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So around more than a month ago I ordered one piece of XtremeGuard screen protector off eBay from the official retailer. I just really wanted to give it a try even knowing that the Xperia Play already comes with a shatter-proof film fitted on it. My order didn't arrive within the 20-day period so I requested a refund. They refunded my $4 and to my surprise, the item came this afternoon after more than a month since it was ordered.
Now I'm really thinking twice...
So here are my questions:
1. when installing the XtremeGuard screen protector, do I have to remove first the shatter-proof sheet already fitted on the Play's screen?
2. anyone got a video for the installation of XtremeGuard? I very well understand and speak English but then their instruction material is kinda vague. And knowing that the installation involves water and soap, I think this procedure should be taken seriously since it may damage internal circuitries of the phone. So a video of the installation should really help!
Thanks everyone! Will be waiting for your replies!
Screenguards are generally of varying quality. I haven't heard of that particular brand. However, most screen guards are applied in one of two methods:
1) Sticky/Sticker application. The screenguard has a side with a glue applied. You carefully apply it and hope for the best.
2) AdhesionCling with soap/water/alcohol. Basically you strip off the old guards if you have one, clean the screen, then apply a _very thin_ layer of this soap/water/isopropyl-alcohol solution to the screen. You then apply their clingwrap style of screen guard starting from the top and slowly slide it into place, trying to avoid as many bubbles as possible. You then use a credit card or a supplied squeegee tool to try and squeeze out the bubbles while the liquid is still there. If you are lucky and get them all out, let it dry for 4~12 hours. Then it should be stuck there pretty good until something randomly peels the corner.
With all screenguards there are pros and cons.
Pros:
Less likely to scratch screen. Slight bit more impact resistance against breaking your screen. Some provide anti-glare or even tilt-angle shading for privacy (prevents shoulder surfing, but lowers visible angles).
Cons: Slight to moderate less responsiveness and accuracy from the digitizer (thing that recognizes your fingers). Depending on the material and formulation, you may also have a negative tactile response (gummy or sticky, compared to the bare glass). Buildup of gunk around edges of screenguard (this is particularly prevalent on the whole-device type covers, or ones that aren't touching all the way to the bezels).
I can't prescribe an exact way of doing it, but look for some of the YouTube videos on how to apply the ZAGG screen protectors. They apply with the soap/water/alcohol solutions, so it may be close enough to your type to be similar visual instruction.
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
narflynn619 said:
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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Any screen protector will do that. Some do it worse than others. Some do it so slightly that you don't notice it (or you just become adjusted to it over time).
By far my favorite screen protectors are the anti-glares. They don't have that sticky feeling that the BodyGuardz or Zagg ones do, and the viewing angle is butchered. After this anit-glare wears off I will finally also remove the stock one that comes on it. My touch response is very wonky sometimes.
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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why what happened?
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Since the day or so after the initial recall I decided for once in my life I'll throw caution to the wind and take the plunge of no case or screen protector on my phone, It made me a little sick to my stomach to peel off the screen protector and case and take off for a busy day of work and school with nothing protecting my phone from damage. I figured I'd see a plethora of scratches by the end of the day, and I was able to try this test out because of the recall and Samsung promising to take the phone back regardless of the condition. To my surprise, nothing, not a single scratch, day 2, same and so on.
Fast forward a few weeks, recall phone is traded - STILL IN PERFECT CONDITION, not a screen protector or case has touched it in weeks. Granted I still coddled it, but no different than I would any phone I've had, and I treated the phone like it had a Screen Protector and case on it. Threw it in my pocket, laid it on my desk at work, sat it in my center console in my truck etc. Not a single scratch or dent.
Trade the phone in on Sept 21st and got my new "Safe" Note7, decided that I finally felt comfortable with going "Naked" on my phone after the recall device and have since, so about another week with my "Safe" device and still not a single mark or scratch to be found. I'm actually in the process of getting a replacement for my replacement through Samsung, nothing major, just a lack of quality control on Samsung's part that I have an issue with with this replacement device and Samsung is giving me no hassle about it. I assume my phone suffered from the rush of trying to fix the recall ... but who knows.
Anyways, I will continue going "naked" on this phone, I have no reason not to. And a screen protector just destroys the feeling of this beautiful phones feel and functionality, and really so does a case. i own the LED Wallet case which I love and plan to use here and there, and I probably own around 20 other various cases that I'm sure I will use for fun here and there, But for the most part I've felt the "Naked" feeling and there's no going back lol.
Point of this thread is, I'm not sure how people that are complaining about this phone being "easily scratched" are treating their phones, or if they maybe got defective glass or something. I haven't had a single problem, and when i say I'm anal about my phones it's an understatement, and I feel 100% confident in using this phone protection-free on a daily basis. Obviously you still have to take care of this phone and be extremely careful .... it's made of glass after all. And I cant endorse its drop capabilities lol, That i have no idea of, and hope i never do. But for anyone wondering how this phone holds up with no protection and a pretty active daily use ... so far with my Note7 ... perfectly fine, still looks like the day I opened it.
What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
This is an interesting test to run - i still have my original one, and the replacement, because Samsung decided the closest drop-off location for me is about 3.5-4 hours away without traffic... I'll be waiting until they call and give me another method to return it. Think I might carry it around and see how it holds up... would be an interesting test, as I'm pretty hard on my devices.
really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
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The metal bezel on the left hand side of the phone is sharp, like almost razor-blade sharp. You cant see if from looking at it, but you can scrap your hand off it and it feels sharp and uncomfortable to hold. and the corners of the phone where the back glass meet the metal is also sharp on all 4 corners, the right side of the phone is smooth as silk though. very weird, but almost seems like it was clued together fast and off centered and shipped out to meet demand. $900 for a phone i HAS to be as perfect as possible, but this one wasn't forgivable.
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really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
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Yep, just be careful, life happens and that's not up to you, but if you're careful and conscious of your phone on you you should be alright, my wife is horrible about that, I drive a beefed up semi-lifted truck and EVERY time she goes anywhere with me, she places her phone on her lap and then hops out of my truck forgetting the phone was sitting on her lap. Drives me nuts. Her Note 4 has seen some shxt in its day, but still looks good and functions perfect, she wants to upgrade to a Note 7 which i hope she does, but shes gonna have to start paying more attention, because one of those falls out of my truck is going to destroy a Note 7 lol. Clumsiness for the most part can be prevented, just being aware, my phone is the most expensive thing I carry on me, so I always make sure its protected, and to be honest I've seen people smash phones wrapped in tempered glass screen protectors and otter-boxes, stuff happens, but I do my best to avoid it.
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I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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Oh this phone naked is like holding a wet bar of soap, its horribly slippery, But I guess that's the price you pay for a beautiful glass device lol I enjoy the way the glass looks and feels, but I do fear the slipperiness of it, so for me again anytime I pull mine out of my pocket I always ensure my grip is on point, anytime I feel the need to "whip" my phone out really fast I take a breath and realize that i don't actually need to lol, and when I hold the phone, i comfortably hold it with my pinkie finger under it so the phone rests on my finger. Bottom line ... take care of your stuff and be mindful and you should be alright, people treat phones like crap then complain that it cant take a beating ... drives me nuts ... its glass. Treat it like a $900 piece of glass lol.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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I got the Skinomi clear skin and its been great so far. After you attach it give it a day to settle onto the phone because at first it doesn't look good but after a few hours I noticed it looked a lot better and the next day it looked perfect. The only problem I had was getting the sides to stick. I even used a blow dryer and I just couldn't get them to stay down but I ended up using the top burners on my stove to heat the edges up and then they stuck and they haven't come up since. The s-pen still slides smooth as well with the white inserts. It does have a bit of a texture which I could see would annoy some people but it doesn't really bother me.
What material are your pockets made out of, sandpaper? My original Note 7 (recall replacement arrives today) has never seen a case or screen protector and is completely unscathed. I have not even been as gentle as you described. So weird.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see.
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I certainly believe your report of your observations and recollections, but your experience differs sharply from my own. I've been using unprotected Note 7s heavily (pre- and post-recall) for about a month, and I've acquired no scratches whatsoever.
When I check for scratches, I always use direct sunlight or a comparably bright source, and I rotate the phone through a range of angles in order to see any subtle defects. It sounds like that's not something you've been doing routinely, but rather something that just recently happened by chance. If that's the case, you may not really know when your scratches arose (or even whether your previous devices might have had similar scratches), which may complicate the diagnosis of how they occurred.
I trust we agree that the careful treatment you described could not have scratched even ordinary glass, let alone Gorilla Glass 5. So there are several possibilities. Perhaps the phone scraped against something sharp (even while it was in your pocket) without your noticing. Perhaps the process of applying or removing the case or screen protector scratched it somehow. Perhaps it came with subtle, hard-to-notice scratches already on it. Or could it even be that the phone isn't scratched, but rather has some sort of residue that rubbed off on it? (Have you tried washing it off with a wet paper towel and substantial pressure?)
Again, I trust your observations, but I'm curious as to how your scratches arose, and how your experience diverged from my own. I appreciate your taking the time to update everyone on your situation. And regardless of how the scratches happened, I'm glad you're getting a replacement.
Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
When i say im careful, I'm careful... I got the cold sweats when i saw the scratches lol I've coddled thus phone with mittens since i got it, like i said I lay it on tbings and then move that whenever I set my phobe on my desk for no otger reason but to avoid sliding my phone on any surfaces ... pocket always empty and clean, I don't play in the dirt or go to the beach, pockets feel like normal clean pockets lol. I mean people can make excuses for tge glass, he'll i did too when i saw the initial scratch posts, even started a thread praising the scratch resistance ... I seriously don't know how much more careful you can be with a phone as i have been with this one and it still scuffed. I'll grab some pictures with the wife's phone and post them.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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You just wanted to use the fancy s-pen features and that drawing was your excuse. ;P
And I don't blame you :laugh:
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Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
When i say im careful, I'm careful...
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I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
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Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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No case or screen protectors since I got this phone last Sunday (Oct 25th) I didn't recall any scratches on my recalled unit so I didn't bother with protecting the replacement. But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone, how they happened? I don't know ... but they did .... The glass just seems soft and easily scratch-able. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is. And agreed, I've seen scratches come up from case use on my phones before so that is always a concern, but I didn't use a case on this phone, and I never sat the phone down on a hard surface, and never in a pocket with anything else, and the weird isolated scratched areas don't show signs of "pocket damage" ... they came from somewhere I get that, but wherever they came from, they happened with no effort or force.
Inspected my new phone that came in yesterday. Not a single scratch to be found in any light ... Screen protector should be in today so it'll get wrapped before I even use it and we'll try again ... I recommend to anyone who has a Note 7, wrap it up and keep it clean, this issue just may not be avoidable with everyday use.
Is GG5 on the back as well as the front? My rear is scratched only after 2 weeks replacement and general it wears a case. NOT impressed.
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But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone
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Well, the phone wasn't scratched by the skin of your hand, the cloth of your pocket, or the piece of paper you rested it on, so there must have been some other contact that you're unaware of. (I'll occasionally notice a small cut or bruise on my arm without recalling what contact was responsible. It happens.)
Regardless, thanks again for the update you posted, and good luck with your new Note 7. If my Note 7 ever suffers the slightest scratch, I will follow your example and post an update here too. So far, a month of heavy, unprotected use has not resulted in any visible imperfection.
I don't get why people are nitpicking this. I get this tone of "maybe you were careful but not careful enough". It sounds like we are discussing handling an egg.
The physics of it are simple and irrefutable, this thing will scratch, there is no way around it. And just because one hasn't scratched yet, or appears that way, doesn't mean it won't.
At this point, regardless of what anyone says or who wants to debate, it's safe to say yhe phone WILL scratch with normal, even careful use. I was one who thought "well the people with scratches must be abusing their phones" but as i type this on a scuffed, yet coddled Note7 I stand corrected. It doesn't affect my love for the phone but it should be noted that it WILL scratch easily regardless of how you treat it, i wish it didn't ... but it does. And I don't think it's batched based, pretty sure maybe even if you dont see any scratches there are probably some on your phone as I found by badically doing a microscopic forensic look at my phone the other day, the shinyness of thr glass seems to hide a lot of imperfections.
Hello all!
First time posting in a while, so forgive me if I'm a bit rusty. I just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ yesterday, and my amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector today, so I thought I'd write up a little review. Sorry for no pics, but I was busy installing and trying to keep things dust-free
I've used Whitestone in the past but was disappointed with both my Note 8 and 9 installs, primarily because of the LOCA spiderwebbing on the edges. I figured I'd give another brand a shot, so I went searching here and found the amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector. A quick trip over to Amazon, and $40 later (for a full kit including *2* protectors) and here we are!
PACKAGING: The box is nice - wider and flatter than the WS product. It's clean and simple, but professional looking. Plus their website and install video are well done also. Inside the outer box are three smaller boxes. The largest contains the plastic frame, screen protectors, and wipes (I think). The medium size box contains the UV light and the MicroUSB cable. It appears to be identical to the WS product, but I don't know this for a fact, so take that for what it's worth. The smallest box contains the LOCA (2 tubes), extra absorption pads, plastic pin, tabs to place over the speaker, a bubble level, and a weight. Everything you need comes in this kit, including plenty of wet and dry wipes, microfiber cloths, and dust removal stickers. On the packaging is a QR code to go to the install video.
PRODUCT: Everything seems to be on the same quality scale as the WS product, with a few minor changes - 1) there is no LOCA applicator "bridge", you have to aim and dribble the solution by hand, 2) the pin is different - there's no more tilting the entire phone to move the liquid into position - the pin is angled and sets the glass down at an angle, and 3) the "fingerprint" weight (more on this later). Otherwise, if you've done the WS before, this isn't significantly different.
INSTALLATION: **REMINDER** REMOVE the factory plastic screen protector and clean your screen THOROUGHLY before proceeding! I ALMOST forgot, which would have been a disaster! I watched the video twice and didn't see any mention of this, so amFilm, here's a tip for you Anyway, installation is straightforward -put the little feet on the bottom of the phone to bring it flush with the pins inside, make sure the screen is 100% clean, install the sticker over the speaker, apply the liquid (making sure to absorb any "splatter" before proceeding!), peel the protective film off the glass, place it, and pull the pin. Once the liquid starts to spread, put the weight where the fingerprint sensor is and let it settle and "ooze" for 3-ish minutes. (NOTE - it's hard to locate the fingerprint scanner, so you might want to mark the frame in advance with a Sharpie (another tip for amFilm - marking that plastic with some kind of raised bumps or hash marks might be a good idea, or maybe a film for on top of the glass that marks where to place it - just a thought). After that, it's bake-time under the UV light, then you're done.
RESULTS: I'm very impressed so far. The glass appears to be nice and clear, and I can't even see the little "spots" in the corners others mentioned. I lucked out this time and no dust specs at all. No bubbles, etc. the fingerprint scanner appears to be working fine, although I haven't re-registered anything. It DOES require a little extra "umph" to scan, but that's not a big deal. Part of that could be me getting used to an in-screen scanner. There was minimal over-oozing, and the pre-installed pads absorbed everything fine. Barely needed a wipedown afterward.
FITMENT: There appears to be no flaws in placement using the guide, or in the fitment of the glass. It sits flat, and lines up exactly where it should. The cutout for the front-facing camera is exactly where it should be, and it's not overly-exaggerated in size. The edges leave plenty of room for putting the phone in a case (I've tried 4 so far, all fit without touching the glass edge, so there's no worry about case push on the glue). The bottom edge is just a tad bit short, maybe a 1/16", but that could be allowing for larger cases (I don't use the big bulky ones, so IDK).
OVERALL ASSESSMENT: 4.5/5 Stars - Great product, especially for the price. I'll keep you posted on long-term wear & quality, but for now, I'd say it's a great deal versus the competition.
Thanks for the feedback, just got my note 10 plus and am trying to filter out the paid/promo reviews vs legit ones.
I may go this route with amfilm as well. i bought the tech matte clear case, so i hope it fits well within it without popping off.
hows your experience after putting it in a case?
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
entropism said:
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
joogle said:
Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
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The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
entropism said:
The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
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If you turn sensitivity on, does that resolve the fingerprint issue?
No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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The September update includes improved finger printer recognition.
Ok I decided to go ahead and buy the amfilm note 10 plus screen protector from Amazon. Watched their video and then another on Youtube like twice. I think I got the install right, the whole weight placing situation is a guesstimate, if they are reading this thread - put something on the tray to take the guessing out of the process, like a stick with a weight so it stays in one spot.
Also, the glue stick - be careful when lifting it to make sure no drop falls out - i didnt put the black cap back on - saw an extra few big drops fall on my desk - no biggie - but if it was on the screen would have been a hassle.
then the UV light shuts off at 45 seconds - their last instruction is to keep it lit for 60 seconds - they should probably adjust it - again not a big issue.
in terms of quality of the screen protector - looks good - its a thin piece of glass - hopefully it protects the screen. the fingerprint sensor - its been a hit/miss kind of. i added my same thumb print twice, sometimes it has to read directly in the middle of the thumb, othertimes i feel like i have to press harder. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor before the screen protector so don't know if its just the way it is.
I would rate this like 3.5 / 5 -- i think tempered glass is solid, the fingerprint sensor can be annoying, its not really that smooth like if you slightly put your finger/thumb on it that it will open. like literally it won't take it on first try, on second or third try it will take - that is the most annoying part about it.
the install process was decent, as long as you watch the videos first - its straight forward.
price wise its sucky - i wish they would sell this for $20 - even with just one screen protector. $40 is steep, replacement protectors they can probably price between $7 to $10 i feel.
By the way this is the same UV type device used to cure fingernail paint - lol - your household may already have one.
I don't have the Whitestone to compare to. But I can say man the Samsung film screen protector is solid, used it for few days, even when taking it off it was on perfectly. I kind of miss it but i think tempered glass will offer more protection on a fall.
Pictures, please.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKHMK9J/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_2oX0DbYMHRS0A
I've installed two of these protectors on a note 10 + and a note 10. I did have the issue with the frame cracking with the note 10+ but the company has since fixed that issue.
I've used WDG for a few years now and this one has exceeded my expectations and is better than Whitestone.
The installation is simple and comes with a weighted cylinder that's used when you're curing the glass with the UV light. I've had zero issues with the finger scanner as well as my daughter on her note 10. I actually put the cylinder on while the glue was spreading. I can actually see a circle where the finger print scanner is at and I think this is a recipe for success. I've installed these just after release and they still look brand new. Scanner works great! I can provide forage if anyone is interested. The price is great for getting two in the box. I highly recommend!
Hi All,
I need some info from people who have been using the fold for quite some time now.
I just got the fold 2 and that is my first folding phone.
I got to be honest: I've been using it unfolded and I've been keeping it unfolded most of the time because im afraid that keeping it close would increase the crease.
So, you that you have used this type of folding phones for many months, could you give me some suggestions? Do you keep it unfolded when not in use/charging or you just keep it folded when not using it?
For the latter: no issues with the crease.. have you notice any increase of the crease?
Thanks
I've had the Galaxy fold for 4 months now and I do fold/unfold quite a lot every day and I can tell you that the crease has remained identical. Don't read too much into the YouTube reviewer hype, the screen is plastic and it won't crease like folded leather does with stretch mark. What I did notice tho is that you'll get lots of microscratches, but unless you're pointing your screen towards a light bulb, you can't see them as they're very superficial. That's with the first gen fold tho, so the second one might be better in that regard. And I treat the phone like a baby with utmost care.
I tend to agree with the above response. +1.
I have the og Fold now since january and sleep every night with it open. Actually, I keep it open at all times at the house and only close it when I'm "on the road." I'm sure thats overkill. No issues since day one and dont really know why I'm in that habit of keeping it open at the house. lol.
As far as the tiny scratches, thats from wiping down too hard with a dirty micro fiber. Ive seen this before on other device's screens, and in a great example, Oakley sunglasses. Those cheap a*s plastic lenses get scratched just looking thru them.
The KEY would be to only use a completely clean and dry microfiber cloth and apply literally hardly any pressure making time to constantly shake the rag and use different parts of it as you "brush" the screen. RIDICULOUS, I know, but the ONLY way to keep those tiny scratches at bay.
And hes right, They can only be noticed when the screen is OFF and at a crazy angle with reading glasses on...lol.. Really a non-issue, if you ask me.
Iv had fold first gen since 4th Feb and it still ok no scratches nothing at all
I have had the Fold for nearly a year. I keep it closed most of the time but open it several times a day, the crease is actually the same as it was on day 1 as far as I can see. Neither screen has got any blemishes/ scratches, I am generally pretty careful about it to the point that if I am working in a dirty/ dusty environment I use my Pixel instead. At all other times, I use the Fold.
Some feedback
Been using my Fold for almost 1 year (I have the 5G variant) and looks the same as first day. The hinge mechanism maybe a bit less firm than when I bought it but fully functional and very reliable. The only thing I have never manged to find is a GOOD screen protector. I always use one not to scratch the screens' delicate surface and I went through many and they all suck.. scratch easily, start peeling and distort the image and produce streaks at pixel level.. I've tried like, 10. Other than that, best phone I've ever owned and will not upgrade to the Fold 2 because its too incremental. Will wait for the Fold 3 and see if there are truly major changes, namely the device being thinner and the screen really more resistant.
Still all stock under Android 10 and want to root it but not sure whats the best way to do it or if I can even get TWRP on my model. Worrying about screwing it up, nut really would love to root it.
All in all, awesome phone!
VeEuzUKY said:
Some feedback
Been using my Fold for almost 1 year (I have the 5G variant) and looks the same as first day. The hinge mechanism maybe a bit less firm than when I bought it but fully functional and very reliable. The only thing I have never manged to find is a GOOD screen protector. I always use one not to scratch the screens' delicate surface and I went through many and they all suck.. scratch easily, start peeling and distort the image and produce streaks at pixel level.. I've tried like, 10. Other than that, best phone I've ever owned and will not upgrade to the Fold 2 because its too incremental. Will wait for the Fold 3 and see if there are truly major changes, namely the device being thinner and the screen really more resistant.
Still all stock under Android 10 and want to root it but not sure whats the best way to do it or if I can even get TWRP on my model. Worrying about screwing it up, nut really would love to root it.
All in all, awesome phone!
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153860911539 try thus link i bought it works good easy to peel off aswel
liggerz87 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153860911539 try thus link i bought it works good easy to peel off aswel
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Thanks a lot for the tip, I'll give it a try
I had to take it off had it for a while I suggest getting the 2 pack as was bit difficult to get on only took it off as had a black spot a smoke nearly burnt it lol screen was fine under neath
I've had the Fold since Oct 27, 2019. I constantly close and open it all day. I was also experiencing tiny scratches on the inside screen for no reason and decided to start using a screen protector for about ten months. But the crease did not increase one bit.
About two weeks ago I using dex to watch a movie one morning and the hdmi cable hit my inner screen and created dead pixels. I took it to a samsung repair center and they replaced it for free, and the hinge, along with a factor installed screen protector that wasn't originally there. It's like having a new phone! But I would definitely recommend closing it once you set the phone down.
murdok83 said:
Hi All,
I need some info from people who have been using the fold for quite some time now.
I just got the fold 2 and that is my first folding phone.
I got to be honest: I've been using it unfolded and I've been keeping it unfolded most of the time because im afraid that keeping it close would increase the crease.
So, you that you have used this type of folding phones for many months, could you give me some suggestions? Do you keep it unfolded when not in use/charging or you just keep it folded when not using it?
For the latter: no issues with the crease.. have you notice any increase of the crease?
Thanks
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Do you also put plastic covers on your couches and leave the paper floor mats when you get your car washed? Just use the damn device you paid money for.
Hey,
I have been a Note fan since the very beginning and a foldable with spen support has been a device of my dreams. When the Fold 3 was released I decided to go for it and give my Note 20 Ultra a break. The fold isn't perfect especially with such a small battery but as an exynos user the battery has always been a thing to compromise in my region. But,
The reports about the screen being so fragile and getting cracked in concerning numbers have halted me from getting this expensive piece of tech. I am aware of the cracking issues with the earlier folds but the reports about this third generation looks really concerning.
Are the cases that high? or is it just the usual (defective patch) in any product?
Think of it this way, no one will post about how their screen is fine and not cracked, but people will be inclined to post when their screen is shattered and broken. If every person with a screen that wasn't cracked would post theirs, it would far surpass the cracked screen numbers. I have had mine since 22nd of October and I have not had one issue, not one cracked screen. I recommend it as it's the best phone 2021 could bring.
Had mine since the early pre-order time. No screen crack or break, but I have a Spigen hard case on it. I've dropped it a few times, but have been uber lucky it wasn't anything that cause damage. One has to look at the cause of the damage before assuming it's a defect of the product.
Not sure what reports you have read, but I've yet to see an influx of cracked screens from general everyday use. Plus, many of use early birds have coverage for damage.
No issues here.
I have to wonder though, if the phone was left in a car overnight with below zero temps and then unfolded cold. What would happen? Has anyone been brave enough to try? ;-)
I have had mine since shortly after release and I use it... and I mean USE it...
I use the outer screen for many quick things, but I spent over 75% of my time opening and using the inner screen. I have a Fold SPen and use it constantly and I am STILL on the original factory inner screen protector and have ZERO issues with any bubbling, cracking or anything else on the device screen or the protector.
Just take some care of your device and it will take care of you.
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
ghassan haddad said:
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
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My case has a hinge cover, but many have issue with the phone not lying flat.
ghassan haddad said:
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
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There are some cars that specifically cover the hinge I believe. I think Samsung even has their own. But they seem so bulky and awkward.
NONE of the cases that I have seen or used or played with have a Hinge Cover that will protect from Dust/Water intrusion. Just not going to happen. Sorry mate.
I've had my Fold 3 since a couple of days before release day and use the inner screen 99.99% of the time, all day long. No issues here. I clean the dust and fingerprints (which you can barely see and don't cause the rainbow effect) with a reusable screen cloth from Amazon with a koala on it - bought it for my car stereo screen, but there are a ton in the pack, so I use them for different things.
Not only the operation of the phone in cold weather exasperating this issue but maybe also a combination of pressing on the screen with a finger to close the phone..
Plasticisers are a limited lifespan. They are what makes plastics flexible. As they fail, cracking is the result. With a close to a near 180° the engineering is less than brilliant. Made with a very finite lifespan in mind.
The Fold series is an even more niche market than the Notes. Like an inept gambler Samsung don't know when to run away. By shoving the prototype Fold down the throats of its loyal Note customer base Samsung deserves what they get... idiots.
sorry, blackhawk.. do you have one of these?? best phone ever lol.
if the stock protector fail, replacements are easy
Ya been a Note User since the first one .. after going Fold 3 I can never go back... love the screen .. really better battery, cameras, I'd like a micro SD slot again and for thr s pen to go into the phone and it would be perfect...
As for the screen cracking mine has not but the built in screen protector has peeled up so I peeled off ... all good so far.. but if you get this phone usually it's on a 24 month contract then you swap phones to 2 gens later. Also I'd assume everyone would get the insurance for the screen replacement etc... so if that's done you just send it in for any screen issues .
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sorry, blackhawk.. do you have one of these?? best phone ever lol.
if the stock protector fail, replacements are easy
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No, blackhawk just likes bagging it as far as I can tell.
Best. Phone. Ever. For me, anyway.
[email protected] said:
Ya been a Note User since the first one .. after going Fold 3 I can never go back... love the screen .. really better battery, cameras, I'd like a micro SD slot again and for thr s pen to go into the phone and it would be perfect...
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I loved the note, from the very first, and my note 12 pro tablet. Now that I'm retired and don't need the spen I love the fold. It's like carrying a tablet in your pocket everywhere.
I can't wait until they actually get the whole 'Z' folding thing working, to triple the size
What I find funny is all the people bagging the idea of the Fold, alongside all the companies trying to make one themselves. I'm pretty sure Apple will sell one in five years, well behind the curve as usual while claiming to be ahead as usual.
Ha ha yes exactly apple will bring a foldable out when samsung goes to the next design for foldable.. I also like that sliding screen they might out put out ... I'd rather the than the folding but for now beggars can't be choosers lol
it's interesting that no one here had a bad experience while a similar thread on reddit is full of (cracked) displays
ghassan haddad said:
it's interesting that no one here had a bad experience while a similar thread on reddit is full of (cracked) displays
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Link? (or it didn't happen )