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Hi everybody,
I am considering to buy this phone, (rmn8 pro), however it ships with the mediatek G90T processor. in the past my understanding was that ROM development for mediatek based phones is troublesome due to missing sources. Can anyone confirm this issue for me?
Would it therefore be better to buy the non pro version of rthe rmn8 shipping with an snapdragon 655 processor?
Yeah I'd like to know it too.
OK - so it seems that if we want custom ROMs we should go with the non pro version.
Based on xiaomis history and the development activity for the redmi note 3 snapdragon and redmi note 3 mediathek there is a considerable difference.
Furthermore it appears that it took 3 years for xiaomi to release the kernel source for the rmn 3 and the rmn 2 mediatek version. In general it appears that the source release is up to the OEMS - e.g. Xiaomi. Mediathek is known to only distribute the source to customers or people who are willong to pay.
This is kind of disappointing as the pro version of the rmn8 is quite a bit better.
Any other opinions ?
I want the pro version but mtk processor no way ill be buying as I want gcam and custom roms.
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
CO.Wildfire.OL said:
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
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That could be the case, but I guess it won't happen as they try to create some hype around the new helio chips.
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
The phone is very, very good
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
kounir said:
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
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The problem is that MTK doesn't fully release the sources of their SoC's that's why it has low development here in XDA.
xhqsjzs999999 said:
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
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Have you got the phone
n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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nicflack said:
n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
naser_cbe said:
Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
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Well about development, sure note 7 Pro may have better Dev support coz it's an older device but as far as gcam support is concerned, you may be wrong, I'm using note 8 and it's working flawless. At least it's giving much better camera results when compared to poco
girishjangir7 said:
Have you got the phone
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Not sure whether the guys who ordered online received or not. I got the device from an local Mi store on the sale day itself.
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
dunklesgemut said:
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
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Can u check guides section we need some testers for POSP
You could always try a gsi
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
zaiross said:
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
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U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
girishjangir7 said:
U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
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So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
zaiross said:
So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
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No problem then wait for someone to test
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No problem then wait for someone to test
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https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-8-pro-custom-rom-kernel-developers/
this happened over 2 months ago and yet there is nothing. "need for testing" hmm okay.
Is it because of the Mediatek chip and them not sharing code?
It seems like there will not be any stable enough custom roms for this phone even tho it was realeased 4 months ago, there is still nothing.
Makes me a bit sad. So great specifications but no custom roms. Damn Mediatek! [if its their fault]
@zaiross At the moment, the main problem is a bug that results in hard brick which can only be recovered by a service centre that has an account authorized to flash in EDL mode (the lowest level of service/flash protocol, even lower than Fastboot). So no development because if a ROM Dev causes the hard brick, they have to pay a fee to service centre to get reflash using EDL.
Also does not help that MediaTek seem not interested in the smaller development community. MediaTek have said they are not interested in a similar partnership with the Linux Code Aurora community that Qualcomm works with. It's a pity they're not interested as I believe it would help increase popularity of MTK chips and increase sales over time.
a programmer could modify sp flash tool so it would bypass asking for authorized account. that would be worth to achieve smth for long time than paying services for bricks
I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
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I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
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thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
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Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
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This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
ariber14 said:
This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
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Since when does Xiaomi claim to support custom roms from the community with any of their phones??
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8T seems nice enough.. It has Qualcomm chip in it. Should people with Pro switch to that for example? Or perhaps Xiaomi Redmi K30, Realme X2 or Oppo K5 ....
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro seems great because of specs but MIUI really sucks ass, and like ariber14, i too bought this phone in belief of getting a custom rom to it sooner or later. :/
RenatoNismo said:
thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
I am still using Redmi Note 2, my next phone will be Snapdragon only, no more bullsh* of development like customs, gcam, bootloader and xiaomi.eu etc. etc.
in 2015 Helio X10 was promising like G90T was at the launch date, as always like the whole story of every mediatek devices, RN2 was enough for me to learn lesson, but it's good for daily use, even without customs neither gcam which I need, I could waited for months and paid more money for redmi note 3 pro, it's still being developed.
my gf's Redmi 5 is 2 years old cheapest, is being updated and has gcam night sight working better than rn8pro
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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I just got my OnePlus 5T working so I'll be using that as my daily and my Moto X4 for music. I'll probably keep this until next July and sell it so i can pool in some cash from my bonus and get whatever the flagship OnePlus out at that point. But if i was to make a purchase now, I'll probably avoid XIAOMI altogether. I've been looking into the ROG phone 2 specially since it's not expensive comparing to some other flagships. I'll probably go for that.
Halasir said:
I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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It's not, especially when you can just flash a GSI to it.
I have gotten Havoc to work via GSI.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...uide-how-to-unlock-root-flash-gsi-to-t4037403
I know, on paper, its no contest, But I am trying to decide between Redmi Note 8 and Poco F1. The difference between them is only £40
These are the important factors for me, the first 4 are must haves.
Good Battery life
Good Custom ROM support (now and future)
Headphone socket
SD Card
Notification LED
Reasonable Screen
Reasonable performance, (no gaming and was content with Redmi 5 Pro 4Gb Snapdrgon 636 until it broke)
I know the Poco F1 is much higher spec, but I dont really like the look (ugly cut out at the top and big bezel at the bottom). Plus because Redmi 8 is newer, I thought maybe better support for custom roms, in the future.
What do you think ?
Hi,
I had the Pocophone F1 and I now have Redmi note 8. Yes the F1 is faster but the notch is awful. The reason I sold it was because of the notch. Redmi note 8 ROM support is really ramping up and the teardrop notch is so so much better because android notifications were hard to see on the F1. Save the money and get the note 8.
Cheers dude.
I had used poco F1 ,now I have redmi note 8 ,forget poco F1 which I sold it after 2 months
Out of interest, what did you like on Poco and what is better on Note 8 ?.
Thanks
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Out of interest, what did you like on Poco and what is better on Note 8 ?.
Thanks
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Poco F1 was okay, tbh I didn't really like anything about it other the the SD845. Redmi note 8 is good so far with pixel experience Feb build. MIUI is something I've never liked but my favourite android is stock always, I love it's simplicity.
Cheers.
I currently have the budget to buy a phone in the prices of the Redmi Note 8 and the Redmi Note 9, I am really into custom roms and I'm currently leaning into buying the Redmi Note 8 just because of it. Will the Redmi Note 8 still be supported by the developers here in the long run or are a lot of them transitioning in buying the new Redmi Note?
In my experience the redmi line have developer support during several years. My last phone was a redmi 5 plus (vince) and even today there are quality custom roms available (but there are not many options anymore). I bought a RN 8 recently and I think it is still a good device, especially considering that RN9 has a mediatek processor and the development for that device is going to be harder. Sorry for my bad English btw.
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In my experience the redmi line have developer support during several years. My last phone was a redmi 5 plus (vince) and even today there are quality custom roms available (but there are not many options anymore). I bought a RN 8 recently and I think it is still a good device, especially considering that RN9 has a mediatek processor and the development for that device is going to be harder. Sorry for my bad English btw.
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appreciate it, my brother just bought a Redmi Note 9, I'm not really feeling the size of the phone, plus I don't think there's going to be much development because of the processor? I guess I'll just go with this, the roms with the RN8 seems pretty great.
Take into consideration that Xiaomi is really delaying updates for this phone, even Redmi note 7 got updates sooner.
Specs wise I would like to get OnePlus 11 but I've been seeing some info that maybe custom roms won't be coming. Any guidance is appreciated.
The Pixel 7 Pro definitely has more development. OnePlus made it difficult to recover from bricking so many developers have passed them up. A OnePlus 11 running LineageOS or AOSP based ROM would be amazing though.
Get a OnePlus 9 Pro. Comparable CPU, faster GPU with better support than Mali, display is kind of a wash (it's dimmer on the OnePlus but people tend to think the colors are better than the Pixel 7 Pro), much better modem, $600 new on Amazon or you can get them pretty cheap on Swappa and there are a ton of custom ROMs as well as unbricking tools available in case you need them. Don't buy the T-Mobile model though, you'll be hating life. Just get the regular unlocked model, LE2125.
Peep the OnePlus 9 Pro forum and see just how much dev support the thing has.
OnePlus 9 Pro
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a 6.7" phone with a 1440x3216p 120Hz display. The Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 chipset is paired with 8/12GB of RAM and 128/256GB of storage. The main camera is 48+8+50+2MP and the selfie camera is 16MP. The battery has a 4,500mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
If you want privacy, Pixel 7 Pro with Graphene OS.
Oneplus 9 pro is still great.
So far nobody is recommending OP11. So you guys don't feel very confident about OP11 custom rom prospects?
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So far nobody is recommending OP11. So you guys don't feel very confident about OP11 custom rom prospects?
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Not without a recovery tool being available. Just look at the 10 Pro and 10T before it that didn't have one either.
As long as there is nothing like MSM Tools, noone will recommend Oneplus'es new flagship phone Oneplus 10 Pro upwards.
OnePlus 9 pro seems like it'll be the only OP device with support for ROMs. I like the 9 pro. It's been a good phone. Soon as I can sell my S22 ultra I'll be going back to it more than likely.