Battery drops as soon as fully charged - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion

If I have had my Note 10+ on charge all night, as soon as I disconnect it from the charger the next morning the battery drops down to 98% within the first few minutes without me using it.
It seems to last ok the rest of the day as I have around 60% left after 4h sot. I know it's not a big deal but my Mate 20 Pro would sit on 100% for the first couple of hours. It's probably just psychological, but it feels like it lasts longer when it doesn't drop so quickly.
I guess my slight OCD isn't helping which is why I always turn off the battery % in the settings so I can't see what it is, but with the Note, even if you turn it off you still see it every time you pull down the notification panel.

The battery calibration is just a bit off. My recommendation would be to ignore it.
A factory reset should reset the battery statistics.

Battery seems pretty good so far.

Biggenz said:
Battery seems pretty good so far.
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That's Android 9. I'm guessing you haven't upgraded to Android 10 yet? Wonder how's the battery on that

My battery percentage is similar. By the time I get off the pot in the morning, it reads 98%, that's generally anywhere 2-15 minutes in my estimation.

Mine too, I consider it as normal, the rest of the batt lasts as expected

Same here. But rest of the day Usage and percentages are still pretty good.
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to everybody with battery quick drop
this is normal because samsung implemented a new measure of battery security and not let the phone to mantain full charge for a long period of time ,
samsung staff tweeted this 3 months ago

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What is the battery life like on the first charge?

I am getting the phone for christmas and was just wondering if I have my parents charge it the night before, will it last me all day? What is battery life like on the first charge?
You'll likely burn through it pretty fast on a first charge. Best I know, it's not optimal until about 3-4 cycles.
Mine was pretty horrendous at first and then again for the following couple of cycles after that. Now on 4.0.2 and a number of cycles in and I think the battery life is stellar when you consider the screen size. Pretty similar to my GSII so cannot complain.
My advice. .. take the charger.
Regards.
I got about an hour of continuous tinkering after a 10 minute charge. Had to plug it in after that.
The first charge will be the longest lasting charge you will ever have on this battery - depending on your usage.
LiIons degrade a wee tiny little bit with every subsequent charge.
Thanks, I can't wait to get it.
Valynor said:
The first charge will be the longest lasting charge you will ever have on this battery - depending on your usage.
LiIons degrade a wee tiny little bit with every subsequent charge.
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While this is true, I dont think its calibrated the first time.
I got my nexus yesterday and charged it up from 50 to full and it was literally at 0% 10 hours later, today is a different story, I've been able to get about 12 hours of use out of it and have about 35% battery left
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While this is true, I dont think its calibrated the first time.
I got my nexus yesterday and charged it up from 50 to full and it was literally at 0% 10 hours later, today is a different story, I've been able to get about 12 hours of use out of it and have about 35% battery left
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Calibration only affects the battery icon, if they use poor logic to calculate the charge. The system can read battery voltage precise to 0.001 volts and it's actually quite easy to gauge a LiIon cell: 4.200 V = full, 3.600 V = empty (without load on the battery)
My first charge only lasted about 5 hours, and that was because I was playing with the thing the whole damn time. ;-)
My first charge
This is what I got on my first full charge. Was on Wifi for most of the time. Bluetooth was on often in the beginning to transfer files.
Used GPS for like. Facebook sync was off. Gmail, Google+ on. No Reader, Google Photos, Docs sync.
I bought the extended battery and it both were about 40% charged. You'll want to burn it down completely till it powers off, then give it a full cycle.
You'll kill it just by setting it up, playing some games, playing with the OS, reading XDA Rooting guides, taking pictures etc.
Just kill it, then put it on the charger while you get a shower and dressed.
...then you'll probably kill it again by the end of the day cause you can't stop plating with it.
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[Q] Battery charging regimen?

Is there a preferred battery charging regimen for the One X battery?
That is, is it better to, say, always let it drop to 15% and then recharge to 100%, or can/should I charge whenever possible, or in smaller increments?
Also, are there disadvantages to using the phone while charging (as I tend to do quite a lot )?
Thanks!
i normally let mine down to about 10% then just charge it too 100%
treebill said:
i normally let mine down to about 10% then just charge it too 100%
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Right, but do you know if this is actually the way to go with the Li-Po battery or are you, like me, just winging it?
When i first got my phone i let it run down till it asked for the charger, then left it on charge over night.
I did this for the first 3 or 4 times as i found this yields the longest battery life, since then i charge every 2 days regardless what percentage is left always over night though.
Going to leave it tonight & see if it will go till tomorrow night, its been off charge since 7am on Friday morning so far & is still on 46% a total of 39 hours so far.
anoniemouse said:
When i first got my phone i let it run down till it asked for the charger, then left it on charge over night.
I did this for the first 3 or 4 times as i found this yields the longest battery life, since then i charge every 2 days regardless what percentage is left always over night though.
Going to leave it tonight & see if it will go till tomorrow night, its been off charge since 7am on Friday morning so far & is still on 46% a total of 39 hours so far.
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You get two days on a charge? Are you a wizard? Although, having just got the phone (and possessing the patience of a 5 year old), I've done a lot of start-stop charging, which I suspect isn't optimal.
I'll try to refrain from trickle charging for a while, see how much difference it makes. Thanks.
Another battery charging thread? Just plug in the damn phone! It will take care of the rest.
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I have noticed that the battery does drain in strange amounts.
I have my wifi & gps on constantly, my phone went for 2 days 5 hours & i received a text at which point the phone was at 34% battery.
The phone was put back in stand by & the phone went totally flat in the next 4 hours, this i find strange as over night in stand by it only uses 1 - 2%.
There is obviously a bug in the way the phone reports its battery state, by my reasoning this must be some 10 - 15% lower than what it is reporting.
It does seem to have some difficulties reading the battery level correctly. I've noted a couple of times that it shows a significantly higher charge level (+5-7%) after a reboot. Which is hardly likely to recharge the battery. (Unless I got me one of those perpetuum mobile, in which case, yay!)

Battery remaining life decreasing after 100% charge. Theories...

Ok so after a hard reset and at 100% charge my HTC Radar says 1 day and 15 hours remaining. It has been like that for a few days. After about a week, 100% charge results in 20 hours remaining life. Eventually after a few more charges it averages at 15-17 hours remaining battery life. That is a big worrying decrease. These figures are always noted after a 100% charge and leaving it to settle for a bit.
So I started thinking what could be causing this decreasing stand by time?
Two theories:
1. It must be an app as I got excellent stand by time from a hard reset and with no additional apps so maybe a particular app is playing with the battery meter?
2. Could it be leaving the phone over night plugged in is doing something to the battery? Maybe I should unplug it as soon as it gets to 100%?
The strange thing is it can't be the actually battery degrading over time as the phone is new. Also, I have recently flashed a custom ROM to my Radar at a point when stand by time was at 15 hours at 100% and after the flashed ROM the standby time went back up to 1 day and 15 hours. Something is not right. It must be an app.
Any other thoughts/theories or anyone else in a similar situation?
Discuss please so we can all learn something to hopefully solve this problem for other handsets too!
My guess: calibration. The system estimates your runtime based on previous runtimes, that's why it's getting lower. Did your phone actually ever run that long, btw?
yes it did. very very close. i was amazed.
and does it now actually run out faster? I have noticed this on my ipod. It used to tell me 1h battery remaining and it would run for another 3h until i got home and another 2h the next day (when I noticed I forgot to charge). Also, are you using your phone more now? The biggest battery drain is the display.
Remaining battery life is estimated as follows:
Immediately after being removed from the charger is based on previous usage charging.
After this time estimate is based on current consumption.
In the first week after hard reset or install ROM the period are recorded in the system.
After a year of use of personal phone (HD7) and trying different rom and different settings for gps, 3g, edge, and light i found that the consumer eating large battery . After a more detailed study will say that is the main consumer.
Thanks for your comment Ovi but this is not about how the consumer is wasting the battery by usage. The question I raised was about how the standby time varied at 100% after a hard reset and after weeks of usage at 100%. The stand by time decreased without using the phone after a full charge. That is what is puzzling me. In theory it should be the same stand by time no matter how long the phone has been owned and the rate of discharge is due to usage - agreed.

Battery Life at 100%

Hi, My battery used to stay at 100% for at least 20 min with minor use after taking it off the charger. Now, it drops fairly quickly to 97% with the same usage. Overall I think I am left with the same percentage at the end of the day, but I was wondering if anyone else experienced this.
How old is the battery, are you leaving it on the charger for long periods after it's fully charged. Their longevity wears down so it's going to happen. But you can take some steps to stretch it out to the max. Mine goes from 100% to 95-96% in about 30-45 minutes right now
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Saintfyre said:
How old is the battery, are you leaving it on the charger for long periods after it's fully charged. Their longevity wears down so it's going to happen. But you can take some steps to stretch it out to the max. Mine goes from 100% to 95-96% in about 30-45 minutes right now
Wicked Stock Rom w/ Stock Kernel. No tweaks
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Thanks, Its about a month old. It is on the charger for at least several hours after its fully charged. Also, I am completely stock.
Just curious, is your device idle in the 30 min that it takes it to go from 100% to 95%? If not are you doing intensive stuff to takes it to 95%?
mikea3000 said:
Thanks, Its about a month old. It is on the charger for at least several hours after its fully charged. Also, I am completely stock.
Just curious, is your device idle in the 30 min that it takes it to go from 100% to 95%? If not are you doing intensive stuff to takes it to 95%?
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Yeah mostly idle, just running back ground tasks and such. Very minimal use.
Also I think leaving it on the charger for long periods of time reduces the life span of the battery as well. That's why it notifies you to take it off when it's fully charged. And I believe I read that somewhere else also.
But also if you leave it charging all night the phone may say 100% however the phone to prevent it self from charging the battery to long it stops charging it and let's it drain from 90% to 100% and slowly charges it back up. So as not to damage the battery. It keeps following that loop to keep your battery running longer so the first 10% can sometimes be misleading but it's nothing to worry about
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This was fairly common on the SGS2.
The common way to fix it on that device was to charge it to 100%, then unplug it and plug it back in and wait until it gets to 100% again. Do this 3-5 times and the problem should be gone. It is worth a shot on the SGS4
This can happen when flashing ROMs while your battery is not full, though this is not the only way for this to occur.
I like that last one. Gotta try it out.
The kernel stops charging at 100 percent and doesn't start again until it guys 95. What you're reading as your percentage level is not the exact levels
Say you unplug at what you think is 100 percent but in reality it's actually 98 percent, the software quickly relays this back to the user and adjusts the battery levels accordingly making you think it just drained 2 percent really quickly.
The whole reason it does this is to percent over charging the battery. That will greatly shorten it's life cycle or even worse blow up your battery
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Is the battery life normal or is this a serious problem?

I've a brand new Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite, but since a few days I notice that it seems that the battery is draining fast.
So I've done a test: I've charged my phone to 100% and used it until it turned off due to too low battery and it lasted 23 hours and 3 minutes.
But I doubt if this is normal and I'm kinda worried about it.
I've bluetooth off, and wifi is always on except when I go outside and then I use mobile data.
I use my phone for surfing, using social media, chatting, gaming, making nice pics and more.
So is the battery life normal or is this a serious problem?
is 23hr bad ? I feel like my one is always above 80% as it charges that fast I don't seem to notice the battery being low
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is 23hr bad ? I feel like my one is always above 80% as it charges that fast I don't seem to notice the battery being low
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I dunno
I haven't mentioned the standby time and the active time in the topic, and I cannot find that data anymore so that means I have to do the test again
I would advise to install AccuBattery app, fully charge the phone and look at screen off and screen on power consumption at the end of the day.
These numbers are "normal":
Screen off - no activity (over night or phone just laying down for a few hours): 0.2-0.3%/h
Screen off - the usual daily activity (moving around with the phone in the pocket, Whatsapp for web active, Google location tracking active etc.): up to 1.3%/h
Screen on - about 7-9%/h
I'll do another test on Friday as I said.
I'll charge the phone to 100% and use it until the phone turns itself off due to low battery and look at the active time then.
I'll post the results here if the test is done.
What were the results?
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What were the results?
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I'll tell it you once I've the results.
Today I've redone the test.
I charged my phone to 100% and I then I used it until it was 5%.
I got an active time of 5 hours and 27 minutes and the standby time is 18 hours and 1 minute
Googole said:
Today I've redone the test.
I charged my phone to 100% and I then I used it until it was 5%.
I got an active time of 5 hours and 27 minutes and the standby time is 18 hours and 1 minute
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My phone is pretty new and I am using it more frequently these days. This leads to similar battery times like you describe them.
I did not do the exact same discharging like you did, but imo battery drains mainly during screen-on time. Over night it is quite stable and only slowly discharging.
Maybe power consumption is dominated by the LED screen? This might be the reason why Xiaomi has such an aggressive screen dimming implemented...
I think what _mysiak_ is describing above, is pretty accurate and explains what you are observing.
Googole said:
Today I've redone the test.
I charged my phone to 100% and I then I used it until it was 5%.
I got an active time of 5 hours and 27 minutes and the standby time is 18 hours and 1 minute
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Unless your trying to calibrate the battery that's really stressful to the battery to use it like that.
Puts a lot of wear on it... fast.
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Unless your trying to calibrate the battery that's really stressful to the battery to use it like that.
Puts a lot of wear on it... fast.
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I know that, and I used to do that all the time but when I received my new phone I changed my habits.
I'm now trying to keep my battery level between 90% and 40% or 30%.
Googole said:
I know that, and I used to do that all the time but when I received my new phone I changed my habits.
I'm now trying to keep my battery level between 90% and 40% or 30%.
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I go with a maximum 80% cutoff.
My current target range is 45-72%

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