper.
I found a mint 9 Pro for $900 with the original receipt and unused buds.
The S21 ultra is about $1000. But can't be rooted unless I spend $150 for a bootloader unlock. That makes it more than $1300 because I have to pay tax on the phone.
Too rich for my blood.

Samsung with Exynox, NO !
Samsung full of Bloatware! Bleah! Oxygen is one of the cleanest Android OS.
I saw many reviews about camera with S21ultra & OnePlu 9 pro. S21 is better, but not by a lot.

I prefer the the OnePlus here in the usa and the Global 7pro, 8pro, 9pro have worked out well for me with T-Mobile!

Actually I prefer the camera of the OP9 Pro over the Mi11 Ultra and the S21 Ultra. The other two might be better for you if you need 10x Zoom very often.
OS and updates? Samsung has quick updates as well, but Oxygen OS from OnePlus is just so clean and close to stock imo. Xiaomis MIUI is pretty good as well - though I had so many bugs on my mi10 pro which haven't been fixed. And they don't update that often or the OTA doesn't work that well - I was on October 2020's android security version until April 2021.
Charging and battery: OnePlus and Xiaomi charge much faster than Samsung. Battery life is probably really close between those 3.
Rooting the Samsung will break Knox with all it's downsides. A lot depends on your preferences but I would go with the OnePlus.

HEROEdelREVES said:
Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english
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Depends. Are you an Android lover or a nonce. ?

In my country
S21U no warranty imported Snap888 (256GB not 128GB) = 1,014 USD
S21U retail 1yr warranty Exynos = 826 USD
OP9P no warranty imported RAM8/256GB = 839 USD
OP9P retail soon (nearly into the market)

HEROEdelREVES said:
Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english
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HEROEdelREVES said:
Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english
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9 pro over exynos s21U. Coz exynos sux, oneui is another meh. software is pretty meh on samsung after android 11. If you getting sd s21U then maibe. If you more concerned on the camera than anything else then go for samsung

Don't Leave out the charging speed.
50w wireless.., not many phones does that with cable plug in.
65w cable charging, is even faster. Awesome.

General OnePlus 11R

Don't see XDA dedicated forum for it.
They added IR Blaster, interesting. And a smidgen more screen size? and like 1.5K resolution (no LPTO screen). Charger 100W.
Yes, it's budget. Last year's Snapdragon (so no 5G band Aggregation), and stays at UFS 3.1, LPPDR 4 (so you won't see lower temps & 30% less power used like regular 11).
Fold coming later this year.
Hhmmm...

Xda forum for 11R will be small like the one for 10R.
10R 150w for a buget phone is Great ! i use it for more than 6 months.
On Giztop 11R is 499$ Usa for 12/256 Gb. With OxygenOS is you want.

horsecharles said:
(so no 5G band Aggregation)
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X65 supports 5G aggregation. The X65 was the first modem I would have recommended for someone looking to keep a phone for awhile.
5G Spectrum: mmWave-sub6 aggregation, sub-6 carrier aggregation (FDD-TDD, FDD-FDD, TDD-TDD), FDD-TDD support for uplink-CA, Dynamic Spectrum Sharing (DSS)
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https://www.qualcomm.com/content/dam/qcomm-martech/dm-assets/documents/prod_brief_qcom_x65.pdf
It is fully 3GPP Release 16 compatible as well which means that it can support any commercially-available 5G band (but may require a firmware update so I wouldn't bet on OnePlus adding bands beyond what their sales info states).
If you aren't gaming (there are massive advances in the 8 Gen 2 in this regard) and you are okay with the possibility of having to charge your phone each day (or more than once a day when using 5G heavily), it's definitely worth considering.
EDIT: Actually, it's using the 8 PLUS Gen 1... I have no qualms recommending a device using that chip to anyone who doesn't care about what the X70 modem adds (not much) or who doesn't want the absolute best performance and is willing to pay for it.
Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1 vs Snapdragon 8 Gen 2: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1 against Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and...
nanoreview.net

horsecharles said:
Don't see XDA dedicated forum for it.
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Actually there's the one:
OnePlus 11R (Ace 2)
The OnePlus 11R (Ace 2) is a 6.74" device, with a 120Hz 1240x2772 AMOLED display. It's powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1, which is paired with either 256/12GB, 256/16GB or 512/16GB of internal storage and RAM. It features a 50/8/2MP main camera setup, with a 16MP selfie camera. The...
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