It's early days, as the Redmi K30 4G only launched in China a few days ago, but it seems to be the "Qualcomm Snapdragon equivalent" of the MediaTek Redmi Note 8 Pro in terms of specifications, and it seems as though they will be similarly priced; although this will vary between regions, and I am assuming the Redmi K30 4G will be launched globally, which I can't find confirmation on yet.
Given how hard the XDA developers are working to try and modify the Redmi Note 8 Pro (GCam / Rooting / TWRP / Overcoming the hard-bricks that require an authorised service account), I'm concerned that when the Redmi K30 4G launches, it will overshadow the Redmi Note 8 Pro's development, because it will be easier to develop for the Redmi K30 4G.
May I have some of your opinions please? I realise I'm trying to predict the future a bit, but my argument above seems like a reasonable assumption.
It seems to me, that if the Redmi K30 4G gets launched globally (with the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 730G chipset), the two phones would directly compete, and would steal sales from each other? Unless I'm missing something, and there will be separate audiences for each phone, that would keep Redmi Note 8 Pro's development alive and strong?
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It's early days, as the Redmi K30 4G only launched in China a few days ago, but it seems to be the "Qualcomm Snapdragon equivalent" of the MediaTek Redmi Note 8 Pro in terms of specifications, and it seems as though they will be similarly priced; although this will vary between regions, and I am assuming the Redmi K30 4G will be launched globally, which I can't find confirmation on yet.
Given how hard the XDA developers are working to try and modify the Redmi Note 8 Pro (GCam / Rooting / TWRP / Overcoming the hard-bricks that require an authorised service account), I'm concerned that when the Redmi K30 4G launches, it will overshadow the Redmi Note 8 Pro's development, because it will be easier to develop for the Redmi K30 4G.
May I have some of your opinions please? I realise I'm trying to predict the future a bit, but my argument above seems like a reasonable assumption.
It seems to me, that if the Redmi K30 4G gets launched globally (with the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 730G chipset), the two phones would directly compete, and would steal sales from each other? Unless I'm missing something, and there will be separate audiences for each phone, that would keep Redmi Note 8 Pro's development alive and strong?
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While i don't see how endeavours that already has taken place to jumpstart development on this device will stop in favour of a better device, if the K30 4G is priced just right, i see a lot of people comparing the Note 8 Pro to the K30 before deciding. This phone is nothing but convincing in every way other than potential development so most people WILL select the Note 8 Pro but for the ROM junkies like me, the K30 will be the better purchase. This will at the end of the day mean less people using the device. Less users = less testers. Less testers = less new development. Simple as that.
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While i don't see how endeavours that already has taken place to jumpstart development on this device will stop in favour of a better device, if the K30 4G is priced just right, i see a lot of people comparing the Note 8 Pro to the K30 before deciding. This phone is nothing but convincing in every way other than potential development so most people WILL select the Note 8 Pro but for the ROM junkies like me, the K30 will be the better purchase. This will at the end of the day mean less people using the device. Less users = less testers. Less testers = less new development. Simple as that.
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Thank you very much for your opinion and feedback on this topic Helhound0.
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I'm thinking about upgrading to a Redmi 5; the smaller variant with a 5.7" display and Snapdragon 450 SoC.
The problem?
While The Redmi 5 Plus (Snapdragon 625) has a TON of ROMs and GSIs; not to mention the recent Pixel GSI based on latest Android Pie which got me drooling; and other guides and how to do's; The Redmi 5 'Vanilla' doesn't have all that support.
For the past few days; I'm trying to locate a Treble Enabled AOSP ROM; preferably running Android Pie but each and every query take me to Redmi Note 5, Redmi 5 Plus or Redmi 5 Pro's article. Have yet to see one for the smaller sibling...
That's just unacceptable! I think Redmi 5 Vanilla is a better phone for daily usage thanks to its smaller dimensions, right?
Now; I've no choice but to buy the bigger variant.
"unacceptable"
Well the Plus variant sold more units, therefore more people are interested in ROMs for it, more chances for devs for the device. Just because you like it more doesn't mean it's better, as for the size, as you can see, people tend to like bigger phones nowadays.
Moreover, the price difference between the two doesn't give the Redmi 5 a chance against the Plus variant, at least in my region.
Hi everybody,
I am considering to buy this phone, (rmn8 pro), however it ships with the mediatek G90T processor. in the past my understanding was that ROM development for mediatek based phones is troublesome due to missing sources. Can anyone confirm this issue for me?
Would it therefore be better to buy the non pro version of rthe rmn8 shipping with an snapdragon 655 processor?
Yeah I'd like to know it too.
OK - so it seems that if we want custom ROMs we should go with the non pro version.
Based on xiaomis history and the development activity for the redmi note 3 snapdragon and redmi note 3 mediathek there is a considerable difference.
Furthermore it appears that it took 3 years for xiaomi to release the kernel source for the rmn 3 and the rmn 2 mediatek version. In general it appears that the source release is up to the OEMS - e.g. Xiaomi. Mediathek is known to only distribute the source to customers or people who are willong to pay.
This is kind of disappointing as the pro version of the rmn8 is quite a bit better.
Any other opinions ?
I want the pro version but mtk processor no way ill be buying as I want gcam and custom roms.
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
CO.Wildfire.OL said:
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
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That could be the case, but I guess it won't happen as they try to create some hype around the new helio chips.
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
The phone is very, very good
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
kounir said:
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
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The problem is that MTK doesn't fully release the sources of their SoC's that's why it has low development here in XDA.
xhqsjzs999999 said:
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
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Have you got the phone
n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
naser_cbe said:
Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
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Well about development, sure note 7 Pro may have better Dev support coz it's an older device but as far as gcam support is concerned, you may be wrong, I'm using note 8 and it's working flawless. At least it's giving much better camera results when compared to poco
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Have you got the phone
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Not sure whether the guys who ordered online received or not. I got the device from an local Mi store on the sale day itself.
i am thinking to buy either redmi note 8 pro or poco f1 for a friend of mine.The poco f1 has a great support from custom rom developers but on the redmi side there has been some problems. Even miui.eu stopped supporting redmi note 8 pro and there has been some problems with twrp. So which is a better buy,redmi note 8 pro or poco f1.
I was thinking to ask the same. Since xiaomi.eu dropped support this week I am pretty sure this is dead device from that point of view. I am giving back my RN8 Pro to vendor and go with MI9 SE instead. Better display, better camera, smaller, lighter and for the same price..
Maybe GSI:s will work well for it. Seem to be some people that got them running.
i think no...if bricked its so hard to flash..need authorized account...this why no development
I was interested on this device but ended up ordering a regular Snapdragon Note 8. Mediatek just can't get it yet. Maybe in the future.
But yeah, for now avoid Mediatek devices if you want to mod then. It's a sad reality, and it has been true for many years. Hope it changes someday.
Hi guys,
I have the option of buying either the Redmi Note 8 or Note 8T at basically the same price.
Can you help me decide which one is best, taking in consideration the community support and rom updates for each? I ask because a friend told me that the Note 8 actually had better support.
Thank you
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Hi guys,
I have the option of buying either the Redmi Note 8 or Note 8T at basically the same price.
Can you help me decide which one is best, taking in consideration the community support and rom updates for each? I ask because a friend told me that the Note 8 actually had better support.
Thank you
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Note 8 is better if you ask me, lot of roms are unified, but some roms are 8 only. That would be enough, plus I think that 8 has notification led, 8T does not.
Your friend already gave you good advice, I am stuck with 8T because my mobile provider had only that model, otherwise I would go with 8 only and never PRO, as you are already aware of I think.
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Note 8 is better if you ask me, lot of roms are unified, but some roms are 8 only. That would be enough, plus I think that 8 has notification led, 8T does not.
Your friend already gave you good advice, I am stuck with 8T because my mobile provider had only that model, otherwise I would go with 8 only and never PRO, as you are already aware of I think.
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I am a noob in all of this, so I am yet to truly try to customise my phone, roms, etc. But I see myself doing it in the future and thus why it may be important to have a phone with an active community support.
Right now, I am trying to figure out what is the best option to buy in this price range:
Realme 6i (4GB ram, 128Gb rom)= 163€
Note 8 = 150 euros
Note 8 T = 156euros
Note 8T has the NFC which is kind of useful (and seems like a faster charger). Other than that, it seems that the Note 8 is more appealing to some due to the mentioned custom roms and Led notifications.
I would really appreciate if folks could just nudge me in the right way with these options.
Cheers
Other element to take into account :
Note 8 global version doesn't have LTE BAND B28 700Mhz
Note 8 international version and Note 8T have LTE BAND B28 700Mhz
if you don't need NFC get note8
the NFC chip consume battery
I currently have the budget to buy a phone in the prices of the Redmi Note 8 and the Redmi Note 9, I am really into custom roms and I'm currently leaning into buying the Redmi Note 8 just because of it. Will the Redmi Note 8 still be supported by the developers here in the long run or are a lot of them transitioning in buying the new Redmi Note?
In my experience the redmi line have developer support during several years. My last phone was a redmi 5 plus (vince) and even today there are quality custom roms available (but there are not many options anymore). I bought a RN 8 recently and I think it is still a good device, especially considering that RN9 has a mediatek processor and the development for that device is going to be harder. Sorry for my bad English btw.
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In my experience the redmi line have developer support during several years. My last phone was a redmi 5 plus (vince) and even today there are quality custom roms available (but there are not many options anymore). I bought a RN 8 recently and I think it is still a good device, especially considering that RN9 has a mediatek processor and the development for that device is going to be harder. Sorry for my bad English btw.
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appreciate it, my brother just bought a Redmi Note 9, I'm not really feeling the size of the phone, plus I don't think there's going to be much development because of the processor? I guess I'll just go with this, the roms with the RN8 seems pretty great.
Take into consideration that Xiaomi is really delaying updates for this phone, even Redmi note 7 got updates sooner.