Today I was trying Redmi Note 8 Pro (Global Edition) in the electronic shop, and since I'm planning to shot a lot of video with the device so I tried recording video at different resolutions and frame rates to look at the file size. Following is what I found out:
1. 4K 30fps h.264: 380MB / Minute
2. 4K 30fps h.265: 290MB / Minute
3. 1080p 60fps h.264: 152MB / Minute
4. 1080p 60fps h.265: 117MB / Minute
5. 1080p 30fps h.264: 153MB / Minute
6. 1080p 30fps h.265: 117MB / Minute
Results 1 & 2 seems fine and within the expected. result 3 came way less than I expected for 60fps video, but the shock was when results 5 & 6 came! how come both are the exact same size even the first is double number of frames! I'm used to the size of 150MB / Minute when record with my older Android phone at 1080p 30fps h.264 so that make results 5 & 6 acceptable. But what is wrong with 3 & 4!? there is something fundamentally wrong here. By the way how come iPhone can record 1080p 60fps and produce only 90MB / Minute, and on the other hand my future phone record same video using the same codec 2.265 for 117 MB /minute!? is Apple able rely more on it's powerful cpu to produce compress the video at real-time. Also I've noticed that 1080p 60fps recorded bt Redmi Note 8 Pro isn't as smooth as iPhone or Galaxy during play back!!!!
Its a budget phone. 60fps is working fine for me.
This phone is far cheaper compared to iPhone
Indeed it must not be compared to iPhone as a complete package, but 60fps still 60fps regardless which device record it. 1080p 60fps from galaxy 10 is as smooth as iPhone but both still far smoother than Redmi Note 8 Pro! I'm really suspicious about how Xiaomi is handling these files, if feel it's more or less 30fps with some tweaks. I'll get my hands on my phone in few days and I'll analyze 1080p 60fps more carefully even if it's required to go frame by frame.
I've just checked the following mobiles for 1080p 60fps and 30fps h.265:
Honor 9X
1080p 60fps H. 265: 160MB
1080p 30fps H. 265: 90MB
Samsung A70
1080p 60fps H. 265: 116MB
1080p 30fps H. 265: 74MB
iPhone XR
1080p 60fps H. 265: 90MB
1080p 30fps H. 265: 60MB
Mi 8
1080p 60fps H. 265: 119MB
1080p 30fps H. 265: 118MB
Mi 9T
1080p 60fps H. 265: 118MB
1080p 30fps H. 265: 102MB
It's clear now that 60fps in Note 8 pro is ok comparing to other phones, but seems the compression isn't working right in 30fps since 30fps and 60fps are the same size. 30fps must be around 80MB not 117MB. Anyone have explanation for this phenomena?
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Hi I currently have a Sony Z2 and HTC One M8, thinking of upgrading the Z2 to something better like the G3 or new S5 advance but I only have two questions that G3 reviews did not answer and they are:
1. How is the 1080P playback on the QHD display of G3. "The reason is that most steaming sites do 1080p and the ones than do 1440p are either of sub par quality or of a processed type. A call to one of the streaming sites confirms the same they have two video sources FHD and UHD there are no QHD sources"
2. How long does the 4K recording last? "My Z2 records 4K only up till 5Min which is crap and a complete joke had I known this limitation would have chosen something else, the 1080p recording is worse to HTC One M8 performance that is a slap on its face"
1. that review uttered a total nonsense any screen can playback whatever kind of res a video have as long as the hardware and software are up for the job, it's more depending on the source file itself.
nap007 said:
1. that review uttered a total nonsense any screen can playback whatever kind of res a video have as long as the hardware and software are up for the job, it's more depending on the source file itself.
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Its not that if G3 can playback 1080p its more of that how does 1080p look on a QHD screen. For example I have a Dell U2713HM with a 2560x1440 WQHD resolution but when I play a 1080p movie the quality looks less than on a Dell S2740L because the source and screen both are 1080p.
nonsense there is too many 720p contents on the web that still looks fine even on a QHD monitor...
Hello guys,
help me to sort something out.
I made a UHD video and FHD video. Both fps are 30. My PC monitor is 1920x1080.
How can it be, that UHD video quality is much much better then FHD? I say so, because my monitor is with FHD resolution (so it cannot reproduce UHD fully) and frame rate is 30 on both videos, so the quality should be the same, right?
Or I do understand something wrong here ?
Thanks!
An UHD downscaled to FHD video will probably appear sharper than a native FHD video when being displayed on an FHD monitor.
That's not very strange, imho.
Because FULL HD has only 17Mbps bitrate whereas 4K in Marshmallow has 46Mpbs, in Lollipop 30Mpbs.
I have read on multiple reviews and sources that I can record at 1080p at 120 fps and at 720p at 240 fps. However, when I go into the setting for video recording and select either 1080p or 720p I only have the options to select 30 or 60 fps.
Only my slow motion option has the option for 120 or 240 fps.
Is anyone else having this issue or are these reviews and sources all somehow mistaken? The fps at which video recording can utilize is much more critical than the resolution it records at. For instance, I would much rather record at 1080p at 120 fps than at 4k at 30 fps.
It's not an issue. Either what you read was wrong or you misunderstood what was written.
1080p 30/60 normal video recording and 1080 120fps and 720p 240fps slow motion is what the Pixel 2s can do.
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It's not an issue. Either what you read was wrong or you misunderstood what was written.
1080p 30/60 normal video recording and 1080 120fps and 720p 240fps slow motion is what the Pixel 2s can do.
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Maybe the many many post and reviews I have read we're just not very clear on what they meant. But that's pretty much what I was expecting. Was having a hard time wondering how I could miss such an important setting. Hopey come out with some software that can utilize these fps settings that this phone is obviously capable of doing (since it currently does 120 fps at 1080p but only in slow motion).
SamsungGalaxySDye said:
Hopey come out with some software that can utilize these fps settings that this phone is obviously capable of doing (since it currently does 120 fps at 1080p but only in slow motion).
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You do realize that you can record in slow mo and not actually edit the slow mo in, right? Just make the slow mo bracket super small, throw it at the very front of video or rear. Trim it out. Volla! 120fps 1080.
Another option is to use Filmic Pro. You can manually set resolution and fps.
Peylix said:
You do realize that you can record in slow mo and not actually edit the slow mo in, right? Just make the slow mo bracket super small, throw it at the very front of video or rear. Trim it out. Volla! 120fps 1080.
Another option is to use Filmic Pro. You can manually set resolution and fps.
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I tried this but the quality of video, seems to have something to do with the light exposure, suffers when in slow motion mode.
I don't want to pay 15$ for a camera app. I just want Google to release some software to really take advantage of the current hardware.
The camera is already so good and still has potential to be even better.
I love the phone though it's by far the most consistanly responsive Android I have ever had.
SamsungGalaxySDye said:
I tried this but the quality of video, seems to have something to do with the light exposure, suffers when in slow motion mode.
I don't want to pay 15$ for a camera app. I just want Google to release some software to really take advantage of the current hardware.
The camera is already so good and still has potential to be even better.
I love the phone though it's by far the most consistanly responsive Android I have ever had.
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That's natural for higher frame rates. The more frames, the more light that is needed.
There is no way around that except for manually adjusting exposure and ISO. Which can be done in Filmic.
What you seek is available to you.
What I seek is an update to the Google software, not a third party application that costs more money, because it's not sure a big deal that I want to spend more. I am patient and can wait. Also it's not that big of deal to me, I was simply inquiring if anyone knew a way to set the normal video mode to a higher frame rate than 60 fps.
hi, i found a deal on an s9 and wanted to know if the phone records 1080p 60fps video with stabilization enabled coz my current mate 9 doesn't and lately i record a lot of videos and at 30 fps the videos isn't up to my taste
Video stabilization isn't available in UHD (60 fps) and 1:1 resolutions. It is available in FHD (60 fps). UHD being 3840x2160 and FHD being 1920x1080.
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Video stabilization isn't available in UHD (60 fps) and 1:1 resolutions. It is available in FHD (60 fps). UHD being 3840x2160 and FHD being 1920x1080.
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Thank you
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Hi all.
I've been able to record in 1080p resolution at 120 fps through app called Ultracorder. As a bonus is encodes in H.265 codec which promises half of the byte rate when compared to the H.264 with similar quality.
Not sure if possible in free app (you can try) but I've been using paid version which after latest update allows to change fps and surprisingly I can set 240 fps (although it looks like 120 fps with doubling of the frames to reach 240).
Video looks super smooth and crisp when played at 25% speed.
No luck with higher resolutions, only 30 fps available :crying:
Looks like the 120fps on FHD is legit as there's notable difference when slowing down the vids on 60fps and 120fps. But the quality is still kind of bad lol. BTW Thanks.
Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
KUSOsan said:
Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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I believe the stock camera app is recording 240fps at 720p. But in a very very bad quality and cannot zoom. (Quality is worse than the sony recording 960fps)
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Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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Never mind. Thought you said Nexus 6.
peterko64 said:
Hi all.
I've been able to record in 1080p resolution at 120 fps through app called Ultracorder. As a bonus is encodes in H.265 codec which promises half of the byte rate when compared to the H.264 with similar quality.
Not sure if possible in free app (you can try) but I've been using paid version which after latest update allows to change fps and surprisingly I can set 240 fps (although it looks like 120 fps with doubling of the frames to reach 240).
Video looks super smooth and crisp when played at 25% speed.
No luck with higher resolutions, only 30 fps available :crying:
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Thanks for your post, I downloaded Ultracorder as well and made a video comparision between slow motion modes which I uploaded on Youtube and I´m not allowed to post because I have <10posts.
The internal slow motion camera always records on 720p 240fps with no options of changing the framerate, but you can choose the normal and wide angle lens. The wide angle lens footage looks worse than normal lens though.
In the Ultracorder App you can also choose 1080p with 120fps with the normal lens. It works fine and enhances the quality a little bit.
You can also choose 1080p 240fps but if you record with that setting, you get a file with 160fps and dropped frames. I thought maybe the memory write speed was too low, so I also tried recording it on my Sandisk Extreme MicroSD with the same result of 160fps.
In Ultracorder you can max. choose 30fps with the wide angle lens.
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The internal slow motion camera always records on 720p 240fps with no options of changing the framerate,.
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Are you sure this is true because my Nexus 6p actually gives you an option to choose 240 for slo more and it looks a lot smoother than the V30 slo mo. I'm pretty sure V30 only shoots in 120fps
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Are you sure this is true because my Nexus 6p actually gives you an option to choose 240 for slo more and it looks a lot smoother than the V30 slo mo. I'm pretty sure V30 only shoots in 120fps
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Yes, the footage is 240fps you can choose the playback rates
1/2
1/4
1/8
directly in the LG V30´s media player while
1/8* 240fps= 30fps playback rate
Also I inspected the file in windows and it was 240fps. My V30 runs on Android 8.0 security patch 1.9.18 I just received it yesterday
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Yes, the footage is 240fps you can choose the playback rates
1/2
1/4
1/8
directly in the LG V30´s media player while
1/8* 240fps= 30fps playback rate
Also I inspected the file in windows and it was 240fps. My V30 runs on Android 8.0 security patch 1.9.18 I just received it yesterday
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I realized why. Shooting in regular camera produces 240fps while shooting in wide angle mode only does 120. I'd been shooting slo mo in wide angle only.
And for some reason the new GCam (and the mods based on GCam v6.1) kinda ends up recording 1080p240 instead of 720p240 when you set it to 1/8th slow motions speed.... Even though i ONLY have a 720p240 entry in the media profiles, otherwise only 1080p120...
Playing that video then (which is generally already pretty damn dark) is also kinda laggy, so either camera or SoC arent capable of that
Could our lack of 1080p240 possibly be due to a hardware issue such as the write speed of the storage medium in use, or the method of connecting the camera to the SOC? I was thinking largely of these being essentially a computer at it's core, and if the storage devices aren't on a fast enough bus, it could lead to dropped frames. My other thought is if the camera is connected to a slower bus, then it would result in frames being dropped due to not being able to get the data transferred off the camera fast enough. Essentially a lack of bandwidth issue...