Greetings,
my system takes up about 44GB in internal storage.
Even after a factory reset, it has been like this since I got the device
No matter if I'm using android 9 or android 10 beta
Do you guys experience the same?
The same, nature of the beast
My device shows a simmilar amount, 44.70 GB, system/user files, I think it is normal
raul6 said:
The same, nature of the beast
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I get that the system uses a lot of storage, but nowhere near this.
If you download a firmware file it is about 4 to 5 GB.
There is no way this gets extracted to 44GB
In my opinion Samsung is cutting space to market their cloud service and or bigger devices
Reaper1337 said:
I get that the system uses a lot of storage, but nowhere near this.
If you download a firmware file it is about 4 to 5 GB.
There is no way this gets extracted to 44GB
In my opinion Samsung is cutting space to market their cloud service and or bigger devices
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I want to know more about this...
Something shady here.
Reaper1337 said:
Greetings,
my system takes up about 44GB in internal storage.
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Just checked my N10+(snap), it's a lot less:
Exynos 256GB
winol said:
My device shows a simmilar amount, 44.70 GB, system/user files, I think it is normal
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Do you have the 512 or 256gb version?
I have the 256 GB
Ohhh..must be formating option, the bigger drive more space is lost l, like on hdd...
Makonator said:
Ohhh..must be formating option, the bigger drive more space is lost l, like on hdd...
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I know what you mean, but even with this in mind, there is no way that 44GB are just lost!
It should be less
Somewhere around 470GB
So, after partitioning the phone, there should be 476,8GB left
512 GB / (1024*1024*1024)
Reaper1337 said:
I know what you mean, but even with this in mind, there is no way that 44GB are just lost!
It should be less
Somewhere around 470GB
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I think system files are around 22gb and rest is just lost parttition space.
Remember there is A & B slots so a clone of OS for upgrading
DanXbix said:
Remember there is A & B slots so a clone of OS for upgrading
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Could you please explain further?
Mine takes 24.8 gigs on a U1 with Android 10
Reaper1337 said:
In my opinion Samsung is cutting space to market their cloud service and or bigger devices
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If that was the case then why offer 512 or an SDcard. I mean of course they want to sell more devices but thinking they are trying to use this to push cloud services seems a little far fetched.
If you haven't already decided to move to the cloud, I dont see how 44gb out of 512 will push you there. That is without even considering the SDcard.
It's the same on mine, i wouldn't mind even if I see people with half space taken from system: we probably have some dex or knox related stuffs active that they don't. I have the exynos 512 10+
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Its in case a firmware install goes bad it reverts to other slot. There is 2 copys of the OS on system emmc.Actually I am incorrect https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kevintresuelo.treble
This device just full of bloat
Reaper1337 said:
Greetings,
my system takes up about 44GB in internal storage.
Even after a factory reset, it has been like this since I got the device
No matter if I'm using android 9 or android 10 beta
Do you guys experience the same?
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my n976v is only like half of that
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ok just got a evo and thinking of making the switch officail from tmobile hd2 now on the hd2 android roms you can increase the data.img size to default 512 MB, 1 GB or in some cases 2 GB allowing you to install more apps on to your phone, I was wondering if the same thing was possible to do with the evo I like to have a lot of apps on my phone so if someone could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.
11 views and not one answer seriously someone has to know the answer to this and yes i have searched and found nothing
Forums are kind of dead on the weekends.
I haven't seen anything like that for the evo since it's 512ram/512rom.
We have apps to sd - basically you can move your apps to the SD card, which is normally bigger than the ram/rom.
Hrshycro said:
Forums are kind of dead on the weekends.
I haven't seen anything like that for the evo since it's 512ram/512rom.
We have apps to sd - basically you can move your apps to the SD card, which is normally bigger than the ram/rom.
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Um, isn't it 1GB ROM + 512MB RAM?
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ok just got a evo and thinking of making the switch officail from tmobile hd2 now on the hd2 android roms you can increase the data.img size to default 512 MB, 1 GB or in some cases 2 GB allowing you to install more apps on to your phone, I was wondering if the same thing was possible to do with the evo I like to have a lot of apps on my phone so if someone could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.
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Obviously you can't increase it its the built in Rom space.
You can use apps to SD (a2sd) on some roms that partitions your card and puts apps on it.
yeah sorry about that and I just know on the HD2 android which I have been using on tmobile you can increase the data.img size up to 1 GB which allows you to install way more apps on your android
bokechukwu1 said:
yeah sorry about that and I just know on the HD2 android which I have been using on tmobile you can increase the data.img size up to 1 GB which allows you to install way more apps on your android
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that is because on your HD2, the data.img file resides on the memory card, which is likely 8GB or larger, so that increase in size is possible. On the Evo, the data.img is stored on the internal ROM, which has a physical capacity of 512MB, so we have already reached the maximum capacity...
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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hakeem0996 said:
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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Is your 16gb card a class 6? If not that's probably why.
^ FAST... Why do you say that.. Just curious because I was about to pull the trigger on a Class 6 16GB right now.
hakeem0996 said:
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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330? and how many do you really use.....
Award Tour said:
Um, isn't it 1GB ROM + 512MB RAM?
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According to google.com/phone you're right.
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According to google.com/phone you're right.
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Those are the correct specs. They are the same that HTC, Sprint, and now Google have always advertised. 1 GB Rom and 512 MB Ram.
As to the OP, you may be able to change the partitions some, especially if you clean up the system partition, but it would require building a new ROM and flashing it. At least, that's the only way I know of to repartition your NAND.
Oh, and you probably won't recover way too much memory to the data partition. Probably no more than you free in system by removing some unnecessary built in apps like Quickoffice.
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Is your 16gb card a class 6? If not that's probably why.
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^ FAST... Why do you say that.. Just curious because I was about to pull the trigger on a Class 6 16GB right now.
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Becasue a class 6 card will be faster then a class 2 or etc.
I know this is an old, dead thread, but if someone is searching and comes across the OP's question, here is the answer.
frnds,as the titles says plz hlp...m s2 have 14.35 gb,it was ok but 10 gb damm...
The missing storage is partitioned for the system.
android88 said:
The missing storage is partitioned for the system.
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i know but why 4 gb,unlike my s2...n r u guys having 10.36 gb too,r its only me
i have 10.36 gb free space too. all Note 2 have that much free space
OS eats up lots of memory
That's how it is. Space is lower than what manufacturers advertise + system hogs space. Just buy a 64GB microsd card, they're not expensive.
sajadkhan806 said:
i know but why 4 gb,unlike my s2...n r u guys having 10.36 gb too,r its only me
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The 8GB Nexus 4 has just over 5GB of usable storage. There is a mod for the Note 2 where you can use your external microSD as your internal SD and vice versa. You might want to do this if you have a 64GB microSD so you'll have a lot of "internal" storage.
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The 8GB Nexus 4 has just over 5GB of usable storage. There is a mod for the Note 2 where you can use your external microSD as your internal SD and vice versa. You might want to do this if you have a 64GB microSD so you'll have a lot of "internal" storage.
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I think that we do have that mod, i have read about it in themes and apps its a sticky, they have ported it from the s3 threads.
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sos_sifou said:
I think that we do have that mod, i have read about it in themes and apps its a sticky, they have ported it from the s3 threads.
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That's cool .
android88 said:
That's cool .
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The link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32487083
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hmmmm im just wondering why it shows my total storage is at 10.xx gig only and free storage is at 9.xx gig when it should be 16 gig total and less than that when you install apps....and i just got my phone today....enlighten me please....
MohJee said:
That's how it is. Space is lower than what manufacturers advertise + system hogs space. Just buy a 64GB microsd card, they're not expensive.
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mate i have a 32 transcend card,thats not an issue but i hated to see only 10.36 out of the advertised one,thats why...thanks all for directing towards that mod...
sajadkhan806 said:
mate i have a 32 transcend card,thats not an issue but i hated to see only 10.36 out of the advertised one,thats why...thanks all for directing towards that mod...
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You still get the advertised 16GB but only 10GB is usable.
There's a good explanation for the "discrepancy" on memory.
Before I explain, you need to know that the manufacturers have not lied about the space they are offering. It's a good play of words.
First, there is a difference between,
A gigabyte and,
A giga byte.
The former is the actual term for that memory band.
The latter is simply a play on 10^9.
A gigabyte is 1024 megabytes. And a megabyte is 1024 kilobytes. And lastly, a kilobyte is 1024 bytes. Multiply that: 1024^3 and you get:
1,073,741,824 bytes.
So a gigabyte has 1,073,741,824 bytes.
You would think manufacturers would give you the full amount of bytes in each of their gigabyte.
Wrong, they simply adopted that a "GB" =
1 x 10^9 bytes. In other words,
1000000000 bytes. Which is technically true.
Since its standard notation that,
Kilo=1000
Mega=1000000
Etc...
Now that you know how they purposefully misled you, but not illegally, you can calculate your own true memory space in byte form.
Take your 16,000,000,000 and divide it by 1,073,741,824
Your magic number becomes
14.9011611938
That's the amount of real gigabytes you have.
Then there's the OS.
Try it yourself with your PC hard drive. There is always ~6.9% "discrepancy".
My HDD sells as 500GB,
In reality, I get 465 gigabytes.
This applies to all flash memory, hard drives. Also includes your SD card.
Firms also use it to advertise Internet speeds. In this case they like to use megabits instead. Where a byte = 8 bits.
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II
There's also a 1.3gb system cache partition which is largely free, Amy idea why it's so large?
Sory if this is ot but Can i ask - do i need to install antivirus for the note 2? Pls bear with me as this is my very first android device 
Also is it safe to download torrents directly into the note2? Using the utorrent app
Thanks!!
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Sort of....
D4rkShadow said:
i have 10.36 gb free space too. all Note 2 have that much free space
OS eats up lots of memory
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Well your partly right, I have the not2 i317 and i have 11.07 gb total space..my point here is that its not that all phones have 10.36 its that your rom and kernal does take up space, however it depends how big they are
bluekaze21 said:
Sory if this is ot but Can i ask - do i need to install antivirus for the note 2? Pls bear with me as this is my very first android device 
Also is it safe to download torrents directly into the note2? Using the utorrent app
Thanks!!
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You should probably ask that on a different thread since this has nothing to do with the op posted qustion, But ill answer, I need more posts up anyway gotta get rid of this junior member thing haunting me on my left, anyway, Do you need an anti-virus...no, i don't use one, the amount of Linux viruses are very low, but if you want to be safe then go ahed and get it. Are torrent is safe using the utorrent app. Well the app itself doesn't make them safe it depends on what you download, uploaders can upload good files, or they can upload harmful ones, you gotta be careful, and honestly ive had bad luck with the android utorrent app anyway, I use torrents on my computer there is really not much need to use them for your phone as most app sizes are pretty small and download quickly, and you can find most apps online just searching for the apk's if you fail or don't want to use the market...hope this helps, and apologize to everyone else for responding to an off topic post, and also doubble bumping an old thread
kidbrax said:
hmmmm im just wondering why it shows my total storage is at 10.xx gig only and free storage is at 9.xx gig when it should be 16 gig total and less than that when you install apps....and i just got my phone today....enlighten me please....
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You should see what dr.ketan explain here if you wanna know
As the title says is there any chance a very light rom could be developed? I'm still fresh with HTC but I notice that the system software etc takes up a hell of a lot of the "available" storage. I wish they wouldn't advertise phones as having X internal memory when half of it is actually needed for the whole system itself.
I'm still used to my old galaxy s4 where some light roms only took up a few GB's of the internal memory.
Cheers for any feedback
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As the title says is there any chance a very light rom could be developed? I'm still fresh with HTC but I notice that the system software etc takes up a hell of a lot of the "available" storage. I wish they wouldn't advertise phones as having X internal memory when half of it is actually needed for the whole system itself.
I'm still used to my old galaxy s4 where some light roms only took up a few GB's of the internal memory.
Cheers for any feedback
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I could be wrong, but I think that's due to partitioning and not necessarily having a "heavy" rom.
Well between 12-15 GB is a lot to lose from a phone advertised as 32GB memory lol. I understand that a certain amount will ALWAYS be set aside for the system itself, just seems like a huge chunk.
It's just a shame that there aren't any options for reducing this by much. Or if it's even possible. Perhaps I'm just used to teeny tiny rims with my galaxy lol.
There are no Light Roms that I've seen for the M9.
The only thing I could say is install LeeDroids ROM and in aroma check mark all the apps that you don't want installed..
Buy again not really the answer to your question..
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You'll have a light ROM in cm12. Once its been fixed. In regards to sense, the vast majority of the ROM can be removed using titanium or during install using aroma. Sense has always been quite chunky, unfortunately there's no real way around that, a desensed ROM has been available for pretty much every HTC phone I've ever had so I guess it probably won't be too long before one becomes available for the m9 too.
As for the amount of storage available, no disrespect but its a 32GB phone with external storage as an option! Why would you need an extra GB? As opposed to the s4 you will have more memory even when you've fully loaded your ROM with apps.
I think the system bloat would be a huge issue except for the external sdcard. With it, it's close to a non-issue.
I have a 32GB external card. I keep my music, twrp and tibu backups, and photos on the external card and leave internal storage for system, apps, and roms. Works just fine.
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I think the system bloat would be a huge issue except for the external sdcard. With it, it's close to a non-issue.
I have a 32GB external card. I keep my music, twrp and tibu backups, and photos on the external card and leave internal storage for system, apps, and roms. Works just fine.
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Pretty much the same for me, I have the Samsung evo 64gb with 8 gb music and a couple small movies and TV shows and it's only half full.
While the phones storage has over 14gb free
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I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms
tomorio said:
I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms
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The phone supports up to a 200gb ex_SD card. The 64gb are the most affordable for the size. Many here use a 128gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=i...d&rh=i:computers&sprefix=200+gb+micro+sd+card
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tomorio said:
I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms
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Why are your backups so big? Mine are just over 6 GB.
clsA said:
The phone supports up to a 200gb ex_SD card. The 64gb are the most affordable for the size. Many here use a 128gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=i...d&rh=i:computers&sprefix=200+gb+micro+sd+card
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If it's confirmed to support up to 200GB I know what my next purchase is
jollywhitefoot said:
Why are your backups so big? Mine are just over 6 GB.
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System around 4-6 and data round 4-6 GB's. I like to be able to pick up where I left off.
tomorio said:
System around 4-6 and data round 4-6 GB's. I like to be able to pick up where I left off.
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Are you backing up system or system image? In normal backups you don't need to backup system image, you just need system, data and boot. My system backup is under 2 GB.
jollywhitefoot said:
Are you backing up system or system image? In normal backups you don't need to backup system image, you just need system, data and boot. My system backup is under 2 GB.
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No system image no.
My backups are about 10-11 gb. I do have a lot of apps installed. I'm sure that's part of it. 2 gb alone are probably accounted for by Real Racing and Asphalt 8.
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iElvis said:
My backups are about 10-11 gb. I do have a lot of apps installed. I'm sure that's part of it. 2 gb alone are probably accounted for by Real Racing and Asphalt 8.
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Good to know. I figured user apps would be in the data portion of the backup and not system, though. How big is your system backup file?
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Good to know. I figured user apps would be in the data portion of the backup and not system, though. How big is your system backup file?
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I think about 2gb. Most is definitely data.
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I think about 2gb. Most is definitely data.
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Ok. Yeah that's how mine is. I don't understand why @tomorio would have 4-6 GB for system which makes me wonder if there's something screwy with his install.
jollywhitefoot said:
Ok. Yeah that's how mine is. I don't understand why @tomorio would have 4-6 GB for system which makes me wonder if there's something screwy with his install.
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No idea. Just double-checked my latest. System is just under 2 GB, data is about 8 GB.
Hello, I was hoping current owners of the Pixel C could tell us potential buyers what the actual available storage is with this tablet if you go to storage, in the settings menu. I'm personally interested in the 32 GB model, but it doesn't hurt to get info on both sizes. Thanks so much!
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Hello, I was hoping current owners of the Pixel C could tell us potential buyers what the actual available storage is with this tablet if you go to storage, in the settings menu. I'm personally interested in the 32 GB model, but it doesn't hurt to get info on both sizes. Thanks so much!
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My 64GB model reports 52.88 of user available storage. As for your poll, I'll add my own answer: "No, that's what my 128GB Nexus 6P is for (of which 75GB is filled with music)."
charesa39 said:
My 64GB model reports 52.88 of user available storage. As for your poll, I'll add my own answer: "No, that's what my 128GB Nexus 6P is for (of which 75GB is filled with music)."
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Same here.
Thanks for the replies, guys. Anyone with a 32GB wanna chime in?
Also, does anyone know why it issues SOO much storage? That's more than I was expecting, to be honest. It's a skin-free OS, after all. And there's no cell connectivity.
The usual reasons apply. 64gb is not the full 64gb as all figures are rounded down to zeroes. The zip/tgz file is compressed and expands when unpacked and all the boot and system files are put into place. This all needs a swap file capacity to work within and that to update system apps. My 64gb N6P has a similar available storage on initial boot.
24.22 for 32gb
vanydotk said:
24.22 for 32gb
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Awesome, thanks for letting us know.
kboya said:
The usual reasons apply. 64gb is not the full 64gb as all figures are rounded down to zeroes. The zip/tgz file is compressed and expands when unpacked and all the boot and system files are put into place. This all needs a swap file capacity to work within and that to update system apps. My 64gb N6P has a similar available storage on initial boot.
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I never thought much about reserved, needed empty space for those types of operations. But I think of my 2012 N7. 32GB, and 28GB are available. That was one of the perks of a Nexus compared to, say, a Samsung. I just feel like that isn't the case anymore.
I'd like to know exactly how much storage is available for the installation of apps.
I'm in the middle of restoring mine and Already Installed 90 apps and have 44.37 GB available
System has around 30gb locked up for it. My internal storage has around 220gb....
My system is 12.61 gb. Nowhere near 30
28.67GB for 256gb model. I think if you have a lower storage model the system reserve is lower.
AZwldcats said:
My system is 12.61 gb. Nowhere near 30
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64gb model?
Huffy1 said:
28.67GB for 256gb model. I think if you have a lower storage model the system reserve is lower.
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Why is there only 28gb available for apps when there's 256gb of storage? Shouldn't it mostly all be available? I know Oppo's color OS had this issue, but they did an update where you could merge partitions. Why is ASUS not letting apps use more of the storage? Is this common with ASUS?
I have a Moto G4 with 32GB. 6GB of that is used for the Android OS leaving 26GB remaining. According to the stats I have 20GB available to apps and whatever else I want.
pacattack81 said:
Why is there only 28gb available for apps when there's 256gb of storage? Shouldn't it mostly all be available? I know Oppo's color OS had this issue, but they did an update where you could merge partitions. Why is ASUS not letting apps use more of the storage? Is this common with ASUS?
I have a Moto G4 with 32GB. 6GB of that is used for the Android OS leaving 26GB remaining. According to the stats I have 20GB available to apps and whatever else I want.
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Sorry my bad, 28.67GB is system reserved (Android OS). 227GB is available for apps. After non removable presinstalled Google and Asus apps I believe it's about 220gb free for your own apps.
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Sorry my bad, 28.67GB is system reserved (Android OS). 227GB is available for apps. After non removable presinstalled Google and Asus apps I believe it's about 220gb free for your own apps.
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Thanks. How do you like the phone so far? How is the camera? Would you mind posting some sample pictures indoors and outdoors? Thanks
pacattack81 said:
Thanks. How do you like the phone so far? How is the camera? Would you mind posting some sample pictures indoors and outdoors? Thanks
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Here is a few of mine from yesterday
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Here is a few of mine from yesterday
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Cool. Thanks.
I'm in the middle of restoring mine and Already Installed 90 apps and have 44.37 GB available
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You have the 64GB model?
jaywhy13 said:
You have the 64GB model?
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Yup
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Here is a few of mine from yesterday
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You are horrible at taking pics..lol. My pics look way better than those. Here are two I just took. One is with everylight out and just my TV on and the other is with all the lights on. Low light on mine looks great