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Is one ever too old for a quality phone?

I hope not, because I just upgraded my 72 year old mother from a Nexus 5 to a OnePlus 3. Well, it's on the way.
I may not modify anything on the phone. However, I do have a question: Does OnePlus update their phones to the latest versions of Android often, regularly, or will she be lucky to see updates at all?
Thanks!

wvcadle said:
I hope not, because I just upgraded my 72 year old mother from a Nexus 5 to a OnePlus 3. Well, it's on the way.
I may not modify anything on the phone. However, I do have a question: Does OnePlus update their phones to the latest versions of Android often, regularly, or will she be lucky to see updates at all?
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Yes they update their phones fast.Op3 will run Android Nougat .edit.I mean faster than,let s say,Samsung.man o war is right.

JoshDaWhite said:
Yes they update their phones fast.Op3 will run Android Nougat .
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They are generally quite good regarding monthly security updates.
Regarding new android versions, it's not exactly the same. Oh, they will definitely update the OP3 to Android Nougat. Android O won't be out and you'll already have Nougat on your phone ! Amazing ! So fast ! :laugh:
Oneplus are certainly not the best regarding updates but they are probably not the worst.
Don't expect fast updates like Nexus.

Monthly updates are nice, if there're bugs , you may get 2-3 update per month. You surely get the Android N update, but with my experiences with OP1 and 2, you will have to wait 3-4 months after nexus, simply because you are running on a custom android- Oxygen( quite nice now) so they are worth waiting.
and remember you always have HUGE deverlop community here, OP forum &chinese forums( which you could have strange ROMs port ) , so dont afraid ,

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They are generally quite good regarding monthly security updates.
Regarding new android versions, it's not exactly the same. Oh, they will definitely update the OP3 to Android Nougat. Android O won't be out and you'll already have Nougat on your phone ! Amazing ! So fast ! :laugh:
Oneplus are certainly not the best regarding updates but they are probably not the worst.
Don't expect fast updates like Nexus.
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The OP3 is a shift for them. I think they're potentially going to change the game up on their whole paradigm simply based on the success of this phone. The public and media seem to be pretty fond of the OP3 at present, and Oneplus will need to maintain that momentum and keep their client base happy. If they're smart, they'll push Android M no later than Q4 of this year.

Considering buying this phone

Hey guys I've been researching about new phones since my asus zenfone 2 broke last month. So far I have only found these phones to my liking because I hate screens bigger than 6 inch and/or phones that are taller than 149 mm,: A2 lite, redmi6, redmi 7A and Nokia 5.1 plus
out of all these only nokia and a2 lite seems to be the best bang for buck, since I couldnt try nokia 5.1 plus anywhere in my coutnry : turkey, I decided to get A2 lite. I would buy 7a but the brand Redmi on the bottom of the phone is even more distracting than notch. Maybe if you have knowledge should I wait for A3 lite, if it will be less than 6 inch that is ?
My concerns are these:
- is the notch distracting when using, I have never used a notched phone before?
- for how long will this phone get updates, and is the android 9 experience stable?
- I have small hands and I wonder if this phone will be too large

I use this phone for about 4 months now. I received it with Android Oreo, but right out of the box I was prompted with the Android Pie 9.0 with April Update. The phone worked flawlessly except:
- a problem with UHC-1 SD card that was constantly unmounting and mounting that was fixed by a Class4 standard SD Card, apparently there is a problem with the power management for the UHC sd cards.
Pictures are awesome - former Sony camera user so I love the quality, the phone battery is great, 2 days minimum between charges.
The phone slightly heats up when used heavily but that is not a problem. Also gets a little warm while quick charge.
The screen notch is not a problem to be honest. It's like a normal FHD display without losing the upper part to the status bar, now with the icons placed to the left and right of the notch.
A new problem appeared this month, with the July update, when you rotate the screen from landscape to portrait the screen kinda blinks and then the animation continues.
Signal is good, wi-fi speed is ok, 4g works ok. Android 9 is stable so far for me, except the new glitch.
The big form factor of the device is not a problem to be honest, for small hands there are a few options. For example if you can't reach the status bar, you can enable the fingerprint swipe that brings notifications down and back up. From left to right, I think any small hands can reach.
Also for the accessories, the iPhone XR screen protector works just fine. And cases are cheap and good.

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The big form factor of the device is not a problem to be honest, for small hands there are a few options. For example if you can't reach the status bar, you can enable the fingerprint swipe that brings notifications down and back up. From left to right, I think any small hands can reach.
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This is the exact problem I was looking an answer for, thanks for the detail. I really find it hard to reach for the notifications.
One last question: will this phone get the android 10 update when released?

comstok said:
This is the exact problem I was looking an answer for, thanks for the detail. I really find it hard to reach for the notifications.
One last question: will this phone get the android 10 update when released?
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Yes. Android One project make the manufacturer to give 2 major updates and monthly security updates. Until now, every 20th of the month we get the current month security update and some bugfixes.
This phone already got a major update which is Pie. So the last major update will be Android Q so yeah, Mi A2 Lite is on the Android Q update list.

TheoXSD said:
Yes. Android One project make the manufacturer to give 2 major updates and monthly security updates. Until now, every 20th of the month we get the current month security update and some bugfixes.
This phone already got a major update which is Pie. So the last major update will be Android Q so yeah, Mi A2 Lite is on the Android Q update list.
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Do you think the A3 lite will be like this or bigger like 6.2 inch etc ?

comstok said:
Do you think the A3 lite will be like this or bigger like 6.2 inch etc ?
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Mi A3 specs here: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_a3-9769.php

Android 10 update

Any ideas if Samsung finally will update Android on their phones including the new Note 10/10+ fast this year? P30 Pro will have acces to Android Q Beta this September...any news for the Note?
Was a reason i moved away from Samsung phones, i really like the Note 10 + and i really want to purchase it but, can't stand waiting month for the new Android version...
So what you think?

Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest

winol said:
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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If timely OS updates is high on your priority list, you bought the wrong phone.
I have owned the Note5, Note7, Note8, and Note9. I recall the Note 8 update to Oreo occurred the April after it was released, and the Note9 Pie update occurred in February after it was released (carrier versions, anyway). So you're looking at Q1 2020 for the update.
However, half the time the Android updates contain things that Samsung has already had in their software for a year or two, so... it's not that big a deal. That said, I still am always super excited when it happens (so I get it).

I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.

Hazzay88 said:
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything

torickray said:
Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
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You are missing Android 10

really if you care about the android updates as soon as possible just go to a Pixel device. on the other hand just buy a phone you like and get the updates when they come, an android update doesn't really change a lot, a lot of what is added to the base android are features that are common among third parties, so for a device from a manufacturer like Samsung all the android update means is you get a bigger number and some of the phones features move from the Samsung UI to base Android.

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing Android 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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Software is important for EVERYBODY, what I tried to tell you is this: if you like/want a note10 device, it works fine as it is, it will update in due course, if the updates are your most uttmost concern, then a pixel would be the perfect choice for you, it is well known that samsung is never the first to issue updates, knowing this, better get something else

After seeing the YouTube video of One UI 2.0 over Android 10, I can't see anything that exciting. Android 9 (RIP desserts) runs great, and 10 looked like a very incremental update.

Just enjoy your phone you just got it . Q will come orob will get 10 and 11 . Let's get 9 working good before we think of getting 10

torickray said:
Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.

Belimawr said:
there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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I had the Pixel 2 XL and when the update came through my battery life improved which was already good but improvement in any department is good.

Why should you come to this forum and complain about Samsung update when you know how they work?
We all know the update will take some time to be available since the moment we buy it. We like this phone not because of the google update that we eventually will get, but because of the features that not available even with latest google update.
You should buy pixel and iphone then. Or huawei.

Exactly

I've only had one recent "need" for an android upgrade(Wireless android auto), just to find out that after we got it that google had restricted the feature to google devices. After 6 months of google claiming it was the Samsung's issue, even though no other brands worked either, they came out with a "beta" that enabled Wireless AA on other devices, no patches from samsung required.
There are so few important updates in Android these days, it's the least of my concerns.

hi, Samsung 10+ SM-N975U

hi everyone
I'm New here and my issue that I have Samsung Note 10+ SM- N975U ...4DTH7 and I noticed that My Phone stuck on Android 10 while other Phones around the world has been updated to Android 12
I tried many times to update my phone but every time it said that I got the last Update. So is there any way to update my phone to Android 11 or 12
thanks for your help

Flash manually with odin there is a thread in the guides section with the files you need

I would leave it on 10 until you get feedback on 12 from other users.
No huge reasons to update from 10... but there may be many valid reasons not too!
I have one that's running 9, one that's on 10; both are fast and very stable. Security is not an issue...
Scoped storage and forced encryption are fully active on 11 and up. These will use more cpu cycles and resources. Scoped storage will also screw up older apps that run fine on 10. All apps need to be compatible with 12 or it can cause system wide issues.

11 runs all apps just fine and 12 is pretty stable as well beeen riung the beta with no issues up grade to 11 and wait for stable 12 to come through ota

jolly_roger_hook said:
11 runs all apps just fine and 12 is pretty stable as well beeen riung the beta with no issues up grade to 11 and wait for stable 12 to come through ota
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So what doesn't work besides most older apps?
SOT is how much worse?
Hey I could be all wrong but I think 11 and 12 are wallowing ducks.
Android 10 wasn't a net wash but I still lost valuable functionality and troubleshooting tools to it. For what?
I'm running 2 N10+'s, one on 9, one on 10. I can easily see what was lost or gained. Goggle gestures is a complete bloody abortion, what a mess. Thankfully Samsung has numerous work around modifications and virtual nav buttons can be used.
Lol, which Galaxy themes work with 12?
Android 12 is puking on the flagship Pixel's... that tell you something?
If you upgrade using OTA you are boned if it upgrades the bootloader version (which it usually does)... no going back.

blackhawk said:
So what doesn't work besides most older apps?
SOT is how much worse?
Hey I could be all wrong but I think 11 and 12 are wallowing ducks.
Android 10 wasn't a net wash but I still lost valuable functionality and troubleshooting tools to it. For what?
I'm running 2 N10+'s, one on 9, one on 10. I can easily see what was lost or gained. Goggle gestures is a complete bloody abortion, what a mess. Thankfully Samsung has numerous work around modifications and virtual nav buttons can be used.
Lol, which Galaxy themes work with 12?
Android 12 is puking on the flagship Pixel's... that tell you something?
If you upgrade using OTA you are boned if it upgrades the bootloader version (which it usually does)... no going back.
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Each their own I guess. I personally think 12 is awesome with some tweaking.

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Each their own I guess. I personally think 12 is awesome with some tweaking.
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What features or benefits do you like with 12?
What don't you like?

Question OnePlus 9 Pro worth buying in August 2022?

Old users planning to keep few more years leave your feedbacks.

Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
Old users planning to keep few more years leave your feedbacks.
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I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.

Hey guys,
Just received a used 9 Pro LE2123 and I got it without any battery juice.
I am using the warp charger that is from this model and I noticed that the charging is super slow.
It came with Android C61 and I let it update to C62, if this plays any role.
Any ideas about what is happening?

Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.

abhijithpyd said:
Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.
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Why to do this?
The device was factory resetted when I got it.

Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.

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I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.
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Making Custom ROMs isn't my issue. The problem with 10 pro for me is not be able recover if got hardbricked (which I will do eventually) . We don't have any official stores in our country. And online services isn't really my thing. 10 Pro is 10$+ then 9 pro here. Still want to buy 9 pro over 10 pro cz of MSM mostly.

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Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.
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I guess after unlocking the bootloader and the full erase of data it should be fine.

op9pro could be a good phone for people living on social-media (nowadays the street-price is half of official price)
if you are flashotic or privacy-caring it's better thinking a bifferent device

Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.

AndyC76 said:
Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.
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what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?

Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?
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Current device is still OnePlus 9Pro 8gb. LE2123 c62. (UK)

Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.

RASTAVIPER said:
Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.
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Don't use Gmail app. I personally use Sugar mail and never missed any emails.

The 9 Pro continues to hold its own! Actually it's still pretty popular!

Personally in the US its one of the few options left available for those who like to really customize their devices. With spectacular battery life on customs (I've had mine about a month and get 8h SOT with some light gaming casually). I mean it doesn't get much better than this! Sure during heavy tasks it can get a little hot but that is slightly improving with OOS12 firmware. It will still reach those peak temps but seemingly not as fast. I got mine from Amazon as well for about $750 USD quite the deal! Using this device has be quite the pleasure. I'm definitely happy on Crdroid with BluSpark kernel. And since OOS has dropped the ball it means that OOS12 based custom roms will get nice custom kernel support which isn't normally there for a long time. Looking forward to the future of this phone!

No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)

davidfarah2003 said:
No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)
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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).

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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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Pixels have lacking support compared to what it used to be with the Nexus line up. There is some interest but it's mostly unofficial support that doesn't last for long and its nothing that you can rely on like with the OnePlus phones

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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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The biggest problem that puts people off the Pixels right now is the Samsung SoC and modem. Stupid decision on Google's part.