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Hey guys, just got a notification today for an Ota update got my Verizon g4. Should I take it or wait to see if a root method comes for this phone? I'm kinda starting to give up hope in root though. I'm guessing Verizon has successfully locked their phones down to the point where even the best devs can't crack them. What do you all think?

The phone hasn't been out that long. Root is coming as it almost always does eventually.
I've taken it and its a little snappier with better touchscreen response.

blkhrt13 said:
Hey guys, just got a notification today for an Ota update got my Verizon g4. Should I take it or wait to see if a root method comes for this phone? I'm kinda starting to give up hope in root though. I'm guessing Verizon has successfully locked their phones down to the point where even the best devs can't crack them. What do you all think?
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fr4nk1yn said:
The phone hasn't been out that long. Root is coming as it almost always does eventually.
I've taken it and its a little snappier with better touchscreen response.
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Never take OTAs. Wait for root, then someone can just add those updates into ROMs/flashing new firmwares.

blkhrt13 said:
Hey guys, just got a notification today for an Ota update got my Verizon g4. Should I take it or wait to see if a root method comes for this phone? I'm kinda starting to give up hope in root though. I'm guessing Verizon has successfully locked their phones down to the point where even the best devs can't crack them. What do you all think?
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Never take OTA's if you want root. You could be waiting longer if they patched an exploit. Don't know why anyone who wants root would take OTA.

I was tempted to take the OTA as well ... but I'm going to hold off a while. Ideally I'd be running CM 12.1 anyway...........
But is there a way to keep the Updater from the constant OTA reminder? This is going to get annoying.

CrustyMcLovin said:
I was tempted to take the OTA as well ... but I'm going to hold off a while. Ideally I'd be running CM 12.1 anyway...........
But is there a way to keep the Updater from the constant OTA reminder? This is going to get annoying.
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I know some people don't have it but some Like me so where if you go to system settings then updates it gives an option to stop it. If not @Misterxtc has been promoting a tool in the G4 General threads to help stop it
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Could we use the Linux kernel bug CVE-2015-1805 to root our LG G4's running MM?

I don't know how this will be able to help our situation with locked bootloaders, but I am sure the intelligent among us could somehow use this.

I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)

xrad said:
I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-updates-lg-g3-and-g4-march-security-patch? now I wish H815 would get it. Amazing to see a carrier phone appear to get this first.

xrad said:
I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.

yash_bhardwaj said:
Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.
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I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother

spartan268 said:
I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother
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I was foolish enough to update to MM, I've since stopped using the device completely except for answering calls, and I am really sad about that. With the leather back, curved screen, replaceable battery, and back buttons this is one of my top phones. Yes, I know I can downgrade, but I don't want to be bothered by that. I like the new MM features enough to not downgrade, yet I hate not having root, the ad-blocking, the tweaking of my phone to my liking. I've already decided on not buying any phones except nexus. But sadly I am stuck with this phone till the next nexus comes out.

Hello,
I was wondering if someone with the right skills could do it.
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-1805
In the bug's description it's said that Linux kernels before 3.16 are affected by this, I'm using 20e which runs 3.10.84 so theoretically exploitable.
I work with software development but web/mainframe mainly, anyone with a few hax0r skills willing to work on this?
I would certainly donate for this cause.

Nougat Beta Completed - Official update due in January to S7 and S7 Edge

Samsung apparently has sent out a final notification to all those enrolled in the Nougat Beta that there will be no more updates and that the beta ends officially on December 30th and that they will attempt to push out the official update to everyone in January. Hope this means they were able to quash all major bugs.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-receive-nougat-update-january
And it is officially Android 7.1.1, at least for those in the US.

Hopefully we get it soon, I would love some Nougat. At this point I prefer to not have to root my phone to get updates because it's a hassle without being able to unlock the bootloader. I was rooted for awhile and IMHO stock runs butter unless you spend hours customizing it. I love debloating but I would prefer a fully unlocked/rooted phone to a partial solution.
I don't have high hopes for when we get this updated because of verizon but we eventually will, about 2 years after everyone else

JerseyDubbin said:
Hopefully we get it soon, I would love some Nougat. At this point I prefer to not have to root my phone to get updates because it's a hassle without being able to unlock the bootloader. I was rooted for awhile and IMHO stock runs butter unless you spend hours customizing it. I love debloating but I would prefer a fully unlocked/rooted phone to a partial solution.
I don't have high hopes for when we get this updated because of verizon but we eventually will, about 2 years after everyone else
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I haven't been rooted for over a year. I was on an LG G3 before my S7 and so far, I haven't found a real need to root. Before, I rooted because I used TiBu to backup my apps, but with the G3, they had their own backup utility that worked just like TiBu, but it's only for LG devices.
But with how Google Play uploads settings now, that appears to work just fine for me as well, so at this point, I have no reason to root. Plus, I really love Samsung Pay so I don't want to lose that.

This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.

JediDru said:
This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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Agree completely. The root process works well etc but I had to go through xposed and do a lot of tweaks to get it running well for really no gain over what I had stock.

JediDru said:
This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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I completely agree. The G3 was the first phone I ended up not rooting. I did at first because I was just in that mode of, get a new phone, root, flash a custom ROM. But as I started getting used to a lot of the features, and found that the battery life wasn't bad, coupled with running Greenify in non-root mode, I could make the battery last 1.5 days. So, over the last year of the two years I owned it, I didn't root.
With the S7, no need to root. This is smoothest phone I've had yet. The quality of the phone itself is excellent. So, this phone will not be rooted.

It appears the official Nougat OTA is being pushed out, with beta testers getting it first.
Anyone on here that has gotten the Nougat OTA notification yet? I'm holding off on accepting until I know better on how it performs, etc.
http://www.androidcentral.com/stabl...ing-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-starting-beta-users

iBolski said:
It appears the official Nougat OTA is being pushed out, with beta testers getting it first.
Anyone on here that has gotten the Nougat OTA notification yet? I'm holding off on accepting until I know better on how it performs, etc.
http://www.androidcentral.com/stabl...ing-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-starting-beta-users
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Nothing on my end yet.
Sent from my SM-G930V using XDA-Developers Legacy app

was there ever a second beta OTA sent out to Verizon testers? I didn't get into the beta but side loaded the only 7.0 beta build OTA that was floating around and my build number is NRD90M.G930VVRU4ZPK4. Was there an update to after that? Trying to figure out if the Nougate beta -> final OTA (assuming someone pulls it) will work on my phone or if I'll need to find the intermediary beta OTAs or else wipe clean and start from scratch.

sklarskyj said:
was there ever a second beta OTA sent out to Verizon testers? I didn't get into the beta but side loaded the only 7.0 beta build OTA that was floating around and my build number is NRD90M.G930VVRU4ZPK4. Was there an update to after that? Trying to figure out if the Nougate beta -> final OTA (assuming someone pulls it) will work on my phone or if I'll need to find the intermediary beta OTAs or else wipe clean and start from scratch.
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I believe there were only two betas for VZW phones and then they cancelled the beta testing for VZW-based phones. Not sure why. Kind of sucks. Probably Big Red had something to do with it.

j0hnh0lmes said:
Nothing on my end yet.
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Same here, tried rebooting and checking again a few times and still nothing.
Oh well

I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.

SoerenHelmer said:
I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
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Of course they don't. They have to add crapware, disable a bunch of stuff and add backdoors.
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SoerenHelmer said:
I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
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That's their usual response.

I've read US-Based carriers have no ETA yet. Grr.

iBolski said:
I've read US-Based carriers have no ETA yet. Grr.
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I swear searching around the interwebs for information on release dates has at least as much mis-information as looking for information on the election candidates during the election. So much trash.
But I haven't found anyone stating they heard definite dates. I'm thinking it will be late January at this point maybe early Feb before it hits our phones.

i have given up speculating anything that involves verizon. nothing would surprise me.

Take it where its coming from but it looks like some US non-beta testers are starting to see the update. "Unlocked" phones only but still....
http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/19/14321980/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-android-nougat-update

I have an official unlocked US model, but nothing yet. I expect to see the update by the weekend. Crossing fingers.

lickwid said:
I have an official unlocked US model, but nothing yet. I expect to see the update by the weekend. Crossing fingers.
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I believe unlocked models should be getting it before us on Verizon. But, there was a story out that stated OTAs for some reason have stopped being pushed out and Samsung has acknowledged this and is looking into why it happened.
http://www.droidviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-android-nougat-problems-firmware-delivery-stops/
Whether the "bug" is in the firmware itself or with the update process that sends out the notifications is not mentioned.

Warning: New Pie update cannot be rolled back - False alarm!

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this is a heads-up that the newly released Pie update for Korea cannot be rolled back. I would be surprised if it doesn't apply to other variants as well.
I saw it in this post by @trouble. in the H930 Pie thread: The update notes include the following:
If you run the update, the security policy will be strengthened and you will not be able to downgrade to the previous version of the software.
So they went ARB1 after all. No more rolling back after this update. I bet that's why they pulled the original Pie update: It always seemed too good to be true that they would leave that barn door open, both because this is the second major OS update and because it's what makes all V30s rootable.
In short: If you care about root, do NOT update with LG Bridge or OTA or the latest KDZ when it comes out. Only update with TWRP flashable zips (which I assume will be harder to make now).
If it was complaints from US carriers that caused the original Pie to be pulled, I bet this was it, not lags or other bugs: No way they would accept another ARB0 update of this phone. In their mind, it's time to kill it and sell some new phones.
Edit: This also has a few other consequences: Once the Pie update is out for your model, you can no longer send it in to LG for repair, as you will get it back with Pie. The same if you replace it through your carrier. And if you buy a V30 on eBay, you want to make sure it doesn't have Pie on it, if you want to be able to root.
So NOW would be the time to buy that V30 for anybody who's been thinking about it!

It seems we may be in luck after all: According to @tech_infinity's post here release notes for the previous update said the same thing, even though the update was actually ARB0.
So fingers crossed. I apologize for crying wolf if it turns out there is none. We'll see when the update actually comes out. I would still say be careful until it's been confirmed. I will be myself.

TheDannemand said:
It seems we may be in luck after all: According to @tech_infinity's post here release notes for the previous update said the same thing, even though the update was actually ARB0.
So fingers crossed. I apologize for crying wolf if it turns out there is none. We'll see when the update actually comes out. I would still say be careful until it's been confirmed. I will be myself.
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Yeah let's wait and see. If it turns out to be true, then it's a good warning. If it turns out not to be true, you can always edit the thread title.
New owners need to be careful anyway and not just update to most recent firmware, before finding out how to root their phone.
I've seen that so many times over the years -- people get a new phone, IMMEDIATELY update to most recent firmware, THEN come XDA ask how to root their phone. With ARB now incremented, they can't do it. Whereas if they had stayed on the firmware their phone came with, it would have been easy. THEN, update.

ChazzMatt said:
Yeah let's wait and see. If it turns out to be true, then it's a good warning. If it turns out not to be true, you can always edit the thread title.
New owners need to be careful anyway and not just update to most recent firmware, before finding out how to root their phone.
I've seen that so many times over the years -- people get a new phone, update to most recent firmware, THEN come XDA ask how to root their phone. With ARB incremented, you can't do it. Whereasif they had stayed on the firmware they had when they got their phone, it would have been easy.
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Thank you. I agree. Most people don't don't pay attention to ARB and don't realize it's a hard wall once you cross it (fuses blown): Not something we can just work around with a little software tweak.

Looks like we dodged a bullet:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...-lg-v30-european-market-t3951898/post80127539
Again, I apologize for the premature warning. I am so very glad that I was wrong
Mods: If you see this, feel free to delete the thread. Otherwise I'll just update the title. I'm OK either way.

TheDannemand said:
Looks like we dodged a bullet:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...-lg-v30-european-market-t3951898/post80127539
Again, I apologize for the premature warning. I am so very glad that I was wrong
Mods: If you see this, feel free to delete the thread. Otherwise I'll just update the title. I'm OK either way.
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Aah nice. No need for apologies. Better safe than sorry

ANDROID 10 ROM FOR V35 - Korean Version Working Fine

Hello There.
I get the KDZ of Korean version for V35.
I installed in my AWM version.
And works very very smooth.

SkivelBruno said:
Hello There.
I get the KDZ of Korean version for V35.
I installed in my AWM version.
And works very very smooth.
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wow! i'm using AT&T AWM, but don't methol up rom, are you share this methol up? thanks very much!

Please do not do this! The KDZ for all other variants will be released soon. Just be patient. This is exact repeat of pattern for Pie last year and everyone who flashed to Korean then regretted it and had to flash back when the NAO KDZ was released.

SkivelBruno said:
Hello There.
I get the KDZ of Korean version for V35.
I installed in my AWM version.
And works very very smooth.
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Yeah .. good to know that .. but NAO will be released soon, I guess. I will waiting for Nao

tttan said:
wow! i'm using AT&T AWM, but don't methol up rom, are you share this methol up? thanks very much!
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Someone on Reddit mentioned we can't go back to ULM after flashing a Korean firmware. So be careful, to anyone thinking about it

I follow this tutorial.

SkivelBruno said:
I follow this tutorial.
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Gya986EX8
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I don't want to hear any complaints if anyone follows that.
Just be patient.
Tons of people tried flashing the Korean variant for Pie, and then they regretted it when their NAO and other variants got the update -- as we all knew they would. They had to cross flash yet AGAIN, losing everything, losing all data again.
One guy complained LG "forced" him to double cross flash -- first to Korean and then to more desirable NAO when it was released -- when no one forced him to do anything. He was just impatient.

Vuzeultra said:
Someone on Reddit mentioned we can't go back to ULM after flashing a Korean firmware. So be careful, to anyone thinking about it
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The original post from the account that is now deleted from reddit stated this same thing as the OP. Or similar. In replies someone stated this and quote "DON'T FLASH on USA ULM or AWM models! Doing so has bricked WiFi and mobile data for some users in the past. This is due to the slightly different partition sizes and locations on the KDZ's GPT table. You will also lose most LTE functionality, as the Korean model and firmware don't support many US LTE Bands: 12, 13 (Verizon), 66, and 71."
Like mentioned that original Reddit post was deleted...I wonder how many folks took the plunge, cuz there is no telling what could happen. Maybe some users have no issues whatsoever, then maybe others break their wifi stack or mess up their nvi stuff.

This is working fine. Mobile Data, WiFi, Bluetooth etc.

I took the plunge an installed the Korean one on my ATT model. I recommend waiting or rethinking entirely. Because it's a Korean model, apparently by law you can't disable the shutter sound when taking a picture, and it's LOUD. even on do not disturb or silent. WiFi and data seems low and low signal. Also, WiFi calling/ textRCS is gone!
On top of all that, Android 10 for this phone is well.. very beta. Glitches everywhere, janky animations, and who knows what else I'll encounter. The gestures? I've been waiting a long time for this, the main reason I wanted 10. Well, they're trash. It might just be LG's implementation, using them is like flighting against a storm. Everything is an extra step or three. They're just not meant to be there. I always scoffed when people said they turned them off. Can you use them with a third party launcher? Yes, but you won't. It'll go from beta to pre alpha. Anything good about 10? Not really, maybe just some native dark theme but it doesn't even look good, too dark, hard to see any elements. And when you switch between light or dark theme, everything switches. Not all apps look good dark, can't always have some dark and some light at once. Idk I'm not feeling it. Maybe Android 11 or One UI does it better.
Update: calling doesn't work. Whoops
Update 2: after deleting apns/ resetting them, calling works now

Yeah, stuff like this below is what I'm talking about. By the time the NAO V35 Android 10 is released it will be more compatible with U.S. carriers and possibly be more polished.
But some of this is just LG and their approach to the 2nd OS update they're forced to give you. They passive aggressively want you to move on to another phone. For the V30, the cursed 2nd OS update was Pie. They didn't even finish doling it out to all variants (Sprint LS998 and AME H939DS were left out) and US998 Pie in particular was wonky. EU H930 took three botched tries to get a decent version.
On my US998 V30+, I stayed on rock stable (rooted) last Oreo.
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I took the plunge an installed the Korean one on my ATT model. I recommend waiting or rethinking entirely. Because it's a Korean model, apparently by law you can't disable the shutter sound when taking a picture, and it's LOUD. even on do not disturb or silent. WiFi and data seems low and low signal. Also, WiFi calling/ textRCS is gone!
On top of all that, Android 10 for this phone is well.. very beta. Glitches everywhere, janky animations, and who knows what else I'll encounter. The gestures? I've been waiting a long time for this, the main reason I wanted 10. Well, they're trash. It might just be LG's implementation, using them is like flighting against a storm. Everything is an extra step or three. They're just not meant to be there. I always scoffed when people said they turned them off. Can you use them with a third party launcher? Yes, but you won't. It'll go from beta to pre alpha. Anything good about 10? Not really, maybe just some native dark theme but it doesn't even look good, too dark, hard to see any elements. And when you switch between light or dark theme, everything switches. Not all apps look good dark, can't always have some dark and some light at once. Idk I'm not feeling it. Maybe Android 11 or One UI does it better.
Update: calling doesn't work. Whoops
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Update 2: after deleting apns/ resetting them, calling works now. That's a relief..
As for all the other stuff I complained about; Yeah it's definitely a bit of planned obsolescence. It's Android 10 sure, bit too janky where it feels like a downgrade. So I don't recommend the upgrade, at least not via the Korean firmware. It's possible the us/ unlocked version could smooth things out

seems like an alpha version of android 10. its a little buggy.
going back to pie and wait the us unlocked or gfi version.

I followed that tutorial. I'm on AT&T in Southern California and haven't run in to any issues. The only thing I don't like is not being able to disable the shutter sound.

Vuzeultra said:
Update 2: after deleting apns/ resetting them, calling works now. That's a relief..
As for all the other stuff I complained about; Yeah it's definitely a bit of planned obsolescence. It's Android 10 sure, bit too janky where it feels like a downgrade. So I don't recommend the upgrade, at least not via the Korean firmware. It's possible the us/ unlocked version could smooth things out
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Did all of that also fix rcs and wifi calling?

nate0 said:
Did all of that also fix rcs and wifi calling?
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I just realized my wifi calling is not working. RCS is working fine.

Korean firmware doesn't have WiFi calling.
Also, just noticed cannot set video capture above 1080p on any camera application
Call recording is pretty handy though

Vuzeultra said:
I took the plunge an installed the Korean one on my ATT model. I recommend waiting or rethinking entirely. Because it's a Korean model, apparently by law you can't disable the shutter sound when taking a picture, and it's LOUD. even on do not disturb or silent. WiFi and data seems low and low signal. Also, WiFi calling/ textRCS is gone!
On top of all that, Android 10 for this phone is well.. very beta. Glitches everywhere, janky animations, and who knows what else I'll encounter. The gestures? I've been waiting a long time for this, the main reason I wanted 10. Well, they're trash. It might just be LG's implementation, using them is like flighting against a storm. Everything is an extra step or three. They're just not meant to be there. I always scoffed when people said they turned them off. Can you use them with a third party launcher? Yes, but you won't. It'll go from beta to pre alpha. Anything good about 10? Not really, maybe just some native dark theme but it doesn't even look good, too dark, hard to see any elements. And when you switch between light or dark theme, everything switches. Not all apps look good dark, can't always have some dark and some light at once. Idk I'm not feeling it. Maybe Android 11 or One UI does it better.
Update: calling doesn't work. Whoops
Update 2: after deleting apns/ resetting them, calling works now
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Sounds like each new release for this phone becomes more unreliable. To do half-assed upgrades it's better to not do them at all, LG.

No news on occidental KDZ, right?

. I guess COVID-19 has wiped out all hopes of us seeing a Google-Fi version of Android 10?