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Ha! That'll need to be fixed!
I'm not surprised it can be fooled by a picture. I thought I read that already somewhere, but I'm not sure.
It's a low security option, has more of a gimmick and is not intended to provide a strong security measure.
I already confirmed that it will be unlocked by a picture of you. Not very strong on the security side, more of a... fun feature, to say so
AlexDmi said:
I already confirmed that it will be unlocked by a picture of you. Not very strong on the security side, more of a... fun feature, to say so
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Does the default Android locking mechanism still only work on the lock screen, or can you now lock out individual applications (messaging for example) like has been possible with dumbphones for almost 10 years now?
Nothing like that present.
Is it meant to be secure? I mean, requiring a slide from left to right is not exactly impenetrable, either.
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Is it meant to be secure? I mean, requiring a slide from left to right is not exactly impenetrable, either.
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You also have the pattern or keypad security if you want something more secure.
Mark.
You know Google have even highlighted that its a non-secure way of locking your phone. Its just another type of unlock method (when you have no pin set)
The Face Unlock should implement "smile" detection.
That will make it a bit harder compare to use "still" image to fool the Face Unlock
This isn't really news. Even google's official video shows selecting Face Unlock to be "Low Security - Experimental"
Check here at 38 seconds
you can do 2 levels of security.. face then code. no biggie
Anyone who wants to try Face Unlock can try this : https://market.android.com/details?id=visidon.AppLock
You'll have an idea of what this is about, I have the paid version and it's pretty good actually.
What about pinching one eye or the like when setting up the face-unlock. Should then demand a similar grimace to unlock. Pretty unlikely someone have such a picture around to unlock the phone..
Just a thought.. gonna test it
Well I think it's a nice security update from just a slider and it kinda avoids apples new patent on sliding to unlock a phone unless they also patented this...
In any event think of it like this we don't have to slide to unlock the phone now just look at it. Easier to unlock and a security enhancement.
I mean if I go to a restaurant and forget my phone someone who picks it up won't be able to get into it unless maybe they are a stalker...
So yes if there is someone stalking me who stealthfully snaps my picture then mugs me and takes my phone then yes they can beat the security. But seriously if you look at real world normal situations this is dynamite security.
Even the pattern isn't that secure. Have you ever examined your screen carefully? A lot of the time you can see the pattern by looking at the streaks on the window not to mention someone merely has to watch me do it to learn my pattern. It isn't like I go out of my way to cover it up...
I think people are making way to big a deal about this "security risk".
I really don't think that people who is afraid of getting their phone unlocked by other people would use the face unlock anyway.
ethion said:
Well I think it's a nice security update from just a slider and it kinda avoids apples new patent on sliding to unlock a phone unless they also patented this...
In any event think of it like this we don't have to slide to unlock the phone now just look at it. Easier to unlock and a security enhancement.
I mean if I go to a restaurant and forget my phone someone who picks it up won't be able to get into it unless maybe they are a stalker...
So yes if there is someone stalking me who stealthfully snaps my picture then mugs me and takes my phone then yes they can beat the security. But seriously if you look at real world normal situations this is dynamite security.
Even the pattern isn't that secure. Have you ever examined your screen carefully? A lot of the time you can see the pattern by looking at the streaks on the window not to mention someone merely has to watch me do it to learn my pattern. It isn't like I go out of my way to cover it up...
I think people are making way to big a deal about this "security risk".
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Apples patent only covers sliding on a specific line and so doesnt cover Honeycomb onwards if I recall correctly and definitely doesnt cover the unlock action on ICS.
Mark.
gogol said:
The Face Unlock should implement "smile" detection.
That will make it a bit harder compare to use "still" image to fool the Face Unlock
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So what about all those grumpy people in the world?? You would have to pass a smile test before being allowed to buy the phone lol
Mark.
Im curious if face unlock will be affected by changes in facial hair? If I don't shave for a few days and am rocking a mild beard, will I have to reset it with a new picture?
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Im curious if face unlock will be affected by changes in facial hair? If I don't shave for a few days and am rocking a mild beard, will I have to reset it with a new picture?
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I don't think so... it measures the distances between your facial features (eyes, noise, mouth)
The Face-Unlock feature is not a security feature. It's just a feature to unlock the screen without using your fingers.
Just wanted you guys feelings on how this feature is doing in your nexus life. I actually use it as a security feature and it hasn't let me down and I don't think it will. I'd like to hear your thoughts. That's one up on the iphone.
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Less secure than PIN or pattern unlock as the 'PIN' in the case of Face Unlock is literally written all over your face.
Note that the argument is actually more complicated than this because it depends on what threat you're actually trying to secure your phone from.
the one are i think this is the most useful is when i'm driving and i have to unlock. tell me that isn't convenient.
I tried it for two days, but I became tired of looking like a real winner in public unlocking my phone, as well as it didn't catch my face all the time. (about 66% of the time) I do agree however that it is more than a gimmick.
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the one are i think this is the most useful is when i'm driving and i have to unlock. tell me that isn't convenient.
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Thats the only time i see this being useful. I havent tried it and probably dont plan on as right now its just a fun feature if anything.
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It would be great if the preview image from face unlock could be disabled. I know I'm handsome and all, but I don't want to look at my mug 63 times a day.
I tried it at the verizon store and it seemed pretty legit. Does anybody know if this is a galnex only feature or will it come to all ics devices with a front facing camera?
Well,count me as loving it.
It's very fast. Works about 90% of the time if you do half a dozen shots under different conditions with the improve matching feature.
I really like it.
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I tried it at the verizon store and it seemed pretty legit. Does anybody know if this is a galnex only feature or will it come to all ics devices with a front facing camera?
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I installed the OTA onto my Nexus S, it is not an option even though it has an ffc.
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I think it's just like any other security lock on smartphones. PIN, pattern, and face unlock, they are all the same imho. If I got the phone in my hand, I'll be able to see what you have no matter what. Doesn't matter what kind of security feature you have.
i was surprised that it worked with my glasses on and off. i initially set it up, but i cant be bothered setting up a secure lock screen, since i like quick camera access which cant be had with a PIN or face unlock
using it on mine, however the one interesting thing is, I was showing off on launch day. And handed my phone to my mom and said unlock it. She turned it on and it recognized her faster than me. As posted previously, use the improve feature in settings
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I'm actually constantly surprised by how well the face unlock works! And if for whatever reason you want to bypass it quickly, you can just tap at the bottom of the screen to go immediately to whatever your backup method is!
I tried a couple facebook pictures of myself and those didn't unlock, and I also haven't tried to see if it might recognize my brother as me but honestly, if someone really wanted to get into your phone, they would regardless of what kind of "security" you use. In my opinion, the face unlock is quick, functional and cool. What's not to like?
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I installed the OTA onto my Nexus S, it is not an option even though it has an ffc.
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Yeah, and Face Unlock on all the custom ICS builds was absolutely horrible. Worked maybe 1/10 times after setting it up in perfect lighting.
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Well,count me as loving it.
It's very fast. Works about 90% of the time if you do half a dozen shots under different conditions with the improve matching feature.
I really like it.
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where exactly is this improve matching feature
I cant seem to find it
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I think it's just like any other security lock on smartphones. PIN, pattern, and face unlock, they are all the same imho. If I got the phone in my hand, I'll be able to see what you have no matter what. Doesn't matter what kind of security feature you have.
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+1 on this.
(I was too lazy to elaborate on different threat scenarios more than adding a disclaimer to my post
Works alright. I don't know I like having it turned on, but have messed with it some.
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where exactly is this improve matching feature
I cant seem to find it
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It's in 4.0.2, you won't find it in 4.0.1
It takes too long for my liking.
I find it stupid that my Nexus won't let me use face recognotion if I setup a VPN, it forces you to choose between a pin/pattern/password. So now if I want to use face unlock I have to create then delete my VPN connection everytime.
Without ever seeing the Fold in person and actually handling it I going to miss a few features based on the Specs I've read and videos I've watched. Here's my list.
Features I might miss:
1. Larger front facing screen...my caveat here is if the screen was larger it would probably be way too skinny anyway and would look really weird because of the dimensions..
2. Iris Scanner - love this feature on my N9. I know it's already gone on the S10's but it just works so well.
3. Update :MST for Samsung Pay is Probable for all phones. From what I've read, we're only getting NFC at least on AT&T but their website could be wrong since Samsung says it will have MST & AND NFC. That is always the beauty of Samsung Pay over various other Pay technologies. Worked just about everywhere for me.
4. MicroSD slot. OK, I might not use up the 512GB but do love the MicroSSD option which is great to easily move files and backups around., etc.
5. Waterproofing. I'm guessing that the Hinge is the problem and it would be difficult to waterproof the phone because of it.
6. The Fold would have been perfect if it had an S-Pen...with a selfie camera in the S-Pen (LOL!).
Features I'm not happy with (but I'll still live with):
1. That damn notch with a bezel on the big/inside screen. Almost made me bypass the pre-order. If that screen wasn't so large, I definitely would not have bought the phone. I swore I'd never buy a phone with a notch...Oh well.
2. (I know that this should probably be number one) The Crease! It remains to be seen but every video displays the crease in some manner. I find it funny that any article that I've read where Samsung has replied states that the crease is only seen in these **pre-production** models and the crease will not be seen on the final Fold versions. I'm not holding my breath on this one! So many reviewers stated that looking at the screen straight on and/or with a different wallpaper that the crease is barely visible or not visible at all. Now looking at the screen off to the side, the crease can be seen.
3. The batteries. They should have installed greater mAh capacity batteries. C'mon Samsung! You're using 2 separate batteries, give us more juice. You know we'll be on the 7.3" screen constantly!
4. I'm not really mad that they removed the headphone jack. I love options but 99% of the time I'm using BT headphones anyway.
5. The cameras. OK, we have LOTS of them! But for almost $2000.00 these cameras should have been even better than the S10/S10+'s cams. This Fold phone is Super Special and should have had a little bit more (can you say 10 X optical zoom? Might not have fit though).
6. I am still not fond of the Bixby functionality in comparison to Google Assistant. The Bixby routines are probably the best part of Bixby. I'll probably bypass Bixby.
7. Bixby button also being the fingerprint scanner. I'll lose my mind if I continually activate the Bixby button instead of unlocking my phone. That would make me crazy so I would use other software to disable Bixby altogether.
8. Many early articles on the Fold stated that Samsung would give us a free year of Samsung Premium Care+. I'm hoping that when I receive the Fold, I'll be surprised and find documentation to sign up for our free year. I'm probably dreaming...
9. They should have offered more for Trade-ins. Only up to $300.00 where it was $550.00 for the S10 possible trade-in values. (I'm kind of glad though since I may just need to keep my Note 9 around for awhile).
Unknowns:
1. It remains to be seen if the developers will build apps to work with continuity and sizing, etc. If that isn't done then we might own a $2000.00 boring paperweight. I need my Kustom suite of Apps and if they don't work, the Fold will be almost useless to me).
2. Will the Fold just be too long to easily fit in my pocket. I never put any phones in a back pocket but occasionally put in front pocket. Most of the time it's in a zippered pocket in a jacket or purse or backpack or small waist pack. I'm really not too worried..yet! Hahaha!
3. We definitely need a variety of cases. I'm sure they'll come. The interest in the Fold has seemingly surpassed Samsung's expectations. Samsung kept the final Fold design under wraps so long that I think that's one of the reasons the case makers haven't delivered yet (or they thought that the Fold wouldn't have much interest). I need a super protective Clear Case. I want to show off that Martian green with Gold Hinge!! (and I want to look at it too).
Final observations:
With all of the unknowns and possible negatives, don't get me wrong. I want the Fold!
I love being an early adopter and have saved up for this thing. I've been following Samsung over the years and drooling at all of their foldable prototypes.
With Samsung's track record on gorgeous displays, I know I'll love the tablet screen. I think that the small front screen is not a deal breaker because I liken it to my Lock/AOD screen where I glance at information then move on to the larger screen. It will be just one more step to fully open the Fold. Not inconvenient when you know what's coming! A huge, beautiful screen.
The COOL factor for the Fold is priceless! I am so anxious to get it and I know the feeling will continue as others spot the phone and want to check it out.
If the Fold ends up being a fantastic phone for me, then I'll be selling off a few other Tablets I have as well as my N9.
This is going to be Big! Cannot wait to play!
What do you guys think?
I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Based off of the limited amount of people that will buy and have this device probably not, but I could be wrong ?
I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode as it is on the larger Samsung tablets. That would be a killer app for me. I know we can use up to 3 apps, but it's not the same as having a few windows layered and tapping between them, especially if you're copying and pasting between a few documents and you want that bigger layout on each to see text placement properly. Maybe someone will manage to extract and develop an apk that doesn't require root for that.
With regards to the above, I used to have a Toshiba PDA that ran Windows Mobile and with it's 800x600 display you could change the screen scaling and achieve a similar effect. It was pretty great.
The thing I'm mainly looking forward to is reducing my travel kit from a phone, tablet, and kindle to just one device. Ok maybe not just one device, I'll have room for my Switch more often now. Airport security love giving my bags an extra search due to all of the gadgets I end up carrying, and hopefully this will mean I just sail through like most other people.
And while it may be an elitist prick move, I want people to notice it. Most friends and colleagues know I'm a tech geek, but nobody notices the tech anymore, as all of the phones and tablets look so similar. They don't realise it's something new or cool and don't ask. Plus, nowadays all it involves is showing off something a bit faster with more storage and a better camera. Nothing has done anything new for years now. This brings back that wow factor when new phones had something brand new and sparks conversation about the future again.
The US devices will have locked bootloaders just like the other US Samsung devices. Unless I've missed it there is no word on international devices yet. If you're like me and root is a necessity you might want to consider waiting until the situation is sorted out.
Edit... One other thing I ran into today in regards to a potential S-pen is that a reviewer was opining the screen was too soft to support writing. That was a stated opinion not a fact from Samsung. So a guess but not an unreasonable one; It isn't hard to imagine the screen not being able to hold up to a pen.
Here’s an important notice for current and future Galaxy Fold owners
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/04/1...portant-notice/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
SAMSUNG GALAXY FOLD ??????
Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that
nique0201 said:
Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that
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The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Doubtful on AT&T or T-MO devices... You know it's always that locked bootloader thing in US phones.
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AlanJC said:
I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode
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Looks like we'll still be able to create a gif from a video (you could still have done it on the S9's too). Here's a tutorial for the S10's so I'm sure the Fold will be able to make one too:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How...or-S10e-without-downloading-any-apps_id115228
Also, it is Dex ready/capable.
Great points you've made in your response! Thx!
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burrzoo said:
The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/
Bjray said:
It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/
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This would be great! I'm wondering if it's for Non US Folds. I'm hoping it's for everyone. I wish I had the eSim/nano sim option but not with my carrier (AT&T).
MST not listed in their specs but hopefully it's just incorrect. Thank you for the clarification.
https://www.att.com/buy/phones/samsung-galaxy-fold-512gb-space-silver.html
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good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.
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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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You're kidding, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxkAVnl6RVw&list=PLLjWNJiWtHZV-rqGklsgrjoK1ssOJfvrE&index=6
I'm out of here. I'm a rooter and right now I'm now feeling the love with dropping 2k on this device and then killing the warranty. This isn't a complaint per se, it's just not the right tree to be sniffing around for those like me that will most def flog the thing. I do hope all who buy in enjoy the bejesus out of themselves. Good luck gents.
nique0201 said:
good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.
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I was just reading AT&T version of the manual & no mention of MST, only NFC. THAT would be stupid to me & I'd really miss it.
http://downloadcenter.samsung....d_EN_UM_P_9.0_040919_FINAL.pdf
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XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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I think people are going over the top a bit, the camera does not take x-ray pics, and perverts will not be able to use it for that intention.
I highly doubt that OnePlus will remove the use of the camera because of the ability to see through specific types of plastic, the supposed see through clothes is more bullsh** , only very sheer and thin fabrics can be seen through and it has to be tight for you to even see anything.
But worst case scenario and OP do remove the use of the camera then they will either have a lawsuit against them or someone will open the use of the camera again with root.
omg seriously...
ITS NOT A DAMN X RAY!
You cannot see people naked by using the filter camera.
People need to grow up
the op 8 pro color filter will be disabled in a future update because social media hyped it up like it was a true x-ray magic camera when this is completely wrong.
I want to know what the official stand of OnePlus is on this matter because if that fourth camera sensor gets completely disabled we are losing actual hardware functionally that we paid for, it's like disabling half of the ram and storage space after you sell the phone, yes I know it's not an important feature for most people, but still it's part of the hardware of the phone and part of the price.....
What is next , disabling the zoom of the s20 ultra because you can spy on people from far away? You understand that this is completely ridiculous.
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the op 8 pro color filter will be disabled in a future update because social media hyped it up like it was a true x-ray magic camera when this is completely wrong.
I want to know what the official stand of OnePlus is on this matter because if that fourth camera sensor gets completely disabled we are losing actual hardware functionally that we paid for, it's like disabling half of the ram and storage space after you sell the phone, yes I know it's not an important feature for most people, but still it's part of the hardware of the phone and part of the price.....
What is next , disabling the zoom of the s20 ultra because you can spy on people from far away? You understand that this is completely ridiculous.
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https://m.weibo.cn/status/J2z9UgzY7?type=comment&jumpfrom=weibocom
This seems kinda official. Im not sure if this will be for the Asian markets only, but I don't think so.
In any case, this is ridiculous. This is not the Sony camera from the late 1990s.
Yep, that's really ridiculous and hard to understand that OP is really disabling this....
Also I'm not sure what this time limited disabling should do, either I have that camera or not...
BTW infrared photography is a well known subject in photo enthusiast communities and without any slippery context whatsoever - so why the fuss at all?! ....
In the end this is sad news for me, I actually liked the infrared look in photos and the fact that my OP8P could do it....
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Yep, that's really ridiculous and hard to understand that OP is really disabling this....
Also I'm not sure what this time limited disabling should do, either I have that camera or not...
BTW infrared photography is a well known subject in photo enthusiast communities and without any slippery context whatsoever - so why the fuss at all?! ....
In the end this is sad news for me, I actually liked the infrared look in photos and the fact that my OP8P could do it....
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yeah exactly ,and if oneplus do this then everyone has a reason and right to ask for a refund !
Oneplus reacted with a statement, seems as if the camera is going to stay on OOS at least....
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Oneplus reacted with a statement, seems as if the camera is going to stay on OOS at least....
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It still worries me with the "limiting functionality" bit.
They're only doing this in China from what I have heard. Maybe the chinese government would've stepped in (wouldn't be a surprise at least)
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XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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Hey OP, I saw your video on XDA and then I tweeted about it...which led to it circulating heavily among blogs/YouTubers. That's probably where all the views came from, lol. Never expected this issue to blow up like it did!
Is possible to downgrade to have the feature back if I buy a phone with Photochrom feature already disabled?
This is only happening on HydrogenOS (OnePlus phones in China), and they do plan to bring it back as soon as they can figure out how to deal with the issues. So its only temporary.
It should also be known that by disabling this, if you are using HydrogenOS, this will only disable the Photochrom filter since its the only filter that uses that camera.
PMad said:
This is only happening on HydrogenOS (OnePlus phones in China), and they do plan to bring it back as soon as they can figure out how to deal with the issues. So its only temporary.
It should also be known that by disabling this, if you are using HydrogenOS, this will only disable the Photochrom filter since its the only filter that uses that camera.
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What is temporary exactly, that it remains available or the disablement when gets updated?
MishaalRahman said:
Hey OP, I saw your video on XDA and then I tweeted about it...which led to it circulating heavily among blogs/YouTubers. That's probably where all the views came from, lol. Never expected this issue to blow up like it did!
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Yeah I wondered why I suddenly jumped from about 10 views to thousands in no time ,checked that stats on YT studio and it was being viewed from all over a lot quoting your tweets .If only I was monetized ??
i just am lost for words at the stupidity of people..
combat goofwing said:
Yeah I wondered why I suddenly jumped from about 10 views to thousands in no time ,checked that stats on YT studio and it was being viewed from all over a lot quoting your tweets .If only I was monetized ??
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You can still do lots of videos about it. How to preserve Oxygen OS version, how to downgrade, how to enable back after update...
Well .. I for one am not taking that kind of update if it does come to Oxygen...
Or we will all get a real photochrome camera and start posting pics of us all looking through "BLACK PLASTIC"
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Well .. I for one am not taking that kind of update if it does come to Oxygen...
Or we will all get a real photochrome camera and start posting pics of us all looking through "BLACK PLASTIC"
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I guess it will depend if the update is just the camera.apk or the entire system.
I'm from China and i got a close communication with some of the developers in oneplus. It's really ridiculous that some of the people via media spread the news that the color filter works like an X-ray. Also a lot of female got afraid of it in weibo which I consider nonsense. Most of the oneplus users in China also got shocked and a bit annoyed. However, the filter would not be removed in oxygen OS according to some news. And in Chinese forum, one of the administer says the filter will be reproduced and likely to come back in June.
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock considering that even the door to my house has a fingerprint reader. What are your thoughts on it?
Removing face unlock is very uncomfortable
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Removing face unlock is very uncomfortable
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Sometimes I still pick up my phone and stare at it like a complete idiot for a few seconds before I remember that it doesn't have face unlock
Well people wanted it for when wearing a mask but this FPS is a disgrace. It was quicker lowering my mask and using face unlock then this trash FPS. I'm sure it will improve in time but I'm also considering going to just a pin.
I really don't understand this company. They add and remove **** on every phone they release. Soli in then gone, squeeze in then gone, face ID in then gone. It's ridiculous. But hey...we have a curved screen lol.
It actually is the worst FPS ever! I just hope it's not a hardware issue and can be fixed by software
Try to just lay your finger on the scanner, ever so slightly, instead of pressing. Helped me.
I agree here, Faceunlock was beautiful. In an ideal world, we would have gotten Faceunlock AND fingerprint scanner (back).
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Well people wanted it for when wearing a mask but this FPS is a disgrace. It was quicker lowering my mask and using face unlock then this trash FPS. I'm sure it will improve in time but I'm also considering going to just a pin.
I really don't understand this company. They add and remove **** on every phone they release. Soli in then gone, squeeze in then gone, face ID in then gone. It's ridiculous. But hey...we have a curved screen lol.
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Worst decision... Curved screen. It adds nothing valuable!! It throws shadows. It makes it hard getting a proper screen protection. Useless. Absolutely.
FPS is a good idea - if added additionally to face unlock. Sigh.
Mine seems to be getting worse. 2 full seconds to register seems to be the average if it actually works the first time. About half the time it takes 2 or more tries. I'm coming from a scanner on a 5 year old phone that just works. I told myself I just needed to get used to it, but the opposite seems to be happening. The longer I own the phone, the more I just assume stuff will work, so I'm less careful with the FPR, etc.
Mine's erratic with performance all over the place. Sometimes it fails, sometimes it takes 3s to work, sometimes the screen stays blank until I use the power button.
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Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock considering that even the door to my house has a fingerprint reader. What are your thoughts on it?
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I agree with you entirely. I was strongly considering returning this POS and jumping ship to iPhone. I think instead I'll keep it and trade it in on an s22 or something. Not sure I can deal with iOS either.
If i didn't break my p4 xl...I would absolutely have returned this as this is an inferior phone in every single aspect other than the camera
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Worst decision... Curved screen. It adds nothing valuable!! It throws shadows. It makes it hard getting a proper screen protection. Useless. Absolutely.
FPS is a good idea - if added additionally to face unlock. Sigh.
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Exactly...well said
When the rumors were flying around about this phone months back and it was mentioned that 6pro might have a curved screen.... I cringed.
I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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Unsure if I will return my P6P. However, for my first in screen finger print reader, this can't be right.
The FPR is so fickle. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Agreed that if anyone spent any time with this phone, they would know to fix the FPR.
There are a few issues I hope Google can resolve soon: FPR, auto-brightness and antenna (if there is a software fix for antenna hanging on to weak 5G signals instead of moving to a stronger LTE when it is available).
yeah mine was returned yesterday back to ATT store for this same issue, used it one day and went back into the box most horrible FP I ever used, I had had to eat 55.00 restocking because of this crap oh well lesson learn!
Mine works just as good as any OnePlus phones I've had in the past few years
It's working very well for me but that's because my expectations aren't ultrasonic sensor ones. The accuracy has been very good but it's the speed that varies from pretty quick to 3/4 a second. Key thing is to press and hold until the haptics confirm or deny it. With that in mind I rarely get misses. Maybe a handful a day. Could it be better, sure, but it's not total trash.
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I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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That helped mine changing the animations then changing it back. Seems to be better, hope it lasts.
ilmar72 said:
I agree with you entirely. I was strongly considering returning this POS and jumping ship to iPhone. I think instead I'll keep it and trade it in on an s22 or something. Not sure I can deal with iOS either.
If i didn't break my p4 xl...I would absolutely have returned this as this is an inferior phone in every single aspect other than the camera
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Wow... You loose absolutely all credibility when you say the pixel 4 is "better in every aspect other than camera". That is just an idiotic comment. I understand you can't please everyone and there will always be a handful of people that'll complain, but come on... You are being absolutely ridiculous.
BTW, not understanding how y'all are having the negative experience. Been using fingerprint since day 1, and maybe had 1 or 2 times where I had to try a second time to unlock the phone. Only negative thing I can say is it does seem to be slightly slower than other fingerprint phones I've used before. I'm sure Google will address it or someone will modify the kernel source to improve the overall speed. It feels like people expect to be 100 percent satisfied in every aspect and if something only reaches 90 percent, their brains explode and the world is coming to an end!
If a slightly delayed (we're talking tenths of a second) fingerprint reader is such a deal breaker and calls for all this complaining, I can only imagine how y'all deal with everyday life. Just saying.
NUGZZ420 said:
Mine works just as good as any OnePlus phones I've had in the past few years
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Same here - my FPS is working just fine, maybe just a bit slower than the one I had on my OnePlus 7T Pro, but still nothing to complain about...
Fp working properly for me...