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[Q] XtremeGuard on XPLAY

So around more than a month ago I ordered one piece of XtremeGuard screen protector off eBay from the official retailer. I just really wanted to give it a try even knowing that the Xperia Play already comes with a shatter-proof film fitted on it. My order didn't arrive within the 20-day period so I requested a refund. They refunded my $4 and to my surprise, the item came this afternoon after more than a month since it was ordered.
Now I'm really thinking twice...
So here are my questions:
1. when installing the XtremeGuard screen protector, do I have to remove first the shatter-proof sheet already fitted on the Play's screen?
2. anyone got a video for the installation of XtremeGuard? I very well understand and speak English but then their instruction material is kinda vague. And knowing that the installation involves water and soap, I think this procedure should be taken seriously since it may damage internal circuitries of the phone. So a video of the installation should really help!
Thanks everyone! Will be waiting for your replies!

Screenguards are generally of varying quality. I haven't heard of that particular brand. However, most screen guards are applied in one of two methods:
1) Sticky/Sticker application. The screenguard has a side with a glue applied. You carefully apply it and hope for the best.
2) AdhesionCling with soap/water/alcohol. Basically you strip off the old guards if you have one, clean the screen, then apply a _very thin_ layer of this soap/water/isopropyl-alcohol solution to the screen. You then apply their clingwrap style of screen guard starting from the top and slowly slide it into place, trying to avoid as many bubbles as possible. You then use a credit card or a supplied squeegee tool to try and squeeze out the bubbles while the liquid is still there. If you are lucky and get them all out, let it dry for 4~12 hours. Then it should be stuck there pretty good until something randomly peels the corner.
With all screenguards there are pros and cons.
Pros:
Less likely to scratch screen. Slight bit more impact resistance against breaking your screen. Some provide anti-glare or even tilt-angle shading for privacy (prevents shoulder surfing, but lowers visible angles).
Cons: Slight to moderate less responsiveness and accuracy from the digitizer (thing that recognizes your fingers). Depending on the material and formulation, you may also have a negative tactile response (gummy or sticky, compared to the bare glass). Buildup of gunk around edges of screenguard (this is particularly prevalent on the whole-device type covers, or ones that aren't touching all the way to the bezels).
I can't prescribe an exact way of doing it, but look for some of the YouTube videos on how to apply the ZAGG screen protectors. They apply with the soap/water/alcohol solutions, so it may be close enough to your type to be similar visual instruction.

whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!

narflynn619 said:
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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Any screen protector will do that. Some do it worse than others. Some do it so slightly that you don't notice it (or you just become adjusted to it over time).

By far my favorite screen protectors are the anti-glares. They don't have that sticky feeling that the BodyGuardz or Zagg ones do, and the viewing angle is butchered. After this anit-glare wears off I will finally also remove the stock one that comes on it. My touch response is very wonky sometimes.

Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!

Cubsfan3493 said:
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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why what happened?

Privacy Screen Protector Review - Restrict viewing of phone screen from the side!

So if you guys are wondering what a privacy screen protector is, its basically one in which restricts viewing of the phone screen, so basically if anyone is standing or sitting next to you whilst you were on your phone, and they had a look at your screen, then all they would see is a black screen
So the one I ordered really cheap was this
It arrived pretty promptly and applied it the standard method, clean screen, use a credit card and slowly apply pressure as your placing the screen protector to ensure no air bubbles
What do I think? Well the protector is relatively thick and scratch resistant which means I have extra comfort in knowing its safer from drops etc. The screen protector is a fairly good size, easily covers the screen. It does its job perfectly, from side views, the screen can't be seen whatsoever
Disadvantages - I'm used to having my phone lying on the desk next to me, and so if I want to quickly see any notifications, I actually have to pick up the phone and bring it face to face with me, instead of usually just glancing across at it
2) It does reduce brightness so you need to bump it up a little, however the screen protector is described as having 99% UV protection and i've tested it outdoors and I could see the screen okay
Overall I'd recommend this, its cheap, you can't go wrong with the thick protection and the privacy factor is another bonus!

Have you tried with polaroid glasses on too?

Bright.Light said:
Have you tried with polaroid glasses on too?
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I'll get back to you, just about to go on holiday with the camera so I'll report back what its like under completely bright conditions with sunglasses

Installing the SGFresh InvisShield - LOCA in speakers

I'd like to warn some about damage done to my phone during the installation of the SGFresh InvisShield. My phone was permanently damaged during installation. LOCA leaked into the speaker grills and damaged the microphone. It works but is a noticeably muffled. Also, either alcohol used for clean up or the LOCA messed up the finish on the back of the phone. It's kind of matte and lost some luster.
Here's what happened:
I followed the installation instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the phone and I ended up with several bubbles. So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
Edit: If you decide to purchase this screen protector, wpy's suggestion to cover the speakers with tape is a very good idea.

benpage said:
I highly recommend that people avoid this product. I followed the instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the place and I ended up with several bubbles.
So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).

jonstrong said:
When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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I really appreciate the thoughtful response, but I won't be giving this product a second chance. It nearly ruined my microphone. I spent the last hour letting rubbing alcohol soak in the bottom speaker and then blowing it out with canned air. People can sort of hear me now. I'm going to clean it a few more times and hope for the best.

I did 2 installs of the sgfresh invisShield. First one i installed it misaligned with the front facing camera and had a glare when using the front facing camera so i did a fresh install with a 2nd glass panelA. Second install went well and i am satisfied with their product, I too was very concerned with the loca flowing inside the front speakers so before both install i taped the front speaker with clear 3m tape. taped just to the very edge of the speaker and it prevented the loca to flow inside the speakers. The loca does stings when in contact with skin and face so be carefull. Excess loca will leak on the sides so i place the phone on a few sheets of paper table napkins to collect the excess loca as it flows out of the sides then I cured each end for 20 seconeds then cleaned the phone sides with wipes and alcohol. after cleaning i cure again for a couple of minutes. Also i used maybe 1 + 1/4 of the provided loca my reasoning was a bit more is better than it not reaching the edges of the glass. Also as a tip to removed the air bubbles on the edges lift gently pass the bubble then apply a bit of pressure when pressing down so that the bubble will be pushed out. it seem if you do it too gently the bubble just stays in place. Hope this help. i am satisfied with the product.

I love my invisishield. Just followed the video instructions.
No loca in speakers.
Bubbles were removed easily during installation by using the method described.
Sorry to hear you had so many challenges

No problem here, installation went fine on the first try.

Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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luigidk said:
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.

That sucks that the LOCA leaked all over the speakers. Mine did not go into the speakers until I tried fixing a bubble. Even then I covered it up with a dust removal sticker and cured it and then cleaned it with some alcohol and a toothbrush (did not pour alcohol on to the speaker. Just on the toothbrush and then lightly brushed). Product is great though!

jonstrong said:
Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?

luigidk said:
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
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My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.

benpage said:
I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
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All the info here is already in the original thread and also in the installation manual videos on youtube.
EDIT: looks like your thread was moved to the original thread.

I've done Whitestone loca and just ordered the sgfreshidea as Whitestones warranty is a joke. The kit I got from white stone had stickers to cover speaker grills and sponges to absorb any run off on the edges.. I'm not sure what sgfreshidea kit comes with as I have not received it yet. But to anyone else. Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.

letrain02 said:
Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
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Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.

butterbeanmash said:
Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
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The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.

How i fixed my phone from the same problem.
So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!

mikepopo99 said:
So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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letrain02 said:
The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
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You use masking tape or the usual Scotch tape (probably any normal consumer level tape would work). I'm surprised no one thought of covering up the speakers for the install.

$45 on Amazon
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?

mikepopo99 said:
Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
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Tried em both. No LOCA leakage whatsoever. Plus u get tabs to cover the grills as a precaution. The kit makes installation a breeze. The only thing u need to do is properly clean the screen. With SG the protector doesn't come with protective film. So u have to clean that also. Making the chance of getting particles on the screen and thus wrecking the install way higher and alot more stressful. With the WStone Once put on. U don't even know it's there. Clear and fingerprint resistant like the phone screen. Whitestone is the one to get.
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Anyone grab any screen protectors yet?

I'd really hate having to spend $50 dollars on a new Whitestone protector. I've seen some cheaper alternatives on Alibaba for the Note 10 and S10 series, but nothing for the S20 Ultra. Any alternative suggestions other than leave the default film protector for now?

So I used to use the Whitestone Dome on all my phones but I found out that assurion has a screen only replacement for phones, I paid a deductible of $35 for my S10+ and someone came to my house and fixed my phone. Since this day, I stopped buying screen protector
Note. I have no idea if the Ultra will have the same screen replacement program, I assume it does.

I have been using whitestone since the S8+.
Rarely do I get a perfect install, but today I got pretty close on my S10 ultra. Bubble free, some small specs of dust that you don't see unless on an all-white screen.
It was an easier install this time due to the curved edges being reduced to much less of a curve.

Samzebian said:
I have been using whitestone since the S8+.
Rarely do I get a perfect install, but today I got pretty close on my S10 ultra. Bubble free, some small specs of dust that you don't see unless on an all-white screen.
It was an easier install this time due to the curved edges being reduced to much less of a curve.
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How is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner performing after the install?

teamfresno said:
How is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner performing after the install?
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I just found out about the whitestone and this was my first time using one. I learned the hard way that a perfectly level surface is not a suggestion. So first install was an utter fail. I used the backup screen and it went ok, had to wait for like 5 minutes for the liquid to fully spread. i assume this was from the failed first attempt. Once it fully spread, i moved the screen around to get it perfectly placed so that i couldn't see any air pockets underneath the corners. then i used the UV light to cure it and everything looks great now.
To answer your question, the fingerprint reader has worked flawless for me. Since i immediately put on the protector, i didnt get to use the finger print reader much before. So its hard to compare, but there is minimal delay for me for it reading the finger print. Honestly 90% of the time the camera picks up my face and unlocks before i have the chance to use the finger print.

bwachtel said:
I just found out about the whitestone and this was my first time using one. I learned the hard way that a perfectly level surface is not a suggestion. So first install was an utter fail. I used the backup screen and it went ok, had to wait for like 5 minutes for the liquid to fully spread. i assume this was from the failed first attempt. Once it fully spread, i moved the screen around to get it perfectly placed so that i couldn't see any air pockets underneath the corners. then i used the UV light to cure it and everything looks great now.
To answer your question, the fingerprint reader has worked flawless for me. Since i immediately put on the protector, i didnt get to use the finger print reader much before. So its hard to compare, but there is minimal delay for me for it reading the finger print. Honestly 90% of the time the camera picks up my face and unlocks before i have the chance to use the finger print.
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I had the same issues and since I never used a glass and yet alone a wet application screen protector I botched the first one. The adhesive didn't roll down the then little circle and I accidentally tilted it to the right. Everything went wrong. Cleaned it went for the 2nd one and I was super careful after letting the adhesive out. It was still a bit to the side but I was able to slightly tilt it and center the drop. Once I pulled the tab it spread as evenly as it could have but I had a slight air bubble on the top left. I waited about 2min but it wasn't moving so I applied slight pressure from right to left to spread it a bit and it ended up spreading evenly after.
Idk if I ****ed it up again but we will see if it holds. It feels and looks amazing and I'm glad to get rid of the oem film as that **** scratches by breathing on it.

elracing21 said:
I had the same issues and since I never used a glass and yet alone a wet application screen protector I botched the first one. The adhesive didn't roll down the then little circle and I accidentally tilted it to the right. Everything went wrong. Cleaned it went for the 2nd one and I was super careful after letting the adhesive out. It was still a bit to the side but I was able to slightly tilt it and center the drop. Once I pulled the tab it spread as evenly as it could have but I had a slight air bubble on the top left. I waited about 2min but it wasn't moving so I applied slight pressure from right to left to spread it a bit and it ended up spreading evenly after.
Idk if I ****ed it up again but we will see if it holds. It feels and looks amazing and I'm glad to get rid of the oem film as that **** scratches by breathing on it.
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My OEM protector had nicks and scratches out of the box...
Pretty much same scenario you described. Put mine on Tuesday night and no issues so far. I think we will be fine so long as you had no air bubbles before the curing.

I Noticed a tiny delay when using the screen protector. I did re-enroll my fingers, but it was slightly faster for me with the oem protector. (which offers only scratch protection)

Do you guys believe the S20 Series of device would be fine with non loca screenprotectors? those available for practically all other flat screen devices? since the screen isn't curved that extreme anymore.

Seems a tad faster than the Note 10+ with the Domeglass protector.
Something changed with these protectors over the last year. I used to get perfect installations every time. Last 4 had bubbles even though I follow the instructions to the letter. These will also crack VERY easily. Think this may be my last DG..

Mike02z said:
Seems a tad faster than the Note 10+ with the Domeglass protector.
Something changed with these protectors over the last year. I used to get perfect installations every time. Last 4 had bubbles even though I follow the instructions to the letter. These will also crack VERY easily. Think this may be my last DG..
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Don't they have lifetime warranty

Whitestone and tamoria both an epic FAIL
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S20 ultra comes with a screen protector pre installed.
Why would you put another on?

socalstagetech said:
S20 ultra comes with a screen protector pre installed.
Why would you put another on?
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use it for a couple of month and you know why....

"New" and perfect Note 10+ "refurb" - phone perfect but is there any way to test if the factory screen skin is installed?

I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris

The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.

s1rrah said:
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
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Most likely, Being a refurb with flawless screen, it probably had it's screen replaced and replacement screens don't ship with that Samsung factory screen protector on them. Most likely no screen protector in place

blackhawk said:
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....

s1rrah said:
Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!

blackhawk said:
Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
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Thanks for the detailed tips, friend. Much appreciated. But exactly what screen protector are you referring to? The originally mentioned "Q Shield" variant? Or the one I mentioned already ordering, which is the Apiker random find off of Amazon.
If you're referring to a specific brand/model of protector, be it of the "Q Shield" sort or otherwise? Please send me a link if your able to do so.
As it turns out? The randomly ordered Apiker kit I bought from Amazon based solely on user reviews alone, has turned out to be pretty okay. As with many such products, especially those for phones with curved edges, there really is value in going over some install videos and what not but the first application turned out pretty damn good.
The kit came with 4 of everything so for the money and the fact that 2nd and further applications would of course be more intuitive, makes it a decent value.
Also, the Apiker screen kit I bought is not tempered glass but some other sort of material but still has a decent feel overall. The main thing I like is the thumb sensor is still every bit as sensitive/responsive as it was when using the naked, glass screen.
But send me some info on the kit you were referring to that uses what you called "fluid" ... I'll get one of those too lol!
And yeah, mang. Note10+ FTW! Mine was stolen about a week ago .. only time I've ever lost it ... but it wasn't 20 minutes before I'd ordered a new "refurb" off Ebay which I'm currently using now.
I tend to always buy whatever the flagship Sammy was 3 or so years ago and always end up saving tons of money and being very happy with whatever that ends up being. I bought a 1 day temp new Galaxy A12 at the local ATT shop to use till the Note10+ replacement came in and the Note10+ processing speed is WAY better than the A12, which frankly was just a sluggish dog in comparison.
Thanks again for the info..

"IQ Shield"