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UPDATE: BOOTLOADER IS UNLOCKED AND TABLET CAN BE ROOTED USING MAGISK v16.7!
Haven't seen any discussion on root yet for this tablet. I'm interested in picking one up, but would like to know if the bootloader is unlockable so that the tablet could have TWRP/custom ROMs installed on it at some point. Especially interested because of Treble.
Anybody have any ideas yet or is it still too early?
That is also interesting for me. I will never by a phone or tablet without the possibility of rooting. I currently owning the Tab S2 under Lineage OS 14.1 and I am pretty happy with the degree of freedom I have.
I hope the development with the Tab S4 will be more than with the Tab S3 (this was the reason why I never buyed one)
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That is also interesting for me. I will never by a phone or tablet without the possibility of rooting. I currently owning the Tab S2 under Lineage OS 14.1 and I am pretty happy with the degree of freedom I have.
I hope the development with the Tab S4 will be more than with the Tab S3 (this was the reason why I never buyed one)
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Sadly don't get your hopes up... SD's are notorious for being locked.
The S3 was Snapdragon and was unlocked as far as I'm aware. Either way, I have sent Samsung an e-mail requesting kernel source code for the Tab S4 since it apparently hasn't been done yet. Just waiting for a response.
With the Samsung devices I've had, no issue unlocking the bootloader. You have to use Odin or Heimdall to load a rom, and your warranty is voided (they've all had a 'knox bit' that gets burnt and is irreversible once burnt).
SD's notorious for being locked? Not in my experience. They are the most common chips to have aftermarket roms, thus the devices have to be unlockable. I'd put my money on a rom being developed for a device with an SD before any other chip available.
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With the Samsung devices I've had, no issue unlocking the bootloader. You have to use Odin or Heimdall to load a rom, and your warranty is voided (they've all had a 'knox bit' that gets burnt and is irreversible once burnt).
SD's notorious for being locked? Not in my experience. They are the most common chips to have aftermarket roms, thus the devices have to be unlockable. I'd put my money on a rom being developed for a device with an SD before any other chip available.
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In terms of phones, all Samsung Snapdragon phones sold anywhere except China/HK are bootloader locked. That's why I ended up importing an Exynos variant S9, so that I could benefit from the unlocked bootloader.
Bl is NOT locked. I contacted @ashyx a few days hoping he could make us a twrp, but he hasn't got back to me.
Phones are not tablets. Phones are generally branded to a carrier that likes to fiddle with the UI, add unremovable bloatware, determine tethering rules, and other things that can be circumvented with root. My money is that the generic tab s4 gets an unlocked bootloader eventually and the Verizon branded one does not
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Phones are not tablets. Phones are generally branded to a carrier that likes to fiddle with the UI, add unremovable bloatware, determine tethering rules, and other things that can be circumvented with root. My money is that the generic tab s4 gets an unlocked bootloader eventually and the Verizon branded one does not
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The generic tab S4 is the one that I plan to pick up. I'm just worried because even the official carrier unlocked Galaxy S9 sold in the US and Canada has a locked bootloader, so it just seems like a very Samsung thing right now.
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The generic tab S4 is the one that I plan to pick up. I'm just worried because even the official carrier unlocked Galaxy S9 sold in the US and Canada has a locked bootloader, so it just seems like a very Samsung thing right now.
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We will see. If the bootloader is really locked I will not become a customer of the Tab S4. Simple as that, as then there is no benefit for me anymore.
Received an e-mail this morning from Samsung in regards to the Tab S4 kernel source:
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
model name : SM-T830
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your interest in our product.
We are now in the process of reviewing your inquiry.
We will let you know a reply to this issue soon.
Sincerely yours,
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I have the Verizon T837V if any info is needed. There's already an update, but I haven't taken it yet.
Edit: looks like it might just be a security update, data usage is claiming only about 10mb for system update.
Edit 2: it's a small build update, new kernel, baseband.
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I have the Verizon T837V if any info is needed. There's already an update, but I haven't taken it yet.
Edit: looks like it might just be a security update, data usage is claiming only about 10mb for system update.
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Unfortunately I'm expecting the Verizon variant to be locked. I'm moreso just curious about the generic Wi-Fi variant.
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Unfortunately I'm expecting the Verizon variant to be locked. I'm moreso just curious about the generic Wi-Fi variant.
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Vz will absolutely be locked. WiFi is not.
suzook said:
Vz will absolutely be locked. WiFi is not.
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Do you have a source on this?
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Do you have a source on this?
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I have it. I'm the source.
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I have it. I'm the source.
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Without anything custom to flash yet, how do you know that the bootloader is unlocked? As far as I'm aware, just having "OEM Unlock" available in developer settings doesn't necessarily mean that custom binaries (TWRP, for example) can be flashed without throwing an error.
I'm just trying to be extremely careful before I get a Tab S4, because I don't want to buy it only to end up returning it just because it ends up being locked after all.
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
♦ model name : SM-T830 ♦
Dear Customer,
We are pleased to provide you the source code of SM-T830.
You can download the source code from the site below: http://opensource.samsung.com
Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
Samsung OSRC Team
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Sure enough, the source code is also available on the Samsung OSRC website.
Well thats cool.
When I was thinking SD not being unlocked I'm thinking of the phone versions are not unlock able, or rarity that they can be.
suzook said:
Bl is NOT locked. I contacted @ashyx a few days hoping he could make us a twrp, but he hasn't got back to me.
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u saying u purchased the verizon tab s4 from verizon and unlocked the bootloader?
I have looked around and can't seem to find a model that is cdma compatible with sprint that has the ability to unlock the bootloader. Seems the A505U carrier variant can't unlock the bootloader. I've tried doing the 7 day trick but it doesn't seem to work for the A505U sadly(looking for additional confirmation on this).
Also on the look out for this, but it's not looking very promising. ?
I wish there were an unlocked varient for the US i just purchased one and didnt realize till when i looked at the model number that its for Europe
So the Sprint model can not be unlocked and rooted? I haven't owned a Samsung device for several years but the A50 peaked my interest. Looks like the same scenario, GSM models can be unlocked and CDMA can not.
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I have looked around and can't seem to find a model that is cdma compatible with sprint that has the ability to unlock the bootloader. Seems the A505U carrier variant can't unlock the bootloader. I've tried doing the 7 day trick but it doesn't seem to work for the A505U sadly(looking for additional confirmation on this).
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Sprints S10 5G (G977P) is bl unlockable..
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Sprints S10 5G (G977P) is bl unlockable..
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I've seen atleast one other report that the 505U on Sprint and Verizon has locked BL. I've been told in telegram this si the case to. I have tested the 7 day trick extensively and it doesn't work on A505U. Did you have to do something special to get the oem unlock in dev options?
New To The Game..
Hello Gents...
Just picked up an Xfinity Version of the A50.
I have no plans to unlock and root.. as I want the security of Knox for Samsung / Google Pay.
But.. has anyone looked into what Xfinity is doing with their software?
Sprint Samsung A50 BL Unlock NO GO!
Ok so I am now an employee of Sprint. The information I have gathered is as follows. When Sprint requested this device from Samsung in their lengthy list of requirements one of them was that the ability to unlock the bootloader be removed. The reasoning behind this was that they did not want the end users to wind up " Accidentally " bricking their devices. As per insurance guidelines any attempt to modify the devices hardware and or software voids your warranty and your insurance that you carry on the device. So basically what they are saying is hey Android / Samsung community because of several hundred unintelligent people ruining their own devices we are removing the option in general. I am currently pushing to see if we can work with Samsung to push a firmware update that will allow this feature to be accessible as the whole point of having an android device it the open platform and being able to do these things. I really wish more cell phone manufacturers were like HTC which allows you to unlock the boot loader on any of their devices and even provide you a tool to turn S-Off on their website. But we cannot all be great.... Anyway hope that clears it up for ya'll and I am fighting the good fight on your behalf. P.S. I have the Samsung A50 and I was really not happy when I found out I could not root it.
@RoyalAssassin - QQ - will unlocked Sprint A50 work or can it be activated on VZ?
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@RoyalAssassin - QQ - will unlocked Sprint A50 work or can it be activated on VZ?
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If you're sprint a50 is unlocked it should work fine on vzw. You can call vzw and give them you're imei to check compatibly.
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Sprint Samsung A50 BL Unlock NO GO!
Ok so I am now an employee of Sprint. The information I have gathered is as follows. When Sprint requested this device from Samsung in their lengthy list of requirements one of them was that the ability to unlock the bootloader be removed. The reasoning behind this was that they did not want the end users to wind up " Accidentally " bricking their devices. As per insurance guidelines any attempt to modify the devices hardware and or software voids your warranty and your insurance that you carry on the device. So basically what they are saying is hey Android / Samsung community because of several hundred unintelligent people ruining their own devices we are removing the option in general. I am currently pushing to see if we can work with Samsung to push a firmware update that will allow this feature to be accessible as the whole point of having an android device it the open platform and being able to do these things. I really wish more cell phone manufacturers were like HTC which allows you to unlock the boot loader on any of their devices and even provide you a tool to turn S-Off on their website. But we cannot all be great.... Anyway hope that clears it up for ya'll and I am fighting the good fight on your behalf. P.S. I have the Samsung A50 and I was really not happy when I found out I could not root it.
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Here in 2021 looks like things didn't go well :'(
My old A505U is just off contract and the "OEM Unlock" switch is missing from the developer options menu. Additionally, none of the normal methods for getting it to appear have worked for me. (I have tried reflashing the stock firmware, the whole messing with the date&time and updating, factory reset + login + wait 2 to 14 days)
I have spent hours on the phone with both Samsung and my previous carrier, but with no results; none of their support people have the knowledge/are allowed to help with unlocking the bootloader.
I am getting very discouraged that this old phone of mine will ever run anything open :'(
Its been a very long time since i have done any of this stuff. I bought the verizon version and cannot get bootloader unlocked. I have searched and see there has been the same problem in the past models. Is there a bypass or workaround? I can only find one for early Pixel products.
Kpwise509 said:
Its been a very long time since i have done any of this stuff. I bought the verizon version and cannot get bootloader unlocked. I have searched and see there has been the same problem in the past models. Is there a bypass or workaround? I can only find one for early Pixel products.
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nvmnd. found my answer
Kpwise509 said:
nvmnd. found my answer
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I am in the same boat.. curious to what answer you found?
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I am in the same boat.. curious to what answer you found?
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I found another thread on here after I searched, and searched. From what I understand now. If it's a Verizon pixel the bootloader is locked permanently.
If you purchased your device from Verizon, or a Verizon variant from a 3rd party retailer (Best buy, Costco, etc.) the bootloader is locked tight!
If you want the option to root; return your VZW device and order one directly from Google.
It's not necessarily true, according to Verizon, they Sim unlock their phones after 60 days. Once that is done, we should be able to to check oem unlocking option in developers options and unlock the bootloader. Am I missing something?
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It's not necessarily true, according to Verizon, they Sim unlock their phones after 60 days. Once that is done, we should be able to to check oem unlocking option in developers options and unlock the bootloader. Am I missing something?
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Incorrect. SIM unlocking is not necessarily related to bootloader unlocking. While T-Mobile (and I think AT&T) users on here have found and reported that when they achieve SIM unlocking on their variants, that they can then bootloader unlock as well, Verizon has for a very, very long time enforced bootloader lock with all their will.
The only exceptions that I've ever heard of were not by choice of Verizon, but by hacks/vulnerabilities. Such as the VS985 LG G3, there was an exploit that didn't actually bootloader unlock, but more made it so that the locked bootloader didn't really matter. On the Pixel 1, if you had the Verizon variant and were still on Android 7.10 or below, you could unlock the bootloader, but once the 7.11 OTA came out, if you hadn't already unlocked the bootloader (or at least toggled the toggle), then you were locked in until a foreign national found a hacking way to get in, but they charge for it. All this while Verizon phones have been ultimately SIM unlocked for similarly a very long time.
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It's not necessarily true, according to Verizon, they Sim unlock their phones after 60 days. Once that is done, we should be able to to check oem unlocking option in developers options and unlock the bootloader. Am I missing something?
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You might be thinking 'carrier unlocked' vs "bootloader unlocked".
VZW does NOT like people rooting their devices so they have locked the bootloaders for several years now. I honestly don't even think any devs are working on a workaround/bypass for VZW devices anymore because they've had a long history of tightly locking down their device's bootloaders.
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You might be thinking 'carrier unlocked' vs "bootloader unlocked".
VZW does NOT like people rooting their devices so they have locked the bootloaders for several years now. I honestly don't even think any devs are working on a workaround/bypass for VZW devices anymore because they've had a long history of tightly locking down their device's bootloaders.
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No, I've been rooting/modding phones since eclair and used to be an XDA News writer, I definitely understand the difference between sim and bootloader unlocking. Once the phone is sim unlocked, the "OEM UNLOCK" option should no longer be greyed out in the developer options. Once that setting becomes available after sim unlock, there shouldn't be anything in the way of unlocking the bootloader. The only thing that could be an issue is if the manufacturer then required a token to unlock the bootloader, but I'm gonna go with Google isn't requiring that. Now, this is all based on my own knowledge and experience, if anyone has more insight to either back me up or shoot me down, please, this is the whole reason we're here in these threads, to gain knowledge and information. If Verizon is so informal about sim unlocking their phones after 60 days, it really doesn't make sense for them to enforce bootloader locking at that point. I mean, what is the point once they cut you loose with your sim card? Check this out, I had this ****ty Nord 10 5G from Metro and a guy figured out which apps to remove via ADB to carrier unlock the phone, hence making the OEM UNLOCK choice available in developer settings. What I'm saying is sometimes things aren't as locked down as you think, I mean, Metro is pretty strict on carrier locking their phones and really don't like doing it after you've met all the requirements. So if it's as easy as getting rid of a few apps via sneaking through ADB, it's gotta be that way for all the phones it's not like they're running different software (other than version level) they're all Android. Maybe this information will inspire someone on here that knows way more than me to figure out how to unlock a Verizon locked bootloader. If I'm correct, they really don't have that power to lock the bootloader, only to take away our option to do so by "sim/carrier" locking the phone which the software is told to take away our ability to choose that option. Please, anyone, I honestly would like to know if I'm wrong, but don't just say I'm wrong, explain to me and the rest of us. Thanks guys and girls!!!
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No, I've been rooting/modding phones since eclair and used to be an XDA News writer, I definitely understand the difference between sim and bootloader unlocking. Once the phone is sim unlocked, the "OEM UNLOCK" option should no longer be greyed out in the developer options. Once that setting becomes available after sim unlock, there shouldn't be anything in the way of unlocking the bootloader. The only thing that could be an issue is if the manufacturer then required a token to unlock the bootloader, but I'm gonna go with Google isn't requiring that. Now, this is all based on my own knowledge and experience, if anyone has more insight to either back me up or shoot me down, please, this is the whole reason we're here in these threads, to gain knowledge and information.
If Verizon is so informal about sim unlocking their phones after 60 days, it really doesn't make sense for them to enforce bootloader locking at that point.
I mean, what is the point once they cut you loose with your sim card? Check this out, I had this ****ty Nord 10 5G from Metro and a guy figured out which apps to remove via ADB to carrier unlock the phone, hence making the OEM UNLOCK choice available in developer settings. What I'm saying is sometimes things aren't as locked down as you think, I mean, Metro is pretty strict on carrier locking their phones and really don't like doing it after you've met all the requirements. So if it's as easy as getting rid of a few apps via sneaking through ADB, it's gotta be that way for all the phones it's not like they're running different software (other than version level) they're all Android. Maybe this information will inspire someone on here that knows way more than me to figure out how to unlock a Verizon locked bootloader. If I'm correct, they really don't have that power to lock the bootloader, only to take away our option to do so by "sim/carrier" locking the phone which the software is told to take away our ability to choose that option. Please, anyone, I honestly would like to know if I'm wrong, but don't just say I'm wrong, explain to me and the rest of us. Thanks guys and girls!!!
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I seriously doubt the "60 day sim unlock" allows the bootloader to be unlocked, otherwise we'd have a ton of VZW variant threads filled with development, and devices that are 61 days old, rooted, and running custom Roms.
But we don't. We don't have even have any developers working on VZW devices, regardless of age. So deductively thinking, the "60 day sim unlock" doesn't sound like it's currently an option.
Just my .02 (USD) worth
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Once the phone is sim unlocked, the "OEM UNLOCK" option should no longer be greyed out in the developer options. Once that setting becomes available after sim unlock, there shouldn't be anything in the way of unlocking the bootloader.
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That has never, ever been the case with Verizon variants of phones. 1) Verizon phones have been SIM/carrier unlocked from the get-go for a very long time and 2) Except for rare anomalies like the Pixel 1 on Android 7.10 or below, OEM unlocking was always grayed out.
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Once the phone is sim unlocked, the "OEM UNLOCK" option should no longer be greyed out in the developer options.
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That has never happened on a VZ Pixel and it is not going to happen on this one. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
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No, I've been rooting/modding phones since eclair and used to be an XDA News writer, I definitely understand the difference between sim and bootloader unlocking. Once the phone is sim unlocked, the "OEM UNLOCK" option should no longer be greyed out in the developer options. Once that setting becomes available after sim unlock, there shouldn't be anything in the way of unlocking the bootloader. The only thing that could be an issue is if the manufacturer then required a token to unlock the bootloader, but I'm gonna go with Google isn't requiring that. Now, this is all based on my own knowledge and experience, if anyone has more insight to either back me up or shoot me down, please, this is the whole reason we're here in these threads, to gain knowledge and information. If Verizon is so informal about sim unlocking their phones after 60 days, it really doesn't make sense for them to enforce bootloader locking at that point. I mean, what is the point once they cut you loose with your sim card? Check this out, I had this ****ty Nord 10 5G from Metro and a guy figured out which apps to remove via ADB to carrier unlock the phone, hence making the OEM UNLOCK choice available in developer settings. What I'm saying is sometimes things aren't as locked down as you think, I mean, Metro is pretty strict on carrier locking their phones and really don't like doing it after you've met all the requirements. So if it's as easy as getting rid of a few apps via sneaking through ADB, it's gotta be that way for all the phones it's not like they're running different software (other than version level) they're all Android. Maybe this information will inspire someone on here that knows way more than me to figure out how to unlock a Verizon locked bootloader. If I'm correct, they really don't have that power to lock the bootloader, only to take away our option to do so by "sim/carrier" locking the phone which the software is told to take away our ability to choose that option. Please, anyone, I honestly would like to know if I'm wrong, but don't just say I'm wrong, explain to me and the rest of us. Thanks guys and girls!!!
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sorry. your misinformed. Pixel devices from Verizon cannot have the bootloader unlocked. Period. end of story.
Have you ever had a Verizon device that was "carrier/sim unlocked" but couldn't unlock the bootloader? I have. and its real, so please research before you post misinformation.
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No, I've been rooting/modding phones since eclair and used to be an XDA News writer, I definitely understand the difference between sim and bootloader unlocking. Once the phone is sim unlocked, the "OEM UNLOCK" option should no longer be greyed out in the developer options. Once that setting becomes available after sim unlock, there shouldn't be anything in the way of unlocking the bootloader. The only thing that could be an issue is if the manufacturer then required a token to unlock the bootloader, but I'm gonna go with Google isn't requiring that. Now, this is all based on my own knowledge and experience, if anyone has more insight to either back me up or shoot me down, please, this is the whole reason we're here in these threads, to gain knowledge and information. If Verizon is so informal about sim unlocking their phones after 60 days, it really doesn't make sense for them to enforce bootloader locking at that point. I mean, what is the point once they cut you loose with your sim card? Check this out, I had this ****ty Nord 10 5G from Metro and a guy figured out which apps to remove via ADB to carrier unlock the phone, hence making the OEM UNLOCK choice available in developer settings. What I'm saying is sometimes things aren't as locked down as you think, I mean, Metro is pretty strict on carrier locking their phones and really don't like doing it after you've met all the requirements. So if it's as easy as getting rid of a few apps via sneaking through ADB, it's gotta be that way for all the phones it's not like they're running different software (other than version level) they're all Android. Maybe this information will inspire someone on here that knows way more than me to figure out how to unlock a Verizon locked bootloader. If I'm correct, they really don't have that power to lock the bootloader, only to take away our option to do so by "sim/carrier" locking the phone which the software is told to take away our ability to choose that option. Please, anyone, I honestly would like to know if I'm wrong, but don't just say I'm wrong, explain to me and the rest of us. Thanks guys and girls!!!
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Unfortunately, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news because I didn't want to find this out for myself lol (but of course I really did), but I can tell everyone that I have the Verizon version and after 60..well a little after that because of course it was not as easy as their terms say on their website that it will automatically unlock after 60 days...yeah right..I had to call and chat I cant even tell you how many times...to finally get the right person to help me...which turned into waiting a few more days but he came through and unlocked it....
so the bad news: the oem unlock in developer options is still greyed out. Now it says to contact your carrier or connect to the internet
I still have hope for maybe one day? i mean there is ALWAYS a way to do anything on phones..someone smart enough just has to figure it out
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Unfortunately, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news because I didn't want to find this out for myself lol (but of course I really did), but I can tell everyone that I have the Verizon version and after 60..well a little after that because of course it was not as easy as their terms say on their website that it will automatically unlock after 60 days...yeah right..I had to call and chat I cant even tell you how many times...to finally get the right person to help me...which turned into waiting a few more days but he came through and unlocked it....
so the bad news: the oem unlock in developer options is still greyed out. Now it says to contact your carrier or connect to the internet
I still have hope for maybe one day? i mean there is ALWAYS a way to do anything on phones..someone smart enough just has to figure it out
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This was the same for the Verizon Pixel 2 XL, and every Verizon Pixel since. No unlockable bootloader unfortunately.
My first foray into rooting was with the Galaxy Nexus. That had no issues unlocking the bootloader, and was the last phone I've bought at a store.
It's sad, that I can bring my rooted device and get a new line, but I can't tinker with their versions if I were to buy one at a store, online, whatever.
Their loss imo as there are a number of us I think, who would buy at the store if we could unlock the bootloader. I guess we as a group aren't big enough for them to worry about though.
You can however, play musical SIM card between devices, and it works. For the most part anyways.
I hate this.
What do they think people are just going to accidentally stumble on this, mistakenly download specific apps and Roms and out of the blue, randomly, and incorrectly, flash a very specific file causing the phone to brick and they don't want to keep fixing it?
Cause those Muppets all have iPhones...
Beyond stupid.
And here I was, done with how Samsung limited this process, so I ditched it for the shiny new Pixel... I'm the Muppet
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And here I was, done with how Samsung limited this process, so I ditched it for the shiny new Pixel
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Every Verizon variant of phones is locked down, and certainly, historically different models of them have been able to be either unlocked, or most of the time as far as I've experienced a workaround (security vulnerability) to unlocking was found (IIRC, the Stump method on LG phones worked this way), and the (again, as far as I'm aware) single time(s) that a Verizon phone was able to be bootloader unlocked as if it was made to be able to do so from the get-go, more or less: The Pixel 1 on Android 7.10 or below, and there is some foreign hacking method which can exploit some secret vulnerability if you're willing to pay to still be able to bootloader unlock the Pixel 1.
In my opinion, Samsung limits are even worse than the carrier-imposed limits, as Samsung keeps their phones from being bootloader unlocked on every U.S. Carrier, and even the direct from Samsung bought in the U.S. factory carrier unlocked model, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I only know the experience with the phones I've actually owned and what I remember from reading about others' experiences, however. The Exynos-based versions of Samsung phones are able to be bootloader unlocked at least in most countries, and again IIRC, some Snapdragon-based Samsungs in one or a few select countries too. Sony officially allows their bootloaders to be unlocked, but they purposefully and permanently gimp your phone's features if you do - and some other OEMs do similar, I'm given to understand.
I know it's frustrating about Verizon. Besides no longer buying carrier-specific models of phones, I no longer use Verizon as well, but it sucks for those who really need the carrier incentives.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Every Verizon variant of phones is locked down, and certainly, historically different models of them have been able to be either unlocked, or most of the time as far as I've experienced a workaround (security vulnerability) to unlocking was found (IIRC, the Stump method on LG phones worked this way), and the (again, as far as I'm aware) single time(s) that a Verizon phone was able to be bootloader unlocked as if it was made to be able to do so from the get-go, more or less: The Pixel 1 on Android 7.10 or below, and there is some foreign hacking method which can exploit some secret vulnerability if you're willing to pay to still be able to bootloader unlock the Pixel 1.
In my opinion, Samsung limits are even worse than the carrier-imposed limits, as Samsung keeps their phones from being bootloader unlocked on every U.S. Carrier, and even the direct from Samsung bought in the U.S. factory carrier unlocked model, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I only know the experience with the phones I've actually owned and what I remember from reading about others' experiences, however. The Exynos-based versions of Samsung phones are able to be bootloader unlocked at least in most countries, and again IIRC, some Snapdragon-based Samsungs in one or a few select countries too. Sony officially allows their bootloaders to be unlocked, but they purposefully and permanently gimp your phone's features if you do - and some other OEMs do similar, I'm given to understand.
I know it's frustrating about Verizon. Besides no longer buying carrier-specific models of phones, I no longer use Verizon as well, but it sucks for those who really need the carrier incentives.
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NOt every verizon phone, The samsung s20 bootloader was able to be unlocked.
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NOt every verizon phone, The samsung s20 bootloader was able to be unlocked.
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As it came without some temporary trick or vulnerability someone was able to take advantage of?
I've been going bananas and nuts trying to gather information on the S22 Ultra international models.
I'm certain, with Verizon, I need a GSM & CDMA capable phone so my voice and data both work.
I'm fairly certain I can't use one of the Exynos chipped models, but that it has to be a Snapdragon chip. (conflicting information out there on this)
So I'm thinking I need the SM-S908E ... or the B maybe?
Barring that, for anyone who has gotten an unlocked US model, can you get the Developer Options to appear and if so, does OEM Unlock appear? None of the demo models at Best Buy would unlock Developer Options, but that may just be a demo restriction.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control. My Verizon bloated S20 Ultra literally has no way to get to OEM Unlock. It simply isn't there.
My daughter has the US unlocked version S22. It does not have OEM unlock in developer options. From what I've read in these forums and elsewhere, the bootloaders of US S22/S22+/S22U devices can't be unlocked. Nobody has figured it out yet. I'm confident that as soon as someone does, it will be posted on XDA in big bold letters.
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My daughter has the US unlocked version S22. It does not have OEM unlock in developer options. From what I've read in these forums and elsewhere, the bootloaders of US S22/S22+/S22U devices can't be unlocked. Nobody has figured it out yet. I'm confident that as soon as someone does, it will be posted on XDA in big bold letters.
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That definitely helps. So it's Samsung locking the thing down for whatever reason.
I guess I still need some recommendations on non-US models and hope I can use one of those.
What makes this worse, my S20 (2020) Ultra has no way to get to "OEM Unlock", but the Tab A8 (2021) I just got does. Great consistency Samsung.
S, Z and Note series phones have been locked down since the S7 in the US. And the issue with buying an international phone for Verizon is that the bands you need won't be supported.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control.
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Yeah, this isn't even necessary anymore. Backing up your apps with Google or Samsung works great, and if you want to get rid of "excess garbage" just get the US Unlocked model.
entropism said:
S, Z and Note series phones have been locked down since the S7 in the US. And the issue with buying an international phone for Verizon is that the bands you need won't be supported.
Yeah, this isn't even necessary anymore. Backing up your apps with Google or Samsung works great, and if you want to get rid of "excess garbage" just get the US Unlocked model.
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I rooted my S8+, though there were a couple issues (visual VM never worked again and the battery % never went above 80% except a few times in the months before it died altogether).
I find it a little unlikely that an unlocked model would let me remove things like Game Booster (while I can "disable" it, it still interferes with games) and any number of other unwanted apps. This seems to be a hallmark of US models more than any other....bloat.
You rooted your S8 due to a leaked engineering bootloader, and if you did that, you knew the issues it caused (which you listed) and how difficult it was to obtain root for samsung devices since the S7.
Ar-Pharazon said:
I've been going bananas and nuts trying to gather information on the S22 Ultra international models.
I'm certain, with Verizon, I need a GSM & CDMA capable phone so my voice and data both work.
I'm fairly certain I can't use one of the Exynos chipped models, but that it has to be a Snapdragon chip. (conflicting information out there on this)
So I'm thinking I need the SM-S908E ... or the B maybe?
Barring that, for anyone who has gotten an unlocked US model, can you get the Developer Options to appear and if so, does OEM Unlock appear? None of the demo models at Best Buy would unlock Developer Options, but that may just be a demo restriction.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control. My Verizon bloated S20 Ultra literally has no way to get to OEM Unlock. It simply isn't there.
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if successful please keep me in the loop
Ar-Pharazon said:
I've been going bananas and nuts trying to gather information on the S22 Ultra international models.
I'm certain, with Verizon, I need a GSM & CDMA capable phone so my voice and data both work.
I'm fairly certain I can't use one of the Exynos chipped models, but that it has to be a Snapdragon chip. (conflicting information out there on this)
So I'm thinking I need the SM-S908E ... or the B maybe?
Barring that, for anyone who has gotten an unlocked US model, can you get the Developer Options to appear and if so, does OEM Unlock appear? None of the demo models at Best Buy would unlock Developer Options, but that may just be a demo restriction.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control. My Verizon bloated S20 Ultra literally has no way to get to OEM Unlock. It simply isn't there.
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If you want to remove excess garbage use adb app control
No root needed, can also remove icons from the status bar if not wanted
skinza said:
If you want to remove excess garbage use adb app control
No root needed, can also remove icons from the status bar if not wanted
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I finally got around to downloading ADPAppControl. All it shows me are com.xxxx apps. No way to see all apps by proper name. or is that only available in the "extended" version?
I'd still really prefer to get this thing rooted properly and use Titanium Backup, which I know works.
Before this I found that Kingoroot was worthless and RootMaster was infected with a Trojan virus.
Hello! I have a T-Mobile carrier Galaxy S9 (SM-G960U) and I haven't been able to find the OEM unlocking in my developer options. I have the device permanently unlocked (via the T-Mobile Device Unlock app) and I've still haven't been able to figure it out. I've been wanting to get Pixel Experience on this phone (since my main driver is a Pixel 6 Pro) and it hasn't been too successful. Thank you in advance!
Hello! Bro, i think there are no apps needed to unlock phone's bootloader.
If you used this app to unlock the bootloader bacuse this option did not appear in the settings, then you simply did not know, that it may take some time to be shown.
For my galaxy a51 it took only 5 mins after hard reset and connecting to the internet, but as I had galaxy a5, it needed a whole week to be there.
So, my my advice is, that you need to hard reset your phone, set up it after that and connect to the Internet; then enable developer options and make sure there is no such field. Afterwards wait maximum for 20 minutes and look through again. If it did not appear, it means that you need to wait more.
sorry for the grammar and so one, my english is not as fantastic as it could be
but as you can see, the threads of this phone are dead, therefore you will need to search the information for your questions in the internet, if you understand
but you can wait help from me, at least this day
btw, have it good!
I'm also having this issue and Googling the solution for hours on end has produced no results. I can't place calls because I can't enable VoLTE because I can't use flashing tools because I can't enable OEM Unlocking. I've had the phone for two years and I shouldn't have to delete all of my data just to use a basic function,
vmirrimv said:
you will need to search the information for your questions in the internet
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Replies like this are incredibly unhelpful.
Agreed. It sucks though because I've had the device unlocked by T-Mobile, and had it for over a week without a reset. On the other hand, my Google Pixel 6 Pro shows "OEM Unlocking" in its Dev options area but says that it cannot be unlocked due to it being carrier-locked. I wish at least Samsung gave this option, even though it'd be greyed out.
InkyBuro said:
Hello! I have a T-Mobile carrier Galaxy S9 (SM-G960U) and I haven't been able to find the OEM unlocking in my developer options. I have the device permanently unlocked (via the T-Mobile Device Unlock app) and I've still haven't been able to figure it out. I've been wanting to get Pixel Experience on this phone (since my main driver is a Pixel 6 Pro) and it hasn't been too successful. Thank you in advance!
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North American Samsung models haven't been user-unlockable since the Galaxy S7.
It *is* unlockable, but via paid 3rd party service only. You can PM me for more details if interested
iBowToAndroid said:
North American Samsung models haven't been user-unlockable since the Galaxy S7.
It *is* unlockable, but via paid 3rd party service only. You can PM me for more details if interested
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This is not only false, it's spam.
What you're doing is selling carrier unlocking services, which can often be obtained for free through the carrier customer service. InkyBuro is requesting advice for OEM unlocking, which allows a user to unlock their bootloader and customize their firmware.
MrV902 said:
This is not only false, it's spam.
What you're doing is selling carrier unlocking services, which can often be obtained for free through the carrier customer service. InkyBuro is requesting advice for OEM unlocking, which allows a user to unlock their bootloader and customize their firmware.
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No. I'm very well aware of the difference between carrier unlocking and bootloader unlocking. OP even says right there in his post that the device is already carrier unlocked. So why would I post anything about carrier unlocking....?
OP asked for bootloader unlocking, and that's what I responded with.
So you might wanna double check next time before assuming
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No. I'm very well aware of the difference between carrier unlocking and bootloader unlocking. OP even says right there in his post that the device is already carrier unlocked. So why would I post anything about carrier unlocking....?
OP asked for bootloader unlocking, and that's what I responded with.
So you might wanna double check next time before assuming
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Bootloader unlock has remained possible since the Galaxy S7, the only caveat being Exynos devices have historically not been unlockable.
Additionally, I am sending you a PM. I suggest you read it.
V0latyle said:
Bootloader unlock has remained possible since the Galaxy S7, the only caveat being Exynos devices have historically not been unlockable.
Additionally, I am sending you a PM. I suggest you read it.
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Bootloaders can NOT be unlocked by the end user on North American models, starting with the Galaxy S8.
Bootloaders ARE user unlockable (via OEM Unlock) on the vast majority of Samsung devices originating outside of North America, especially Exynos models.
I don't think you spend much time in the Samsung forums. This is something that inevitably gets brought up for every single North American model, and most models will have multiple threads in their respective forums, asking about bootloader unlock.
[Android][UNSAMLOCK] Bootloader Unlock for Samsung US/Canada Devices
This thread is @svetius approved Important notice: Do not update to April 2023 security update (XXXXXXXXXXWCX) or later. Examples: G998USQS6EWCA, N986USQU4HWD1. Samsung has patched the bootloader unlock again on those updates. NOTE: The OneUI...
forum.xda-developers.com
So, to be clear, unlocking North American Samsung devices (Snapdragon) seems to be only possible using the above service, which has been approved for XDA. To my knowledge there is no free alternative unfortunately.
V0latyle said:
So, to be clear, unlocking North American Samsung devices (Snapdragon) seems to be only possible using the above service, which has been approved for XDA. To my knowledge there is no free alternative unfortunately.
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I have had all US devices from S1 to S21 series
S1-S2 was unlockable by default
S3 was unlockable on certain variants
S4 was unlockable with loki
S5 Verizon unlockable on CID15 only
S6 unlockable only on certain variants
S7 not quite sure
S8-S22 require unlock token as there no exploits yet
i have one plus 9 pro LE2127, cant enable OEM unlock from developer option, help me pls
mubashar5130 said:
i have one plus 9 pro LE2127, cant enable OEM unlock from developer option, help me pls
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Why are you posting in the Samsung forum....????