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Just purchased 2 or these today. Getting ready for my new Nexus.. I charged these up and to see if they are working put a Iphone 5 on the charger. Neither one of these chargers will charge this phone. Says on the site and the booklet that they support Iphone 4 and 5. Any thoughts?
Found the answer.
Models that Require a Wireless Charging Case / Cover Adapter:
Samsung Galaxy S4 i9500 use directly if the QI receiver built-in back-cover case of the phone, if not QI wireless receiver is required
Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300
Samsung Galaxy Note II
iPhone 4 4s 5
The 4 and 5 if I'm not mistaken does not have qi charging capabilities, I think you need the qi receiver case for the iPhone to work. It's for all the iPhone.
The device will only charge wireless if the phone supports wireless charging. The Nexus 5 will work out of the box, a Galaxy S4 you would need the special back cover they sell. It will not charge any iPhone wirelessly at all. Not unless you had a special back or piece that turns the iPhone into a wireless charge ability. It will charge an iPhone though using the usb cable, maybe thats what it means by charging an iPhone.
This charger is best of both worlds, you can keep it on your desk for wireless charging and take it on the go if you have a long day.
Amazon.com: LuguLake 6000mAh Qi - Enabled Inductive Wireless Charger Charging Pad; Portable Power Bank With A USB Slot
If the price were a little cheaper I would bite but I'm not sure it is worth the price? Someone who has the product want to convince me?
Too expensive for something made in china.
Typical external battery efficiency = 70%
Typical Qi efficiency = 70%
6000x0.7x0.7 = 2940
Expect the phone to charge less than 1.5 times if you use Qi for power.
You'd better use it as a normal external battery that can also be used as a wireless charging pad.
timothyung said:
Typical external battery efficiency = 70%
Typical Qi efficiency = 70%
6000x0.7x0.7 = 2940
Expect the phone to charge less than 1.5 times if you use Qi for power.
You'd better use it as a normal external battery that can also be used as a wireless charging pad.
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And this means?
wyrman said:
And this means?
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I believe he's saying you're better off using it JUST as a portable charging pack than for charging your phone at home.
wyrman said:
And this means?
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Since the efficiency is so low, if you want to use it as a backup battery, you'd better use a cord instead of using qi.
As a qi charging pad connected to AC, it's fine, though.
I just got this today;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Qi-Wireless-Charger-PAD-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Note2-S4-Receiver-10000mAh-Battery-/141047804367?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item20d71ab1cf
basically the same, a qi charger with a built in battery, but with 2 outputs.
great idea to have this as a qi charging pad at home and on a long day can unplug it and have an external battery pack charged and ready to go!
only downside is there isn't a light to show its charging the phone via qi.
I love this charger, IMO it's the best. Here is my review on it, highly recommend it.
I've been using this for a couple of months with my N4 and N7-2013, and it works flawlessly, though I can't speak to 'true capacity' as I've never drained it fully to test # of full recharge cycles it provides.
There's a slightly smaller capacity unit also available (I can't post links yet, but search Amazon for "Qi 4800mAH") that may or may not be a better option, the benefit of that smaller unit being, well, size, in that it is more pocket friendly. Though if you would also use your Qi for a tablet, the slightly larger footprint of the 6000mAH unit might be preferable.
How fast does these Qi wireless charging charges the phone?
I got the LuguLake charger Wednesday, and I must say at first I was impressed, however shortly after I was very, very disappointed. The flaws I have found, at least with the unit I purchased:
Does not charge a 2nd device while plugged into AC power
As of yet, I have been unable to get it to charge the internal 6,000mAh battery since I depleted it once.
I'm going to keep toying with it over the weekend, but either I got a defective model or I'm doing something wrong. Also, anyone with one of these bother to "read" the guide / warnings? I just have to remember not to torture the battery, and to be weary if it ever becomes smelly!
timothyung said:
Typical external battery efficiency = 70%
Typical Qi efficiency = 70%
6000x0.7x0.7 = 2940
Expect the phone to charge less than 1.5 times if you use Qi for power.
You'd better use it as a normal external battery that can also be used as a wireless charging pad.
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This math is incomplete and may not work. You're ignoring voltages. At what voltage does the 6000mah come out at? Assuming the standard 5V that the USB output is at is usually the wrong assumption for these things - they're often 3.3V. If that's the case, you need to step up the voltage as well.
Jaxidian said:
This math is incomplete and may not work. You're ignoring voltages. At what voltage does the 6000mah come out at? Assuming the standard 5V that the USB output is at is usually the wrong assumption for these things - they're often 3.3V. If that's the case, you need to step up the voltage as well.
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the 20-30% loss for standard power banks comes from exactly this in combination with any losses in the charging circuit of the phone.
I think the point is that you get crazy losses if you need to both change voltages, and do wireless charging from a limited power source.
keijikage said:
the 20-30% loss for standard power banks comes from exactly this in combination with any losses in the charging circuit of the phone.
I think the point is that you get crazy losses if you need to both change voltages, and do wireless charging from a limited power source.
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My bad, I gotcha.
Yeah, regardless the point is the same - this isn't the most efficient thing ever.
lc3necro said:
I got the LuguLake charger Wednesday, and I must say at first I was impressed, however shortly after I was very, very disappointed. The flaws I have found, at least with the unit I purchased:
Does not charge a 2nd device while plugged into AC power
As of yet, I have been unable to get it to charge the internal 6,000mAh battery since I depleted it once.
I'm going to keep toying with it over the weekend, but either I got a defective model or I'm doing something wrong. Also, anyone with one of these bother to "read" the guide / warnings? I just have to remember not to torture the battery, and to be weary if it ever becomes smelly!
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Don't forget to not put 'mental' on the charging pad. :cyclops:
I purchased one of these and sent it back. It worked great with the nexus 5 but I was never able to get it to work with the nexus7(2013) I believe I received a faulty unit. The customer service was great but it would just not work properly. I bought a "Maxboost Pulse 10000mAh Dual 5V 3A USB External Portable Power Battery Pack Charger with Digital Display (Piano Black) - Compatible with Apple iPhone 5S 5C 5 4S 4 ; iPad Air 5 4 Retina 3 2 1, The New iPad ; iPad mini retina 1 2; Google Nexus 5 4 7 FHD 2 ; Samsung Galaxy Note 3 , Galaxy S4 S3, Galaxy S4 Mini S3 Mini; HTC One M7 Mini M4 ; LG Optimus G2 ; Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 8.0 10.1 ; Kindle Fire HDX 7.0 8.9 ; Nokia Lumia 1520 1020 920 900 [3 Charging Connectors + Carrying Case Pouch]" from Amazon for $35 (had coupon code) and I am looking for a separate wireless charger
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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It will fast charge at a higher voltage on a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, but will work at normal speeds on every other Qi enabled device, including our moto 360.
Milimbar said:
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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I have not tried it but I would assume with how well the fast charge one works, the cheaper one should also work to charge out watches without overheating them.
Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
MonaSpencer said:
Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
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Just from experience, no science here.
A normal Qi charger will take about 2 times as long to charge your phone as a standard 2a charger.
This fast Qi charger is about the same speed on a compatible phone as a normal cable charger.
The fastest way to charge is with a qualcom certified quick charger and phone, that is significantly faster than a standard charger.
Think I'll pick one up,no overheating,that's worth it alone.
Hi.
I've came from a note 4 with fast charging to a z5p with supposed fast charging. The difference in battery capacity isn't too much. However, the z5 charges so much slower. I've tried multiple quick charge certified wall plugs and a quick charge 2.0 powerbank, the official wire and other wires as well as my old note charger plus wire.
Is this a fault in the firmware or a fault with the phone?
I get the results with the note what I expect. However with the z5 it feels like going back in time with a 'normal charger'
Mines been okay, I even have an Aukey fast charger and it's at the same pace.
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simbob86uk said:
Hi.
I've came from a note 4 with fast charging to a z5p with supposed fast charging. The difference in battery capacity isn't too much. However, the z5 charges so much slower. I've tried multiple quick charge certified wall plugs and a quick charge 2.0 powerbank, the official wire and other wires as well as my old note charger plus wire.
Is this a fault in the firmware or a fault with the phone?
I get the results with the note what I expect. However with the z5 it feels like going back in time with a 'normal charger'
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I've noticed that quick charging isn't as fast too...I have three quick chargers and all three have worked great for phones like the S6, Nexus 6 and even the Zenfone 2.....I'm going to run my phone down to less than 5% and then watch to see how long it takes to get to 100%. It could be due to the Z5 Premium having a very big battery (3450mah I believe)....My Nexus 6 seems to be the fastest to charge...I have seen it literally go from 10% to 65% in 20 minutes.
I'll try my luck this week and report back for you guys.
As an aside though, I've typically avoided using QC2.0 unless I'm super desperate. That kind of heat and power going to the battery just screams "device killer" to me. I've used it on a Nexus 6, HTC One M9, and a Z3 - same heat issues across the board. I think I'll be relying on my faithful Aukey's standard USB ports. (Aukey PA-T1 54W 5 Port USB charger, fwiw)
Please let us know. So far the assumed quick charge 2.0 is a let down. Be back off to Samsung if not sorted
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Please let us know. So far the assumed quick charge 2.0 is a let down. Be back off to Samsung if not sorted
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Not OP but been using the Z5P for the past few days... QC 2.0 is pretty fast, but not as fast as I expected it to be. As far as heat is concerned, I've had no issues from it overheating while charging.
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Not OP but been using the Z5P for the past few days... QC 2.0 is pretty fast, but not as fast as I expected it to be. As far as heat is concerned, I've had no issues from it overheating while charging.
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Sony is notoriously conservative when it comes to battery charging. For example the Z3 only used QC2.0 to allow more flexibility in charger cabling - battery current was limited to only 1.5A. With a normal charger you could only hit this if the screen was off with an extremely short cable, with QC2.0 you could hit it even with a thin (more flexible) MicroUSB cable with a right-angle connector that would cripple charging on most phones.
Probe not noticing the results as well with always being on the phone
I bought this one from aukey for €15,- and in dollars like $20
I purchased the aukey quick charge 2.0 charger. It operates fine with my old note 4. So I see this as Sony issue
The device is most definitely using QC2.0 for power input - my Powergen wall charger turns green when the Z5P is plugged in.
Edit: If I'm reading the kernel source correctly, charge current is 2.3A with no step charging. https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/ke...com/msm8994-kitakami_satsuki_common.dtsi#L986 - No way will you hit that without QC2.0 except MAYBE if the screen is off and your USB cable is 3 inches long.
Z5 non-premium is 2.1A with no step charging, Z5C is 2.1A below 65% and 1.5A above 65%
my z5p came with a 2.0 UCH-10 charger from sony http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/06/12/sony-uch10-quick-charger-coming-soon/
Thanks for the input. Any idea about the drop after 65%?
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Thanks for the input. Any idea about the drop after 65%?
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That only applies to the Z5 Compact. Smaller battery makes it easier to stress it. In general, rapid-charging a battery is far more stressful above 60-65% charge than it is below this, which is why so many companies specified "time to 60%" specs - because nearly all of them drop the current past 65%. The Z5P seems to be an exception - it has a lower charge rate (compared to the battery size) below 65%, but maintains this charge rate up to the CC/CV transition point (usually 80-85%).
Rapid charging past the CC/CV transition point cannot be done safely.
In the USA Samsung have a charging kit which includes a 45 watt charger. No sign of something similar in the UK. Anyone spotted the official or compatible charger. Thanks in advance.
Edit Sorry just seen another thread on this subject.
Any word of a mobile charger with the same wattage/charging power ?
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
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USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
scarygood536 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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Some advice on Note 10+ fast chargers in this article:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/08/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-fast-charging.html
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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That's exactly what I've been thinking too. I don't even own a wireless charger, have no need for it. When I need to charge my phone I just charge it with the reg. charger or plug it in, in the car. The existing fast charge technology is fast enough. I added that above post seeing that there is much interest in this subject.
I've heard that the N10+ stock 25W brick takes only about 1 hour+ to go from 25% to full. The 50W charger is just another 'hype', in my opinion, created by the phone manufacturers to show-off that they are on top of the best technology there is. And, of course, to get some extra revenue.
Edit: some reviews say it gets really hot.
This says it uses PPS 2.0, do you guys think it's legit?
DBPOWER USB Type C Charger, USB-C Charger with Power Delivery 45W/60W USB Wall Charger for iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, iPad Air 2/Mini, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, Galaxy S9/S8, LG, Nexus, Pixel, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM8ZWY3/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_-GyxDbPDPKPR0
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
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Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
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"We weren’t able to test the 45W Super Fast charger ourselves, but on 25W, our Galaxy Note 10+ review unit went from 5% to 60% in 30 minutes with the device turned on and the screen turned off."
I just bought my 45W samsung charger via samsung using my reward points. Total cost is $5 (tax) that I have to pay for out of pocket. Worth it for me.
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I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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Personally, I charge my device at least twice a day, more if I connect to my audio interface as that draws power from the phone. I also have the hotspot permanently turned on which can kill the battery really quickly.
Dont really care what it's doing to the battery as it'll be gone back to Samsung next year through the upgrade program.
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
I got the Ugreen 45w PD charger.
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Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
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Unfortunately even having a PPS charger doesn't do the trick - I have an AUKEY 60W charger with PPS and it is charging slower than the stock 25W
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Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
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Yeah that item on amazon now has a note:
- This charger does not support 45W fast charging for Samsung Note 10.
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You should be able to use most usb C laptop chargers to get the 45W power output, but it also has to have PPS as far as what I have understood. The original one will work of course and it's always the recommended choice - tough you may ask yourself if you really need it.
I bought one for travelling. When flying I have moments that I really have to charge fast. And as it may not be perfect for the battery I will just use it when flying.
I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I really would like to know more about it. I mostly buy a new one every year, and pass the "old" ones to my (grand)children.:angel:
So personally I am not interested in battery life
I bought a belkin QC4 PD charger. 27w. Chargers 50% in 35 mins. Don't buy cheap chinese crap and risk burning your house down.
First off: love this phone. Already selling my S21 Ultra. However, I found an issue that seems specific to the Pixel 6 Pro.
I have a ton of wireless chargers but most don't seem to push enough juice to even charge this phone. Which is weird, because they are capable of pushing at least 9W but in most cases, they don't even push 5W to the phone, even when the battery is <25%.
I have one fancy charger (moshi Sette Q) which can push 15W per coil--there I can max out at the Pixel's rated 12W if the phone is cool, but only until the battery hits 90 deg F. Once it exceeds that, the charging rate drops down to 7.5W or lower, and the predicted time to full charge more than doubles. Coincidentally it seems to hit that 90 degrees within mere minutes of starting the wireless charge. I'm measuring battery temp (not power) using AccuBattery, and power using various USB meters.
The same chargers, power bricks, cables push their max wattage to the S21 Ultra even if the Ultra is >50% charge. And just for kicks I tried my girl's iPhone 13 mini and it instantly hit its max charging power w/o MagSafe (10W, from what I can see). In other words, there's no specific evidence that there's any issue with my power bricks, cables, or wireless chargers. All are reputably branded and genuine parts and if they work with both the S21 Ultra and the iPhone 13 mini then you can probably rest assured they are not the problem.
So, it seems like the Pixel 6 Pro is doing some severe thermal throttling when wireless charging, and the upshot is that you barely ever get the full 12W Qi charging capability of the phone, and most of the time you end up charging at <7.5W.
Anyone else seeing this? If you're charging wirelessly, how's the experience? Does your battery hit 90 F in no time at all? Does it start to reduce Qi charging current once it hits ~90F?
If other folks are having a fine time wireless charging this phone, and you're getting that full 12W on the reg, I guess it's possible that I have a bum phone. Let me know what charger(s) you're using. But if you haven't noticed a problem yet, you might want to pay closer attention to your charging speeds to see if you're seeing the same thermal throttling.
If it's not just a bum phone, then this seems like a major issue. Big enough to force Google to delay the launch of their next-gen wireless charger, the new Pixel Stand.
I'm seeing the same. New Anker magsafe style charger is 3-4 watts... iOttie car vent gets it to 9-10...
Yes, same problem. I wonder if that's why we haven't seen the Pixel stand.
I'm using the original Pixel Stand and it seems to be charging at about 14W which is the max it can deliver.
I haven't noticed it getting very warm when charging but then I have been asleep
I have noticed a couple of times, lifting the phone off the charger in the morning, it was slightly warm. AccuBattery said it had been fully charged hours before that.
The phone is in a Spigen Rugged Armour case and I just leave it in it to charge.
how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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I'm using one of THESE and also have AccuBattery Pro.
One thing I found with AcuuBattery is it seems to assume the charging voltage is always 5V
So when I am charging it shows the current as 2.3A x 5V = 12.5W
Whereas the actual charge on the voltmeter shows 1.4A x 9V = 12.5W
Interesting. I just set my phone down at night on a fly-by-night brand qi pad I bought several years ago, and by morning the phone is charged full and ready to go. Don't know, or care, how fast it charges as long as its full by morning. The few times I've had to grab the phone after charging for a while, it hasn't seemed at all warm.
But I'm running on google-free nice clean AOSP. Might be that some of that google spyware is sucking up power faster than you can supply it?
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how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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No idea what speed this equates to. Only put it on the charger for a few minutes to see.
skimminstones said:
how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
yootech 3 in 1 Wireless Charging Station for Multi-Device - with 20W USB C Port & 5W USB A Port for Airpods/iPad, 15W Max Wireless Charger Stand for iPhone 12/SE/11 Pro/XS Max/XR,Galaxy S21/S20/S10: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy yootech 3 in 1 Wireless Charging Station for Multi-Device - with 20W USB C Port & 5W USB A Port for Airpods/iPad, 15W Max Wireless Charger Stand for iPhone 12/SE/11 Pro/XS Max/XR,Galaxy S21/S20/S10 at Amazon UK.
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The way I've been doing it is via a USB C power meter which is just in line between the wall wart and the wireless charger.
I also have a USBC cable that has a built-in power meter and I get similar results. Another thing you can do is just put the phone on charger you have, then go into settings and battery and just monitor the time estimate for charging. Do you ever see it advertise upwards of 3 hours of charging time or otherwise jump from something reasonable like 2 hours up to 4 hours?
It seems like there's two main problems. Number one that the wireless charging coils are extremely narrow compared to S21 Ultra. So the sweet spot is super small and difficult to find. Number two. Once the phone hits 90° f, then it is throttling the charging speed. And honestly, I don't know if that's a cooling problem or if that's just an overly conservative algorithm. Either way it's kind of ****ed up to advertise 12W wireless charging and then have this type of experience.
I've been using the app Inware to see the live amperage, wattage, and voltage.
Inware on Google Play
JohnKuczek said:
I've been using the app Inware to see the live amperage, wattage, and voltage.
Inware on Google Play
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Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about that one. I think the problem here is probably related to the overall charging limitations that the phone has. If you look at the other threads in this form, you can see quite a few that are related to slow charging speeds even when using the wall wart. But still this is extremely disingenuous from Google and straight up inaccurate advertising when it comes to charging speeds.
For those of you who have the old Pixel stand charger, IT WORKS !!!
All I want is a full charge by AM, and it usually gets a lil boost charge when I drive my sprinter.
About to look for a new wireless charger, but now using the 30 watt Google plug and cable and phone charges up faster than any I have owned previously, nearly all galaxies but the 6 Pro is noticably better, wired.